Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?

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Eyikojoka (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #288 on: February 14, 2008, 01:25 PM »

I believe God recognizes traditional marriage as a valid union. The reason for white wedding is to undo possible evil covenants unwittingly contracted from the traditional thing of the past and present. These evil, ancestral and idolatrous covenants have proved to have disastrous effects on couples and their offsprings, perpetrating the evil machinations of demons (dieties) to whom our parents or ancestors ignorantly paid allegiance and consecrated themselves and generations unborn. It requires the superior power of the Lord Jesus Christ to change our marital and procrational orientation and foundation in order to produce clean and undefiled offsprings. Sex after traditional marriage can only be called a sin relative to the norms to which the head of the union (the man) yields his allegiance. It cannot be applied as sin for anyone anywhere who has done this.
donnie (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #289 on: February 19, 2008, 06:33 PM »

It is okay when you have not yet been born again with the life of God in you.
That way, it'll only be natural for you to follow the way of the world.

But for a christain to ask such questions as these only shows that he is still a babe and does not yet realize that he has been called out of the world.

The reason we do the traditional marriage is because we cannot totally severe our familly ties. So you do that for them to fulfil the law and custom but you know that the church from which you feed and in to which you have been born and planted by Jesus for whom you live has not yet recognized such a union. As such, you are not married.

There has to be the blessing of the Lord upon that union. So until then, bear in mind that even though you have celebrated the party in the village (because that is what it is. . . the people want to eat and drink), you know the body of christ into which you were born must first recognize and sanction such a union.

Anything outside is disorderliness and God frowns at such.

Tip: you can set you traditional marriage a day or two before your wedding to avoid falling into sin.

But for those of us who are already known as radicals for christ, that is not a problem
Image123 (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #290 on: February 20, 2008, 06:22 AM »

Quote from: daychris on February 13, 2008, 01:15 PM
my opinion is that; if you know you still want to have the church wedding, then forget about sexual enjoyment until then. but if you know you can"t wait till then, forget about church wedding and be content with your traditional wedding, 'because you can"t deceive God.
Please,I want to ask,who joins a couple together at a traditional wedding ceremony?
jookco (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #291 on: February 27, 2008, 05:32 PM »

White wedding is just waste of money, mess the monger mugery pastors
olrotimi (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #292 on: March 02, 2008, 03:32 AM »

@ jookco, agree with you, white wedding is jus to make your pips happy and not look at you with the left eye
~Lady~ (f)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #293 on: March 06, 2008, 06:57 AM »

@donnie

where in the bible does it say that a wedding is when people are joined in a church?
who's to say that the marriage isn't blessed because it took place outside a church?
what if i don't have this is so called "wedding" and instead do my traditional marriage and then invite my pastor? would that mean that my marriage isn't blessed?

donnie (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #294 on: March 11, 2008, 04:25 PM »

I am not about to go into any such carnal arguements. I am speaking by the spirit and they that are of the same Spirit will hear me.

It depends on what type of pastor you have. And is he going to  be in charge of the occassion or he will subject himself to the officiating of the elders, traditional rulers and priests.

My pastor cannot come and sit down in such a gathering or drunkards and witchdoctors, nodding Amen to their prayers and libations while he smiles that the sinning brethren.
nwando
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #295 on: March 12, 2008, 02:55 AM »

Quote from: donnie on March 11, 2008, 04:25 PM
I am not about to go into any such carnal arguements. I am speaking by the spirit and they that are of the same Spirit will hear me.

It depends on what type of pastor you have. And is he going to  be in charge of the occassion or he will subject himself to the officiating of the elders, traditional rulers and priests.

My pastor cannot come and sit down in such a gathering or drunkards and witchdoctors, nodding Amen to their prayers and libations while he smiles that the sinning brethren.

and what makes you think that's what goes on at most traditional weddings?
Or are you speaking from your experience?
In my traditional wedding there were 2 choirs,a band,no alcohol , my  pastor preached and we were blessed.
no libations and definitely no witchdoctor officiating.
I hate it when people make silly generalizations
we went on to have a Church wedding which I know was just a tradition of men.
We were  joined in the eyes of God the day my parents consented to me marrying my husband and accepted their gifts Cool

There is no proof  that a marriage is only legal biblically when conducted within the 4 walls of a Church with a woman wearing a white gown.
There is absolutely no Biblical claim to that.
I dare you to prove it.

A marriage is a physical union between a man and woman and all there needs to be are a few witnesses to that union.
We Christians do it in Church and invite God into that union because we are Christians and want in in charge of all we do but that's not to say that a Christian that chooses to have a minister bless them at the traditional is wrong or not properly married.


Grouppoint (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #296 on: March 13, 2008, 03:32 PM »

@Donnie,
Marriage is a union between Man, woman and God.

Pastors and Church mambers are simply guests. They do not have to be present at this sacred union.
White weddings and Traditional weddings are all traditions of men.
(after all Christ himself turned water to wine at one such events).

By the way, was that a white wedding, or was it a traditional wedding held at Cana?

You speak by the spirit, but you also need to listen to the Spirit.

We cannot simply discard our traditions and blindly embrace the white man's tradition, because he has infused it with Christian notions.

Also, don't forget that their white weddings have gradually removed scriptural references such as 'honour and obey your husband' etc

Again, I say: Marriage is a union between Man, Woman and God.
Everyone else is excess luggage, whether desired or not is another issue.

kola oloye (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #297 on: March 13, 2008, 04:04 PM »

Quote from Grouppoint

Marriage is a union between Man, woman and God.

Pastors and Church mambers are simply guests. They do not have to be present at this sacred union.

Again, I say: Marriage is a union between Man, Woman and God.
Everyone else is excess luggage, whether desired or not is another issue.


HABA! IF YOU ARE NOT A XTIAN NO PROBLEM BUT, IF YOU ARE - THERE IS FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN.
    YOUR RELATIONSHIP NEEDS SOLID FOUNDATION THROUGH A SEASONED MAN OF GOD.
MARRIAGE IS AN INSTITUTION WHEREBY YOU ONLY GRADUATE WHEN YOU END YOUR JOURNEY ON EARTH.
I`m not insisting on the white wedding ceremony because it is not compulsory but the blessing.
Grouppoint (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #298 on: March 13, 2008, 04:48 PM »

@ Kola oloye,


Kindly show me where God insists that my relationship with my wife cannot be recognised and further strengthened unless their is a seasoned man of God involved.

Please don't overrate this 'man of God' notion. Dont you know that you too are a man of God?

The sad thing is that many of our pastors continuously preach to us our rights and our authority that we have through Christ Jesus, yet many of us inssist on holding on to their Pastor's aprons

God says the man is the head of the home, and Christ is the head of the man, I don't see no 'Man of God' in there.

fyi. I am a 'xtian', and there is indeed fire on my mountain, the Holy Spirit fire. Cool
nwando
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #299 on: March 13, 2008, 04:55 PM »

Quote from: kola oloye on March 13, 2008, 04:04 PM
Quote from Grouppoint

Marriage is a union between Man, woman and God.

Pastors and Church mambers are simply guests. They do not have to be present at this sacred union.

Again, I say: Marriage is a union between Man, Woman and God.
Everyone else is excess luggage, whether desired or not is another issue.


HABA! IF YOU ARE NOT A XTIAN NO PROBLEM BUT, IF YOU ARE - THERE IS FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN.
    YOUR RELATIONSHIP NEEDS SOLID FOUNDATION THROUGH A SEASONED MAN OF GOD.MARRIAGE IS AN INSTITUTION WHEREBY YOU ONLY GRADUATE WHEN YOU END YOUR JOURNEY ON EARTH.
I`m not insisting on the white wedding ceremony because it is not compulsory but the blessing.

Ebelebe Igba!!
The man of God has to  be a seasoned one Shocked Shocked Shocked
Oti oooooo
what is the qualification to be seasoned ?
Ojigbijigbi
kola oloye (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #300 on: March 13, 2008, 05:05 PM »

By their FRUIT you shall KNOW them
Grouppoint (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #301 on: March 13, 2008, 07:55 PM »

@KOLA OLOYE

Should you not be the 'Man of God' unto your wife?
donnie (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #302 on: March 13, 2008, 09:48 PM »

My dear there are gifts and there are callings.

You are not called with the same calling as the one who is an apostle, prophet, pastor or teacher so don't decieve yourself.

To attempt to put yourself where you are not called to function is to look for trouble for yourrself.

The things of God are not for fun.
Grouppoint (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #303 on: March 14, 2008, 12:06 PM »

@donnie
sweetheart, I still fail to see what the 5-fold ministry has to do with joining yourself to a woman that God has destined for you.

You assert that it is a calling or function for a Man of God to officiate a wedding. Why don't you show it in Scripture?
Until then, please accept that it is simply oyinbo tradition.

Even the ring that you are made to wear, have you considered the tradition behind this? Before you call our traditional weddings places filled with ritualists and drunkards, you need to also research that traditions that you have accpeted.

Trust me buddy, I am not deceiving myself.

Flowers212
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #304 on: March 14, 2008, 06:57 PM »

No,  Traditional Marriage has nothing to do with the church or Christ. For any pastor to go to a traditonal marraige to bless it is a disgrace. Traditional marraige history is to do with the gods of this and the gods of that before Christianity was introduced to Africa. Therefore, registry, traditional marraiges are not marriages in the eyes of the Lord.

Everyone must go to Chruch in the present of God and his children and be blessed either by a man or woman of God
Grouppoint (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #305 on: March 14, 2008, 07:31 PM »

Quote from: Flowers212 on March 14, 2008, 06:57 PM
No, Traditional Marriage has nothing to do with the church or Christ. For any pastor to go to a traditonal marraige to bless it is a disgrace.
Everyone must go to Chruch in the present of God and his children and be blessed either by a man or woman of God
Please show in your bible where it says everyone must go to Church before they can be married in the eyes of God.
nwando
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #306 on: March 19, 2008, 03:29 AM »

I want to see am too Cool
Grouppoint (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #307 on: March 19, 2008, 12:14 PM »

Well Donnie and Kola Oloye seem to think that the pastor is the one that will consecrate their wedding.
From their knowledge of the word, I would have expected them to be in a position to do the job by themselves.

I love my Pastor, but in my marriage, everyone except God is a guest.
If they can't make it on the wedding day, the show must still go on.
hornyhoney
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #308 on: May 07, 2008, 04:18 PM »

guys,marriage is marriage be it in the church,traditionally,mosque,court etc.it all means the same thing.once u are married u are married.if not what about people who do not wed in church nko,so dey no go do?abeg lets call a spade a spade here.o boy carry go.
atunbi1
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #309 on: July 15, 2008, 03:39 PM »

Sorry I have not really read the replies here, quite a few, but I thot i go straight to the ?.  We had a religion and culture before oyinbo bring christainity ooo.  Court marriages are not done in church or mosque either, So to me traditional marriage is a valid wedding ceremony.  We also know that we all do it before our wedding day anyway.

just my two cents.
KunleOshob (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #310 on: July 15, 2008, 05:36 PM »

Quote from: atunbi1 on July 15, 2008, 03:39 PM
Sorry I have not really read the replies here, quite a few, but I thot i go straight to the ?. We had a religion and culture before oyinbo bring christainity ooo. Court marriages are not done in church or mosque either, So to me traditional marriage is a valid wedding ceremony. We also know that we all do it before our wedding day anyway.

just my two cents.

Bulls eye people have been so mis-led by pastors who keeping preaching their opinions and biases as if it is the word of God, there is no were in the bible that even remotely suggests that you must marry in the church, even the marriage at canaan that Jesus blessed was not in the church. People are really perishing for lack of Knowledge. Traditional marriages and court weddings are valid in the sight of God.
A_K_O (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #311 on: July 15, 2008, 06:13 PM »

Quote from: KunleOshob on July 15, 2008, 05:36 PM
Traditional marriages and court weddings are valid in the sight of God.

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Quote from: Grouppoint on March 14, 2008, 07:31 PM
Please show in your bible where it says everyone must go to Church before they can be married in the eyes of God.

Where in the bible does it show otherwise?
KunleOshob (m)
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #312 on: July 16, 2008, 11:25 AM »

Quote from: A_K_O on July 15, 2008, 06:13 PM
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Where in the bible does it show otherwise?
Abeg stop answering questions with questions if you don't have a reasonable answer or bible passage to support your stand, it is better you keep quiet and stop confusing issues. There Is no biblical injuction thatyou must marry in the church CAPISH!!!!
kadijen
Re: Lovemaking After Traditional Wedding Only: Is This Fornication?
« #313 on: July 16, 2008, 11:51 AM »

to me i see it as fornication,better  done only after d white wedding  Smiley
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