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nuzo (m)
Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« on: January 03, 2008, 09:25 AM »

Adeniyi also ruled out any plan to raise a probe panel on the eight-year tenure of former President Olusegun Obasanjo, saying that such an action was not in tandem with the "philosophy of government" under President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua. -Guardian newspapers.

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/news/article01/030108

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On the clamour for the probe of Obasanjo, Adeniyi said the action was not "in tandem with his (President's) philosophy of government. For a man who has been preaching due process and the rule of law, the idea of a probe is clearly out of the question. There are some issues we must first clarify, probe is a military terminology, a populist tendency to criminalize opponents, sometimes without hard evidence. The moment you say someone is being probed in Nigeria, you have already passed judgment on the character of the person who is deemed guilty until he can prove his innocence, a difficult task in such situation.

"No government committed to the rule of law as this one is would do that. What any responsible government does is that if there are clear cases of infractions, like abuse of office, such matters would be reported to the relevant agencies or the Attorney-General would file charges in court.

"I don't know what Obasanjo did that would warrant a probe panel being set up for people to now go and be making allegations that cannot stand in a court of law so he could be humiliated publicly. I know the former President is not popular with the media so I can understand the basis for the call. But let's be fair to the former President. While he is not perfect as none of us is, he did his very best for this country and doesn't deserve the current harassment."

@topic
One can now see that Ribadu was not allowed to do his job. And Yaradua may not be a saint after all.



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Kobojunkie
Re: Obj's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed- Presidency.
« #1 on: January 03, 2008, 04:17 PM »

wow!!!! Huh
Bankole01 (m)
Re: Obj's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed- Presidency.
« #2 on: January 03, 2008, 04:31 PM »

Did any of you think or ever thought Yar'Adua (or dumb) has the backbone to do anything. The man don't even know how to be a real Nigerian politician by robbing his State and country blind. The man is a do nothing, ideas challenged cattle rearer in a fancy uniform.

The man is part of the problem in Nigeria and a whole-hearted conspirator in the in April (s)elections. He came out trying to deceive, spouting this " rule of law, order and probity" hogwash.
On the one hand, telling all the (s)elections were flawed, but doing everything to stay in office.

How can a president with no mandate, probe his benefactor?
Nigerians a very gullible and ignorant 'know it alls', who can't see beyond the bridge of their own noses.
In misguided patriotism fervor, we want peace and understanding of those who continously make rules against the people and continue to selv-serving. Yet, they find supporters among our people who should know better.

No one is indispensable and Ribadu had allowed himself to be used for political reasons in the past, he is however a lot better than any figure-head and puppet whop will be put in his place.
nuzo (m)
Re: Obj's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed- Presidency.
« #3 on: January 04, 2008, 05:28 AM »

@bankole

You got it right. In as much as Ribadu had his own shortcomings, the next EFCC boss is likely to be a figure head, a puppet and finally a national disaster.
cute9jaguy (m)
Re: Obj's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed- Presidency.
« #4 on: January 04, 2008, 06:05 AM »

@the topic,
lets watch,i strongly believe obasanjo will be probed,the next EFCC boss will suprise us all, this might be a prophecy.
Kobojunkie
Re: Obj's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed- Presidency.
« #5 on: January 04, 2008, 07:35 AM »

Quote from: cute9jaguy on January 04, 2008, 06:05 AM
@the topic,
lets watch,i strongly believe obasanjo will be probed,the next EFCC boss will suprise us all, this might be a prophecy.

Can we please stop attaching the word PROPHECY to practically anything?? LMAO!!!! It is beyond creepy now how we all think we have the future of Nigeria figured out in that way. I am watching this YarAdua dude and I hope this post is not for real. Maybe He is going to release a statement on sunday saying he was misquoted or something. Grin
ndubest (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #6 on: January 04, 2008, 08:53 AM »

Media assistant to the president may have been pointing out the "immediate" priorities of his boss

that does not mean that the activities of the last admin will not be looked into when the time is right
yemmight (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #7 on: January 04, 2008, 10:17 AM »

Honestly, as the political events keep happening in recent days here, it appears to me that this President cannot firmly take decision take may impact either negative or positive on this nation. 

Look at the posting of Ribadu. I am almost certain that the posting is not his wish, and yet he allows it passed.  When Obj was leaving he increased the fuel prices, if Yaradua can take his decision, such prices could be reversed that time.  Among the people short listed to succeed Ribadu is an associate of Ibori.  What do you think that person will do to Ibori? These and some other issues affecting this country that require someone that is firm is actually lacking in Yaradua.

Please don’t be surprised that this nation may as well be governed by the same bad elements as we have them in the past eight years.
cute9jaguy (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #8 on: January 04, 2008, 10:29 AM »

hmmm,God knows where to catch them, lets sit back,fasten our sitbelts and watch them. Aluta continua,
adechuks (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #9 on: January 04, 2008, 10:34 AM »

Segun Adeniyi, former Editor of ThisDay newspapers and now presidential spokesman per excellence -sic, surprises me though.
I remember his missiles while he wrote for ThisDay. He is finally showing that he is just another politician.
cute9jaguy (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #10 on: January 04, 2008, 10:40 AM »

I knew he was going to change, power toxicates, remember.
yemmight (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #11 on: January 04, 2008, 11:07 AM »

Ade

You will not need to blame Adeniyi because the guy is just "The Prisedent Dog".  Do you remember Akin Osuntokun when he was working for OBJ.  That guy bites anybody who goes against The President like they will never separate.  I remember him very well also as a critics when he was with the Media.  So I can,t blame Segun for his comments now.
C_JAY (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #12 on: January 04, 2008, 11:32 AM »

Na wah oh.

Quote from: Bankole01 on January 03, 2008, 04:31 PM
Did any of you think or ever thought Yar'Adua (or dumb) has the backbone to do anything. The man don't even know how to be a real Nigerian politician by robbing his State and country blind. The man is a do nothing, ideas challenged cattle rearer in a fancy uniform.

The man is part of the problem in Nigeria and a whole-hearted conspirator in the in April (s)elections. He came out trying to deceive, spouting this " rule of law, order and probity" hogwash.
On the one hand, telling all the (s)elections were flawed, but doing everything to stay in office.

How can a president with no mandate, probe his benefactor?

Yes I strongly believe Yaradua for all of his goodwill he lacks the sheer legitimacy to prosecute his predecessor.

The way forward should be to step down and conduct fresh elections.
babasin (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #13 on: January 04, 2008, 11:39 AM »

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Yes I strongly believe Yaradua for all of his goodwill he lacks the sheer legitimacy to prosecute his predecessor.

did OBJ prosecute  his predecessor?

You simply don't bite the hand that feeds you.

rather too late in the day. YARA-DULL is president and here to stay.

You should have shouted this last year when OBJ was selecting him!
fakande (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #14 on: January 04, 2008, 05:05 PM »

Obasanjo will definitely be probed. The corruption perpetrated under his watch is definitely too monumental to sweep under the carpet. The money he and his cohorts looted in the name of building new and refurbishing old roads and ensuring improvements in the energy sector is alarming. I may be wrong, but I view Ribadu's removal as a masterstroke by this Goverment as a precursor to initiating a silent probe into the affairs of Obasanjo. Ribadu, unfortunately had evolved into a media junkie who thrived on undue publicity which would be counter-productive. I see the appointment of a new EFCC chairman whose main focus would be on Obasanjo and the numerous shenanigans perpetrated by him and others at his behest.

But like I said earlier, I just may be wrong, my instincts tell me I'm not.
Babs_O (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #15 on: January 04, 2008, 06:16 PM »

Baba tried his best. With all his achievements, probing him is sign of disrespect. Most of those shouting can only achieve a fraction of what Baba achieved should they have been the president from 1999 to 2007. Cool
nikegolden
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #16 on: January 04, 2008, 09:43 PM »

wait till Ribadu is removed and tell me Obasanjo won't be removed.
mark my words.
shinystar (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #17 on: January 04, 2008, 10:47 PM »

 We should not forget that even OBJ did not start the anti-corruption until mid-way into his first term. Yar' Adua is a Fulani, most of whom are noted for tough decisions. He will act as soon as he has consolidated. I have no doubt Obj will be probed. It is only a matter of time.
nuzo (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #18 on: January 05, 2008, 10:55 AM »

When is the Yaradua going to consolidate? In 8 years time?
Ezenwenyi (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #19 on: January 05, 2008, 04:11 PM »

                                                              OBASANJO MUST BE PROBED

The greatest mistake the Yar'adua led government will do is failing to probe Obasanjo the former president of Nigeria,I don't care weather the word PROBE is a military terminology or not,he was and still is a military man.The next generation of Nigerian presidents won't forgive Yar'adua if he does not probe OBASANJO. The simple truth remains that Ribadu can not and will not want to probe Obasanjo who made him what he is today.So his removal is an advantage for Yar'adua to probe him.
    If by the middle of 2008 Obasanjo is not probed,it then means that Yar'adua is corrupt too,which means he also has to be probed regardless of his immunity
stillwater (f)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #20 on: January 06, 2008, 09:02 PM »

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"No government committed to the rule of law as this one is would do that. What any responsible government does is that if there are clear cases of infractions, like abuse of office, such matters would be reported to the relevant agencies or the Attorney-General would file charges in court.

Please they should remove the word responsible from the above quote Angry. Nigerian government is not worthy of it. By the way which "relevent agencies or Attorney-General" are we talking about here ---in Nigeria?
NigEclipse (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #21 on: January 07, 2008, 01:36 PM »

Stillwater's right, because they all embezzled  from their states' coffers. From OBJ, Alamieyeseigha, Sam Egwu and all the others.
coolkaboom (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #22 on: January 07, 2008, 01:51 PM »

maybe the term PROBE is what yar-a-dull administration is afraid of.its on record that he has silently been over-turning several of OBJs policies and i do believe that with the removal of OBJ-Loyal Ribadu, the coast is clear to appoint someone who isn't so scared of the ota farmer. that's what we all should concentrate on, who takes over at EFCC, i am a little disappointed that we as a people are too pre-occupied with Ribadu- that we are not looking at the bigger picture.

imagine if someone in the mould of Gani-Fawehinmi were to take-over the mantle.
Iyke-D (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #23 on: January 07, 2008, 04:46 PM »

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imagine if someone in the mould of Gani-Fawehinmi were to take-over the mantle.


Very laughable indeed. You think people won't complain about Gani? If Gani decides
to probe IBB, wouldn't that be considered a selective probe knowing how Gani has
come to hate IBB since the Dele Giwa's saga?

Also, read up on Gani's take on Ribadu's removal. Please don't make me laugh!
7th Mikel (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #24 on: January 07, 2008, 10:37 PM »

Quote from: Iyke-D on January 07, 2008, 04:46 PM
Very laughable indeed. You think people won't complain about Gani? If Gani decides
to probe IBB, wouldn't that be considered a selective probe knowing how Gani has
come to hate IBB since the Dele Giwa's saga?

Also, read up on Gani's take on Ribadu's removal. Please don't make me laugh!

na wa o, mr man, e be like say english na challenge.i said someone in d mould of, it's a whole different meaning than pickin gani himself.it simply means someone who is bold and courageous to go after all criminals without the burden of political patronage weihing him down.someone with a name and reputation to preserve. read twice (and maybe thrice) before u hasten to disagree just 4 d sake of startin an unnecesary argument. peace
emmydee (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #25 on: January 08, 2008, 10:51 AM »

Obasanjo's tenure shall be probed either now or in fututre. these  things will be looked into but with time.
Iyke-D (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #26 on: January 08, 2008, 11:41 AM »

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na wa o, mr man, e be like say english na challenge.i said someone in d mould of, it's a whole different meaning than pickin gani himself.it simply means someone who is bold and courageous to go after all criminals without the burden of political patronage weihing him down.someone with a name and reputation to preserve. read twice (and maybe thrice) before u hasten to disagree just 4 d sake of startin an unnecesary argument. peace

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na wa o, mr man, e be like say english na challenge.
Ah, you may be right on that one. . .

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means someone who is bold and courageous to go after all criminals without the burden of political
patronage weihing him down.someone with a name and reputation to preserve
And who may that be? Who are you going to appoint in Nigeria that somebody will not have a problem with maybe
not tomorrow but in a few months?

While I might have wrongfully harped on Gani, the point made is still valid as Gani has an axe to grind with the likes
of IBB and there is no way a Gani can choose to probe an IBB and he won't be accused of nursing a grudge. Now, you
can replace Gani with Mr X and IBB with Mr. Y and you will still get the drift. Finally, you can bet that they are people in
Nigeria who will disagree with you completely on your take on Gani as being courageous and having a reputation to
preserve (not me though).  Thanks for the English lesson.
 

angel101 (f)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #27 on: January 08, 2008, 11:46 AM »

Hmmm Classic naija. we will keep watching.
stillwater (f)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #28 on: January 08, 2008, 04:14 PM »

Quote from: emmydee on January 08, 2008, 10:51 AM
Obasanjo's tenure shall be probed either now or in fututre. these things will be looked into but with time.

I hope he would be alive to witness that day, since the man in question is not a young person.
ololakenny
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #29 on: January 12, 2008, 09:46 AM »

is only a change in party in power that can probe people like obasanjo, not a PDP handing to a PDP task. save for Yar'Adua who i don't know where he belongs in the corruption rank and file, the PDP is synonimous with corruption. for them in the party, corruption is like a way of life.

Yar'Adua cannot probe obasanjo, that's tantamount to breaking down the party's integrity and their sense of coporate invincibility even in the face of proven evidences of crime and corruption.

the N60b power plant is not working yet, the questions of the death of Bola Ige and others are yet to find any reasonable answer, etc.

Now that EFCC is closing on the IOB's and the old soldier's case, to get rid of the stubborn police officer is tantamount. u understand. it is all a man-know-man PDP thing.

kosovo (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #30 on: January 12, 2008, 11:57 AM »

BABA  Nor mind them.
nothing dey happen, who get two head make him go ota farm go prob u.
thanks for makin democracy  stay.in naija.
baba long may u live and see all your enemies tremble at your feet.
1luv OBJ.
nottin do u,
segunpc (m)
Re: Obasanjo's 8 Years Tenure Will Not Be Probed - Presidential Aide
« #31 on: January 15, 2008, 10:24 AM »

i bliv that one day and very soon when d pressure begins to mount on yar'adua e ll give way 4 obj to b probed.

segun is only saying what he is being told to say, so lets leave him out of it.

and for obj if his hands r clean let him submit himself for probe.

soon now or later breeze go blow we go see fowl ass.

just like d waivers e gave to his cronies.
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