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lami4life (f)
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While I've always had my PERSONAL reservations about this spraying thing, this new law keeps me wondering:
1. How do the authorities intend enforcing and implementing this law effectively? 2. Is it yet another lip service towards the preservation of our 'national pride'? 3. Ain't there other more pressing fiscal and monetary issues to be addressed?
I just wonder
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dee02 (m)
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If not for the fact that Sunny Ade is my friend's father and a respectable elder, i would have swore "thunder fire his mouth", but i would expect elders to think before they talk, afterall flies think before they perch of fresh shit!
That crazy culture of spraying money has to stop!With all the problems in the country, some dysfunctional human beings do not have respect and regards, all dey do is ponce around with their big pouts and throw money about like it aint nothing.
if people are so interested in flaunting wealth, then why not attend to more pressing issues in order to move the nation forward and if they don't want to do that, then they can carry their money to heaven
It is a shame and it needs to stop point blank, to cap it all, some of these money throwers go home and start gnashing their teeth "lamenting about flexing borrowed money to pull effect"
Anyone caught throwing money about should be made to lick them off the floor with their own mouth and chew it, with a satchet of pure water provided to digest it OR be shot pointblank at close range, that way they would appreciate it better or what do you all think nairalanders?!
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mama orga (f)
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Excuse me fellas, so is it the dirty money that has caused our economy to stink? of course not so please stop coming up with stupid excuses that it makes the currency notes dirty. the Government should rather focus on improving our economic situation rather than diverting people's minds to this inconsequential issue.
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mama orga (f)
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While I've always had my PERSONAL reservations about this spraying thing, this new law keeps me wondering:
1. How do the authorities intend enforcing and implementing this law effectively? 2. Is it yet another lip service towards the preservation of our 'national pride'? 3. Ain't there other more pressing fiscal and monetary issues to be addressed?
I just wonder
My sista i dey wonder too ooooo
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nuzo (m)
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While I've always had my PERSONAL reservations about this spraying thing, this new law keeps me wondering:
1. How do the authorities intend enforcing and implementing this law effectively? 2. Is it yet another lip service towards the preservation of our 'national pride'? 3. Ain't there other more pressing fiscal and monetary issues to be addressed?
I just wonder
1. I personally feel the law may not be too active as some laws are usually created to bring people to sanity. 2. The priority for passing the law was not about national pride, it was to reduce the cost of minting new naira notes every now and then. 3. There are ofcourse, but the powers that be will not allow them to be passed, for whichever reason best known to them.
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Sky Blue
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I hope and pray that this law hasn't been passed. My main reason is simply that it would confirm my fears that Yaradua's government is such a sham for lack of a better word. Sure he looks like a nice man but he is a rubbish leader (if this law has been passed). The freedom of information bill has not been passed, the energy sector remains the way it is, there has been no significant change made to the leadership of INEC or INEC itself and yet we are really actually talking about this? One word my friends, priority. This government is turning out to be all talk no action and ultimately DIRECTIONLESS. For cryng out loud he is a leader, so let him LEAD. I seriously doubt that Solodu has the power to declare any law, if he does then what is the legislature there for (forgot, they are debating about how we dress). With each passing day the news becomes more disheartening and shows lack of leadership. Gas flaring was meant to have stopped by now, but the deadline has been moved AGAIN to the end of this year. Isn't gas flaring the major contributor to the ecological degradation people in the Niger Delta are complaining about? And guess what, there are even rumours that the deadline would be postphoned, AGAIN. We need a man with spine to stand up to multinational corporations because our country is meant to be lead by the president not multinationals. As president he is meant to be the leader of the PDP and yet look at how roudy and undisciplined PDP is. Sorry to deviate from topic, but to get back to it, one word, priority. Although i don't think spraying contributes to even a fifth of the abused Naira, i still think Soludu has his priorities completely wrong if this is what he is really focusing on. For those that argue from the whole 'money has to be used to make new ones' angle, can you please give some estimate as to how much you think it costs to print money? Major abuse of Naira as i can gather is from everyday use like market women fishing around in their bra to give you change, etc. Ultimately, if our notes had value people won't be so eager to 'abuse' it and take better care of their money. I'm sorry but i believe it really is that simple. In england it is very easy to see 2p or 1p on the ground. However, you would never see a note on the ground or rough handled. Why? because the currency has value. Isn't this what Soludu should be focusing on? Even without that, a £20 note is surprisingly durable even considering it is not the most commonly used. If people in charge have really run out of ideas and direction, they should let others lead.
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darqly (m)
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The general consensus is that people who lack money are the most likely to show off at any given occasion. The other group are those that are just plain uneducated. What does spraying money add to you? or take away from you for that matter? I'm all for it. Soludo's duties are not exclusive to inflationary-countermeasures as some are wont to believe. If we must do it, then we must do it right!
How can spraying be our culture? We always use that term to justify our lawlessness and brazen disregard for law and order.
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mama orga (f)
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I hope and pray that this law hasn't been passed. My main reason is simply that it would confirm my fears that Yaradua's government is such a sham for lack of a better word. Sure he looks like a nice man but he is a rubbish leader (if this law has been passed). The freedom of information bill has not been passed, the energy sector remains the way it is, there has been no significant change made to the leadership of INEC or INEC itself and yet we are really actually talking about this? One word my friends, priority. This government is turning out to be all talk no action and ultimately DIRECTIONLESS. For cryng out loud he is a leader, so let him LEAD. I seriously doubt that Solodu has the power to declare any law, if he does then what is the legislature there for (forgot, they are debating about how we dress). With each passing day the news becomes more disheartening and shows lack of leadership. Gas flaring was meant to have stopped by now, but the deadline has been moved AGAIN to the end of this year. Isn't gas flaring the major contributor to the ecological degradation people in the Niger Delta are complaining about? And guess what, there are even rumours that the deadline would be postphoned, AGAIN. We need a man with spine to stand up to multinational corporations because our country is meant to be lead by the president not multinationals. As president he is meant to be the leader of the PDP and yet look at how roudy and undisciplined PDP is. Sorry to deviate from topic, but to get back to it, one word, priority. Although i don't think spraying contributes to even a fifth of the abused Naira, i still think Soludu has his priorities completely wrong if this is what he is really focusing on. For those that argue from the whole 'money has to be used to make new ones' angle, can you please givesome estimate as to how much you think it costs to print money? Major abuse of Naira as i can gather is from everyday use like market women fishing around in their bra to give you change, etc. Ultimately, if our notes had value people won't be so eager to 'abuse' it and take better care of their money. I'm sorry but i believe it really is that simple. In england it is very easy to see 2p or 1p on the ground. However, you would never see a note on the ground or rough handled. Why? because the currency has value. Isn't this what Soludu should be focusing on? If people in charge have really run out of ideas and direction, they should let others lead.
YOU ARE ON POINT MY BROTHER
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mama orga (f)
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The general consensus is that people who lack money are the most likely to show off at any given occasion. The other group are those that are just plain uneducated. What does spraying money add to you? or take away from you for that matter? I'm all for it. Soludo's duties are not exclusive to inflationary-countermeasures as some are wont to believe. If we must do it, then we must do it right!
How can spraying be our culture? We always use that term to justify our lawlessness and brazen disregard for law and order.
NA You BE EDUCATED, NA ONLY You GO SCHOOL FOR NIJA She hisses so loudly it can wake a sleeping man up Wake up joo
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mama orga (f)
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The general consensus is that people who lack money are the most likely to show off at any given occasion. The other group are those that are just plain uneducated. What does spraying money add to you? or take away from you for that matter? I'm all for it. Soludo's duties are not exclusive to inflationary-countermeasures as some are wont to believe. If we must do it, then we must do it right!
How can spraying be our culture? We always use that term to justify our lawlessness and brazen disregard for law and order
NA ONLY You GO SCHOOL FOR NIJA NA ONLY You BE EDUCATED
She hisses so loudly that it can wake a sleeping man up Wake up joo
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Kobojunkie
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texazzpete (m) Posts: 1313
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Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo « #179 on: Today at 07:58:31 AM »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THIS is why Nigeria is going backwards. People put their personal comfort ahead of what is morally right. This is how Environmental Sanitation, a period set aside to keep the environment clean was abused and neglected, because people do not see the harm in doing it.
This issue should not even cause this level of debate. The Government spends money reprinting damaged mint and spraying does [b]some[size=12pt][/size] damage to the Naira note.[/b]
The Government has made sevral appeals, several campaigns designed to curb naira abuse. it has had Zero effect. The only solution is to make a law so people will be forced to obey.
Some people are encouraging the Nigerian govt to spend billions in making stronger notes just so they can continue this degrading act. Why??
When it comes down to it, all we see in this topic is a bunch of selfish Nigerians who can only think of themselves and not their country.
Pity, really. . I am sorry if you do not realize it by now but binding the hands of the people as way to lazily walk away from it's responsibility to the people is actually selfish on the part of the government. The Government spends money rebuilding roads that are ruined by people running back and forth on it, should people be banned from using the roads then??? Please stop blaming the people from saying the best practises should be adopted even in this. Even you are not sure what percentage of the money made is destroyed through trampling at spray parties. Heck Soludo has not provided statistics to support this claim. Infact, if you ask the average Nigerian, you will be told that more money is destroyed due to daily wear and tear than it is through trampling at parties. Unless you can provide numbers to support the need for this ban, I still consider this ridiculous. I have given so many examples of how we should approach this but it seems everyone so far skips those examples and goes on and on trying to tell us the same old NIGERIA SPENDS MONEY REPRINTING MONEY JOKE, no one has yet to provide us with details that will better help this debate. What material is the money made of?? This is simple. If you publish a book with low quality paper, about 90% of the users will report of how the paper started to go to pieces when they started using the book in schools, at work and what not. If you use better quality paper to publish your book, you will be told how the book is still as new. I mean look at the Nigerian school books and compare them to books that were published, say in Europe or america and you get the idea. Durability is needed. It should be high on the list for soludo and his team to win this. I don't even know what to say anymore. This should be common sense. Start where you need to and then urge the people to follow you as you go in the right direction
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Kobojunkie
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I hope and pray that this law hasn't been passed. My main reason is simply that it would confirm my fears that Yaradua's government is such a sham for lack of a better word. Sure he looks like a nice man but he is a rubbish leader (if this law has been passed). The freedom of information bill has not been passed, the energy sector remains the way it is, there has been no significant change made to the leadership of INEC or INEC itself and yet we are really actually talking about this? One word my friends, priority. This government is turning out to be all talk no action and ultimately DIRECTIONLESS. For cryng out loud he is a leader, so let him LEAD. I seriously doubt that Solodu has the power to declare any law, if he does then what is the legislature there for (forgot, they are debating about how we dress). With each passing day the news becomes more disheartening and shows lack of leadership. Gas flaring was meant to have stopped by now, but the deadline has been moved AGAIN to the end of this year. Isn't gas flaring the major contributor to the ecological degradation people in the Niger Delta are complaining about? And guess what, there are even rumours that the deadline would be postphoned, AGAIN. We need a man with spine to stand up to multinational corporations because our country is meant to be lead by the president not multinationals. As president he is meant to be the leader of the PDP and yet look at how roudy and undisciplined PDP is. Sorry to deviate from topic, but to get back to it, one word, priority. Although i don't think spraying contributes to even a fifth of the abused Naira, i still think Soludu has his priorities completely wrong if this is what he is really focusing on. For those that argue from the whole 'money has to be used to make new ones' angle, can you please give some estimate as to how much you think it costs to print money? Major abuse of Naira as i can gather is from everyday use like market women fishing around in their bra to give you change, etc. Ultimately, if our notes had value people won't be so eager to 'abuse' it and take better care of their money. I'm sorry but i believe it really is that simple. In england it is very easy to see 2p or 1p on the ground. However, you would never see a note on the ground or rough handled. Why? because the currency has value. Isn't this what Soludu should be focusing on? Even without that, a £20 note is surprisingly durable even considering it is not the most commonly used. If people in charge have really run out of ideas and direction, they should let others lead.
Exactly
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4 Play (m)
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I'm sorry but i believe it really is that simple. In england it is very easy to see 2p or 1p on the ground. However, you would never see a note on the ground or rough handled. Why? because the currency has value. Isn't this what Soludu should be focusing on? Even without that, a £20 note is surprisingly durable even considering it is not the most commonly used. If people in charge have really run out of ideas and direction, they should let others lead. There is no fiat by which Soludo can cause the Naira to be more valuable unless he embarks on a re-denomination,remind me again what happened the last time he tried that. As things stand today,the value of the Naira suffers if the Govt has to keep printing notes more frequently than normal just to keep up with the "habits" of Nigerians.
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Kobojunkie
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There is no fiat by which Soludo can cause the Naira to be more valuable unless he embarks on a re-denomination,remind me again what happened the last time he tried that.
As things stand today,the value of the Naira suffers if the Govt has to keep printing notes more frequently than normal just to keep up with the "habits" of Nigerians.
Here is a simple and direct question for you. What stops the government from using the same money now to produce and get into circulation better quality bills right now to counter the "habits" of Nigerians?  Just the answer to this question is what I seek, nothing more.
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emiemi (f)
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One of the reasons i joined this forum is because i believe it's a forum where we can discuss intelligently the problems we face in our society and try to effect changes by putting forward practical solutions. I would like to ask KSA when the culture of money-spraying started and what is the objective? If we continue to do some things over and over again in the society and expect a change, then we are the greatest fool of all times. If we expect others to believe in all our reforms, we must believe in it also and try to make it work (for the practical and reasonable ones). If u ask me, i honestly detest the idea of show-off at parties for the sake of it. When u look at the "oyinbo' that have money sef, u don't find them doing the kind of yeye showoff that we do and call our culture. We should put off this and other stupidities and look to ways of making this country (which is being seen as a huge joke in the developed countries) better not for some few people but for everybody. KSA should go and look at what culture means in social studies. Kudos to soludo, who has been able to make some valuable changes to our economic system. Let us join hands to make this country great by abolishing some ''crude'' ways of doing things and embrace a more effective way. i don talk my own, he that has an ear,
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Kobojunkie
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One of the reasons i joined this forum is because i believe it's a forum where we can discuss intelligently the problems we face in our society and try to effect changes by putting forward practical solutions. I would like to ask KSA when the culture of money-spraying started and what is the objective? If we continue to do some things over and over again in the society and expect a change, then we are the greatest fool of all times. If we expect others to believe in all our reforms, we must believe in it also and try to make it work (for the practical and reasonable ones). If u ask me, i honestly detest the idea of show-off at parties for the sake of it. When u look at the "oyinbo' that have money sef, u don't find them doing the kind of yeye showoff that we do and call our culture. We should put off this and other stupidities and look to ways of making this country (which is being seen as a huge joke in the developed countries) better not for some few people but for everybody. KSA should go and look at what culture means in social studies. Kudos to soludo, who has been able to make some valuable changes to our economic system. Let us join hands to make this country great by abolishing some ''crude'' ways of doing things and embrace a more effective way. i don talk my own, he that has an ear, I think the first issue you need to address is the lack of information on your part about this subject. Spraying money is not a NIGERIA ONLY thing. Across America and Europe each Night ( As in 365 days a Year) MOney is being sprayed by Americans, Latinos, and people of all cultures. Please research these. Check out a strip club or even a celebrity party near you some day and you might be surprised at what Oyinbo does.
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Kobojunkie
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http://www.usmint.gov/downloads/foia/2000_final_strat_plan_11.pdfThe mission of the United States Mint is to manufacture the highest quality circulating, numismatic, and bullion coins at the lowest possible cost and to deliver them in a timely manner . . . to expand our markets through exceptional customer service, product development, and innovative marketing . . . to sell numismatic and bullion products at a reasonable price and profit, and to provide security over assets entrusted to us.
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Sky Blue
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at 4 Play and emiemi, so you are saying this is actually a priority? Just a simple question. With the state of the nation right now, policies that could be fowarded to improve the economic situation, the value of the naira, improve in the banking sector to support business, moving our economy to make it less dependent on resources by encouraging small businesses and all this host of issues that Solodu can focus on, you are saying THIS is a priority? That is my simple and humble qusetion. Spraying comes no where close to accounting for most of the abuse of the naira that should be designed to stand wear and tear longer and hence have a longer cycle for all those giving the impression that our economy is so bad because of Naira abuse. So are we saying that the situation with our economy is so sound right now that the only way forward Solodu can take out of so many other things to tackle is to stop spraying? People please i say again, PRIORITY.
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Kobojunkie
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http://www.bep.treas.gov/document.cfm/18/106The average life span of a Federal Reserve Note by denomination: Denomination Life Span
$ 1 , 21 months $ 5 , 16 months $ 10 , 18 months $ 20 , 24 months $ 50 , 55 months $100 , 89 months Can anyone please provide the Life Span info on the Nigerian Naira bills??? Or did Soludo not provide this information for the people to justify his need for a law at least???
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4 Play (m)
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Here is a simple and direct question for you. What stops the government from using the same money now to produce and get into circulation better quality bills right now to counter the "habits" of Nigerians?  Just the answer to this question is what I seek, nothing more. There is no amount improvements that can "counter" such habits.No such technology exists. Unless we want to discard of paper notes all together but there is no evidence that our Naira notes are of poorer quality than say the dollar and that the dollar will survive the kind of treatment Nigerians usually mete out.I can envisage a situation where such treatment will even get worse if there is a perception the notes are more durable. @SkyBlue Unless this law applies to "spraying" alone,your argument is invalid.The govt deals,literally with hundreds of measures per annum, and I don't see how dealing with this amounts to a failure to prioritise.There are tangible financial benefits to this measure. I don't support the criminalisation but I full understand why they are considering it.
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Kobojunkie
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There is no amount improvements that can "counter" such habits.No such technology exists.
Unless we want to discard of paper notes all together but there is no evidence that our Naira notes are of poorer quality than say the dollar and that the dollar will survive the kind of treatment Nigerians usually mete out.I can envisage a situation where such treatment will even get worse if there is a perception the notes are more durable.
@SkyBlue
Unless this law applies to "spraying" alone,your argument is invalid.The govt deals,literally with hundreds of measures per annum, and I don't see how dealing with this amounts to a failure to prioritise.There are tangible financial benefits to this measure.
I don't support the criminalisation but I full understand why they are considering it.
Can you prove that statement you made there is for a fact??? Or is this just a case of You said it and so we should all believe it ?? Other countries have been able to counter such habits but in Nigeria's case, it is impossible?? So, the law then does what if it can not counter the habit???
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4 Play (m)
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Can you prove that statement you made there is for a fact??? Or is this just a case of You said it and so we should all believe it ?? Other countries have been able to counter such habits but in Nigeria's case, it is impossible?? So, the law then does what if it can not counter the habit???
I thought it was for you to prove the truth of your assertion.You are the one who brought up the point that Nigerians peculiar habits of handling paper money can be countered,well,the ball is in your court.
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Sky Blue
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At 4 Play, haven't we been informed throughout the thread that the measure is attacking "spraying" alone? So with your reasoning isn't my arguement as you said 'valid'. Even if this law is meant to attack all abuse of Naira, that is, mamaput women, police men, market people in general, bus drivers and conductors, suya joints, taxi driver, the list goes on, how on earth would such a law be enforced. I am not purposely being hostile but i would genuinely like you to enlighten me on how this law would be enforced. To me it is just what has come to be a trade mark of the Nigerian government, complete lack of priority and understanding of the situation. Do people spray diamonds encrusted paper in owambe? The naira has no value so to people it is pretty much inconsequential to spray. Give the paper they are throwing value first then we can begin to have this debate. Money is meant to be durable and that is why i am sure egg shells were never used as currency throughout history. Even without that arguement, there are so many issues to tackle and Solodu is attacking this? Forget about the durability arguement sef, give the paper value then we can begin to go after laws which stop what when compared to the WHOLE picture is pretty inconcequential in Nigeria. This my friends is simply putting the cart before the horse.
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Kobojunkie
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I thought it was for you to prove the truth of your assertion.You are the one who brought up the point that Nigerians peculiar habits of handling paper money can be countered,well,the ball is in your court.
Well, for the umpteenth time, here is it is again, When you Produce more durable notes, these notes will withstand more wear and tear and hence reduce frequency of reprinting. If I buy a shirt made of low quality materialfor $10 and I have to replace that shirt every month, in a year, I will end up spending about $120 of just having one shirt. If I instead buy a higher quality shirt that is able to withstand the wear and tear of daily life and even more, for $60 and I find that I do not have to replace the shirt for another 20 months, I will save $60 that year and even more the next year on that same shirt. Now If Soludo prints low quality Naira 1 notes money for 10 kobo each as we have today that is unable to stand daily wear and tear and more,that requires reprint say 3 times a year, he may have to spend 30 kobo each year on every Naira note. Is Soludo then decides to print more high quality durable notes that can withstand daily wear and tear and more at the cost of 15 kobo which do not have to be reprinted for say 12 months, He ends up actually saving 15 kobo on the naira each year. Now note how the saving of money counters the money lost through reprinting non durable notes regardless of the habits of the people??? I mean instead of loosing money, we gain money back with the new way. Does that help you understand the argument for improving durability as the more sensitive way to go. Can anyone please provide the Life Span info on the Nigerian Naira bills??? Or did Soludo not provide this information for the people to justify his need for a law at least???
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texazzpete (m)
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Ok here's what i can distill from the arguments of those that are aginst this law
1. This law doesn't solve Nigeria's Economic/Power problems. Why this law when we still have bad roads? it's true. it doesn't solve those problems. But any good law is better than No law at all. Someone can argue that laws targetting rapists and robbers do not solve our power problems. Slightly sucky analogy, but it sticks.
2. Notes should be made more durable This indicates acceptance of a misdeed, a capitulation to disrespect of the Naira. Even higher quality notes can be damaged. imagine multiple guests with embedded grains of sand in their shoes stepping on polymer notes. Imagine someone scraping his shoes across a freshly minted naira note. This also calls for notes to be remade, costing billions of Naira. Add to that the billions spent in adverts promoting the newly naira notes and you'll have money diverted from more relevant sectors of the economy.
3. Sprayed money only accounts for a small percentage of damaged notes We'll take improvement any way it comes. And don't forget that the Naira abuse bill encompasses many other forms of abuse than just spraying of cash. If we curb this abuse, then we're making progress. Besides, money stamped upon starts the abuse cycle off,a s damage created on a naira note produces lots of other propagation ponts for more damage.
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Well, for the umpteenth time, here is it is again, When you Produce more durable notes, these notes will withstand more wear and tear and hence reduce frequency of reprinting.
If I buy a shirt made of low quality materialfor $10 and I have to replace that shirt every month, in a year, I will end up spending about $120 of just having one shirt. If I instead buy a higher quality shirt that is able to withstand the wear and tear of daily life and even more, for $60 and I find that I do not have to replace the shirt for another 20 months, I will save $60 that year and even more the next year on that same shirt.
Now If Soludo prints low quality Naira 1 notes money for 10 kobo each as we have today that is unable to stand daily wear and tear and more,that requires reprint say 3 times a year, he may have to spend 30 kobo each year on every Naira note. Is Soludo then decides to print more high quality durable notes that can withstand daily wear and tear and more at the cost of 15 kobo which do not have to be reprinted for say 12 months, He ends up actually saving 15 kobo on the naira each year. Now note how the saving of money counters the money lost through reprinting non durable notes regardless of the habits of the people??? I mean instead of loosing money, we gain money back with the new way.
Does that help you understand the argument for improving durability as the more sensitive way to go.
This reminds me of when a friend tore my shirt by mistake, only to tell me that i should have bought a shirt made of tougher material instead of blaming him for tearing the shirt. Or when someone made a hole in my neighbour's leather chair, only to turn round and say 'if only it was original italian leather, this thing for no tear' The point you've been making is that Soludo should either make the notes stronger or STFU about the naira abuse, right? If only there was a way to make the naira completely abuse freebut there isn't! So no matter how durable the naira note is made, there will always be abuse.
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Keziah (f)
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Someone once said there is no higher form of education or technology than logic, or something close. The likes of Nuzo, 4-play, emiemi, and others have repeatedly stressed that fact that spraying the naira, and other forms of naira abuse are the ones Soludo is baning. But to my dismay i keep reading posts from Kobojunkie, and some  , , it beats my imagination as to why some claimed literates, keep on displaying their stupidity and ignorance or arrogance by beating around the bush when the truth is glaring. Kobojunkie, i have always enjoyed your post and respected your opinions but this one? Mba, u messed up big time, i guess u just want to win an argument by defiling all logic and common sense. And please stop comparing a Strip Club to a Nigerian Owambe, because there is really no comparism between the two. As for the He-goat Ajisafe, i guess your co touts are missing u at oshodi, or mushin right now. Desert the cybercafe you are using right now, because your ignorance and ill manners stinks and i am afraid the stench is oozing to all Conner's of the earth. Whoops! i have to run b/4 i am contaminated. Peace out!
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Sky Blue
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at texazzpete, interesting first point but what you seem to be missing is that time spent on what we all seem to be agreeing is not a priority right now is time not spent on the more 'important' priorities that can really make a difference. The members of the house of assembly spent so much time on the whole Eteh saga (because the woman was too stubborn), what was the consequence? Has the budget been passed yet? Further delay of the budget being passed meant further delay of the implementation of the budget, hence further delay in development. So you see? Spending time on stuff like this is consequential. I did not say spraying of Naira is not 'abuse' of the naira but for the last time, PRIORITY. God bless 
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Kobojunkie
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This reminds me of when a friend tore my shirt by mistake, only to tell me that i should have bought a shirt made of tougher material instead of blaming him for tearing the shirt.
Or when someone made a hole in my neighbour's leather chair, only to turn round and say 'if only it was original italian leather, this thing for no tear'
The point you've been making is that Soludo should either make the notes stronger or STFU about the naira abuse, right?
If only there was a way to make the naira completely abuse freebut there isn't! So no matter how durable the naira note is made, there will always be abuse.
YOur assumption here has absolutely nothing to do with the idea. Right now he is complaining about reprint rate? right?? Make more durable money, reprint less, instead of EXPECTING TO FORCE the people to make the changes to save him money instead of him doing his job. This is more of a case of a man given a contract to build roads and he complains that if people drive less on those roads, the roads will stay ok ( instead of him building the roads with high quality materials and putting in a better maintainance plan in place). It does not work that way. What do you think the American people would have said if Bernanke came in office and made a claim such as the one soludo did??? I mean if Bernanke came in to say people should STOP BUYING HOUSES if they do not have enough money to do so and have laws put in place to fine people who try to get a house even in this economy as his solution to the problem, what do you think americans would have done?? FIRED HIS BEHIND IMMEDIATELY!!!
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Damest09 (f)
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Nigeria governments are useless. FULLSTOP.
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Keziah (f)
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Quote from: Kobojunkie on Today at 02:25:53 PM Well, for the umpteenth time, here is it is again, When you Produce more durable notes, these notes will withstand more wear and tear and hence reduce frequency of reprinting. Next time pack all your dollars and keep steping on them (stampeding) and please do it really roughly the way they do it when they are dancing. And when u are through just come back and tell us what it looks like  . Then we will decide what is wrong or right. sighs wear and tear ko, tear and wear ni.
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bawomolo (m)
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at texazzpete, interesting first point but what you seem to be missing is that time spent on what we all seem to be agreeing is not a priority right now is time not spent on the more 'important' priorities that can really make a difference.
this is ridiculous. the circulation of currency in an economy is priority. promoting good manners among Nigerians is a priority.
The members of the house of assembly spent so much time on the whole Eteh saga, what was the consequence?
no price tag should be placed on combating corruption
Has the budget been passed yet? Further delay of the budget being passed meant further delay of the implementation of the budget, hence further delay in development.
passing the budget is not the job of the CBN but that off the house of assembly. although making a law against is spraying is wrong, nigerians should still be encouraged to treat the notes careful. squeezing naira notes into your bras, under your socks, trampling them is just plain bizzare. nigerians need to stop differing to the government when something goes wrong.
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