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4 Play (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #96 on: February 18, 2008, 07:35 PM »

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Unless you can show me evidence to say otherwise, then my stand remains. This is not rocket science my brother, this is simple logic. If Countries A and B each have currencies that undergoes the same wear and tear daily but Country A's currency seem to need replacement more often than Country B's currency does, I would think the first place we would need to look is the quality of country A's currency to find out what the heck is going on. LMAO!!!!

This is where we both differ,I don't believe our currency undergoes the same wear and tear as other countries.I believe we have a unique cultural habit of "roughhandling" the Naira notes.Now,not having any empirical study done on the issue available,we can argue whether this premise is true till infinity but that is my basic belief albeit supported by anecdotal evidence.

I guess its the consequence of having only left Nigeria just recently while you have been living abroad since time immemorial    Tongue
ogalanya (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #97 on: February 18, 2008, 07:36 PM »

Dis law is not enforceable, imagine 3 tattered hungry looking olopas coming 2 arrest d bride & groom on their wedding day, with everybody around, i mean d law is utopian, characteristic of soludo's policies - d minimal kobo withdrawal stuff, d 1 digit stuff. Let d police arrest themselves first 4 abusing Nigerians, instead of arresting Nigerians 4 abusing d naira. Bullshit ! another case of mistaken priority,  d national assembly is legislating on dress code
bawomolo (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #98 on: February 18, 2008, 07:38 PM »

I do not know about you but I would rather we start doing things right way Now than continuing doing things the wrong way under the whole fear of having to pay more to get it right and near perfect once and for all.

doing things right includes proper etiquette when handling money. doing things right includes printing quality notes.  nigerians seem to have a trend of avoiding personal responsibility.  there's nothing bad extending the lifetime of a currency note by treating it property and enhancing circulation.
Kobojunkie
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #99 on: February 18, 2008, 07:39 PM »

Quote from: 4 Play on February 18, 2008, 07:35 PM
This is where we both differ,I don't believe our currency undergoes the same wear and tear as other countries.I believe we have a unique cultural habit of "roughhandling" the Naira notes.Now,not having any empirical study done on the issue available,we can argue whether this premise is true till infinity but that is my basic belief albeit supported by anecdotal evidence.

I guess its the consequence of having only left Nigeria just recently while you have been living abroad since time immemorial Tongue


see,  and now another person tries to assume to  know my personal life> na wa oo,  Actually if you must know, I was partly in Nigeria in December and will be back there in 2 weeks or so again. Please ask questions of people to understand their personal life instead of making assumptions that are based on nothing factual. You do not know me. I happen to understand that country just as much as the next man does. I do business down there and up here. I pay taxes there and here. I work with folks who are here and there. Come on!!!
Hot.Funmi (f)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #100 on: February 18, 2008, 07:40 PM »

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By 4him,
This is where we both differ,I don't believe our currency undergoes the same wear and tear as other countries.I believe we have a unique cultural habit of "roughhandling" the Naira notes.Now,not having any empirical study done on the issue available,we can argue whether this premise is true till infinity but that is my basic belief albeit supported by anecdotal evidence.

I guess its the consequence of having only left Nigeria just recently while you have been living abroad since time immemorial    

Wouldn't that be because we run a cash economy? If Nigerians form the habit of carrying their money in plastic cards, the dirty money issue will be done with besides, it will reduce the amount of money folks spray in parties.
just me (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #101 on: February 18, 2008, 07:43 PM »

I'm totally with KSA on this one. How can they ban spraying?
Kobojunkie
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #102 on: February 18, 2008, 07:44 PM »

Quote from: bawomolo on February 18, 2008, 07:38 PM
I do not know about you but I would rather we start doing things right way Now than continuing doing things the wrong way under the whole fear of having to pay more to get it right and near perfect once and for all.

doing things right includes proper etiquette when handling money. doing things right includes printing quality notes. nigerians seem to have a trend of avoiding personal responsibility. there's nothing bad extending the lifetime of a currency note by treating it property and enhancing circulation.


I agree both ways but trying to Force personal responsibility on people by ridding them of their right is not the way to go when it comes to dealing with the problem in my case. I am here in the United states of America, the reason I treat my notes better is not cause I am banned from treating the notes bad. Infact, I can go outside now and drop all my bills from my balcony and have them soak up in the ice and snow and even trampled and not a single person will call the cops on me for doing that. Infact, people will run out and pick up my bills and run off with them instead,  LMAO!!!!! You can not ban a baby for instance from pooping in it's Diaper as way of trying to teach the Baby to use the Potty whenever he has to go number two. You instead provide lessons and reasons why it is better to do it in the toilet than in his pants and with time, he will learn to do number two in the toilet. ( I just got done dealing with my niece in this).

Laws are not really meant to Force people into doing the right thing but are supposed to help people understand the boundaries that exist in a society. I mean think about it, if there is a law that demands all people go out to vote on election day, would people be as enthusiastic as they are this election year and celebrate their freedom as they do today?? ( I am speaking of in american by the way).
3viso (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #103 on: February 18, 2008, 07:49 PM »

               Please your highly welcome back.
spraying is a way we africans show off our stupidity.
  how can one spray money on public only to receive a mare praise when a bigger challenges awaits him behind.
          workers salary not paid bank loan still paying.
                tax no way, the road lead to his manssion has turn to mansion thing.
                          I see no sense in spraying.
Ajisafe
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #104 on: February 18, 2008, 08:01 PM »

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Could somebody tell me why KSA was not ashamed to publicly challange Soludo on this new law?   Or is spraying naira notes really our culture? If it is, is it not a very dirty culture we should abolish as Soludo is advocating?  "Nigeria" is in trouble.

@ nuso,

Mind you, KSA, said ", our culture." He was referring to "Our Yoruba Culture" -- and definitely not referring to you Ibos or whatever part of Nigeria you're from. IT IS OUR CULTURE.
nuzo (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #105 on: February 18, 2008, 08:15 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on February 18, 2008, 07:44 PM
You can not ban a baby for instance from pooping in it's Diaper as way of trying to teach the Baby to use the Potty whenever he has to go number two. You instead provide lessons and reasons why it is better to do it in the toilet than in his pants and with time, he will learn to do number two in the toilet. ( I just got done dealing with my niece in this).

Even though i don't see how  banning spraying of money should be compared to banning babies because they poop, i will still take the pains to relate them. Cry
Unlike kids who learn how and where to poop when provided with some lessons,  their adult counterparts in Nigeria have been provided with loads of lessons and informations from CBN and NOA times without numbers. Naija residents will confirm this to you. Any living Naija resident who denies this may not have been sincere with you.
Ajisafe
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #106 on: February 18, 2008, 08:19 PM »

That fake economist, Soludo, is not Yoruba, so he doesn't get the cultural sense of it. It's a culture thing.

And to those Yoruba kids on the forum joining the badwaggon of those bashing our Yoba way of life, I think you're all "omo ale."

Even in both Ibadan and Lagos Ibo guymen and other non-Yoruba have joined in the fever of spraying. Why? Because they want to belong. If it's such a "dirty culture" your Ibo merchants who think they have "arrived" would not have joined in the habit of public spraying. It's a Yoruba way of life, and nobody can take it away from us.

When Abubakar Atiku's first wife buried her mother, didn't the former vice president dance and spray at the night party in front of a multitude of party-goers? And the last time I checked Atiku was still Fulani. Apparently he caught the bug or vice versa by virtue of his marriage.
Kobojunkie
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #107 on: February 18, 2008, 08:21 PM »

Quote from: nuzo on February 18, 2008, 08:15 PM
Even though i don't see how  banning spraying of money should be compared to banning babies because they poop, i will still take the pains to relate them. Cry
Unlike kids who learn how and where to poop when provided with some lessons,  their adult counterparts in Nigeria have been provided with loads of lessons and informations from CBN and NOA times without numbers. Naija residents will confirm this to you. Any living Naija resident who denies this may not have been sincere with you.

Ummm,  again, you can not force people into personal responsibilty. I gave the baby example beleiving that people will also understand that it takes time and also example. But I guess I may have to spell it all out. If you go to the doctor's office, you may see a sign on the wall that says it may take anywhere from 3 months to 3 years to potty train your baby and you need to be patient and at the same time continue to provide the baby with lessons and push in the right direction. Again, putting up laws to ban people from expressing their right as way to make them handle is not the way I would handle it. Providing them with better notes and explaining to them how handling it better will save them money and the nation money in the long run would be a better way to go. But then again, why would I want to save the country money when more than half of the money goes in the pockets of thieves in the end, LMAO!!!!


This is Serious!!!!! LMAO!!!! There is a serious catch here,  Is there really reason for me to want to handle the naira better when most of the money saved will go in the hand of thieves as it has for decades in the past ???LMAO!!! Why should I care if the naira is handled right or wrong when the government wants to stifle me instead of dealing with the MAIN Issues out there. I mean Nigeria looses more money daily from corrupt leaders and thieves in the house but NOOOO,  instead SOludo wants to focus on banning the small man from spraying the little of the money he can get and be proud of . LMAO!!!! IN essense it is better to loot the money than to spray it. LMAO!!!

NIgerian looses billions to thieves and evil criminals but NOOO,  it is the small amount of money that get's trampled by mistake or at parties that we put up as the biggest issue to be dealt with and we need a law for. What about laws against looting and purnishments that they should face???
nuzo (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #108 on: February 18, 2008, 08:21 PM »

Quote from: Ajisafe on February 18, 2008, 08:01 PM
@ nuso,

Mind you, KSA, said ", our culture." He was referring to "Our Yoruba Culture" -- and definitely not referring to you Ibos or whatever part of Nigeria you're from. IT IS OUR CULTURE.

This is ignorance in a high order.
When did spraying become a yoruba culture?
When did KSA start speaking on behalf of the yorubas?
Even if he spoke for them, when did Naira become a yoruba property alone?

Meanwhile, my name is nuzo and not nuso. Didnt you see it?
Ajisafe
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #109 on: February 18, 2008, 08:32 PM »

Quote from: nuzo on February 18, 2008, 08:21 PM
This is ignorance in a high order.
When did spraying become a yoruba culture?
When did KSA start speaking on behalf of the yorubas?
Even if he spoke for them, when did Naira become a yoruba property alone?

Meanwhile, my name is nuzo and not nuso. Didnt you see it?

You're the buffon here, Nuzo. Spraying had been (and still remains entirely) a Yoruba culture ever before your Ibo forefathers crawled out of their rat infested hellhole. Oloriburuku Olosi.

Chief Osadebe went to the US to play live. I was told the Ibos and other non-Yoruba in attendance sprayed him (although they were not as good as the Yoruba) and the poor man enjoyed it.

Nuzo, Omo Ibo, where did I say that naira was "a [Y]oruba property alone"? Ko ni dara fun iyalaya re.
nuzo (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #110 on: February 18, 2008, 08:33 PM »

Quote from: Ajisafe on February 18, 2008, 08:19 PM
That fake economist, Soludo, is not Yoruba, so he doesn't get the cultural sense of it. It's a culture thing.

And to those Yoruba kids on the forum joining the badwaggon of those bashing our Yoba way of life, I think you're all "omo ale."

Even in both Ibadan and Lagos Ibo guymen and other non-Yoruba have joined in the fever of spraying. Why? Because they want to belong. If it's such a "dirty culture" your Ibo merchants who think they have "arrived" would not have joined in the habit of public spraying. It's a Yoruba way of life, and nobody can take it away from us.

When Abubakar Atiku's first wife buried her mother, didn't the former vice president dance and spray at the night party in front of a multitude of party-goers? And the last time I checked Atiku was still Fulani. Apparently he caught the bug or vice versa by virtue of his marriage.

A classic case of why Nigeria will find it hard to make a step forward; ignorance, stubbornness, ITK and tribalism.
What has brought the Igbo guys and Fulanis in this topic? I thought we were talking about Nigerians generally and their misuse of naira note and Igbos or Yorubas.
Soludo didn't make the law for only Yoruba people or money sprayers. He made it for the whole "Nigeria", especially for those who "rough handle it"
Ajisafe
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #111 on: February 18, 2008, 08:39 PM »

Quote from: nuzo on February 18, 2008, 08:33 PM
A classic case of why Nigeria will find it hard to make a step forward; ignorance, stubbornness, ITK and tribalism.
What has brought the Igbo guys and Fulanis in this topic? I thought we were talking about Nigerians generally and their misuse of naira note and Igbos or Yorubas.
Soludo didn't make the law for only Yoruba people or money sprayers. He made it for the whole "Nigeria", especially for those who "rough handle it"

Omo Ibo, me I no send you o. If you like make you go commit suicide.
nwando
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #112 on: February 18, 2008, 08:43 PM »

Quote from: nuzo on February 18, 2008, 08:33 PM
A classic case of why Nigeria will find it hard to make a step forward; ignorance, stubbornness, ITK and tribalism.
What has brought the Igbo guys and Fulanis in this topic? I thought we were talking about Nigerians generally and their misuse of naira note and Igbos or Yorubas.
Soludo didn't make the law for only Yoruba people or money sprayers. He made it for the whole "Nigeria", especially for those who "rough handle it"

don't mind the area boy.
It's all that knacking head for ground doing alakuba that's worrying him
when Yoruba people are talking,that arab wannabe will open mouth
Looks like an Igbo man has bought his fathers compound Grin
nuzo (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #113 on: February 18, 2008, 08:45 PM »

Quote from: Ajisafe on February 18, 2008, 08:32 PM
You're the buffon here, Nuzo. Spraying had been (and still remains entirely) a Yoruba culture ever before your Ibo forefathers crawled out of their rat infested hellhole. Oloriburuku Olosi.

Chief Osadebe went to the US to play live. I was told the Ibos and other non-Yoruba in attendance sprayed him (although they were not as good as the Yoruba) and the poor man enjoyed it.

Nuzo, Omo Ibo, where did I say that naira was "a [Y]oruba property alone"? Ko ni dara fun iyalaya re.

That i said you were ignorant and a tribalist does not mean i intend to insult you. I only responded according to your comment and your person.

I am not here to defend the Igbos or any other tribe that spray money, that's why i surpport the law. And what has Osadebe being sprayed got to do with me? Please i don't have any beef with you or any Yoruba person.
I just hope the law works. Whoever is caught wanting should be prosecuted, be it any tribe in Nigeria.
Big B1 (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #114 on: February 18, 2008, 08:46 PM »

What does spraying got to do with the value of Naira?
Soludo, a respectable Nigerian, but something terrible is severely wrong with his brain. Everybody will find one way or the other to deflect attention from what is important.

Instead of focusing on how to bring back the economy to life, this moron is busy tampering with popular Yoruba culture that has been around before his father.

We just don't get it; "culture" in Nigeria is one of the major factors that is still holding us together. We must never never mess with any of our culture (Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo); it doesn't matter, we must have respect for our culture.

Question for Mr.Soludo: Is it OK to spray Dollars ($) or Euro (€) instead of Naira (₦)?
nuzo (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #115 on: February 18, 2008, 08:46 PM »

@ajibade
 
I responded according to your comments and not your person.
nwando
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #116 on: February 18, 2008, 08:47 PM »

Quote from: Ajisafe on February 18, 2008, 08:19 PM
That fake economist, Soludo, is not Yoruba, so he doesn't get the cultural sense of it. It's a culture thing.

And to those Yoruba kids on the forum joining the badwaggon of those bashing our Yoba way of life, I think you're all "omo ale."

Even in both Ibadan and Lagos Ibo guymen and other non-Yoruba have joined in the fever of spraying. Why? Because they want to belong. If it's such a "dirty culture" your Ibo merchants who think they have "arrived" would not have joined in the habit of public spraying. It's a Yoruba way of life, and nobody can take it away from us.

When Abubakar Atiku's first wife buried her mother, didn't the former vice president dance and spray at the night party in front of a multitude of party-goers? And the last time I checked Atiku was still Fulani. Apparently he caught the bug or vice versa by virtue of his marriage.

and what exactly does Soludo's ethnicity have to do with this.
First you folks cried about arabic taken off naira notes,now spraying is your mother culture
what did they use?
cowrie shells?

I see your putrid hatred of Igbos in all your posts.
Get over it kiddo
You'll soon be a tenant in your own home Tongue
4 Play (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #117 on: February 18, 2008, 08:49 PM »

"Dem" don hijack this thread  Grin Wey Willy2,im dey miss action o!  Grin
Hot.Funmi (f)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #118 on: February 18, 2008, 08:50 PM »

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@ hot-funmi
               Please your highly welcome back.
spraying is a way we africans show off our stupidy.
   how can one spray money on public only to receive a lare praise when a bigger chalage awaits him behind.
           workers salary not paid bank loan still paying.
                 tax no way, the road lead to his manssion has turn to a another thing.
                           I see no sence in spraying.

Don't mind those that claim it's Yoruba culture.  If it's truly yoruba culture, then, we should be ashamed of it.
komekn (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #119 on: February 18, 2008, 08:51 PM »

 There is this tendency amongst officialdom to make decrees or create laws or supposed law, e.g. ban on indecent dressing in Lagos, Governor Ameachi claiming he will arrest relatives of militants, etc,etc.

On what legal basis or does Soludo have the right to enact laws in a sense superceding the legislature, i believe he can give directives with legal standing. However, it seems there is an attempt to create unlawful law that then becomes practice without legal basis.( consider how many ladies were harassed by Lagos police, before the police commissioner denied all) Huh

I am not in disagreement or agreement with this practice. Nonetheless, you cannot legislate against cultural preference or expression. Lips sealed
Ajisafe
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #120 on: February 18, 2008, 08:52 PM »

Quote from: nwando on February 18, 2008, 08:43 PM
don't mind the area boy.
It's all that knacking head for ground doing alakuba that's worrying him
when Yoruba people are talking,that arab wannabe will open mouth
Looks like an Igbo man has bought his fathers compound Grin

LOL! @ Nwando, once again, you amused me.

@ Nuzo,
If you and Soludo genuinely worried about people who '''rough handle it''' I think you need to address the issue in a way that will not adversely affect a certain people's culture -- in this case the Yoruba. The culprits here are those ignorant market women who "bury" naira notes inside of their voluptuously corseted breasts.
Hot.Funmi (f)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #121 on: February 18, 2008, 08:54 PM »

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By Ajisafe,
 nuso,

Mind you, KSA, said ", our culture." He was referring to "Our Yoruba Culture" -- and definitely not referring to you Ibos or whatever part of Nigeria you're from. IT IS OUR CULTURE.  
 

Which culture? when was paper money invented? very soon, you'll adopt 419 and drug dealing into our culture too. Don't push me please, if an ibo man took your girlfriend/wife, go settle it with him without dragging the yoruba's to mud because of your closed reasoning. Spraying money is not a yoruba culture by a long short. I am not sure of the origin but it must have been one of these learned attitudes we imbibe from God knows where.
Big B1 (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #122 on: February 18, 2008, 08:55 PM »

I will rest my case if Mr.Soludo could explain how this new law could affect the value of Naira positively.

If you think about it, spraying is part of spending, while spending keeps economy going.

Soludo is a pure moron; and he wouldn't have made such a simple-minded rule if he was a Yoruba-man.
Kobojunkie
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #123 on: February 18, 2008, 08:58 PM »

Quote from: Big B1 on February 18, 2008, 08:55 PM
I will rest my case if Mr.Soludo could explain how this new law could affect the value of Naira positively.
If you think about it, spraying is part of spending, while spending keeps economic going.

Soludo is a pure moron; and he wouldn't have made such a simple-minded rule if he was a Yoruba-man.

I would too but so far, all I have gotten is assumed impacts that spraying has on the economy and nothing substantial. It hurts me so that Nigerians would sit and watch this happen to them without demanding a more thorough explanation of his reasoning for this law.
mendax
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #124 on: February 18, 2008, 08:59 PM »

how does not sprayin money affect u negatively?
nuzo (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #125 on: February 18, 2008, 09:01 PM »

Quote from: Ajisafe on February 18, 2008, 08:39 PM
Omo Ibo, me I no send you o. If you like make you go commit suicide.

In as much as i no send you too, i no wish you bad.

Quote from: Ajisafe on February 18, 2008, 08:39 PM
If you like make you go commit suicide.
I wasnt the one sounding as if i was going to commit siucide. After all, the law has already been passed.

Quote from: Ajisafe on February 18, 2008, 08:52 PM
@ Nuzo,
If you and Soludo genuinely worried about people who '''rough handle it''' I think you need to address the issue in a way that will not adversely affect a certain people's culture -- in this case the Yoruba. The culprits here are those ignorant market women who "bury" naira notes inside of their voluptuously corseted breasts.

Most people have admitted that sprayers are part of the destroyers of naira note. So it will be very unfair to allow the law affect only market women and danfo drivers.
j-girl (f)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #126 on: February 18, 2008, 09:03 PM »

I kind of agree with Soludo - you wouldn't understand unless you handled some terribly dirty naira note Embarrassed Besides we need to respect our money a little better. I'm with him on the other "laws"

On the other hand, it is the Yoruba culture that spraying of money is a part of. Yoruba people spray dollars and pounds too - you don't see the US or the UK government complaining
Big B1 (m)
Re: "You Can't Ban Spraying, It's Our Culture" - KSA To Soludo
« #127 on: February 18, 2008, 09:04 PM »

Soludo should ask his brothers to stop sending 419 letters!
I think that would have a positive impact on Naira and Nigerian economy.

I rest my case!
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