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bawomolo (m)
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Nigeria governments are useless. FULLSTOP.
and who are members of the nigerian government?? aliens. no nigerian people/citizens control the government. we the people of nigerians are a reflection of our government.
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Keziah (f)
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Nigeria governments are useless. FULLSTOP.
Yes we know. But that do not stop the people from doing the best they can. Or trying to lookout for theirselves |
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Sky Blue
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at bawomolo, the etteh arguement wasn't me saying corruption should not be fought. it was simply an analogy to show that time spent on one thing simply means time not spent on something else. It is simply up to us to now judge wether there aren't more important things that time could be spent on, what do you think? Also, i agree with you that taking care of Naira should be encouraged, but placing a law? Come on.
You also said we control the government? Are we speaking of thesame Nigeria?
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Kobojunkie
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Someone once said there is no higher form of education or technology than logic, or something close. The likes of Nuzo, 4-play, emiemi, and others have repeatedly stressed that fact that spraying the naira, and other forms of naira abuse are the ones Soludo is baning. But to my dismay i keep reading posts from Kobojunkie, and some  , , it beats my imagination as to why some claimed literates, keep on displaying their stupidity and ignorance or arrogance by beating around the bush when the truth is glaring. Kobojunkie, i have always enjoyed your post and respected your opinions but this one? Mba, u messed up big time, i guess u just want to win an argument by defiling all logic and common sense. And please stop comparing a Strip Club to a Nigerian Owambe, because there is really no comparism between the two. As for the He-goat Ajisafe, i guess your co touts are missing u at oshodi, or mushin right now. Desert the cybercafe you are using right now, because your ignorance and ill manners stinks and i am afraid the stench is oozing to all Conner's of the earth. Whoops! i have to run b/4 i am contaminated. Peace out! For people like you, I suggest you go back and do your homework. Read up on the law,the information you were actually provided with and then know the difference between your assumptions of the facts and then go to the front page of the thread and read the comments and then come back and repost and see things start making sense to you by then. @Texazzpete My Argument has never been that the people are not responsible in any way. I mean even here in America, you get to handle some filthy bills too if you use cash for most of your transactions. Filthy bills is not a Nigeria only problem. In an economy where an estimated 90% of transactions are cash transactions, it should be expected that the money, on exchangings hands so many times each day would definitely get some wear. Over here, I will right off my head say that less than 15% of transactions are actual cash transactions and so the main reason why we are not complaining of the same problem now. However, no laws were put in place to deal with the problem as is being done in Nigeria now, instead, the FEDS improved durability of the note back in world war two or so and also encouraged other forms of payment and that is how they were able to counter most of it. Laws are supposed to be last resort not first reactions in cases such as this. |
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pahtahkee
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My question is: Is the Nigerian or American government thinking of banning the spray of dollars in UK/Nigerian parties?  |
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Germannig
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KSA is a stupid and selfish imbecile. Because he is personally gaining from money-spraying (as a praise-singing musician), he wants to undermine Nigeria's new law with his selfish interest. To which Nigerian culture(s) does (do) spraying of money belong? Are those who made the law part of the Nigerian culture that promotes spraying, trampling and consequently defacing of currency notes?
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D-reloaded (f)
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You people just keep repeating the same garbage.
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ojimbo IV (m)
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can i suggest that we have 'spray bills' for the sake of spraying money. the idea of spraying money defeats the entire aim of having money in the first place. just because one needs to be gratified by money at an event does not by any means imply that the paper money should be abused. it is gross misconduct and should not be encouraged by the likes of KSA et al. if entertainers and event organisers depend on it for their survival then perhaps they should set up charity boxes rather than undermine the efforts of our dear cbn. worse still, it leads us to a chicken and egg situation - the cbn spends money to mint money and to remove bad ones from the system, and on the other hand we've got our shady brothers, uncles and aunts (u know who), who are supposed to help us get rid of bad notes, refeeding back into the system,
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nuzo (m)
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My question is: Is the Nigerian or American government thinking of banning the spray of dollars in UK/Nigerian parties? Your question should be: Must we wait for the "almighty" USA and Bernanke to ban tipping of dollar bills in strip clubs before CBN passes the bill in Nigeria?  |
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Kobojunkie
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Your question should be: Must we wait for the "almighty" USA and Bernanke to ban tipping of dollar bills in strip clubs before CBN passes the bill in Nigeria? His question is right actually but for reverse of yours. Must we ban tipping of dollar bills at strip clubs at all??? |
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Keziah (f)
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For people like you, I suggest you go back and do your homework. Read up on the law,the information you were actually provided with and then know the difference between your assumptions of the facts and then go to the front page of the thread and read the comments and then come back and repost and see things start making sense to you by then.
Thanks for the advice. But i don't reply to a post without reading from the beginning. I read all your comments and that of others from page 1- 7 b/4 i started replying. I don't think i need a law before i use my common sense or logic to know that, stampeding on naira notes that are being sprayed to dancers will suffer wear and tear quicker than the ones that are being handled with care. I guess u have never heard the advert that says "handle the naira with care na our/your identity?" It pisses me off when i go to my bank and i am being given dirty stinking naira notes to spend when one mischevious money-miss-road has hijacked the new ones just to spray at a owambe so that all the market women and co can dance on top to show they are enjoying life. In my village, when the Big Boys in Town wants to show' they come out with the bank notes untouched and land the bunch on your head, that way u know Ego Has Landed. Not some old school spraying naira notes on your head. ; chei! >:(D |
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parislomo (f)
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Ban it. Don't ban it.
My point is IN WHAT WAYS DO THE NEW LAW ON ABUSE OF NAIRA BENEFIT US ALL?
Yeah yeah, I read about DAMAGING AND REPRINTING WITH TAX PAYERS' MONEY.
But fellow Nigerians aren't there more pressing situations to salvage or rectify?
This particular enforcement (to me that is), is not well TIMED rara.
Ha, these enforcers should have sleepless nights (or brainstorming) over MOST PRESSING ISSUES!
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Keziah (f)
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@ Kobojunkie You don't argue for the sake of arguing. In a forum we give way to Logical reasoning and common sense not who wins the argument. Give up you are not making sense this time.  |
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Kobojunkie
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Thanks for the advice. But i don't reply to a post without reading from the beginning. I read all your comments and that of others from page 1- 7 b/4 i started replying.
I don't think i need a law before i use my common sense or logic to know that, stampeding on naira notes that are being sprayed to dancers will suffer wear and tear quicker than the ones that are being handled with care. I guess u have never heard the advert that says "handle the naira with care na our/your identity?"
It pisses me off when i go to my bank and i am being given dirty stinking naira notes to spend when one mischevious money-miss-road has hijacked the new ones just to spray at a owambe so that all the market women and co can dance on top to show they are enjoying life.
In my village, when the Big Boys in Town wants to show' they come out with the bank notes untouched and land the bunch on your head, that way u know Ego Has Landed. Not some old school spraying naira notes on your head. ; chei! >:(D
Here is the $1 Million dollar question for you then. How many Naira Bills per day are destroyed through the process of Spraying??? there here are other questions for you to also think of, a) What is the average Life span of the naira bill ?? b) How many Naira bills are actually connected to being destroyed by spraying?? c) Is Spraying really a Nigeria only thing?? d) What happens to Euros/Dollars that are Sprayed and Trampled in Other countries?? e) How often are the naira notes reprinted compared to currencies of other countries?? f) What statistics did Soludo use in deciding a ban ( another law) is needed in this case as against his working on the improving the quality and value of the bill instead?? How did he conclude that a ban will go a long way than improving quality and spending that same time and effort on improving value of the Naira within Africa alone??? @ Kobojunkie You don't argue for the sake of arguing. In a forum we give way to Logical reasoning and common sense not who wins the argument. Give up you are not making sense this time. Could you please argue sensibly?? It gets on my nerves when people start posting random stupidity and using phrases like WINNING ARGUMENT OR LOOSING. If that is all you have to offer, please let me know so I can go back to discussing this with the few who already show they are using their heads more. |
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pahtahkee
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Your question should be: Must we wait for the "almighty" USA and Bernanke to ban tipping of dollar bills in strip clubs before CBN passes the bill in Nigeria? Of what economical benefit does passing the bill by CBN serve on the Nigerian masses? |
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nuzo (m)
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Must we ban tipping of dollar bills at strip clubs at all???
No, if they deem it fit. At least the tipping is not alarming as it is in Nigeria. |
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Kobojunkie
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No, if they deem it fit. At least the tipping is not alarming as it is in Nigeria.
Tipping is not alarming as it is in Nigeria??? Are you sure you have been to Nigtclubs in foreign countries??? But Spraying is alarming?? Do you have stats to back up that claim please??? |
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pahtahkee
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KSA is a stupid and selfish imbecile. Because he is personally gaining from money-spraying (as a praise-singing musician), he wants to undermine Nigeria's new law with his selfish interest. To which Nigerian culture(s) does (do) spraying of money belong? Are those who made the law part of the Nigerian culture that promotes spraying, trampling and consequently defacing of currency notes?
Take it easy man! How does money spraying correspond to his selfish interest? What exactly is his selfish interest? |
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pahtahkee
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Here is the $1 Million dollar question for you then. How many Naira Bills per day are destroyed through the process of Spraying???
there here are other questions for you to also think of,
a) What is the average Life span of the naira bill ??
b) How many Naira bills are actually connected to being destroyed by spraying??
c) Is Spraying really a Nigeria only thing??
d) What happens to Euros/Dollars that are Sprayed and Trampled in Other countries??
e) How often are the naira notes reprinted compared to currencies of other countries??
f) What statistics did Soludo use in deciding a ban ( another law) is needed in this case as against his working on the improving the quality and value of the bill instead??
How did he conclude that a ban will go a long way than improving quality and spending that same time and effort on improving value of the Naira within Africa alone???
Could you please argue sensibly?? It gets on my nerves when people start posting random stupidity and using phrases like WINNING ARGUMENT OR LOOSING. If that is all you have to offer, please let me know so I can go back to discussing this with the few who already show they are using their heads more.
Very intelligent questions you have posed here! Can Germannig or someone else answer them please! |
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D-reloaded (f)
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Apparently these people have never been to a hiphop club or parties in the Hamptons where theu use dollar bills to snort cocaine or letting it "rain on them hos" anyway you people you can ban the spraying o. Please do. Thankfully those of us outside can cotinue to enjoy and with better money at that.  |
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nuzo (m)
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Of what economical benefit does passing the bill by CBN serve on the Nigerian masses? How many times do people have to answer you that. The cost of minting a naira note cost more than the original value. Many people contract all sort of diseases from the dirty naira note; some people will not even touch it if it's not mint. It barbaric and unruly. |
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Kobojunkie
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How many times do people have to answer you that.
The cost of minting a naira note cost more than the original value.
Many people contract all sort of diseases from the dirty naira note; some people will not even touch it if it's not mint.
It barbaric and unruly.
What is the source of these claims of yours??? Is it possible to see some numbers that support these claims??? |
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Keziah (f)
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@ Kobojunkie To think that Nuzo and others have been doing all they can to make u see reason from page 1-8 and all u have been yarning is nonsense, i did be an idiot if i take up your offer.  Sorry bro, i have better things to do this time.  Yawns, takes off before she loses her sanity. Na wa for nairaland. |
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ojimbo IV (m)
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@kobojunkie
u should understand that there is something known as solution by elimination. we don't need a prophet to tell us that spraying money is one glaring means of money degradation. so soludo is suggesting taking this gross abuse out of the equation. there's no doubt it is one of many, when the others poke their ugly heads out, trust me soludo will be the first to jump the gun.
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AGHOD (m)
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Soludo is running out of ideas. I think he should be redenominated.
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Kobojunkie
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@kobojunkie
u should understand that there is something known as solution by elimination. we don't need a prophet to tell us that spraying money is one glaring means of money degradation. so soludo is suggesting taking this gross abuse out of the equation. there's no doubt it is one of many, when the others poke their ugly heads out, trust me soludo will be the first to jump the gun.
Solution by elimination based on what facts?? I mean you don't in the year 2008 come up with things out of the air and claim it is to be based on non factual data. You have to at least provide some data to support these claims. Just cause we see a lot of mad people on the streets does not mean we can conclude that the city is infested with mad people as we know they move around a lot and it could be the same group of mad people you have been seeing all day and there may be only 10 of them. LMAO!!! When it comes to Politics/Economics, making laws should be LAST RESORT, again making Laws should BE LAST RESORT!!! Going by your Solution by Elimination ideology, Soludo should have tried one 1) Bringing the quality of the notes to today's standards. 2) Worked hard on at least improving the value of the Naira in the Commonwealth and then other things before deciding a law may be needed. But I have yet to hear anyone say he has tried the others. |
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Ujujoan (f)
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kobojunkie!!! I gues your name says it all. Why do people find it difficult to embrace change even when its the right thing. A thing as important as a Country's currency should be treated with nothing less that respect because it stands for the country's economy.
a) What is the average Life span of the naira bill ?? What is your own life span, does it mean u should go about living a reckless life since u have a long life span?
you know, it'll definitely get tiresome anwering your questions one by one.
I'll be amazed if you are a graduate. Christ, what Nigerian Universities produce!!
Please tell me, Why do you have to fling money around to enjoy a party, does it show how rich you are or how stupid you are? If wealth is meant to be displayed, try buying whoever a valuable gift, and avoid making a complete fool of yourself by fling money up and allowing it to fall down.
Please tell me when you saw a white man fling money around in parties, Its a completely babarish act and I doubt if they would do it.
Please try using you head, just a little bit, you'll then realise you sound soo stupid and ignorant by saying something like 'Is Spraying really a Nigeria only thing??'. Maybe you should also ask why if the killing of twins was also only a Nigerian thing,
I completely suppot the Professor and I think this Contry is well off without the likes of KSA whos only acheivement in life is playing music.
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ojimbo IV (m)
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Just cause we see a lot of mad people on the streets does not mean we can conclude that the city is infested with mad people as we know they move around a lot and it could be the same group of mad people you have been seeing all day and there may be only 10 of them. no doubt, but still begs the question though. shouldn't we do something about it? if there is reason to believe the cause can be attributed to an event, we shouldn't hesitate to bring it under control, rather than fold our hands and point at a million other reasons and still not do anything about them. |
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pahtahkee
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How many times do people have to answer you that.
The cost of minting a naira note cost more than the original value.
Many people contract all sort of diseases from the dirty naira note; some people will not even touch it if it's not mint.
It barbaric and unruly.
Are there data to show what kind of disease can be gotten from dirty naira notes? You people just want to talk for talking sake. Cost of minting a naira note, than the original value is higher? What data exists in respect to that? How does spraying naira notes contribute to the deterioration of the naira? When we are jobless, we look for avenues to keep us busy. We need economical reforms not wasting our time on frivolities! |
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Kobojunkie
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no doubt, but still begs the question though. shouldn't we do something about it? if there is reason to believe the cause can be attributed to an event, we shouldn't hesitate to bring it under control, rather than fold our hands and point at a million other reasons and still not do anything about them.
You just made a valid assessment but you did not follow it with a very educated way of dealing with it. Again, Just cause I assume that a cause is attributed to an event does not give me 100% right to go ahead and decide without actually data to support my assumption/hypothesis, that the event needs to be eliminated. That is not the way things should continue to work in that country. 1) Research has to be done to collect data to show that the cause can be truly attributed to the cause. What data has been provided so far?? I am yet to see a single stat or research to say without a doubt that the problem stems from there. NOT A SINGLE ONE. 2) Has Soludo eliminated other possible factors to be sure that this one factor is the one to be dealt with?? NO, the notes in circulation are still of the same old low quality so how do we know for sure that the low quality is not contributing 50% of the problem as it has in the past 3) What about other currencies that are in circulation, I mean the dollar bills and the Euros that are equally being sprayed in Nigeria, are they also suffering the same fate?? or is it just the Naira that has the issue??? etc. I mean you can put a dollar bill in your laundry machine and wash it ,2 cycles too, and it still comes out intact and with practically no change. Try the same experiment with a naira note and tell me what result you get. I hope you catch my drift now, |
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emmydee (m)
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Spraying d naira is what moves parties here. but, I have a problem with d dirty nature of our currency. so, what ever measures that can be used to reduce d dirtiness of our currency must be upheld.
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emmydee (m)
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@pahtahkee,
I quite agree with u. Naira notes should be reprinted often. and CBN should stop issuing very old notes to commercial banks. In fact, new notes should be reprinted yearly
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