Are There Any Former Muslims In Here?

Merry Christmas.
People are shopping and you're here hyperventilating?

This thread is about Leilah wanting to hear from former Muslims so don't derail it with your usual al taquiyah

it would seem that cleverly edited you tube video clips are the new way of spreading the gospel . no one can beat the ggreat christain propaganda machine!





thank you for confirming what christainity is really about - consumerism!

Alhamdullilah, Islam , unlike christianity, cannot be hijacked by caucasians/corporations.

could you imagine if the just concluded Sallah was all about shopping discounts, Sallah presents, a kiss under the mistletoe, etc? 

@ Leilah, don't mind these unbeleivers and their oft revised , inconsistent religion( i wonder why after the flood, after lot, and how many times the christian god destroyed sinners, he suddenly decided to split himself into three, and sacrifice a third of himself because he suddenly realised that he loved the world that he had previously drowned ) .remember, nothing on nairaland or in the world today compares to what Prophet Muhammed (SAW) and the first beleivers faced at the hands of the quraysh. Unbeleivers have always ounumbered believers.

 
excerpts from surah 9 At-Taubah - (one wonders how all these analysts of the quran keep missing these verses )

55.    So let not their wealth or their children amaze you (O Muhammad SAW); in reality Allâh's Plan is to punish them with these things in the life of the this world, and that their souls shall depart (die) while they are disbelievers.



some interesting other verses:

And the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allâh, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allâh. That is a saying from their mouths. They imitate the saying of the disbelievers of old. Allâh's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth![]


31.    They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allâh (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allâh), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) to worship none but One Ilâh (God - Allâh) Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He)[]. Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)."


32.    They (the disbelievers, the Jews and the Christians) want to extinguish Allâh's Light (with which Muhammad SAW has been sent - Islâmic Monotheism) with their mouths, but Allâh will not allow except that His Light should be perfected even though the Kâfirûn (disbelievers) hate (it) - so true!

33.    It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islâm), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh) hate (it).


34.    O you who believe! Verily, there are many of the (Jewish) rabbis and the (Christian) monks who devour the wealth of mankind in falsehood, and hinder (them) from the Way of Allâh (i.e. Allâh's Religion of Islâmic Monotheism). And those who hoard up gold and silver [Al-Kanz: the money, the Zakât of which has not been paid], and spend it not in the Way of Allâh, -announce unto them a painful torment.


the above should serve to explain the megalomania of the people these christians(sheep) have as their sheperds.

My dear friendly sister: Don't you see wisdom in what the brother oyb, wrote ? Accept Islam and be benefitted. However, if you do not, then know that you are a witness to our being muslims. Bowing our wills to God Almighty Allah, in submission.

You are right! According to the Bible that Jesus aint know nothing about. All you can muster together are Proverts, etc! The wisdom of Saul/Paul. Wow. lol.

If your husband knows any prophet who is powerful and strong enough to fight the anti-christ for humanity, ask him to suggest the prophet to Jesus then @Leila. I do not understand how anyone can actually read the bible and then come back to ask that sought of question as the book itself from beginning to the end explains why Christ is the one to fight the anti christ and why all others who will try perish.   

Come on ,  The Bible is a book one can get in most any language these days and many historians who are not even christians can tell you to answer to that question simply from there reading the book. Tell your husband to read the book of Revelation from beginning to end and he will not only understand why only Jesus can do it but how.

@KOkojunkie; : THere is no Prophet of God Almighty that will perish, except the Antichrist destruction, has been assigned to Jesus son of Mary! John son of Zachariah or Zachariah himself, was not recorded to have committed any sins. They were also contempuraries of Jesus.

God is the One who is destroying Antichrist through the hands of Jesus. Not Jesus, himself, my friend! And my proof is very simple; Jesus could not save himself, if his life depended on it, according to the Bible! Afterall, according to the Bible, again, he perished on the cross, with an accursed soul! It is the Qur'an that came to his defense. The Prophet/Messenger who went to heaven and came back in a part of one single night must have been honored to be able to do that job of defeating the Antichrist. So is Moses and many many other Prophets/Messengers. please get off the heavens-gate space ship that is bound to perish.

The uniqueness of Jesus for this job is known only by God Almighty alone. Jesus himself does not have any inside track to why he is chosen. However we see the connection to it through the name Ant"Christ."

Leilah



Well, surely  this isn't rocket science; really its all intuitive . Think about the names 'Christ' versus 'anti-Christ'. If a personality is identified as an 'anti-Christ', then it obviously means that he is the quintessential opponent or arch-nemesis of the Christ personality and all he represents. Now, if Christ is indeed God clothed in human flesh and not just a prophet as Christians believe, then clearly he is the only one with the power to nullify his purported opposite. No other mere prophet can step into this role. And in any case, all the other prophets are dead, whereas Christ is alive in heaven.

Now let's consider Islam's position - or at least that of its representative here, olabowale. He accepts that Christ will return to destroy the anti-Christ, but will also become a follower of Muhammad and a Muslim. This concords with the general Muslim belief that Muhammad was 'greater' than Jesus as God's ultimate representative on earth. If so, the existence of a future anti-Christ personality presents ostensible problems IMHO. Olabowale will do well to honestly answer the following questions: how does one explain the anti-climatic future emergence of a purported arch-foe to Christ rather than the supposed greater personality and office of Muhammad? How come there is an anti-Christ, but no anti-Muhammad? What does Christ - though a 'mere' prophet - still represent that was not assumed and superceded by Muhammad's appearance, thereby warranting the rise of an arch-opponent to Christ and not to Muhammad?

so Paul wrote the psalms and proverbs?
Thank God you are a Muslim.
No other people can be this daft

your allahu arched bar shouting brethren just cut down benazir bhutto.

Dude,  I am sure all that makes sense in some wack ways to you ,  but I suggest that next time you ACTUALLY pick up a bible, you read it in PLAIN ENGLISH or better still PLAIN Yoruba as if you were reading a book and maybe, just maybe, you might come to learn how your post here makes absolutely no sense when put beside what is actually written down in the Bible. I mentioned that ordinary historians who themselves are not even christians read the book and know the very reason why Jesus is the only one who can kill the ANTI-CHRIST. You come back with babbles that make so sense outside of your mind?? You seriously need to go learn how to read and please actually read a BIBLE. Sure they come in many languages but I doubt you have actually read one from that babbling up there. Again I urge you to READ IT,  IT IS IN PLAIN ENGLISH and EXPLAINS WHY NO OTHER PERSON,  NO PROPHET, not even the KIDS could Get Rid of the Antichrist. IT IS IN PLAIN CLEAR LANGUAGE FOR ALL PERSONS TO READ!!!!! Read it as if you were reading a very good storybook and maybe then you would get over your fear and need to INSERT and TWIST It to fit what you want it to be instead.!!!! AAARRRGGHHH!!!

Nobody is claiming that any prophet is above the other.

All are equal and each has his own destined work on earth.

and yet mohammed is the "last and greatest" prophet?

Gbere devidi. Be ni tie nri. Didn't anyone told you that this dude missed you? Man, I was just imaging you yelling in your head while typing. I tried to do that with Pilgrim.1. It ain't working bro.  I could just raise my eye at Nwando and she gets it. The knows the nature of man. But Dave, was rough going for a moment there with your mixing it up! Everything alright? Good.

@babs787,

Please, no vex O. . .    I know you did not address me; but let me make a few comments in your rejoinder to Kobojunkie.


Did Islam suggest any other person apart from Him?


Hehehe. . . so with all your arrogance of Bible study and being a former 'Christian', you have forgotten the Biblical exegesis on that one and now begging to be taught yet again!  I hear.


Stop pretending to pinch your navel. Go to the Bibel and produce your worst nightmare on the subject. Christians do not wait for Muslims to bring anything out of the untuchable Qur'an and fabricated Hadiths. We go directly nto your holy writs and bring out the issues you have been hiding in pretended scholarship as if nobody would check them out!


Babs787, please no vex again O. . . abeg, I dey wait for your LIE that the Qur'an came to CORRECT the Bible!  WHERE did 'Allah' or Muhammad give you that assignment to come in a public Forum and LIE like that, when as a matter of FACT, the Qur'an confesses that it came to CONFIRM the Biblical scriptures?

@mdsocks,


Please rewind and ask olabowale and other footsoldiers of 'Allah' what they have been noising abroad by referring to Muhammad as the noblest of ALL the prophets! Meanwhile, even Muhammad himself confessed that he was NOT better than Jonas! You don forget?


Really? Is that why Muslims will feel insulted when a doll is named after a boy by the name of 'Mohammad', but no Muslim will feel offended when the Name of Jesus is castigated - even by Muslims themselves?

@mdsocks,


Ask the Muslim leaders who often see politics as the spine of their Islamic drivel in the Middle East.


Is that what she said at all?


What's your phobia about what she mentioned here?


Good to know. At least, nwando referenced her direct quote. Here again:


Cough. .  cough! We have also helped out as to the FACT that Muslims will stop at notjing when it comes to LYING for 'Allah'!


We hear. The real 'peaceful' Islam is juicing out your true humanity!

@pilgrim





Omo abi ipabe, your brother said:



I asked him to supply me the reason




Mumu, I asked you so give it to me from your bible.




Do you mean bible? Stop deceiving yourself, are you afraid to touch your bible again? Havent you been lifting verses from there since; let me have the story from your bible.




But you have been shown that your bible is corrupt and can not be relied upon as the real message God gave to Moses and Jesus.
It has done that and that is just the reason we have been able to give you detailed, unadulterated stories from the Quran as againt the bible that is having contradictions, missing verses etc