Roots of [Violent] Cultism in Higher Institutions in Nigeria

Well, I schooled in Uniben, and i dare say: the way the so called "frat men" comported themselves back in school, was anything but decent,

Students were murdered, Lives were lost, people were expelled, residences were burnt, all sorts of havoc, . And any time the rival cults are going to 'war' students can not leave their houses, so as not to be hit by stray bullets etc etc,

I really do not think we shld encourage cultism in any way, the history of cultism is the least of our problems, eradicaticating cultism should be the focus here,

Cultism! This is a topic I will like to contribute. There is nothing good in it. It's very funny because when I was in school, You.I, a lot of guys thought I was in one cult or the other. If you find out, most of this guys end up going into crime after school; I know a lot of them and have had imbroglio with them. It's not only in Nigeria we have cults though. In the US, there is Skulls n Bones which practically every politician is a member. Check: http:///library/conspiracy/skull-and-bones/ But in Nigeria cults are just breeding grounds for criminals. It's nothing more than that. Talking of Buccaneers, they're bunch of criminals. When I was in school, one of them was arrested for stealing a car.

I agree with Dr. Jolly, you can't blame Wole Soyinka. When they set up Pirates, their goals were different from what the hooligans we have in our higher Institutions are up to these days.

"Wole started it as a young man. What surprises me is that as he approaches his dotage, he still dances rubbish music and drink blood with children in the bush. And when you ask them, they are quick to tell you that bank managers, VC's and other professionals are represented in their work of cultism."

One of the benefits that a person derives from having attended a higher learning center is that you just don't digest what you are fed without analysing and asking questions. A very common bogeyman allegation against frat members by the ignorant, is that they drink blood. Only a nincompoop can believe such a myth without asking the question, whose blood have frat members been drinking or which blood bank are they storing the blood they have been drinking for years. I am sure that the various General hospitals will want to know this very important piece of information. if you are to ask the author of the rubbish above where he got his information from, he or she will most likely reply i know a friend who knows a friend of a friend who drinks blood. Probe further and you will find that his GPA in school was so low that a critical reply as I am attempting here will be unnecessary.

However it is neccessary if only to show the level of deep ignorance of spectators to the current rot within schools. Not all campus related violence is frat related as not all frat members are frat members. A great deal are wannabes or pretenders. some are civilians without morals and with violent anti social tendencies brought from home, to coin the phrase for this discourse.

Having said that, much of the violence can be attributed to the king kong attitude of the initiated and the kind of grooming recieved. So, you will find a person who succumbs to the peer pressure of, "my privates is bigger than yours" and I have to show it if i am a made man or else i have disgraced my frat.

The fools who fall into this category are then shell shocked when they become graduates and find that hitting the managing director of the company they work at because of slow promotion prospects, is not a marketable item on a CV. Nor is organising a hit on a Igbo father in-law to be, for putting a high dowry price is not the surest way to marry a good wife.
Let me also address the holier than thou claim by most Graduate sections of MOST FRATS.

 The claim by a lot of them that they left campuses in the year of our lord something something is a partial truth and hence all frats then become guilty of making the problem worse out of a fear of being identified with the level of violence witnessed. They claim that there are no student members in univerities, and if there are, they are under the strict supervision of graduate members is false because those undergraduate members are not really supervised and they in turn claim autonomy by initiating "members" to make money and boost numerical strength. The practice of their parent bodies is to adopt a "if you are caught approach" or denial if something goes wrong" this approch has not helped. If frats want to leave campuses, there cannot be any half measure, it must either be fully done or not at all. Why initiate agriculture, homosapiens, lubbers and the rest from an undergraduate pool and then deny responsibility for the actions of the initiated under the false premise of they were non-autonomous members. That is logic standing on it's head.

Finally before i have a conversation with my feet, it is the height of immaturity, self-delusion and pervasive ignorance the common attitudes of  "my frat is beta than yours, we have the best brains, we get the best chiks, drive the best cars or have the deadliest names and most violent hit men". Anybody can form a frat, shoot to kill, build muscles that are bigger than Ben Johnson on steriods, dress Gucci, Versace, Prada or Fendi and ultimately attract those looking for the bad boy aura.

 When you leave school, you will find that this imaginary competition which spurred you to kill, maim, steal and destroy the lifes of others becomes useless to you when you have to work with, inter-marry, attend church and form businesses opprtunities with your former "enemies" in the after school life.

 Also the graduate members of frats who have made a name for themselves abandon the obligation to give back to the undergraduate members they have fathered or mothered as we now see, by showing good examples and truthfully aknowledging they in turn made violent and exuberant mistakes while on campuse and that the only difference between them is the factual point of having survived school. 

This is the bane and root of the problem in campuses whether you are the first pyrate, airlord,buccanneer, friend of the friends, maphite, axemen, ngbangba brother, bagger, red/black beret, marine or al qaeda or last initiate. The King Kong attitude is what we are all guilty of not, the nonsense written by ignorant journalists or sinister born again??? people with fake blood drinking testimonies. not to deride born again xtians, but the ones who carry the devil into the church by regaling the parishoners and clergy with overblown, exaggerated, dishonest and colourful stories of their past confrat life in a bid to do the final convincing of the new family, that they are truly reborn. I witnessed one myself.

Until the king kong attitude is totally shed by both the graduate frat or sorority members and those still unfortunate to be in school, there will continue to be death,violence, maiming, arrogance, stealing and frivolous reasons to go to war like "I saw you looking at my girlfriend" as if that were a crime.

All and I repeat All are guilty including yours truly

TO THOSE THAT REALLY KNOW,  maybe this medicine will help

Pancho Villa

PS. no decoding is necessary.

AVAST there Bassey something,

by your nominal you share a surname with person among BAN that can speak with oomph. However if you advise all your brothers to "yarn or TC" on your private website alone, wherein lies the benefit of sharing ideas that will rid our institutions of unnecessary violence.

Secondly it is well to sell the ruggedity of your frat with pain or gain, all men worth their "salt coatedness" will do that but like above the problem still persists. Kindly profer solutions to the current rot and maybe some good will come out of it.

More salt to your elbow however for the continued education of the uninformed.

Pancho Villa (from the first)

Yea-Yeah. Afta all said and done, there is no decency on the sea.

If u attended an ajebo school where cultism is like boys' scout, be informed now that in some otha school, it's a boy touts-thing. And u all have the same orientation.

And if u're outside the country, well, just delete your post because u can't feel us, and we can't feel u because your info might be pretty dated. If Wole had any posts here, this would go 4 him 2. Like someone said here, he was myopic. In fact, he wasnt. He knew what he was doing. He meant it this way.

What can be decent about doctrines that say loot is treasure ?

   SAY NO TO CULTISM.I BETTER GET OUT OF THIS THREAD AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

My people nothing is ever created of formed with a good intention that does not end up been infested with evil. Even in heavenly places, God created the angels and yet there was Lucifer the bad egg; my lord Jesus chose/selected/initiated 12 disciples and yet there was a Judas.

What am i driving at??? simple: as far as there is positives , negatives are never far away,wole is not the cause of the problem neither is bolaji, they both had a plan and vision for good associations but missed out on the negatives, i believe the suggestions by bassy231 will go a long way in curbing ad checking excesses in our institutions; register these associations both at national ad school level,let every one member be know physically and acedemically, lecturers, or/and well meaning politicians who are members should oversee their activities and finally the rod must not be spared when one errs-an outright SPOT.

The way the univerrsity system is now, belonging to a responsible frat is the way out of oppression. Even though there are bad eggs, you just wont have a choice especially in state school. I'm a lasuite and virtually all my close friends 'belong' except a few of us who will even belong very soon just to avoid being cheated and chanced.

I'll go wit bassey231 because that seems to be the way out http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/1109.html?1192114896
This link should guide us further, it's an amazing forum where I've learnt a lot from.
Any violence and negativities happening shouldnt be blamed on anybody as it is the sign of the end time, m not a preacher but the truth must be told.
I just hope I have made some points

The problems of cultism still remains in our higher institituion. the question is not who started it, but why in the first place. Because to my own point of view, the taught shouldn't have been conceived in the first place. I don't see how you fight the issue of racism and oppression by actually oppressing others.
Ok, Wole Soyinka was the founder of Pyrate confraternity which i believe consisit of a group of Seven. What happens to other people that were not members. You see the issue shouldn't have been conceive in the first place. now more people are killing their selves all the name of cultism. while the founding fathers are still allive leaving healthy. What is there to gain? somebody please say something!!!!

Talking about eradicating Cultism in Nigerian by the year 2020, do you think it is possible? Cultism has eaten deep into our society today, stopping it is going to be a heronious task. because it was started by one man as they say but can that one person still eardicate it? The answer is NO. Before it can be eradicated it have to take the collective effort of all nigerians because in our society today people don't work in one they always work in pairs and if one is hurt the others will definetly fight for their own. Now tell me how can this be stopped? Because this days people hang out in groups and call themselves various names.
so i will say before cultism is stopped the issue of tribalism, nationalism and culturalism if there is a word like that should be looked into, so that one can travel from his place to another without fear of intimidation or harrasement.
Unless this is done the issue of cultism will continue for generations

Kingsley Banks
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it is a shame that there are so may ignorant peeeps here. anyway there is no justification for the horrors meted out by frats all over the country,  we all know the trouble makers and those who are not,  i particularly liked the post that said some people gain leadership experience from these fraternities,  there's no need to reply the dude who posted the blood drinking, wierd dancing crap, you can't blame him for what he has posted, that is why he is a lubber,  for all it is worth although some buccaneers have misbehaved i have agreat deal of respect for them,  they need to get their acts together and pull away from the rascality of other fraternites. alora mi cousins stop posting c*ps here it doesn't speak well(love your website by the way), ahoy

wole soyinka didnt form a cult,he with his friends formed a  sorta social group on campus before judging him you need to have things in the proper perpective of these days, university campuses were so free of crime that they were like secondary schools there was a middle class and crime rate was low, the whole thing started being bastardized after them wole soyinka left and they had no control over the group, frustrated university students started joining in and people with issues from home looking for an outlet started the killings ,the politicians seeing an avenue to exploit started recruiting them for their intimidation as most political thugs who are not students are either not brutal enough as they have families,issues in the real world and are not as smart and daring as a student ,it is realli easy to eradicate but the lawmakers do not want it to be and it has spread to local secondary schools in nigeria