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EmekaNaija (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #32 on: December 20, 2007, 08:55 PM »

@egoldman

When i made the statement, i used "WE", (Why are WE Nigerians so lazy) meaning i'm also involved. Stop taking things personal.

Although i knew the meaning by instincts, i wasn't very sure. If i was, there would be no need searching for the meaning of T24: Lifelong learning is the word.

But truly, we are a lazy bunch. When i say lazy, i'm not talking about not working hard, because i know Nigerians are hardworking. I mean that we find it hard to study. We cannot read even common newspaper. Some of us just read the headlines and sports page. What other effort is required to Google something. We already have internet access to post on Naira-land, simply open another window and Google T24 - its that simple.
oldie (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #33 on: December 20, 2007, 09:06 PM »

Just passing bye,
Quality of discussion is very shallow, especially from our bankers!
Wrong syntax, poor sentence structure etc
No wonder service delivery in this sector is hit and miss Angry
Egavlas (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #34 on: December 20, 2007, 09:11 PM »

The worst of the unethical things we see banks do in the name of getting clients to deposit with em or "Enhancing their *buttom* line" , is the way the ladies are put under soo much pressure that they get to compromise morals in  "marketing".

I told myself sometime back that I would not get into a serious relationship with any bank girl and most definitely not a marketer. Apologies to the poster but you may be different.

presido1 (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #35 on: December 20, 2007, 09:14 PM »

Topic
This is very wrong, to cut salary without prior notice. Atleast they should have given you guys about three to six months notice that so so date the wage will be cut to so so level and with the reason specified. Their must be a regulatory body in the financial sector i will advice you guys to write them copied to H O Rep and presidency. This can never happen anywhere outside nigeria.
top_kin (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #36 on: December 20, 2007, 09:38 PM »

@ Frankbonus
Konye you are entitle to your opinion and decision, but do you take time to look at how many people are looking and searching for the position you find your self? how ever if you think you have done what Napoleon could not do why take the decision all by yourself and alone? do you not believe in the power of crud? why not meet with your other marketers and see if they are of the same opinion with you so that what ever action you guys take will be felt by the organisation. Because if you decide to do it alone ,who cares if you leave and probably live with your few customers. some stat ff of a particular bank eve though aged in the profession were ask to go on compulsory retirement, they did not argue it but what they did was to call all those given the retirement and ask them to get work elsewere, after getting most of them drag their customers away into their new organisation, when the previous bank felt it they have to call them back with a better package and remuneration that is even more than the one they were collecting . so you can see the reason why am saying what is your contribution to the organisation, can it be felt when you live or is it from fry pan to fire?



I think if u are gainfully employed u wnt talk like this. You are really an insensitive and selfish person. If someone gives u a whole lot of money (u av made plans for it) and later takes everytin frm u how wuld u feel? People sweat it out daily to meet up wit demands and after raising their hopes so high, it becomes dashed, is it fair? Even the increment that was given before, is it really commensurable with the efforts put into the work? You just open your leaking mouth and talk anyhow. I wish it happens to u.  Angry  Idiota!!!

Jim Ovia will definitly loose manpower with the rash, irrational and erratic decision he just made!!!
ziddy (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #37 on: December 20, 2007, 10:27 PM »

Quote from: oldie on December 20, 2007, 09:06 PM
Just passing bye,
Quality of discussion is very shallow, especially from our bankers!
Wrong syntax, poor sentence structure etc
No wonder service delivery in this sector is hit and miss Angry


didnt you know bankers are an empty-headed lot. the jumbo pay is about the only thing they've got going for them. Grin you need to be inside their system for just one day, the ugly grammar they use in their internal correspondence will just give you migraine.  Grin


'revert back', 'do the needful', and other horrible terminologies.
dustydee (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #38 on: December 20, 2007, 10:43 PM »


@double N
I'm sure you work with Unity bank,union or First bank.Dont be jealous
indie (f)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #39 on: December 20, 2007, 10:45 PM »

"'revert back', 'do the needful', and other horrible terminologies. "  Grin Grin
about the slash in salary, i find that really hard to believe. konye, u should have waited till the 'dreaded friday' before posting your thread. this way u'll be 100% sure of what u're saying as this could be mere hearsay. no corporate organization slashes salary by half without notice to her staff.  but IF it really did happen, then that's really appalling & should be heard in court. for those affected, u have my sympathy.
ifyalways (f)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #40 on: December 20, 2007, 10:49 PM »

Quote from: oldie on December 20, 2007, 09:06 PM
Just passing bye,
Quality of discussion is very shallow, especially from our bankers!
Wrong syntax, poor sentence structure etc
No wonder service delivery in this sector is hit and miss Angry

hehe  Grin Grin Grin Grin
zooms off
modeM
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #41 on: December 20, 2007, 11:05 PM »

I think it will make a lot of sense and save time as well,if people could get their facts right before postng informaion here.It really doesnt make logical sense that Zenith will slash salaries by 50 percent in a perfectly competitive market! where labour resources can move without any form of limitations.Trust me,if it is true,then Zenith wont be the only bank slashing,its usually a trend,one bank increases others follow suit,the opposite wont be different. This will only make sense if there is some form of depression in the economy that we are not aware of.
clareomiz (f)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #42 on: December 20, 2007, 11:46 PM »

Hey people!
Please lets take this easy! we 've seen this whole scenario before and this is definitely not going to be the last time. come to think of it, this kind of s**t happens even in advanced countries. Which would the average worker actually prefer? downsizing OR general pay cut? this means that the management of Zenith actually choose the "lesser evil". I actually think we should talk small small,  because NOBODY HOLY PASS!

and for Ziddy! may the Heavens forgive you for blasphemy! How dare you make such a blunder by generalising? I personally take exception to your kind of language and pray that you come to your senses one day! lets all watch and see how this goes,  I actually feel for my Zenith people o! 1 LOVE TO UNA!
clareomiz (f)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #43 on: December 20, 2007, 11:58 PM »

Come to think of it, I just went through Ziddy's posts and found out this guy is full of insults and foul language! Let's keep an eye on this guy here because he has the tendency of turning good threads into 'beef" threads. so watch it ziddy and let's face the real issues!BIG BROTHER IS ALWAYS WATCHING!
Finecat (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #44 on: December 21, 2007, 12:41 AM »

@Debosky

Reading your post, it shows that you know nothing about banking systems. Most of these banks posting outrageous earnings and going offshores to burrow money at a time like this are the ones that people should watch. There is nothing wrong with banks burrowing money but they do it at a conducive and favorable time. Offshore capital credits are in a turbulence times, especially the western capital market that these banks burrow money from. In the USA, most big banks are really feeling the effect of the housing bust which has made giving credits a headache. Banks in the USA and Europe now give loans at exuberance rates. So, tell me if you burrow at high rate will you sell at low rates? The practises of most Nigerian banks are not realistic for the knid of economy Nigeria has, they are too cosmetic.
Pain
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #45 on: December 21, 2007, 02:06 AM »

When I Predicted The Fall Of Transcorp With My "Former Profile" I Was A Pariah. Attacked and Castigated. When I Predicted Salary Cuts In Most Banks and the Coming Burble Burst It Was Worse. These banks just engage in phony profit declarations. I was once with one of this banks ( 6 Months Only ). Recruited straight from the camp. Promised overseas training, bla bla bla. Then the Software they were using was Temenos Globus 12.0. I found a "lot of ways around it". I raised my concerns and guess what? I was sidelined due to the insecurity of my boss. I was made very irrelevant from then onwards. He didnt even mind if I could stay off work and meetings, he would be still very happy to pay me my salary. I just needed to be shrouded away from management. Imagine?

So I took off. Now im happier. What out for the Fall of Jim. Its my Prophesy of Doom Shocked Better divest your investments with Z. A warning is enough for the Wise.
lawyer (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #46 on: December 21, 2007, 02:37 AM »

@konye

I have read your angry post at zenith and you complained bitterly about it and your allegding a breach of contract with the bank. Let me put some legal perspectives to you for you to know whether zenith commited a breach of contract with you.

1. There can only be a breach of contract if only you signed one. Technically speaking it is called an agreement and you must have probably signed an employment agreement with the bank. If you didnt sign one or the bank didnt offer you one, there is no breach because it doesnt exist.

2. If you indeed signed an employment agreement, it must contain the following clauses at least:

a. The term of the contract, stating how long you would work for the company and when it would end and if there is an option of renewal of the agreement

b. Your duties and obligation to the company

c. Compensation for the time you spend at work whether your being paid monthly, weekly, quarterly or whenever and stating how much you would earn ( in words and figures)

d. Fringe benefits, bonuses and other perks of working for the company

e. compensation for illegally terminating the agreement ( also known as severance package)

f. Termination of the employment agreement which could either be by breach of your duties, death, cause, without cause or special termination

g. whether you signed non-disclosure agreements, confidentiality and non-compete agreements

h. Equitable reliefs by the company to you in case they slash your salary or make any decision that is totally adverse to the terms and conditions of the contract

3. And a host of other employment clauses inserted into the employment agreement.

Now if the agreement does not provide for equitable reliefs and grants the bank the right to take certain decisions without your consent,  it is binding, as long as you signed the agreement, the bank is not liable because you consented to it, but if the bank acts erroneously and on its own without resorting to the employment agreement, then the issue of a breach of contract arises and you could be handsomely compensated.

So check your employment agreement again and let a labour law lawyer look into it to break it down for you. Contracts are very tricky things which must be adequately analysed by a specialist unless it could blow up in your face in future and i have this funny feeling, zenith lawyers inserted a clause that protects them if ever they decide to breach certain parts of the agreement because they know people don't read them and they are only interested in collecting their #190000 at first without thinking of the consequences.

So go through it again and get back to me if you think your in the dark and need more explanations.

P:s: If most of the things i highlighted above are not even in your employment agreement, then the whole employment issue was fraudulent from the start so you might have a very strong case. Labour law protects the employee more than the employer.
Dis Guy
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #47 on: December 21, 2007, 03:16 AM »

thought we had so many zenith staff on here   Undecided
hanen
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #48 on: December 21, 2007, 07:35 AM »

@ konye,

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Bangetsu
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #49 on: December 21, 2007, 08:26 AM »

Ok, peeps, just chill down,

@Konye, I'm highly dissapointed in you. I believe you should uphold the image of wherever you work and be proud of it. your letting your emotions cloud your judgment, there are TONS of people who would love to be in your position. If u think its bad, just imagine being jobless for a couple of months.

And why d hell didnt u cumplain when we got almost 100% increase. Was that part of your "contract" too? Why didnt u take the bank to EFCC to ask where they got the money to pay staff such high amounts from?

Zenith bank DID not slash staff salaries. There was a meeting amongst management and it was decided that the current salary structure meant we were eating into our PROPOSED profit (which doesnt make much sense, I mean why eat profit u havent actually made yet?)

So a portion of the salary has been taken out to be paid at the end of the year. This amount will depend on how well a staff has worked for that financial yr and will be based on the appraisals of your boss

So if u've actually worked hard. All the bumper salary u've been expected will come to u at the end of the yr.

T24 was not a failed project. I know because I was a part of it. We achieved EVERYTHIN on that platform. The  transition process was just not smooth enough,  And our IPO combined with ensuing continued customer confidence made us pause on the project. We will achieve it by next yr by d grace of jah,

We remain d baddest bank in d industry, anyone feel free to disagree with me. We got all d stuff to make it to d top

We get graduates, not ND's in all our positions. We take care of our staff. Management had d option of maintaining bumper salaries and firing of incompetent staff. I mean, we all know that in every organisation, there are wheat and weed. So why d hell should the weed eat as much as the weed? We have to weed out d damn weed,  how do we do this,  by appraisals,  which will determine who gets what at the end of d year.

Please anyone who feels disgruntled should resign and haul his/her ass out of d system.

Personally I think we bozzez are the bomb,  In life, no matter how bad your situation is,  there's alw someone in a worse situation,  (eg,  driver earnin 20k a month to feed 6 children and 4 wifes),. There's alw someone who's better, ( my oil cumpany homeboys)

I gotta roll back to work,  I go hail una later.
frankiriri (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #50 on: December 21, 2007, 08:31 AM »

@ konye.
I think you are being too hasty.  Why not wait until the details are worked out before crying out.  I also believe that you shouldn't be washing your dirty linen in public. If you feel that badly take the honourable option and resign before causing a run on the bank.
What do you intend to archieve by this.  Huh
Mystique (f)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #51 on: December 21, 2007, 09:17 AM »

Unfortunatley, its true, there HAS been a reduction in staff slaries (100% off the annual basic), and there has not been an official document to that effect, just word of mouth from the respective branch heads/HOD's. . .

Someone once predicted that Jim Ovia will be the nexy Ken Lay of Enron. . .  It just makes me wonder. . . .  Sad Sad Sad
What with the salary slash and the public offer every now and then. . .  Hmmmm. . . .  It just makes me REALLY wonder. . . .  Undecided Undecided Undecided
Dividends (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #52 on: December 21, 2007, 09:37 AM »

I used to think Nairaland is a forum for civilized people to share ideas,experiences,information and most of all FACTS. Now I know better. Now I know people also come to Nairalnd to settle scores, mislead the public and you may not believe this- do a hatchet  job!

 Konye (the first poster) comes across as an employee who lacks in loyalty. Hear her :", THEY ARE A DISGRACE TO THE NIGERIAN BANKING SECTOR, " Simply because there seem to be talks of a review in pay? One wonders why she did not come out in like manner to declare way back in August/Sept after the bumper pay raise to proclaim :" THEY ARE A BLESSING TO THE NIGERIAN BANKING SECTOR"!

Konye also hits me as being discretionally bankrupt. Which security-conscious employee of a bank in today's Nigeria would come out in an online forum with a large a followership as Nairaland's to announce: ", payment for december is on friday, " May Allah protect all Zenith bank staff and staff buses as they go home this Friday.

Confidentiality of information is an integral part of the Employer-Employee r/ship. I find it lacking in :", if u are a staff your branch head should have addressed u and your colleagues about the recent developement during your tuesday meeting,u should know there was a summit in civic center which your branch head must have attended, " Whatever happened to the traditional Oath of Secrecy!

For those of us who plan to be entrepreneurs someday insha Allah, how many of us would warmly embrace employees who run their mouths as soon as they get wind of any form of restructuring? Someone close to the authorities in Zenith informed me last week that what Zenith plans to do is a re-structuring of compensation packages aimed at ensuring that people are rewarded based on their performance. It is an arrangement that would see diligent employees rising and getting promoted over their more indolent peers. According to my friend, under the new arrangement a Zenith employee who scores an "A" in the periodic appraisal would earn 115% of the Profit Sharing. A "B+" employee earns 100% while a "B" man earns 85% of the PS and so on.

For now, what we actually know is that the pay package of Zenith Bank staff is YET to be altered. So Konye's post and this entire thread is un-called for. It is akin to putting the cart before the horse. Let's wait for accurate information, for it is  then  and only then can  we reasonably[b][/b] begin to comment.

Finally, (1) I am human and I cannot resist the temptation of asking Konye what personal "beef" she has against Ovia. See: ", Jim ovia has decided to make the staff of zenith bank pay for his mistake with his T24 THAT FAILED thats the problem with these our so called one man nigerian firms, "  Are sole proprietorships Nigerian in origin?

 (2) I am percipient and when someone openly declares ", I HATE ZENITH BANK, " it worries me because I can smell a case of dementia somewhere.

(3) I love flawless grammar and it pisses me off when someone REPEATEDLY replaces B-R-E-A-C-H (of contract) with B-R-E-E-C-H.
Bangetsu
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #53 on: December 21, 2007, 10:21 AM »

Dividends,  You d man,  or woman,  as d case may be,
Princesege (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #54 on: December 21, 2007, 10:37 AM »

Wev must all be watchful and careful about the activities of all these banks. I am concerned not just for Zenith but the banking system in Nigeria. We are yet to develop a robust system backed up by legal framework with adequate goverment or regulatory policies. That is why anybody can just wake up and say your salary has been slashed.
It is sad to hear that. In the UK, before a thing of that magnitude could be done there must have been a serious consultation and at least a year notice. 

Jim Ovia should thread carefully on the way he conducts himself. I will suggest to him to look inward and carefully though before taking any action that may have a lasting negative effect on what he has built so far.

All said, we Nigerian must watch the activities of these so called banks. I am currently disappointed about what GTB did.
GTB removed a 3rd party online transfer faciltiy without any prior notice.

I opened my account with GTB just because of this facility so that I can transfer money to brothers and sisters in the University and my aged parent. But now it was removed. You don't do things like that. GTB is not sensitive to its customers. I suspect there is more to this development. We must be watchful.

Can anyone explain why GTB removed 3rd party online transfer faciltiy?
I cannot even fund my stock account any more.

Can you imagine third party online transfer being stopped all in the name of security. No I don't think so. There must be something more than that. Here in the UK, you don't just remove a faciltity without informing your customers.
I was sad because I had planned to send money via this medium for Xmas festivity.
I think I have to close my account with GTB and go elsewhere. This is a breach of contract on the part of GTB. I opened the account just because of this online  3rd party transfer. A bank whose customers opinions do not matter.
Rubbish!.
ferdiii (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #55 on: December 21, 2007, 10:40 AM »

Why do we call one person a staff in Nigeria? Please speak and write well for our younger ones to unlearn these wrongs. What about our children? Please use a staffer for American or a member of staff for British English. Am out.
skima (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #56 on: December 21, 2007, 11:09 AM »

This is ridiculous! its a big shortchange on the people that made Zenith Bank "African bank of the year". this is the reward for your hardwork.

Some people are just out there possing to be "highly" intelligent but sincerely speaking they are just previledge to have the things they are in-charge of. Now we can see OBJ boys taking after his step.

I think its high time our youth realised that, there is nothing like "Job security" its old school. The company that can cut your salary without prior notice can as well lay you off same manner.

The only job security we have is our ability to develop our own business system and make it work for us even post-humously.

Here is the logic: less salary paid to the staff, more profit to the investors (the bigger bois).  but failure to follow the right step in making those decision will spell doom for the company.
Guardian (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #57 on: December 21, 2007, 12:09 PM »

Sometimes am ashamed to learn of things like this. HOW CAN AN IMPLEMENTATION FAIL !!!!. WHO HANDLED IT ? Some low cost stupid Nigerian company in colabo with dumps in Zenith ?

1. They ought to have used virtualization technology. Implement and run side by side the pilot for T24 ? Was this done ?

2. The fuckers in IT handling this project ought to have stressed and liased with operations team and business analyst to
    determine times, when volume of transactions/ operations are at their lowest, they didn't, instead they caused chaos -
    I waited near 6hrs to get my account credited from an interbranch transaction, it still took the next day betwen Apapa
    and Ikoyi, haba na so Standard bank dey do am for SA, na so Barcleys dey do am UK ? naija banking. Zenith my assss.

3. What's more 80% of the user's (Zenith staff) don't have knowledge and adequate training on Temenos very few even
    know what Globus is or the abrupt decison to change at the END OF THE YEAR.  How can you introduce a new system
    that your users aren't familiar with, I watched the Zenith bank staffs flip through user manuals just to get info on what
    procedure to follow to get functions on T24, some will call another staff at a different branch to know what menu to
    use. Like calling your friend in Ibadan to ask which menu to click to use Print function in MS Word aaaaah.

4. At the end of the exercise the staffs where at their lowest productivity ever, Stress unnecessarily, some exhibited bad
    attitude to customers.

5. Customers lost time, money and tired out from waiting on poorly planned, still executing project.

And what has the IT project got to do with salary na cashier implement T24 ? wetin concern marketer concern software ? All Zenith staff if Ovia doesn't  treat you well STRIKE !!!. All these none sense most stop. The bank is making money like mad.

Lastly, please someone tell me who implemented temenos for una oooooh,  na naija abi na Temenos themselves from UK.  I have worked with these guys and this kind mess up doesn't happen.








4. Lastly,

Na only naija all these kind things dey happen.
Pamperme
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #58 on: December 21, 2007, 12:39 PM »

whatever  Undecided
cecegorz (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #59 on: December 21, 2007, 01:23 PM »

@finecat

please go back to your spelling bee!
you  b-o-r-r-o-w money, not burrow
and at  e-x-o-r-b-i-t-a-n-t rate, not exuberance rate.

, and u're accusing Debosky of knowing nothing about  the banking sector meanwhile u can't even spell economic words. So much for  'I too knows'.

The truth is that in as much as the poster was too hasty to post this without seeing the payday yet, companies actually do that in this country, sometimes they make u pay for their mistakes without any prior notification. Believe me, i've been there and i know how it feels. It will completely disorganize your financial plans.
It's a terrible thing!
Finecat (m)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #60 on: December 21, 2007, 01:32 PM »

@cecgorz

You must be one of those idiots in the bank. Now you have something to teach your fellow idiots in the bank. By the way both words are spelled correctly. except for a typo. I bet you had to study the dictionary to write this, didn't you? Now go and watch some cartoons Buttbreath!
Lauradee01
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #61 on: December 21, 2007, 01:37 PM »

I really feel you Konye.
You guys need to understand what Zenith bank Marketers face out there.Especially the females.
Konye my sis,if bros Jim is not paying you enough for all the hustling you do for him,move over to Oceanic and Experience peace.
Go ask any Oceanic marketer.

Think Banking,Think Oceanic.
MyPeace (f)
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #62 on: December 21, 2007, 02:25 PM »

@Finecat

please be man enough to accept a common mistake and appreciate correction. Stop making excuses.
BashAlli20
Re: Zenith Bank Slashes Staff Salaries Just Before Christmas
« #63 on: December 21, 2007, 04:09 PM »

I guess Konye is not fully informed about the purported salary slash. From the information I gathered, I was relaibly informed that there was no money slash, rather the money is being kept as profit sharing which most banks do.
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