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ebumowa (f)
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@stillwater
"Silence is consent", now that's funny,
You are allowed to disagree with homosexuality all you want but comparing it to beastiality is ridiculous. You can have a sensible, mature debate on the difference in our views but when you bring beastiality into the debate, you turn it into a non debate, a shouting match.
Homosexualism and heterosexualism is between humans and has nothing to do with animals, that's the difference. Animals are in a lower class than humans, or do I have to remind you of PRIMARY SCHOOL SCIENCE. However if you think you and animals are of the same class, that's your choice. As they say "to each his own",
@toyinrayo
gaygal and I are not the same person,
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holythug (m)
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my God,
my  eyez don see  for Nairaland
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stillwater (f)
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ebumowa Oh you haven't heard of silence meaning consent, maybe you should go back to your PRIMARY SCHOOL PROVERBIAL EXPRESSIONS to know as much as it is the best answer for fools (you referred me to), it also means your consent  . Are you now discriminating against people that love to sleep with their dogs, rhinoceros, hippopotamus?  Homosexualism and heterosexualism is between humans and has nothing to do with animals, that's the difference. man to woman woman to woman man to dog Are they not all sexual orientations? Do you now consider beastiality as taboo, abomination or low? When you guys have fallen to the lowest of low, you have the guts to call another person's preference as low? Let brothers and sisters start having sex with themselves and start claiming for marriage freedom. Then we all would start going suspicious each time we see a brother and sister holding hands or hugging as nowadays men cannot hold hands or embrace anymore as a sign of friendship without perverted minds like you thinking they're gay. Continue feeding the world with your perversion and you think the world would not go lower that this, you make me laugh  . |
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lai-lai (m)
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the topic just became clear on my computer
sorry for intrudin anyway, but can i, ehm, ehm,
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ebumowa (f)
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The only thing I seem to do is make you angry, very angry, You are so lashing out so hatefully that your arguments don't make any sense. In your mind, gay people are responsible for everything from beastiality, incest to why men can't hold hands because gay people (perverted minds) will think they are gay  (I don't get). If you want to hold or hug your sister, brother and friends, go ahead! I have never heard of gay people stopping other people from holding or hugging, |
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Islander (f)
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@Poster.
I am NOT gay but would like to add my 2cents, Don't mind many of these so-called haters. Many are gay themselves just fearful of coming out of their dingy closets. The Bible says to judge not and I am being an obedient child. The last time I check "gay" was not contagious, so I won't be catch bashing anyone based on their lifestyle.
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stillwater (f)
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The only thing I seem to do is make you angry, very angry, You are so lashing out so hatefully that your arguments don't make any sense. In your mind, gay people are responsible for everything from beastiality, incest to why men can't hold hands because gay people (perverted minds) will think they are gay (I don't get). If you want to hold or hug your sister, brother and friends, go ahead! I have never heard of gay people stopping other people from holding or hugging, Maybe you don't understand English anymore . Ebumowa do you consider beastiality as low? |
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stillwater (f)
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The only thing I seem to do is make you angry, very angry, You are so lashing out so hatefully that your arguments don't make any sense. In your mind, gay people are responsible for everything from beastiality, incest to why men can't hold hands because gay people (perverted minds) will think they are gay (I don't get). If you want to hold or hug your sister, brother and friends, go ahead! I have never heard of gay people stopping other people from holding or hugging, Maybe you should read well next time. I said since gay people can demand for rights to what was taboo years ago we should all get prepared for beastialty demanding for theirs too. Ah ah is it that hard to read and understand. Anyway according to your signature, after making love to 25,000 people on stage, I don't think it would be that easy to understand simple English. |
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toyinrayo (f)
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@Poster.
I am NOT gay but would like to add my 2cents, Don't mind many of these so-called haters. Many are gay themselves just fearful of coming out of their dingy closets. The Bible says to judge not and I am being an obedient child. The last time I check "gay" was not contagious, so I won't be catch bashing anyone based on their lifestyle.
word!! @poster am not gay either, but keep your guards downsome people ask questions for question sake, not to rebuke you guys |
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ebumowa (f)
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Is that your best shot? That I make love to 25,000 people. Please, you can do better than that or you've run out of problems to blame gay people for?
What is wrong with demanding rights? I can't demand that my government recognizes my relationship with my partner? You know, one of the joys of living in a democracy; is that people vote and if every state decides to recognize gay relationships, then good. But please, don't tell me that I can't demand my rights because it was taboo years ago. It was taboo in the 1800's for blacks to demand the right to vote but they did nearly a century later,
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Jairzinho (m)
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@stillwater, I feel you fully. The world used to be all about BLACK and WHITE,GOOD or BAD before, but now,with all these relativity stuff,issues are neither here nor there,everything is grey(&diff shades of it). May God help us. I put a challenge to all guys . . . . . . . CONVERT A LESBIAN TODAY !!  |
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Siena (m)
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@stillwater, I feel you fully. The world used to be all about BLACK and WHITE,GOOD or BAD before, but now,with all these relativity stuff,issues are neither here nor there,everything is grey(&diff shades of it). May God help us. I put a challenge to all guys . . . . . . . CONVERT A LESBIAN TODAY !! A Lesbian is a Lesbian, you couldn't convert a Lesbian to become heterosexual - in fact, why would you try? Same way, one can't convert a heterosexual to homosexuality. The most you could do would be to get them to "dabble", but that would not change who they are. Leave the Lesbians to get on with it, it's their choice. |
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The Sly
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A Lesbian is a Lesbian, you couldn't convert a Lesbian to become heterosexual - in fact, why would you try?
Same way, one can't convert a heterosexual to homosexuality. The most you could do would be to get them to "dabble", but that would not change who they are.
Leave the Lesbians to get on with it, it's their choice.
well said! |
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stillwater (f)
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I felt like continuing my conversation with ebumowa but I decided otherwise. As someone mentioned it's a matter of choice though that shouldn't blind me from what is right and wrong. I hope I hurt no one's feelings. The last thing I want to do is to make enemies on nairaland.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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@Thiefofhearts
Lesbians grow defensive when asked a question because no matter the answer they give, it never satisfies the person asking the question. For example, if she says yes she has been with a guy; the reply is usually the guy wasn't good enough that's why she is a lesbian. If she says no, then the reply is usually she hasn't been with a guy so she doesn't know what she is missing.
I believe what gaygal is trying to say is that; there is more to lesbianism than just sex like there is more to heterosexualism than just sex First off I'm a female so no I wouldnt give such dumb excuses for her orientations, my mere question was "when and how did you realize you were a lesbian", I'm mainly curious since you don't find many Nigerian females claiming, that's all plus that question proves that I'm aware that it's more than sex, ok? I'm not here to ask or make idiotic and ignorant comments. Like I said before, she's a lesbian, big deal, doesnt phase me. between still comparing homosexuality to beastility is pretty damn dumb, stillwater. |
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ebumowa (f)
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@thiefof hearts.
I'm sorry if I came across as rude, I was just trying to explain why the question might make a lesbian defensive. You will surprised by how many people say such things to me when they ask me that question.
I have kind of known all my life but the time I knew "for real" was in 1996, and let me tell you; I didn't jump for joy. I went through many stages, extreme sadness, guilt, self disgust and so on. I tried to force myself to feel attracted to guys but you cannot force what isn't there. I tried dating guys (talk about a disaster), had crushes on girls but couldn't tell them and loads of other "issues". I am at peace with myself now and in a relationship with another Nigerian girl (who I didn't turn).
@stillwater
We can continue our "talk", I do not consider you an enemy. We can talk about our difference of opinion and you are entitled to your opinion.
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toyinrayo (f)
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omo daada  |
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illusion2
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A Lesbian is a Lesbian, you couldn't convert a Lesbian to become heterosexual - in fact, why would you try?
Same way, one can't convert a heterosexual to homosexuality. The most you could do would be to get them to "dabble", but that would not change who they are.
Leave the Lesbians to get on with it, it's their choice.
I beg to disagree O great Siena, While every adult if free to make his/her own choice like what to eat,wear,type or who to sleep with,we may be missing the spiritual dimension of homosexuality,I'll come to that later. I also will not discriminate ,because I certainly appreciate how difficult it is for those who are genuinely homosexual. What i have personally found out is that due to the seeming universal 'acceptance' of the gay lifestyle,a lot of people who hitherto weren't find it really easy to 'crossover'. So a lady who has had a few bad relationships wakes up one morning and says she's a lesbian As per a homo becoming a hetero & vice versa,apart from 'bisexuals' who effectively play this role very well, we have a number of glaring examples in modern time Sir Elton John for example claimed he was bisexual initially married a woman in 1984 & finally 'renounced' to become fully gay later. Please google Steve Stanton and read the really strannge story of a married man with kids who now wants to become a woman.The list goes on and on. So while the earlier poster's call to convert lesbians may be looking at the lighter side of things ,I for one I'm really concerned fellow Nigerians are opting for this really queer lifestyle. why not go celibate for example if you feel nothing for the opp sex? We may laugh and trivialise stillwater's comparisons wth bestiality etc but they are all sexual perversions by this i mean pedophila,incest,bestiality ,homosexuality etc Just like homosexuality is been defended right now with all possible rational explanations,sex with animals is definitely next on the queue along with sex with children I don't mean to be a prude or something,just giving my own point of view.  |
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Your New Year resolution should be that you stop being a drama queen, stillwater @thiefof hearts.
I'm sorry if I came across as rude, I was just trying to explain why the question might make a lesbian defensive. You will surprised by how many people say such things to me when they ask me that question.
I have kind of known all my life but the time I knew "for real" was in 1996, and let me tell you; I didn't jump for joy. I went through many stages, extreme sadness, guilt, self disgust and so on. I tried to force myself to feel attracted to guys but you cannot force what isn't there. I tried dating guys (talk about a disaster), had crushes on girls but couldn't tell them and loads of other "issues". I am at peace with myself now and in a relationship with another Nigerian girl (who I didn't turn).
@stillwater
We can continue our "talk", I do not consider you an enemy. We can talk about our difference of opinion and you are entitled to your opinion.
No need to apologize as it's gaygal who has been rude, not you. I can't say I don't blame them for being defensive as you have a child comparing a relationship between two human beings to being the same as a human and an animal. One would think with the overflowing amount of issues in Nigeria, homosexuality would be the least of their problems. Then again, it could be worse, they could be making disgustingly idiotic songs about burning such people like they do in the Carribean. Anyway how did you meet your current partner? |
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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illusion,
Elton was always gay, he used his wife as a beard (coverup) as many people did around then and STILL do.
George Michael, once big time ladies man wanted to stop hiding and came out later on in his life, such things really arent that surprising. As for why don't they become celibate, who exactly are you again? Who are you to say what they should or shouldnt do again? Who died and made you king?
Dont know why people whine so much about them, like i said they are so many other things that you guys could worry themselves with. As for Pedophilia, that's a HUGE thing in Nigeria. Search for the "when did you lose your virginity" thread and you'll see the amount of people who confessed that their house girl or boy take it from them at ages like 11 and 12.
Instead of worrying about how 10 yr olds are raped of their innocence, you people are crying over consenting adults.
How about focusing on why you still lack electricity and running water then get back to me.
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ebumowa (f)
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@thiefofhearts, At a party (not a gay party), she came with a friend and I was there at the behest of a friend (she felt I needed to get out more). We were introduced, found out we lived in the same area and ended up hanging out and exchanging numbers at the end. We hung out after then, one day I asked her 'Are you gay? Because I am, and except my gaydar is really out of focus; I believe you are". She said she was (imagine my relief) and the rest is history, |
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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cool How have your parents/family taken this whole thing? or they don't know? |
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iice (f)
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Don't really see the connection between pedophilia and homosexuality. . .
We are talking about consenting adults here 
BTW i didnt see the homo-spirituality you were talking about @ illusion
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illusion2
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@iice,
If you read a bit about demonology and occultism,you'll find out some of their rites involve homosexual acts,in addition to this fact is that demons are asexual,and once they possess anybody the person's perception of opposite or same sex definitely becomes skewed.
Like I said I'm not trying to be 'holier than thou', because I understand how genuine gays struggle,which one of us doesn't have what we struggle with?
However God's grace is sufficient,the most important thing is for one to seek sincerely seek a solution rather than accept what is not.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Not everyone believes in your God, the sooner you hypocrites accept this, the better.
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illusion2
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Not everyone believes in minding their own business,the sooner you 'gbeboruns' accept this, the better
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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You know you just contradicted yourself right?
Oponu.
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illusion2
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How?
A lai l'eko
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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ah but I do, just not for you.
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ebumowa (f)
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@thiefofhearts
I am not out but many people know. My parents don't know, I still live with them and I plan to tell them after graduation. Some of my friends in Nigeria know, half of my friends in the United States know while the other half suspect; two of my sisters know(one is okay with it and the other kind of tolerates it).
I am not one to go about telling people "hey, I'm gay" (my sister says its quite obvious), however I have had some Nigerians friends come up to me and ask me, my reply is usually "mind your business" . I am not oblivious to the possiblity that I will lose some friends and family members when I come out, but I will cross that bridge when I get there.
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