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McKren (m)
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Count Nevada out, Obama just secured the union endorsement.
God knows the guy Obama is a very shrewd behind the scene operator
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I-man (m)
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@Davidylan You said after the N.Hampshire primaries that,in the post-primaries speeches,while Clinton read from notes,Obama spoke without such aid.Well,that was actually a well calculated deceptive ploy. Obama was the only candidate-GOP and Democrat-in both Iowa and N.Hampshire to use a teleprompter.It gives TV viewers the illusion that he is speaking from the heart and helps to solidify his image.  |
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davidylan (m)
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to be frank @ I-man, Clinton has always been ahead on the polls . . . her loss in Iowa was very shocking as i did not expect her to lose in a majority white state. Barring another shocker Clinton will pick the nomination. I doubt Obama will have a better chance than these. If ony Hillary could die tomorrow.  |
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JeSoul (f)
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@Davidylan You said after the N.Hampshire primaries that,in the post-primaries speeches,while Clinton read from notes,Obama spoke without such aid.Well,that was actually a well calculated deceptive ploy. Obama was the only candidate-GOP and Democrat-in both Iowa and N.Hampshire to use a teleprompter.It gives TV viewers the illusion that he is speaking from the heart and helps to solidify his image. wow really! thanks I-man for that ammunition to slam back at my co-worker who couldn't stop raving about how obama's speech was "from his heart"! and so inspiring and Hillary was reading a script! lol, I'm enjoying this much. between where did you hear about it? Hillary has a scary face and eery smile, I was reminded of that during her speech. |
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I-man (m)
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@JeSoul And Mr. Obama, in his own way, is often as calculating as Mrs. Clinton. For example, he was the only candidate, Democratic or Republican, to use a teleprompter to deliver his Iowa and New Hampshire election-night speeches. It gave his speeches a quality and clarity that other candidates, speaking from notes or the heart, failed to achieve. But what he gained in polish, he lost in connection. 16th paragraph in this link http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119992615845679531.html?mod=opinion_main_commentariesI wondered about this while I was watching it.I thought Obama must be an improvisational genius,if he was actually speaking from the heart on such an emotionally turbulent night,seemed a stark contrast from Hillary's speech but now I know the answer. |
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McKren (m)
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Sorry how does the telepromter work?  ? |
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I-man (m)
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http://www.pr-inside.com/andy-martin-says-barack-obama-is-r372467.htmLet me start by stating the obvious: Obama gives a good speech. On Iowa caucus night, however, I gave my vote for "most effective speech" to Senator John Edwards, not Obama and certainly not Senator Hillary Clinton. I usually refer to Clinton as "wooden." I'm being nice.
Why do I disagree with the herd about Obama? First, they are listening, but not seeing, what is happening. Second, Obama has yet to demonstrate the greatness of a truly powerful speaker. Finally, his "speech" is getting stale.
First, I am not a big television watcher. But on election nights I have to watch, to write, and so I watched. When Obama went on the stage to speak I was looking for something, but couldn't see it: a teleprompter. It wasn't clear whether there was prompter there. Only in watching reruns the next day was the presence of the prompter clear.
The teleprompter was an Andy Martin "gotcha" item. Whether I am on the battlefield or sitting on a couch, or even a bar, I look for the "gotcha" indication that betrays the true state of mind of the moment.
The prompter tells me a lot about Obama (sort of like a doctor diagnosing the patient, long-distance in this case). First, Obama was probably the last to speak Thursday night because he had people writing his speech. Second, and more importantly, he did not write his speech. Finally, someone wrote his words for him.
The teleprompter incident also explains for me a disconnect that some in the media have legitimately observed: that Obama delivers "great" speeches but does poorly in debates. Why? Because when he doesn't have people to write for him in a debate, his own words end up faltering. And so, Obama can deliver a speech, but he can't compose one on the fly. His words are someone else's.
The man is pulling a wool over a lot of people's eyes.Always try and observe how he performs at debates.No wonder he rarely does Q & A sessions
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I-man (m)
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Sorry how does the telepromter work? ? A teleprompter (also known as an autocue) is a display device that prompts the person speaking with an electronic visual text of a speech or script. Using a teleprompter is similar to the practice of using cue cards. The screen is in front of the lens of the camera, and the words on the screen are reflected to the eyes of the speaker using a one-way mirror
(Note that this is only true in principle — when the space between the lens and the mirror is covered in a shroud, an ordinary glass pane will work as a one way mirror).
As the speaker does not need to look down to consult written notes, he or she appears to have memorized the speech or be speaking spontaneously, and will look directly into the camera lens. Cue cards, on the other hand, will always be placed away from the lens axis, making the speaker look at a point beside the camera, which leaves a "distracted" impression. |
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davidylan (m)
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na wa o . . . i must be frank i never really thot Obama did well on debates. I mentioned earlier that if Americans were to vote primarily based on debate performances the likes of Sen. Joe Biden would make a better Democratic candidate. Maybe i shall have to settle for a female US president afterall.  Obama why now? Teleprompter ke? I was begining to compare him to John F Kennedy. |
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I-man (m)
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http://www.pr-inside.com/andy-martin-says-barack-obama-is-r372467.htmObama was not speaking from the heart in Iowa; he was speaking off a teleprompter.
Now, second, to Martin Luther King. King did write his own material. There is no evidence that King had a teleprompter, or that he had a flock of hidden speechwriters composing his speeches for him. King was the real thing. King's words have endured because they were so powerful; they were so powerful because he wrote them and because he delivered them spontaneously. Someone observed that Obama sounds more sincere than Clinton.Of course he will,when Clinton is clearly reading from notes while he seems to be speaking from the heart.This gives an erroneous impression. The reality is that both have armies of speechwriters but Obama goes the extra-length- unlike anybody else in the entire race-to give the impression that his carefully crafted speeches are spontaneous. Nothing wrong with what he is doing but it highlights the need to be more circumspect towards politicians.
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JeSoul (f)
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I guess this shortens his list of qualifications from charming and gives great speeches to just charming. |
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doyin13 (m)
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@Iman and co You guys chastise Obama for lacking substance. Well nothing scares me like a conviction politician especially amongst the First World Countries. They are always one mental stop away from megalomania and group thinkFact is much of effective government work is to perpetuate mirages. The Presidents that are good at it often come out unscathed and most importantly leave the world unscathed. Take Clinton for example-------he is so good he convinced Davidylan he was one of the best. Blowjob or no Blowjob |
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I-man (m)
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@doyin13.The concept of a conviction politician is an oxymoron.However,if someone is promising "heaven and earth"(finish off al-Qaeda,end the war in Iraq,end income inequality,revive US manufacturing industry,et.c)its reasonable to ask how he intends to achieve all these lofty goals.
What distinguishes Obama from most other candidates is the level of expectations he has created in his supporters.Nobody supporting Clinton or Giuliani shares this same rose-tinted view of what their candidate can actually do.There is a huge chasm,in Obama's case more than most,between the expectations he creates and the means by which he intends to realise those expectations.
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JeSoul (f)
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na wa o . . . i must be frank i never really thot Obama did well on debates. I mentioned earlier that if Americans were to vote primarily based on debate performances the likes of Sen. Joe Biden would make a better Democratic candidate. Maybe i shall have to settle for a female US president afterall. Obama why now? Teleprompter ke? I was begining to compare him to John F Kennedy. abeg Hillary's proposed policies are horrible, settle for another Republican president. |
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doyin13 (m)
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@I-man
HmmmBut I doubt many of the people who support Obama are all too bothered, at the moment, about his administrative abilities.
If they did they would be aware of the policy vacuum that is his campaign so far.
It is the feel good factor. He might not improvise great speeches, but he still delivers an inspiring pre-prepared one.
After eight years of the reliable 'good boy next door' mannerisms of George Bushthe gospel according to Obama might be what the
American public require.
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davidylan (m)
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abeg Hillary's proposed policies are horrible, settle for another Republican president.
Like the consistently inconsistent Mccain? Mitt Romney or Rudy Giuliani sound like better candidates but i don't see anyone of them beating Hillary Clinton in the November elections. The momentum would be fully on her side then. @I-man
HmmmBut I doubt many of the people who support Obama are all too bothered, at the moment, about his administrative abilities.
If they did they would be aware of the policy vacuum that is his campaign so far.
It is the feel good factor. He might not improvise great speeches, but he still delivers an inspiring pre-prepared one.
After eight years of the reliable 'good boy next door' mannerisms of George Bushthe gospel according to Obama might be what the
American public require.
You are right, but I-man also has a valid point: how far with the feel good gospel last? I want Obama to win but these elections take place over a period of time . . . long enough for the electorate to wake up from their soundbite-induced slumber to realise Obama may not be the better candidate afterall. However it would be in America's best interest to put a fresh face like Obama in power. It may be the new start she needs to rebuild her image after the post-Bush era. Hillary is simply an extension of this. Hillary may sound like she has better economic policies but don't forget she has had the opportunity to sit in the white house for 8yrs. |
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lai-lai (m)
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he needs to be more aggresive and have a rigid stance on all related subjects, thats the advantage the clintons are using on him now, he also needs to question the clinton campaign mission, i don't mind it gettin dirtier
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otele (m)
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don't under estimate the republican establishment. ho woulda given dumb bush a chance against McCain or Gore.
or against kerry(even with the gulf war going badly)
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kosovo (m)
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if OBAMA comes out as the nominiee then it would be welcom back for another republican.
but trust he wount be the nominee, because democrats wount take that chance
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Horus (m)
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 Lamont Decides To Back Barack ObamaJanuary 11, 2008 Ned Lamont, who remains popular among liberal Netroots activists for challenging US. Sen. Joseph Lieberman over the war in 2006, endorsed Barack Obama for president Thursday.The withdrawal of US. Sen. Christopher J. Dodd from the presidential race last week left Lamont without a candidate just weeks away from the Super Tuesday primaries in Connecticut and 21 other states on Feb. 5. "I don't want to sit it out," Lamont said. Lamont was courted by Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Edwards after winning the Democratic primary in 2006. Clinton met him at her home in Chappaqua, N.Y., and offered consulting help.The courtship resumed last week. But he decided to back Barack Obama, the Democratic winner of the Iowa caucuses and runner-up in the New Hampshire primary."At the end of the day, it just seems to me that Barack Obama is the guy who can energize new voters, build coalitions and be in the position to get real change," Lamont said in a telephone interview.Obama, who accepted the endorsement of the 2004 Democratic nominee for president, Sen. John Kerry, earlier Thursday in South Carolina, praised Lamont in an e-mailed statement."Ned Lamont is a strong progressive leader who understands the power of the grass roots, and I'm proud to have his support," Obama said."Ned and I have both refused to accept money from Washington lobbyists," Obama said, "and we both took a stand against the war in Iraq that never should have been authorized and never should have been waged."But Obama also had strongly urged support of Lieberman during a speech in March 2006 at the Connecticut Democratic Party's annual fundraising dinner."I am absolutely certain Connecticut is going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the US. Senate," said Obama, who was mentored by Lieberman in his first months as a US. senator. Bill Clinton then campaigned for Lieberman in Connecticut, sharing a stage with Lieberman and Dodd. But the political landscape of 2006 is largely unrecognizable today.Lieberman, who won re-election as a petitioning candidate after losing the Democratic primary to Lamont, is backing Republican John McCain for president. By his own admission, no Democrat wants his endorsement for president. And Lamont, ultimately the loser in 2006, is a sought-after campaign surrogate among Democrats opposed to the war. He campaigned for Dodd in Iowa and New Hampshire. He also has worked for Tom Allen, the Democrat trying to unseat Lieberman's Republican ally in Maine, Sen. Susan Collins. One irony in his endorsement of Obama is that the Illinois senator, though objecting to the war and what he says is the erosion of the rule of law under the Bush administration, has common cause with Lieberman in decrying the partisanship of Washington. Senate President Pro Tem Donald E. Williams Jr., D-Brooklyn, endorsed Obama on Monday, but statewide Democratic officeholders and the congressional delegation have yet to publicly pick a candidate since the withdrawal of their favorite son, Dodd. Attorney General Richard Blumenthal has held back, despite attending Yale University law school with Bill and Hillary Clinton. "For me, it is an excruciatingly difficult decision. And I feel very torn. I have a very long-standing and deeply felt relationship to Bill Clinton, going back to our law school days," Blumenthal said. "On the other hand, I feel the genuine excitement and energy and forgive me for using the word hope in Barack Obama's candidacy." The Clinton campaign this week announced a Connecticut steering committee dominated by downstate politicians. The three co-chairmen are Jason Bartlett of Bethel, a state representative; Susan Cocco of Ridgefield, the local town chairwoman; and Adam Wood, the chief of staff for Bridgeport Mayor Bill Finch. Ellen Camhi of Stamford, a Democratic National Committee member, has joined the Clinton campaign, as has Finch. Source: http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-ctendorse0111.artjan11,0,1184508.story |
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McKren (m)
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I saw Hillary Clinton's victory speech in NH
Gosh she is so boring.
If she is lucky to get elected as President, she will never get second term because then America will see what a boring President she will be.
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Bubba
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Barrack is my man right from when he was in the legislature.
i like him on sight.but 2bad there are three things a black man cannot become
1.pope
2.president of america
3.james bond
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Panache (m)
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I saw Hillary Clinton's victory speech in NH
Gosh she is so boring.
If she is lucky to get elected as President, she will never get second term because then America will see what a boring President she will be.
If you think Hillary or any other presidential candidiate's speech is boring, try Geroge W.'s speeches. Bush can't say anything that can be stored in the book of records. |
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McKren (m)
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People think Kerry backing Obama is a slap on John Edwards But some comments by John Edwards show that their might have been a pact between Obama/Edwards. John Edwards did not react to Kerry's action like he was suprised either. Will we see a situation where one (between Obama / Edwards) encourages his supporters to back the other in the later part of the race? ? Too many intrigues in this race |
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bawomol (m)
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abeg Hillary's proposed policies are horrible, settle for another Republican president.
what hillary policies are horrible or is the hate for democrats just boiling. FYI-romney is indeed a flip-flopping republican and once met log-cabin republicans before. you would be an idiot to vote a flip-flopper like romney who uses illegal immigrants to mow his lawn but wants to throw them out. i guess huckabee the religious nut is fiscally sound to u. the welfare system has been trimmed down drastically since the days of the New Deal.
i'm waiting to hear about the horrible hillary policies. she would win the nomination. deal with it.
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Kobojunkie
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abeg Hillary's proposed policies are horrible, settle for another Republican president.
what hillary policies are horrible or is the hate for democrats just boiling. FYI-romney is indeed a flip-flopping republican and once met log-cabin republicans before. you would be an idiot to vote a flip-flopper like romney who uses illegal immigrants to mow his lawn but wants to throw them out. i guess huckabee the religious nut is fiscally sound to u. the welfare system has been trimmed down drastically since the days of the New Deal.
i'm waiting to hear about the horrible hillary policies. she would win the nomination. deal with it.
Do you mind explain what you mean by that statement there in BOld?? |
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That picture was good. A smiling obama up close and personal. Horus,I know you don't believe in God but let God bless you on my behalf for these pics |
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olrotimi (m)
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i jus feel that guy.
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bawomol (m)
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Do you mind explain what you mean by that statement there in BOld??
1. he once made statements referencing to romney's mormon beliefs(not sure what they were)
2. his stance on moral issues seems he is enforcing his religious beliefs on the general population.
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olrotimi (m)
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think moral and ethical issues are jus what the US needs at the moment. he looks strong to the task.
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