Php Vs Jsp

Hello guys, I want you to air your views,
There is this ongoing debate on which is better PHP or JSP

This is my view
I believe in PHP, it is easy to learn and they say "easy is better"

I started with ASP but later found out about PHP so i started using both. With time, i realized ASP is not really my calling.

 PHP is fun and i tell you, I haven't seen what you can do with perl, jsp, asp etc that you can't do with PHP.

Above all, PHP is many times faster than jsp. (don't ask me why, google it)
building a web application in JSP is like killing a housefly with a Bazooka


one thing i admire about php is the ease with which i was able to connect to my yahoomail from my website with 10 lines of codes and make it available to my mobile
(since yahoo wap access is not working, i just logon to that page of my website)

I have a java guy and he admits that in regards to pure development time, PHP wins every time.
Java is too big. By the time you factor in all the imports and jar file calls, your code bloats so big that accomplishing the same task in PHP yields smaller (faster) code.

so tell me

Why knock your head over a wall erected by someone's laziness when there is a wall that someone else took the stress to put a door into?

PHP is also easier to work with. It's not that I dislike Java. It's that Java is not the end-all tool for web development---no tool is.

You use the tool that fits right for the task at hand. For my purposes, small and lean apps, I prefer PHP, an easy to use scripting language that is flexible, well supported and well documented.

the good news is that hosting your php files is cheaper with all hosting companies.

so what do you think.

Littered because its my view



where is your research, i made mine and aired it



I like that, you used the word "I" because thats your view

when talking of desktop apps you can say java is richer, better, this and that than PHP-GTK
but when it comes to web. I tell you, JSP is not the answer. thats what i mean by "you use the tool that fits right for the task at hand."



i am sure you haven't used ur Google(TM)

 

I am enjoying the dialogue.
More,

@web_master

Yea i can see that you used "I", which i expect others to use also.

There is no need to debate on PHP vs JSP. Sun Micro even knows that PHP is better and thats why there is currently a beef. People that won't agreed to this are those who know the native side of PHP and not the OOP part. Class and function declaration as of PHP 5 , and the intro of interface implementation and other, make id spec. So forget it.

PHP for web app #1
JSP for web app #2

Java for standalone #1
PHP-GTK for standalone #2

I actually hate it when people say one language is better than the other. When i started out about 10 years ago with visual basic 6.0, many of my friends went for visual c++ 6.0 and said vc++ was more powerful, but with vb 6.0 then i was able to builder very nice and fairly portable desktop application, later i learnt vc++, i find it more powerful than vb 6.0, but most of the desktop applications i design are still faster and easier with vb, so i use the best for the task at hand, like my2cents said.
As per web programming, i use perl,asp,php and asp.NET, but out of all i find php fastest to use, but i realize that instances come when you maky find that the best option may be jsp, or asp or asp.NET. Possible your client may be using a windows server wich only support asp,
I believe you should be able to handle the task at hand with the best option at hand depending on requirements.
But if i were to choose my most favorite language out of all the server-sided languages, i would say php, because i have worked with php for several years and have a huge php archive that solves most of my everyday needs on websites. I even developed a mail server something like www.37.com way back with php [took me a month], and that increased my respect for php.

You hardly fine a server that doesn't support PHP and Windows has always been in support of PHP. As of CF7, you can run CF on linux with some complex configuration. But with simple steps(thanks to open source) you will install PHP on any system easily, even linux servers.

 It's always funny to me when I see people saying PHP coding is easy. Anyway, it is cause it has the native part unlike most prog. langs and maybe those who say that needs to work in a group environment where by you will have to use OOP and some rules will be implemented.

Ruby is coming fine with OOP from scratch and I love it as Ajax is been embedded in it. There are lots of web programming that are good also. Mainly, you have to put your webserver into consideration. I mean Apache, IIS and lot more

Hardly, what if your client purchased that hard to find one



Please let us know, are you saying it is hard (i just want to be sure i finally found someone who said so)? I have worked using the object oriented programming feature of PHP and i still find it easy, easy because i know it.

I figured something out with my experience working in a group environment, anything you know becomes easy to you and hard to others



In that case, i will recommend what ITBeings said

if it is true