benji93:
Why the bolded, when i clearly mentioned that my argument doesn't go beyond that. Besides, I never said people in their 20's. I said it's until 20. 20 is an the upper limit. I do apologize for making such an assumption with respect to your knowledge. That was an assumption based on past history. I clearly mentioned that. I used the first article for the 20 upper limit. You could certainly find another article that suggests an age lesser than 20, which I wouldn't argue with cos it's clear for these developmental periods are not quite specific. You will always have a plus or minus, but i would appreciate it if you post one, so we know your argument at least has support. Now there's certainly the issue of reliability of a source, which can be ignored as we don't have lots of journal publications on the subject. The second article does suggest that the catching up occurs by late high school, but does not indicate the age while another suggests it narrows. Perhaps classifying the argument as correct is a little too confident but the 20 years cap is quite reasonable, considering the age problem. For the last bolded, i cannot argue with that. It is certainly disingenuous. The guy made a lot of points, the ugly part was clearly not the only one. We could go back and forth on what his end was, but that's beside the point, cos he did make multiple points, even though they probably shouldn't belong in the same test. However, when I first mentioned you I clearly indicated which of those points I was supporting, so again bringing up the "ugly" thing is definitely not on point, but again it could have been cos you misinterpreted my initial argument.



https://www.baronnews.com/2020/02/28/why-do-girls-mature-faster-than-boys/#:~:text=Girls%20physically%20mature%20faster%20than,to%20their%20differences%20in%20biology.

https://shine365.marshfieldclinic.org/kids-health/boys-girls-maturity-gap/

BLOODYSPERM:



I'm a pragmatist and I deal with truths, facts and harsh uncomfortable realities of life especially our ancestral pasts
Slavery has been an historical fact for most cultures throughout civilization whether black or white cultures
Among our black ancestors we had slaves let's not be hypocritical because white men took our people as slaves, before they took them we were using our people as slaves and they also were using their people as slaves too, but our ancestors were not wise enough to develop their own society like white men ancestors, these is facts, what were they using their time for, while at the same time white men were sailing the world, developing their Societies and reaching enlightenment era while black ancestors were tribalistic primitively worshipping idols , practising rituals and engaging in conflicts among each other , why weren't they developing their Societies like white men, why didn't our ancestors leave their dogma and discover the new world, why didn't we colonize other cultures

FACTS
Our ancestors were not as intelligent as white ancestors because they chose to dogmatically follow tribalistic rituals and traditions, white men had left tribalism and moved towards scientific enlightenment and progress

TRUTHS
See the state of Africa with it's leadership and even the people , has anything changed since post-colonization , nothing ,facts is that collectively speaking even after receiving enlightenment and information age in these 21st , the tribalistic primitive instincts of our ancestors still exists unlike in Western Societies that have risen above tribalism, we still choose to be incompetent and we don't seek out intelligence or even apply intelligence like the white men , still blinded by religion and Cultural dogmas, even black women even have an inferiority complex of their skin seeing themselves as less attractive hence they bleach to become fairer

FACTS
Black America communities have the worst mordern statistics with regards to social issues like family, marriage,
fatherlessness , the statistics even during segregation were better than now,and most blacks vote for Democrat whose politicians and media platforms manipulate your emotions with trigger words like systematic racism and white supremacy, police brutality when the statistics shows that all these are cultural marxist tools to polarize you from whites and make you all loose focus on more pressing issues like black to black violence , fatherlessness which are more systematic than any racism post civil rights


If black Americans like you who live in Progressive western societies , who ought to be more intelligent than us based in Africa can be fooled by leftist politicans and manipulated with racism to make you loose focus from your main community problems , then what hope do native black Africans have when our colored folks in the west are pawns of liberal elites

As I said , I'm a pragmatist and I work with data , facts and statistics, I don't like to judge people based on their group with identity politics because I believe societal problems must be solved on an individual level with emphasizes on family building and entrepreneurial creativity of individual applying practical knowledge ( wisdom) to solve complex societal problems, I don't lament about things I couldn't control like the ineptitude and incompetence of my black ancestors but rather I make use of my intelligence to Better develop myself and Society as an individual unlike most members of my society who are dogmatic with religion and culture and can't apply critical thinking and deductive reasoning to solve our current economical and political problems

BLOODYSPERM:




Give me statistics of mordern women who are bricklayers, engineers, miner's, firefighters,mechanics,plumbers, truck drivers ,welders,Carpenters,and other high physical risk jobs essential for the maintenance of civilization ,rather you women troop to office jobs with safety , how dear you say you built or are even currently maintaining civilization, Nigerian men ancestors were not intelligent like white men ancestors to build early civilization but we are damn well maintaining the civilization white men built

Women throughout history and every civilization are just essential for three basic things sex ( that's why they clamor for reproductive rights unlike men because they understand the agency of their pussy, but don't care about our sperm and joysticks), reproduction and child rearing,

Women are fundamentally not built for leadership and are inherently default followers that's why most ,instinctively opt for secretary and receptionist positions due to your agreeable nature,more than the average man who mostly tends to be the head or CEO of a corporation as we are less agreeable, average performance on both genders but mostly men who make it to the top of a career ladder as we are not biologically limited with pregnancy or motherly duties that can alter a woman's career path, biology limits women in the workplace


STEM data from Egalitarianistic-Equalism Societies like scandanavian countries such as Denmark, Iceland and Norway shows that the more a nation tries to eliminate so-called Patriachal cultural barriers for women via affirmative Actions, diversity and inclusivity policies, quota policies, have widened the gender differences in these Societies and they have the poorest STEM data for women than traditionally conservative Societies , these is know as the gender equality paradox, don't ever blame culture again for the lack of interest of women in STEM fields look at bloody Finland


Men and Women are fundamentally not equal blame Nature, God, or evolutionary biology, it doesn't change facts, women are drawn to people and have great social skills than men, men are drawn to things and make use of abstractions like science and logic, these fundamental hardwired psychological facts that social constructivism and Egalitarianism humanist ideologies can't Change by systematic re-engineering of cultures via anti-patriachal legislatures


Stop blaming us and our joysticks
Deal with your innate naturally ordered inferior position and work with it as Biology fundamentally made women second class citizens essentially with nothing to offer asides sex( which homosexual men can get from each other), reproduction (as men don't have wombs) and child rearing ( you are better nurturers)

We don't need you for survival only reproduction, but you need us to continue to maintain civilization as without us and our Technology you would not survive even when you're all living as a collective

Psoul:


You may be right.
But anyone who kidnaps fellow human being and collect ransom on that person's head,
Rob and use gun to threaten and even kill another fellow deserves every form of violence people can met on him.
No time for mercy or pity.
How can u pity someone that does not believe in the sanctity of life?

benji93:
Point of correction my argument was on maturation and nothing more. The evidence out there clearly shows women live longer than men on average. On another note, the maturation period we are talking about continues until 20 on average, and for the most part, they overlap, only that one starts earlier and slows down while the other speeds up. So if the 20 is a reasonable upper age limit in the early maturity race, then on average by the end of high school, males still would have some catching up to do, cos in general Nigerians leave high school by 17 these days. And by that a girl is matured enough for marriage. I never referred to the 'ugly' part, which i believe was out of place, so it's unnecessary to bring that up. Stay on point. . And you made another point on the issue of pressure. Yes the society pressures women into marriage, and this has been the case for a long time because until recently having kids was a source of joy, and some would consider it a divine command, given that the major religions emphasize on the importance of kids to a marriage, and the fact that the age for menopause has recessed, the pressure is a social necessity, but there have been several medical advancements which allow women to have their own kids even after hitting menopause. Given this, that social pressure is bound to wane. Besides do not make it seem as if the pressure comes from only men. A significant part of it comes from your camp: Your peers, our sisters, and mothers.

Psoul:


The ease at which someone will threaten people, go back, pick up a gun and really set out to kill wit that gun.
Drastic situation requires drastic action.
Don't you think so?

BLOODYSPERM:



Mordern women and the blaming game
Always blaming men, society, culture, religion, Patriachy in any field they feel insecured and inferior including marriage
Ignoring evolutionary scientific realities of the clear and distinct Biological , psychological and physical differences between men and women
Men are abstractive that why they are generally drawn to things such as building civilization that's why we choose STEM(science, Technology Engineering and Mathematics),women are solipsistic and they are generally drawn to people and relationships such as marriage that why they choose arts and humanities

Women menstruous Hypergamous realities makes them desire to settle down for a long term provisioning mate , don't fight or question nature

benji93:
I find it hard to understand how you claim women don't mature earlier than men but claim you studied a program under the category of the biological sciences. Perhaps you only just have a degree, and you have no idea the significance of doing thorough research. In today's world you learn far more out of a classroom than in it. By out of it i mean purposeful research work. The guy was reasonably correct in saying women mature(ripen) earlier. Below is a reference to a study.
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-12/nu-bcm121913.php

OBku4:
Pls cancel all the nonsense you wrote up there.

Just a simple question, between ur dad and mom, who pressures/pressured you to get married?

You feel men have time for all this nonsense relationship matter?

All those things you wrote up there are exactly what mothers/aunties/elder sisters/female peers (that married before you) do.

men don't care less... and I'll add, even Fathers



...thought she was making sense till I decided to read it.

mtchew

bluefilm:


Well, like I said to you earlier, you can continue living in your DELUSION.

But...

It won't make anywhere younger.

It won't make you less uglier.

It won't even wipe away the hardship you may be going through.

You may have all the wonderful careers in the world and all the wonderful certificates in the world but that will not make a man take just one look at you and conclude that this old cargo here is just way too old for me.

It is the hard truth... the hard PAINFUL truth.

bluefilm:


Well, like I said to you earlier, you can continue living in your DELUSION.

But...

It won't make anywhere younger.

It won't make you less uglier.

It won't even wipe away the hardship you may be going through.

You may have all the wonderful careers in the world and all the wonderful certificates in the world but that will not make a man take just one look at you and conclude that this old cargo here is just way too old for me.

It is the hard truth... the hard PAINFUL truth.

bluefilm:


Why will you blame men for the simple and obvious fact that women ripe earlier and faster naturally?

So you don't know it that of all possessions a woman can have, her beauty and youthfulness is basically and primarily the only thing that interests a man?

How can you say that it is men who pressure women into marriage meanwhile even the blind can see that it is women who take so much PRIDE in showing off their relationship status?

Well, what else can I say?

Continue living in your DELUSION and continue looking for more ways to blame men for your woes.

Unfortunately for you, the problem isn't going to go away just like that.

bluefilm:


Absolute rubbish.

Stop talking nonsense.

Must you always blame men for all your nonsense?

Nonsense.

Sentientmind:
Hi all, it isn't news women celebrate relationships and marriage more, tends to flaunt it, and for them it is obviously a very huge milestone for them; they see it as a very big achievement.
The reverse is the case for the male folks as most are mostly indifferent and many will prefer to hide it; my question is, why do female value and put so much emphasis on relationship/marriage?

Is it because they have more to gain? Or looking for people to fleece?

Your response/opinion is welcomed.

needanswer:


Only you FBA...

TheCalculator:
Source: https://www.euronews.com/travel/2021/03/19/this-22-year-old-woman-is-the-youngest-person-to-travel-to-every-country-in-the-world

Omihanifa:
Anita Joseph: How I Flew From Enugu Movie Set To Have Sex With Hubby In Lagos

Anita Joseph, Nollywood actress, has recounted how she left a movie set for a sexual escapade with Fisayo Michael, her husband better known as MC Fish.

The film star brought this revelation to light in an Instagram post on Tuesday.

The Anambra-born actress said she hopped on a plane and flew to Lagos from Enugu to satisfy her sexual urge and then returned to the movie set the next day with a “full tank.”



https://www.instagram.com/p/CNUpR08MfZt/?igshid=cukov6dwofcv

Anita’s post comes a few days after MC Fish had revealed that he washes her underwear as an expression of his love for her.

orohbiro:
Madam I didn't create story I actually met a simp if I had told him to sell is barbing saloon for my sake oga for sell am. who cares if u believe or not I came here to seek for advise how to dump him cause I want my space

needanswer:
Tough questions about relationships, can you answer it. The rules are simple. Whatever options you picked in scenario one, you must pick in scenario two, you can't switch, so are you ready?


Scenario 1

Let's imagine you are married to a woman you love. You get along fine with her and your family. One day in your absence she gets into a verbal exchange with your mother while you are at work.

She calls to inform you before you return so you can have her back cause you are her husband. So as you get home, you wife is outside to welcome you and lead you inside, your mom is waiting for you patiently in the living room, as soon as you walk in she begins to call out your wife in your presence while your wife nudges at you to confront her on her behalf, what will you do?

(A) confront your mom and defend your wife as a lover boy?

(B) side with your mom as a mommy's boy?

(C) become the CONFUSED FELLOW and try to BEG EVERYONE like you were the cause of the fight and be seen as a weak man?

(D) rebuke everyone including your mother and wife and become the NEW VILLAIN as the disrespectful man?

(E) Ignore everyone and be termed disrespectful and insensitive, as the heartless man?

(F) Try to know who is wrong in the situation and BLAME THAT PARTY ALONE, and be seen as A JUDGE and not a CARING SON or LOVING HUSBAND?


Scenario 2.

You have been married to your husband, who has been such a blessing. One day you go to the market and before you can come back your husband calls you on the phone and started complaining bitterly about the heated argument he and your father just had at your back and that it is still on going. You quickly rush home. At the door your husband is waiting for you, in the dining room your dad is waiting for you also. And as soon as you walk in with your husband he begins to tackle him again in your presence, while your husband nudges at you to confront him on his behalf, what will you do?

(A)confront your dad and defend your husband as a lover girl?

(B) side with your dad as a daddy's girl?

(C) become the CONFUSED FELLOW and try to BEG EVERYONE like you were the cause of the fight?

(D) rebuke everyone including your dad and husband and become the NEW VILLAIN?

(E) Ignore everyone and be termed disrespectful and insensitive?

(F) Try to know who is wrong in the situation and BLAME THAT PARTY ALONE, even if it's your husband or father?

Seun
Rocktation

afroniger:
https://thenationonlineng.net/imo-villagers-set-fleeing-prisoner-ablaze/




Mynd44
Lalasticlala

InvestingExpert:
we are in the age where everyone wants to be heard and everyone wants to be noticed and liked

and this has resorted to so many new trends and culture that back in the days didn't exist.

Now a woman wants equal right as a man and will say "what a man can do a woman can do better"

I'm not against this movement or trend or whatever it is called

but if a wife also struggles for equal rights in terms of leadership with her husband

then who is the follower, who gives the instructions, who is the one to submit

two captains can't lead a ship but it seems in this days of social media everyone wants to take the lead.

so who is really the head of the house?

Traditionally the husband is the head. He leads his family along their path: spiritual, moral, financial, etc. And the wife submits to his leadership.

If the husband is the captain in the marriage then the wife is his crew.

a captain protects his crew and must be an example for them to follow. a captain gives the final order aboard the ship but he has assistance with everything and he takes advice from his subordinates. A good captain values his crew and understands that the ship’s operations can not be performed without his crew.

When a captain is proving himself unqualified for his position he lowers the morale of the crew, they won’t perform their tasks well and won’t respect the leadership. When the captain is dangerously incompetent he will be relieved of duty or even face a mutiny.

What many marriages suffer from today is incompetent leadership leaving the crew forced to take over the duties of guiding the ship.

orohbiro:
There is a guy I met last week at a keke who paid my tfair and beg me to have my number he send me money to subscribe that same day at night when he called, he has barbing saloon for males and females, he took me out for shopping 3days ago which cost him almost 50k, bug I don't like him I have a fiancée already and I pity him cause he us just a saloon owner I want to get rid if him cause dey call me miss expensive in school, I don't think he can cope with me cause I will wreck him. pls advise me on how do dump this guy is ugliness is out of this world.

Laughnow419:
CLICK PLAY

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13365465_20210407181158_jpeg3e63f89e9438ae0613dcd2fc9a8e0cda

YourMajesty:
International Atlanta Georgia Olosho, I prefer the village girls Toto more than yours filled with worms and incurable STD's.

By the way, may your mom soul rest in peace.