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joshjosh (m)
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i pity the people that call you friends or family member. you are such a cold blooded person it is unbelievable. i have been waiting for you to show sympathy for the dead but you are still justifying it. i grew up in places where banks were inside universities in Nigeria serving not just the university community but the people that work in the surrounding areas. that is almost 30 years in Nigeria and you are complaining of a bank being in canaanland. i hate to say this. you are evil. your bible must be the same the ogboni's carry. don't tell me you are a Jehovah's witness or olumba olumba because even they know better to have human sympathy. your slow poison religion is vile and obscene. Please sir read your bible again. Joseph did not save his people with money . . . the Jews had money (they were buying grain from Egypt!) . . . he saved His people because God gave him the divine wisdom to store grain during the 7yrs of famine. you mean the Jews bought from Egypt and took their money back again? you are so religious you forget common sense. we had a shop when i was young. everyone that patronized us made us richer. you save by influence and the favour on you. paul saved onisemus too by his influence. stop thinking you have a monopoly on understanding the bible. what kind of evil church brought you up to see every other church as doing wrong? i know too much to be deceived by people like you. you have a very poor mind. that is why i never ever read your religious rantings without LOVE. again i will say this to you. you are very divisive person that is a trait of the religious mind. get the mind of Christ. the mind that loves and teach people to love the brethren. that is the mark of love for Christ. you cannot love Christ and hate his church like you do because they are not poor like you. like i said do a thanksgiving in your church tomorrow. i see you also hate the word of faith movement too. if you check those 3 words you will see how silly you are. i don't have your time so i am going to leave you and your slow poison. i can't see why you people destroy that lovely country with your silly religion. enjoy your dirty poor mind because it will not carry you too long |
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4Him (m)
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joshjosh . . . it is easy to see those who are easily led by religious sentiments . . . they don't bother to use the scriptures to defend their position. Keep cursing me sir. you mean the Jews bought from Egypt and took their money back again? you are so religious you forget common sense. we had a shop when i was young. everyone that patronized us made us richer.
The jews had their money returned back as a ploy and NOT because they had no more money to buy more grain. Again please read your bible. Your shop has no relevance to this topic. you save by influence and the favour on you. paul saved onisemus too by his influence. stop thinking you have a monopoly on understanding the bible. what kind of evil church brought you up to see every other church as doing wrong?
Paul saved not by influence sir but by the grace of God on His life. The very grace that almost turned Felix to believe his words . . . today how many of our church leaders will be bold enough to tell our political leaders the truth? None! The "evil church" that brought me up taught me to be like the Berean christians who did not just swallow every extra-bibilical truth hook, line and sinker. i know too much to be deceived by people like you. you have a very poor mind. that is why i never ever read your religious rantings without LOVE.
no problem sir. One thing i notice sir, for those who are truly bereft of spiritual understanding . . . they quickly shift from reasoning through the scriptures to personal attacks. Keep it up. |
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joshjosh (m)
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if you check my posts you will see i don't attack nobody. i find it offensive that you can quote the bible to defend killing 8 people because the church is evil and not berean like yours.
what church do you attend as a matter of interest?
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4Him (m)
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if you check my posts you will see i don't attack nobody. i find it offensive that you can quote the bible to defend killing 8 people because the church is evil and not berean like yours.
what church do you attend as a matter of interest?
go through my posts and please show me where i explicitly or implicitly defending the killing of 8 people. My church is not urs to know. thank you. |
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joshjosh (m)
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brother wonderful, you are not proud of that lovely church that teach you to hate WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT.
you are a wonderful person. enjoy your thanksgiving tomorrow
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ono (m)
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Except that bank is a separate entity, as distinct from the church, one can safely conclude then, that the robbers went to raid a bank very close to Winner's Chapel Hq. And nothing more than that. Someone should correct me if I'm wrong.
I just want to believe that the bank wasn't a part of the church.
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joshjosh (m)
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that is what every sensible person knows but when you get lawless people like this saying 4Him that is what you get when "churches" end up as business empires - - the den of thieves. then you begin to know why we have such a beautiful country |
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4Him (m)
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brother wonderful, you are not proud of that lovely church that teach you to hate WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT.
you are a wonderful person. enjoy your thanksgiving tomorrow
sigh . . . everytime you try to engage a member of the word of faith movement in a meaningful discourse they just have to get sentimental and resort to curses. Except that bank is a separate entity, as distinct from the church, one can safely conclude then, that the robbers went to raid a bank very close to Winner's Chapel Hq. And nothing more than that. Someone should correct me if I'm wrong.
I just want to believe that the bank wasn't a part of the church.
Ono perhaps you are right but i want to believe that the bank is a part of Winners chapel. I do not support the robbery attack and condolences to the families of the victims. |
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ken82 (m)
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vengeance is of the lord
lets leave the battle for him
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egoldman (m)
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I think both sides have right and wrong points , there is need for some balances . There are some excesses with the " Children of God should be rich syndrome " and also we can't just be destitute because we want to appear as being humble Christians .
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bastrin
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hi everyone,
the real people that are going to suffer this are the banks, because the church was not robbed. And I don't believe that the Bishop will tell the bank to forget about the money because robbers took it. therefore the real victims in this case is the bank and not the church so you people shoould stop this pro and anti Bishop fight. and think of the security problem because I think that is the only thing that is going to concern the church in this case as for the monitory lose it is the Bank that will suffer it. I pray God to give upple the understsnding to understand this.
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dee02 (m)
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armed robbers no dey fear at all sef?
thunder fire them, robbers would never know peace in this world
can i hear u all say amen?!
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janami (f)
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The last time smtg like this happened in canaanland, the thieves did not go scotfree. i dnt think they will do thesame this time. They are trying God. I notice that anytime papa curses, e dey always catch the person. I dey await results o. But before the curse catch them, mk them parade them well well. Except they become repentant sha.
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A_K_O (m)
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Ma sympathy to the loved ones of the deceased,
Roberry is roberry, Cannanland or Allen Avenue,
I find the poll absolutely nonesensical, I repeat absolutely nonsensical, Why would you justify or support armed robbers? From a christian perspective, there is no excuse for sin; poverty is not an excuse to go and forcefully acquire another man's harvest,
The poll result speaks for itself.
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janami (f)
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josh josh. i applaud everything u have said  . u have taken the words out of my mouth. it smtimes tires me to see some ignorant people just yapping . i am a covenant university graduate and i know how badly the community needs banks. but some people who claim to be grads are saying that we don't need banks in the school environs. i dnt even think they have been to any tertiary institution yet. which institution doesnt have a bank? |
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joshjosh (m)
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@dee02 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmen.
i am not for any bishop. i don't know the man and don't attend his church. i never knew a Nigerian let alone see a sanctimonious holier than thou Christians rejoice over the death of 8 innocent souls in their enemies church premises.
since when did Nigeria start killing people for being WORD OF FAITH people?
i can understand 4HIM who is against His people technically hating prospering Christians but coming here rejoicing a bank in a church premises was robbed is obscene.
i have personally been inside a bank during a bank robbery and know how terrifying it is. a bank manager friend was killed during a bank robbery for not giving out strongroom keys. his wife and kids are still in pains years later and some mis-guided hater is here gloating about banks in church premises.
where will it end. next there should be no bank in universities because the school kids have too much money?
thieves are evil and must never be excused especially when they have gone and killed law officers.
you are permitted to hate it is your body that you are making vulnerable to diseases and sickness
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Pianist
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Josh josh or Josh Tosh, That sounds familiar. Regards to Sister B
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4Him (m)
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i can understand 4HIM who is against His people technically hating prospering Christians but coming here rejoicing a bank in a church premises was robbed is obscene.
You have a serious problem with the truth. Where did i rejoice that a bank was robbed?  The last time smtg like this happened in canaanland, the thieves did not go scotfree. i dnt think they will do thesame this time. They are trying God. I notice that anytime papa curses, e dey always catch the person. I dey await results o. But before the curse catch them, mk them parade them well well. Except they become repentant sha.
Yet more extra-biblical nonsense . . . because robbers robbed a bank within Canaanland premises they are "trying God"? Please show me such in your bible. Papa curses? Where in the bible are we told to curse our enemies? |
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joshjosh (m)
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since you asked this was your very first post and i wont bother going into the other rubbish you posted. 4Him Re: Robbers Invade Canaanland « #9 on: February 01, 2008, 10:17 PM »
that is what you get when "churches" end up as business empires - - the den of thieves. did you remember typing that or you were too busy rejoicing? @ pianist what is familiar and who is your sister B? |
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Kogilomo (m)
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It is important to point out that the money in the banks within the premises belong to students, workers (lectures, secondary and primary school teachers, artisans and labourers working at different projects within canaanland), the winners chapel, and Ota residents, etc. So the banks within canaanland (Oceanic Bank, etc) are like any other bank branch n Nigeria with the only exception that they are allowed to open their branches within canaanland premises.
It is therefore important to look at this as another bank robbery which is actually a nightmare for the families of the victims and bank workers. This act MUST be condemned by ALL no matter your religious inclination or belief.
To the other point of argument led by 4Him & Co. There will always be areas of disagreement and division in the Church of Jesus. For example, there are those that belief in divine healing and those that say that the time of divine healing is past, some believe in Holy Ghost baptism with the evidence of speaking in tongues while some do not, etc. In my opinion, this disagreement will continue until Jesus come and therefore, am not overly worried abut them.
I will only begin to get worried if I see a believer (i.e somebody who is Born Again) arguing that Jesus is not the Saviour and Redeemer or there is another way of salvation outside of Christ and some of these basic Christian doctrines.
In closing, I will to ask the following questions:
1. Is it wrong for a church to establish schools?
2. Is it wrong for a church to establish hospitals?
3. Is it wrong for banks to establish branches within the compound of the church if they so desire?
4. Is it wrong for a church to have internet address and broadcast their messages on the internet?
5. Is it wrong for the church to have buses to transport members to & from church? I know winners chapel have over 200 buses for transporting members to church free of charge. It is also on record that they give scholarships to any students each year).
I have been a victim of armed robbery and it was not a funny incident and I don’t wish for anybody to witness it. May God help our Nigeria.
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4Him (m)
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since you asked this was your very first post and i wont bother going into the other rubbish you posted.
did you remember typing that or you were too busy rejoicing?
is that what you erroneously assumed to be "rejoicing"? You typify the average blind member of the WOFM, they pretend outwardly to be "godly", inside they are spiritually empty . . . they practice religion but are nothing but whitened sepulchres (remember the pharisees) . . . they twist the scriptures to read "blessings" (see covetuousness) even when it is not saying so . . . they curse you when you point out their extra-biblical twaddle . . . their religious leaders are demigods to them who can never be challenged . . . NEVER will you see them address christian issues by opening their bibles. Sentiment is their guide, money is their god. To kogilomo's questions: In closing, I will to ask the following questions:
1. Is it wrong for a church to establish schools?
2. Is it wrong for a church to establish hospitals?
3. Is it wrong for banks to establish branches within the compound of the church if they so desire?
4. Is it wrong for a church to have internet address and broadcast their messages on the internet?
5. Is it wrong for the church to have buses to transport members to & from church? I know winners chapel have over 200 buses for transporting members to church free of charge. It is also on record that they give scholarships to any students each year).
1. Yes especially when it is established with church funds but caters only to the rich. 2. Yes . . . again read my reply to question 1. The essence of the church is to preach the gospel not to "provide services to the community" which is essentially a smokescreen for using it as a business empire. 3. Not really . . . the banks see the church as a business center anyway. 4. Definitely not. 5. No. |
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joshjosh (m)
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4 or shall we say against Him probably was born at st. mary's hospital and thereafter went to st. james school or maybe that should be st. judas.
the bobo is unbelievable. i definately think he is either ogboni's local secretary or jehovah witness or olumba people. he is not saying
@AGAINST HIM i wont bother with you again. you have blue blood running in your veins.
you heard that song
Jesus is calling you o sinner
o sinner come
Jesus is calling you o sinner
O sinner come.
all mankind are sinners. it doesn't matter what lenght of trouser you wear or how much you love poverty.
stop your hating and using bible to justify your hate. there must be a spot in satan's hell you are trying to reserve for yourself with your vernom and hatred.
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4Him (m)
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stop your hating and using bible to justify your hate. there must be a spot in satan's hell you are trying to reserve for yourself with your vernom and hatred.
if only you could use the bible to justify your own bleeding obvious hate and curses.  |
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joshjosh (m)
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this is my last post to a restless sinner like you. you are a very divisive person . you must be a very difficult person to live with. stop thinking you and your sect are the only righteous christian in nigeria. look what a muslim said about you somewhere else. @4Him: David, you are all over the map! You never stop! Do you bit for christianity, get a legitimate yam to chop, raw, boiled, fried or roasted! Just do it, before you burst a tube. you have the ugly worm of religious spirits running all over your body i don't have your time. i am out of here now i will be back next weekend to see your latest rantings. by the way is it not your duty to be out there selling watchtower and awake now or whatever ? what are you doing on the net. i saw you allowed your WOFM to use the internet because even uncle NAZI david is using it to tormet WOFM people online. satan just approved your visa to his abode. you will be one zealous usher there. watch out for david oyedepo if you see his shadow there. i will start looking out for your word of faith people. never heard that one before. |
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ifyalways (f)
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Ma sympathy to the loved ones of the deceased,
Roberry is roberry, Cannanland or Allen Avenue,
I find the poll absolutely nonesensical, I repeat absolutely nonsensical, Why would you justify or support armed robbers? From a christian perspective, there is no excuse for sin; poverty is not an excuse to go and forcefully acquire another man's harvest,
The poll result speaks for itself.
word ! |
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4Him (m)
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watch out for david oyedepo if you see his shadow there.
David Oyedepo is but a man . . . why shld i be afraid of a man? Typical WOFM extr-biblica twaddle. Joshjosh . . .even a sinner does not curse as much as you do. You must have so much hate stored up inside you.  Seek help while you can bro. |
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KollyJay
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This is serious my brother, 4Him or against them or what the hell you call yourself, I think some armed robbers re already posting on nairaland o, And uncle seun shld alert the police of the IP address, who knows if they can be caught, LOL,  If any of the victims were to be your relative, I know u wont ever ever talk this way, JoshJosh, Please keep going, I think its high time we put sanity into some empty heads that aruge here unnecessarily on this our great naija number 1 forum, Arguments shld be based on good points, not just aruguing for the sake of it. |
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4Him (m)
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kollyjay, calm down and read before talking.
I will repeat for the 100th time . . . i do not support armed robbery, it is wrong! My bone of contention had NOTHING to do with the robbery if you people bothered to read at all . . . but more to do with the WOFM.
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KollyJay
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4Him,
You know wot? each time you come up here and declare you don't support the robbers, it makes me think does this guy know wot he's saying @ all?
You claim not, but u re acutally and vividly opposining the cannaland instead of the robbers, Any way, Uncle seun, I still need the IP address o, You knows,
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4Him (m)
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4Him,
You know wot? each time you come up here and declare you don't support the robbers, it makes me think does this guy know wot he's saying @ all?
You claim not, but u re acutally and vividly opposining the cannaland instead of the robbers, Any way, Uncle seun, I still need the IP address o, You knows,
I'm not surprised you think so. So to oppose Canaanland (as a contradiction of biblical principles) is to support the robbers? Are you thinking upside down? Orchestrating an armed robbery from half way around the world must be a monumental feat don't u think so?  |
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KollyJay
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Hi guys here, Am not really surprise, Someone actually pointed to the the way this guy was speaking against RCCG in another thread, so We can easily conclude kind of man he is. Anyway, Against Him or so, may I ask? how was the thanksgiving service? Hope the choir rendered a danceable song and u really displayed your dancing skills because your fellow man was killed. Anyway, JoshJosh and other good people that oppose robbery, I think it will be baseless to continue with this thread since the man has actually determined to be against people of God and their church. But there is still a good question to ask him, Whatz the name of your church Sir? I think, we from naira land can recommend a better school of disciple for your pastor, so that he can teach you the truth and how not to turn the bible upside down. Lastly, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. 3John vs 2. My brother, read your bible well well ooo, God help us 4 naija, |
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