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Etin (f)
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #32 on: December 19, 2007, 11:02 PM »

Give both candidates a project related to their industry and get them to write a project plan. This plan should be a current problem and they should come up with a workable solution. This is one way companies in UK select between high profile canadidates. Look at their people skill, and the personality that would fit in with that of the company.
nigeriaone
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #33 on: December 20, 2007, 06:47 AM »

My brother go for the experience  if you live abroad,  It is only in Nigeria that company look for degree,  abroad it is what your experience can offer the company. If you have all the degree no experience,  Yellow and black (TAXI) is your best choice.  Many Nigerian abroad have alot of degree but no experience. Oyibo only want people with experience,  that why most Nigerian return home after they finish school over here. because they can't find find a job here , since they lack experience.

Look while I work in Nigeria, in the same company.I got paid more money than people who had higher degree in that Nigeria company because I was more valiable than them to the company.
Look let me give you an example,  let say I join transcorp today,  I have a background in telecommunication,  I would not accept any pay less than Tom Isegohi  the MD who is the boss, because i believe I am more value to the company than him. Look I have a better understanding than the man in Telecommunication. So if the comapny want tomove forward what they would look over here is who is of more value and more use to them. They have to weight, my experience compare with a PHD in telecommunication with no experience ,  PHD is useless  without experience in the field. Transcorp failure is because the company boss Tom Isegohi  lack experience in Telecommunication. And transcorp would continue to fail until they remove him. You can not put "WELL CONNECTED OR MAN KNOW MAN" over experience.

Look Nigeria have had problem because we ask people with PHD to solve our problem. They may be book smart.  People with PHD have no work experience. They just have theory of how thing can work,  there is a different between book knowledge and pratical experience. So when you  appoint a PHD holder to become a minister or head NEPA or transcorp he can not perform well and fail because he lack experience since he was a TEACHER all is life. Look PHD holder are TEACHER. you can not compare someone that teach 18 years olds with someone that have experience in a field.

Nigeria have made a mistake by alway putting Prof in heading ministries. They all fail because they have alway been TEACHER all their lifes. and Prof lack work experience and that is what you need to move a company or ministries  forward. The best prof of electrical engineering with no work place experince can not fix NEPA problem,  It about skill and experience.  Your master degree would only be good if you want to teach. most time it is not needed. Do you want to become a TEACHER. 90% of prof in Nigeria lack work place experience , so how can they solve work place problem. With calculus?Huh or with  almight formular??? If I am Yar Adua I would appoint people with practical work place experience as minister. Not TEACHERS.

Nigeria companies need to follow the rest of the world. It is what a man can do for your comapny and not degree he or she has.??  PHD with no experience is useless to a company.

http://ThisGlobe.com
sturvs
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #34 on: December 21, 2007, 05:39 PM »

the thing is most nigerians and many people on this forum thread don't understand that in the IT industry abroad, contract jobs are very normal and most contract jobs are less than a year anyway. im not sure if theres a contract job culture in nigeria yet as most jobs are full time. so don't hold 5 jobs in 4 years against candidate B. in fact, as for me, i might never get a computer related MSc because in 3 years I've learnt more than any degree can teach me through hands-on experience. its just that most times masters degrees from the UK or anywhere abroad look shiny and solid to employers. many people pass through these programs without the needed knowledge. im going to do an MBA soon, but not an MSc. I think im past an MSc already, with 3 years working experience in the US.

this is how many IT contractors in the US/UK work: they could do 2-3 contract jobs a year which could be 3-6 months each and wont work the rest of the year, because contract jobs will pay you higher than a full time salary job and they might have made more than enough money for the entire year.

ABROAD, THE CANDIDATE WITH WORK EXPERIENCE WILL BE MORE MARKETABLE BUT IN NIGERIA, THAT DEGREE MIGHT LOOK SHINY TO EMPLOYERS.
okwudili (m)
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #35 on: December 22, 2007, 12:48 PM »

well i think its still a matter of who get leg pass for niaja, but lets PRETEND we are in a society where people actually get what they really deserve , then i would have to go with the masters degree and less working experience because believe it or not a masters degree give u a defined perspective regarding your job where u want to go and basically acilitiates a faster career growth,

But well this is Naija,,,all na leg, ok most of the time
dremoney (m)
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #36 on: December 26, 2007, 02:42 AM »

laughs,

witout bn sentimental, to get Master's from UK no b yam oo!! u wil work your ass men, loads of research work ma people.

on the other hand, experience means exposure to field work which is very important than certificate.

wahala nw b say, learning in UK is lk bn practical on d job.they teach like you r on d job, litu wil u need to learn from your company after studies from the UK.

A UK graduate is more exposed and updated. A Uk graduate understands d idea of being creative logically. A Uk graduate can possibly take charge of any transaction (no matter d volume) due to d level of exposure.

Physchologically/Physically, a UK graduate should be more sound(no disrespect intended o).

WHO DO WE NOW CHOOSE?
dremoney (m)
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #37 on: December 26, 2007, 02:54 AM »

Quote from: nigeriaone on December 20, 2007, 06:47 AM
My brother go for the experience  if you live abroad,  It is only in Nigeria that company look for degree,  abroad it is what your experience can offer the company. If you have all the degree no experience,  Yellow and black (TAXI) is your best choice.  Many Nigerian abroad have alot of degree but no experience. Oyibo only want people with experience,  that why most Nigerian return home after they finish school over here. because they can't find find a job here , since they lack experience.

Look while I work in Nigeria, in the same company.I got paid more money than people who had higher degree in that Nigeria company because I was more valiable than them to the company.
Look let me give you an example,  let say I join transcorp today,  I have a background in telecommunication,  I would not accept any pay less than Tom Isegohi  the MD who is the boss, because i believe I am more value to the company than him. Look I have a better understanding than the man in Telecommunication. So if the comapny want tomove forward what they would look over here is who is of more value and more use to them. They have to weight, my experience compare with a PHD in telecommunication with no experience ,  PHD is useless  without experience in the field. Transcorp failure is because the company boss Tom Isegohi  lack experience in Telecommunication. And transcorp would continue to fail until they remove him. You can not put "WELL CONNECTED OR MAN KNOW MAN" over experience.

Look Nigeria have had problem because we ask people with PHD to solve our problem. They may be book smart.  People with PHD have no work experience. They just have theory of how thing can work,  there is a different between book knowledge and pratical experience. So when you  appoint a PHD holder to become a minister or head NEPA or transcorp he can not perform well and fail because he lack experience since he was a TEACHER all is life. Look PHD holder are TEACHER. you can not compare someone that teach 18 years olds with someone that have experience in a field.

Nigeria have made a mistake by alway putting Prof in heading ministries. They all fail because they have alway been TEACHER all their lifes. and Prof lack work experience and that is what you need to move a company or ministries  forward. The best prof of electrical engineering with no work place experince can not fix NEPA problem,  It about skill and experience.  Your master degree would only be good if you want to teach. most time it is not needed. Do you want to become a TEACHER. 90% of prof in Nigeria lack work place experience , so how can they solve work place problem. With calculus?Huh or with  almight formular??? If I am Yar Adua I would appoint people with practical work place experience as minister. Not TEACHERS.

Nigeria companies need to follow the rest of the world. It is what a man can do for your comapny and not degree he or she has.??  PHD with no experience is useless to a company.

http://ThisGlobe.com

u jst dey yarn dust egbon yii, what u mean by earning more than the CEO? You DEY CRAZE?

Moreover,experience wuld b more attractive here in Uk because d country is fully developed.Everything works perfectly, They have the professionals to handle things, Nigerian  professionals here are being trained by them so wetin u dey talk,

Nigeria will respect sm1 with certificates from here because they kw u are well grounded, Nigeria's still a developing Nation so people from abroad will continually be appreciated because of d exposure they r bringing into d country.(no b small tin nw). A UK graduate see things from different angles. The level of reasoning go dey very high, Ability to turn a local firm to a Global company dey because of the exposure,

Wats d value of your experience if u dnt av d potential of exposing your organisation to the larger world?

abeg kip quiet dere!!!!!
Don1DeMaco
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #38 on: December 26, 2007, 07:38 AM »

make i try talk something, who get sense pass between the two candidates, not degree or experience
them no go do interview, if candidate 1 impresses more than the other guy he gets the job and vice versa
but if them both get the same sense and both impress (i.e. they both show almost and equal level of knowledge about the field) and im to make a choice then u look at the nature of the job,  are u a service provider like servicing clients if the job is more practical oriented then cand 2 because that is all he has been doing not so?Huh but if its about attending meetings trying to impress clients and stuffs like that and a little bit of practical then cand 1 takes the lead, if its a top level position in the firm cand 1 will still get the job, the key work is they both have the same level of knowledge about the subject matter/ job and cand 1 with that knowledge also has a masters degree, but as naija if i no wan pay them correct na the B.Sc guy biko, because i ll pay him less compared to the other guy, might not sound fair but that is the reality of life,
sholashola
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #39 on: December 26, 2007, 11:46 AM »

It depends on the type of work. If the job requires practicality then candidate B will fare better. HE has actually been there
joobreel (m)
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #40 on: December 28, 2007, 08:22 AM »

abeg, can anyone in HR of well a grounded company enlighten me on this subject matter. for graduates of nigeria universities, is work experience preffered to master's degree in a nigeria university. i am in a dilema because i just finished this december and i don't know what choice to make.
jejeloye (m)
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #41 on: January 02, 2008, 02:19 PM »

i think guy option B stands more chance because of the years of exp. but if they r both opportuned to be in the same company, guy option A will earn more and be on a higher level than guy option B
Elgaxton (m)
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #42 on: January 03, 2008, 02:31 PM »

5 different contracted companies should be it!

Masters is different from experience itself Cool
Dis Guy
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #43 on: January 03, 2008, 08:20 PM »

I'll hire them both  Wink

lets see what the HRM proffessionals have to say
Kabidoye
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #44 on: January 04, 2008, 09:18 AM »

well. i think candidate A is better because he has more expertise.  there is knowledge in skul. ma opinion of course.
lelele
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #45 on: January 07, 2008, 05:03 PM »

u will have 2 konsidar d breeding ( i.e what skools hav dey atended) the organisations dey hav woked 4, is it kompatible wit yr kompany's structure, their strengths & wiknesses, what do u want in a kanditate. Well all of this mite not count in a naija kompany because, its all about one kanditate outdoin the other, but if u ar considerin a multi-national org, den what u hav 2 offer koms first.
tinamic
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #46 on: January 08, 2008, 03:19 PM »

Except a company has a good package for her employee, it's not fun working for a company for 4yrs but all the same most times this thing no dey work for Naija. whether experience or no experience, omo, man know man still dey exist. anyway goodluck to Mr. A and B. i rest my case.Lips sealed
jimmyjam
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #47 on: April 12, 2008, 03:25 AM »

in nigeria the use and importance of education, training and experience where not fully explained to us by the british when they came to nigeria until most recently.

1 certification and technical schools and polytechnics give your direct hands on capabilities to work for emplyers or to go into working for yourself

2  degrees give you the ability to do research and to more effectively manage the money and resources in a particular area.

3 in short you are suppose to first get certified before you get a degree

4 expereince is something you are to be getting from day one meaning if your parents where pharmacists and you used to follow them to work and you learned a few things from them you are as good having some experience!

5 its best to combine all these experience, education and certification together

6 another thing you will need is mentorship i.e someone in the same career who is senior to you who can guide, support, teach you, be your god father etc

7 almost everywhere in the world now certification, license, chartered status are what governent and companies are requiring from lawers, doctors, IT/telecom, bankers,accountants, project management etc

however ive noticed that the richest of all don't have any of these things but experience. e.g  dangote, bill gates, john d rockerfeller etc
kittykat (f)
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #48 on: April 15, 2008, 08:54 PM »

I believe candidate B rules.In Nigeria,years of experience matters a great deal.Masters is an added advantage.If starting a career and you have a masters degree without workin experience,you are as good as a starter.
jimmyjam
Re: Masters Degree Or Work Experience To Work In Nigeria
« #49 on: April 15, 2008, 11:21 PM »

I agree kitty but a lot of people don't understand this until they make the mistake and then learn the hardway or they can learn from the mistake of others.

oh yes and another demension is the God factor without which all efforts are futile, so he should always be remembered!
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