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shahan (f)
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@gbade. x, Brotherly. . . Lol. I just dey. Been busy the past few weeks - from holiday to school. Fortunately, acada outside Naija is not as stressful (unless you be lawyer like my sista!)  Sunday has been beautiful so far - I'm going back in the p.m. for another service to honour a friend's invitation at theirs. And you?? Jesus can't be the Redeemer and The Condemner at the same time. I'll have to agree with you; although I agree as well with the persuasion of Backslider in the sense that the UNrepentant stands condemned, and not the repentant/penitent. It's hard for people to make the distinction between Jesus as the Saviour NOW and as the Judge in the FUTURE. I'm still learning and growing; but I'm presently persuaded that the judgement is yet future as in I Cor. 4:5 ~ " Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God." The UNrepentant do not stand condemned before God IMMEDIATELY after commiting a sin (except the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost). If that were the case, perhaps the one we know as the apostle Paul would have long been smoked out the first time he rejected Jesus as the Messiah and consequently sought to persecute the Church. He confessed that, " Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief" ( I Tim. 1:15). Did the Lord Jesus condemn Paul as the chief sinner? I'm rather persuaded otherwise. Instead, Paul was to rejoice in the very next verse by saying: " Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on Him to life everlasting." (verse 16) May we have the grace to see and apply this pattern of the redeeming love of Jesus Christ to those He seeks to save rather than condemn. |
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gbade. x (m)
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Amen to that sista! True story! Sunday's all good. School's still Sept. (some crap-ass calendar shuffling they are doing). Just lazying @ home, watching cartoons, gaming hard and emm. . .watching Teletubbies |
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Backslider (m)
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@GBADEX MY BELOVED BROTHER
I AM NOT TAKEN BY HARDS WORDS.
TO YOUR QUESTION THE REDEEMER IS JUST AND HE WILL NOT REDEEM ONE THAT IS NOT WILLING. IF THE REDEEMER FORCEFULLY TAKES THE SLAVE OF SIN. THE REDEEMER IS NOT RIGHTEOUS THEN.
THE REDEEMER HAS CONDEMNED THE SINNER BY LEAVING THE SINNER AS A SLAVE TO SIN. PERIOD
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT CHRIST IS THE SAVIOUR DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE ALL SAVED. SO LEAVE BABS787 OUT OF THIS BABS COULD REPENT TOMORROW AND BE BORN AGAIN ON HIS WAY TO HEAVEN. THAT IS WHY I WILL NEVER BE A STUMBLING BLOCK TO ANYONE IN DEEDS OR WORDS.
THE REDEEMER IS THE CONDEMNER BECAUSE WHO ELSE WILL REDEEM?
JESUS CONDEMNS SIN AND SINNERS
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shahan (f)
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Sunday's all good. School's still Sept. (some crap-ass calendar shuffling they are doing). Just lazying @ home, watching cartoons, gaming hard and emm. . .watching Teletubbies Lol. . . you have revealed my secret - agbaya like me loves to watch cartoons and play video games as well. . . and we thought they were made just for "kids!" Enjoy o jare! JESUS CONDEMNS SIN AND SINNERS Okay brotherly. . . we appreciate your persuasions on this matter. Love of Christ be with you without condemnation! |
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Backslider (m)
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Amen Thank You
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lysaa (f)
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I don't understand u bro backslider. Jesus is the Redeemer, the one that came to pay for our sins with his precious blood, taking up on himself our sinful nature and init judged and condemned sin itself.
2 Corinthians 5:21 (King James Version)
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Romans 8:3 (King James Version)
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Now that is not to say we still don't have sinners in the world today but . .
2 Peter 3:9 (King James Version)
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
The grace of God is available and his mercies never run dry but are new every morning. If man were God, surely we would have been condemned long ago. But because of God's love, he sent his son to the world to pay this debt of sin that brings condemnation.
Romans 5:8 (King James Version)
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Man was made in the image and likeness of God before sin came and seperated man from God. This however, did not make man valueless before Him( u could squeeze and dirty a bill of naira or your cedi, it would only look dirty and unacceptible sometimes but the value still remains the same with a mint of same bill). Our lord Jesus said. .
Matthew 13:44 (King James Version)
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
Christ did not die for christians for christianity is the product/fruit of redemption. He died for the WORLD. The Field in the ref above denotes the world, and the treasure;the people init. God seeks to save and not to condemn. He is wisdom, he can't save us to condemn us. its sin that brings condemnation on a man that is its servant AKA sinner- The one that is not yet saved.
God is love, love doesn't condemn but seeks to make right.
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babyosisi (f)
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It feels good to read from y'all without the "fightings"
For they'll know we are Christians by our love.
The Bible is indeed a 2 edged sword,that's why different people can preach the same message from different perspectives and yet achieve the same result.
There's time for the sweet "Jesus love you and bids you come gospel" and there's also time for "He is a consuming fire gospel" and they are both right,they both have their purposes and I'm sure souls have been saved hearing those 2 sides.
Always remember brethren that we ought to correct one another in love.
We are all at different levels of growth.Some of us are still drinking milk and attempting mashed potatos while others are already swallowing fufu and chewing uncooked stockfish.
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gbade. x (m)
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uncooked stockfish? Lol, i thought it was more like Eran igbe a.k.a Panadol ! Frag it, makes me hungry, probably will go eat 2 plates o' beans or something @ shahan : lol, so what games do you play? Heck, was just done watching Ben10 on Cartoon Network (right after my cuzz came breathing down on ma neck about all this "goo-goo ga-ga BS"). Me i know i can't stop 'em. . . . .will probably be whooping my grandson's ass on Tekken in the future!! |
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gbade. x (m)
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uncooked stockfish? Lol, i thought it was more like Eran igbe a.k.a Panadol ! Frag it, makes me hungry, probably will go eat 2 plates o' beans or something @ shahan : lol, so what games do you play? Heck, was just done watching Ben10 on Cartoon Network (right after my cuzz came breathing down on ma neck about all this "goo-goo ga-ga BS"). Me i know i can't stop 'em. . . . .will probably be whooping my grandson's ass on Tekken in the future!! |
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lysaa (f)
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U guys a re funny o. cartoons and video games and @ gbade.x, tekken ?? U like that game? lol. have u ever played south park- chef's love shack? I like it because it kind of updates. I don't like the fighting ones because i'm always beaten by my brothers but i remember i was once a don in mortal combat  lol. @ all Is there any game about scriptures or any related yet? I'd love it. or should we request for the production of one  ? it like could work. |
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gbade. x (m)
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Lol. . . . Games pertaining to Scripture? I dunno about those though, but there should be something of that kind on the net. . . Though i do know about Christian Games. If you are familiar with Tim LaHey's "Left Behind series", there's a game of it, though i haven't played it. I think there's a trial/demo version at www.jc-tv.org. |
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shahan (f)
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@gbade. x, Na wah for you sef!!  See how you reveal the very games I play!! When I'm beaten by my bro or sis, I sulk and switch over to Yahoo games (love ZUMA)! @lysaa, Well, I don't know of Scripture games as of now, but I heard a few guys are considering it with loads of innovations and animations as yet. When I come across the reference again, I'll update you. Cheers. |
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gbade. x (m)
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@ shahan:
lol, gbade can't help it. . . .use to visit Yahoo Pool frequently some years back. And if i ain't gaming, i'm gunning like my fellow gunners, though Arsenal's been fulla crap this season. . . .
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mrpataki (m)
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@ Shahan,
So you play Zuma? Wow, spent my final years in school playing that game at home, that I almost forgot I had a final paper to write the following day!
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mrpataki (m)
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@ gbade,
Feel really pissed with those suckers! Eneways we shall rise up again!
GUNNERS FOR LIFE!!!!!!!
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mukina2 (f)
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@ gbade,
Feel really pissed with those suckers! Eneways we shall rise up again!
GUNNERS FOR LIFE!!!!!!!
no you are not a gunner not you  we do not need you  |
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buluti (m)
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At last peace on this thread,
babyosisi, bless you for playing the role of peacemaker,
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lysaa (f)
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@ shan, gbade.x thanks. So gunners have found their way to this thread? Abeg o. I'm a blue rep, beware.  |
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shahan (f)
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@mrpataki, No vex - I was going to reply to yours but was running late for a p.m. Bible Study. Yes, I love ZUMA, but I'm afraid some of 'em Yahoo games could be so addictive - and shahan no dey hear word when she sits to play!! @lysaa, Dem like or not, we go smoke all 'em GUNNERS with our special-make double barrel! No kidding. . . I go start the shooting first; and if you no hear anoda 'gbosa', no wait to find out wetin follow - you hear?? |
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goodguy (m)
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Wetin be Zuma? Abeg make all of una dey play beta game like Yahoo! Pool. Now, that's what I call . . A GAME. |
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lysaa (f)
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@ shahan Are u for the Blues? Just saw your reply on the other side, hope to meet u morrow, until then. . KEEP LIVING IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF MIRACLES |
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shahan (f)
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@lysaa, @ shahan Are u for the Blues? Just saw your reply on the other side, hope to meet u morrow, until then. . KEEP LIVING IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF MIRACLES This love-tango we recently developed between us will last! I really was for hooting Arsenal. . . but em. . .until recently. Where you go, shahan will follow - BLUES! until they mess up again! |
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gbade. x (m)
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RRAARGGGGH!! *ROARS wildly* . That's it! Where ma gunners at?!! To the Assylum with them Blue boys and that mofo Mourinho! Popsie won lo ma run down! Gunners stand up! *sees Adebayor on the screen and proceeds to administer 12 lashes of the koboko for some really crap-ass lacklustre game this season* |
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homel (m)
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The importance of Good Friday
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bongs (m)
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Anybody I could chat with about pastor Chris?
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TV01 (m)
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Anybody I could chat with about pastor Chris? I would suggest the man himself. Just like any one wanting to know God would ggo to God, wouldn't they? I would further suggest you discuss ideas, doctrine, concepts and the like, but not people. At least not more than incidentally. You'll find lots of knowledgeablwe people here on NL (religion) who are willing to share with you. God bless |
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cobbyce
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pastor chris is a man of GOD, IF YOU THINK I
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etauso (m)
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Seun, your link to Pastor Chris Interview does not work. However, you guys should stop criticizing God's anointed. For God gave the attributes of those who truly come in his name to preach and cast out demons, and Pastor Chris possesses all that. STOP BEING CRITICS. I have learnt alot from him and my life has changed since I started attending Christ Embassy. God bless you ignorant critics.
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babyosisi (f)
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Seun, your link to Pastor Chris Interview does not work. However, you guys should stop criticizing God's anointed. For God gave the attributes of those who truly come in his name to preach and cast out demons, and Pastor Chris possesses all that. STOP BEING CRITICS. I have learnt alot from him and my life has changed since I started attending Christ Embassy. God bless you ignorant critics.
Bia mr christs embassy,this thread was already dead. Your pastor Chris is just a man,flesh and blood,falls and rises like any other Christian,don't make him what he's not. I hate hero worship in Christiandom,it is so unbiblical |
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davidylan (m)
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Seun, your link to Pastor Chris Interview does not work. However, you guys should stop criticizing God's anointed. For God gave the attributes of those who truly come in his name to preach and cast out demons, and Pastor Chris possesses all that. STOP BEING CRITICS. I have learnt alot from him and my life has changed since I started attending Christ Embassy. God bless you ignorant critics.
In the bible, lives changed when they came across the power of God, today lives change when we start attending a certain church. One wonders what christianity has become. cult worship? |
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