Website Review, Anyone?

I need not hit the contact page to confirm that the title makes sense considering the url.


Well, you have the right to conclude anything about being on the attacking side. I thanked you for your comments and never attacked you, maybe you needed me to kneel down or prostrate before you understand that I am grateful for your comments.


I don't know who you are or who you represent considering the fact that this is your 4th post on this forum. Keep your advice to yourself please. I will not waste my time responding to your position on SEO as it is obvious you are one of those that spend their time chasing google around rather than focusing on your clients. Only you won't understand, submitting websites to google or search engines is a waste of time, I don't expect you to understand this because for you to you must understand the basics of crawlers.

Now you come with the usual stupid position that I attack people on nairaland even when I have never attacked anyone, however I have always responded to people in kind.

Put differently, if you attack me I will respond in kind, no apologies.

For the records, I have never claimed to be better than anyone in what I do from web programming, software to backup solutions. But it is beginning to look like quite a number of you out there have problems with my projects or my person for reasons best known to you guys.


Thanks for that comment, I agree completely however I will do so at a cost so it depends on the client to implement this one.


The content in bold refers could you state any 2 websites that have the same design?

I should forget about the clients? In business that is the fastest route to failure.

You job is to advice on features and functionalities not to insist on what the client doesn't want because the client is the one paying not you.

Where are the web designers if I may ask? I will rather build websites the way I build than gamble with web designers that often times find it difficult to put web pages together even when you have templates to copy.

I ask clients to visit sites like templatemonster.com and point to any design they like and I will replicate it. This remains the surest route.

I take God beg una, what my clients think or do is way too important to me as far as websites are concerned.

I do not advertise in the media and yet I get to build at least 2 websites per week not to talk about custom software applications for organizations so if these clients on their own contact me and insist I develop software or websites for them I think their satisfaction remains the most important parameter here.

Thanks for the comments. I have discussed with many web designers in my office and the conclusion is that many of them don't have what it takes to succeed in the web development industry as most of them think that money is the most important thing.

Any day I see a good web designer I will hire but I will certainly not gamble with my clients when it comes to web design.

Hi, Afam. Well, i've decided to reply to your comments even though my natural instincts are telling me to get off not only your thread but nairaland! Now for the benefit of those reading this thread, I will clarify some facts and 'not let sleeping dogs lie.'

First, in my comments, I jumped to a guess that people like you never learn. Well I think that guess was right! as exemplified by your ignorant and - (in your own words) - 'usual stupid' assumption on SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMISATION.


If I may ask, what do you mean by 'focusing on your clients'? Its a fact that google owns a 60% quota of the search engine market and it would be 'stupid' for anyone not to take them seriously. Of what use is a 'stupidly' designed site that doesn't show up in google search results? Anyways, let me educate everyone a bit. One of the major tasks of any web design outfit is to help their clients achieve their goals of reaching their target audiences and on the long run make more sales.  Now how can a website help raise a company's profit margin if no one finds it? or you thought the billboard in your village would do it?

Anyways to cut the long story short, seo is a major force to be reckoned with in the web development world and anyone serious about their clients must be serious about seo and trust me, thats the definition of client focused design! I would not go into details of seo as I'm sure you all can find that out yourself.

And just for you to know Afam, submitting sites to google has nothing to do with seo. Don't even try to educate me on crawlers cause that has nothing to do neither. These things you are talking about deal with getting your site indexed by search engines. SEO deals with things such as keyword research, keyword density, google pagerank algorithm, link building etc. Enough for y'all to feast on.

By the way, this is not to say that there are not some illegal approaches to seo (black hat seo techniques) which is another topic entirely!


Men! this one was quite funny. Now if its a usual position that u attack people, why not then retrace your steps. It might not be a 'stupid' position afterall. A million people can't be all wrong you know.

And in conclusion, whats happening here is not a competition. It is just an approach to improve standards in web design in Nigeria. We all complain that a lot of companies prefer to give their jobs to overseas agencies. Why would they not, when those guys help the companies achieve their goals better. So what we are saying here is if we can improve our standards, learn from others, not take everything as a competition and not jump to 'stupid' conclusions, then maybe these fellows would start to have faith in us. Thats not to say that there are not a lot of guys doing a good job out there.

@ Afam, I'm very sorry if I appeared offensive. SEO is a topic i am very passionate about and I guess that might have prompted my comments. By the way,  I really condem hypocricy, unhealthy rivalry and competition and if u've ever had any of these ideas from my posts, then i'm sorry. I guess we can go back to the focus of this thread now.

review of http://www.utalbuilding.com

The quote above was your first post directed at my person on this forum for no reasons at all.

If I don't welcome criticisms why would I post a website for review on a public forum?

I have openly and privately made it clear that I am not a web designer but a web programmer who would rather continue to setup websites the way I currently do than trust web designers that don't have portfolios I can trust, after all anyone can claim to be a great web designer and when put to test it becomes another story altogether.

Again, it is important to note that there is a world of difference between comments made about a website and personal attacks on the poster.

I respect your views on SEO but in my opinion not all websites need SEO.

Where do you search to find google on the net? What of yahoo or cnn?

Unless you are dealing on digital products having the world search for and locate your website will do you more harm than good, trust me.

wot's IMHO

I(n) M(y) H(umble) O(pinion)

I have never claimed my design was the best. Never will.

However, all my websites don't have broken links, are easy to navigate, are easy to read.

Do I have to hire a driver that does not even know how to start a car just to satisfy you? No.

Comments and suggestions must not be taken and so far it seems you can't swallow someone rejecting some of your silly suggestions, too bad, you are not my client so your thoughts don't matter on this issue.

Meanwhile, them forbid you to develop websites? Why not practice what you preach by leading the way abi your destiny na to dey abuse people wey no take your advice?

Do you know the meaning of getting defensive?

I post websites for reviews.

I get comments.

I accept some and reject some.

Now those that have their comments rejected take offense and begin to focus on my person.

I reply in kind and people like you begin to hypocritically complain.

My sites are mine so do not purge on behalf of others abeg.

@danteweb,

I spoke to someone who believed that the computer represents 666 and he claimed his pastor told him so and according to him if all the money in the world has to be made using the computer he wouldn't want to be part of it.

This man is very very rich anyway.

There are people who do not use the internet let alone depend on it for search.

That said, I agree that SEO makes sense for some websites and don't make sense for others.

How come yahoo and google became global brands? They focused on servicing the customers not trying to tailor their websites to suit another company's business model for example google.

It is not uncommon for website owners to provide information on their websites that first and foremost appeal to what google wants as regards search algorithm than content that should help convert prospective customers to paying clients or help service already existing customers.

I stated earlier that some businesses will simply embarrass themselves by making themselves found on google, I will use an example to explain.

Let us imagine that XYZ Company deals on ladies shoes. Let us also assume that the typical inventory being maintained by this country is just enough for 30 people in any typical week.

Now a website that could bring in 1000s of potential customers would do this business more harm than good because the business will have to disappoint about 9,970 people because it can only satisfy 30 people in any given week.

So, while SEO makes sense in some cases there are web projects or companies that cannot benefit from it not because SEO is bad but because by default SEO cannot help them.

Trust me companies like Utal spend time developing brochures that they mail to high profile clients. See the list of their clients and you will understand what I am talking about.

Do not also forget that some people go online just because friends and competitors are doing so.

Thanks for reading thus far. My opinions, feel free to discard them.

1. @ the man who believes the computer represents 666, does he keep all his money at home or at the bank. If he uses the bank then he'd better tell
them not to check his account balance using the computer.

2. I've never seen a company who's got too much customers. When companies attain a high client base, what they do is to expand, not reject the customers.

3. Its good to mail brochures to prospective clients but why would someone want to keep all their eggs in one basket? With search engines, businesses reach their target markets cause a user would not click on a link if he/she is not interested in it, so the conversion ratio is high. In conventional marketing, you target people who you think / hope would need your services and thats got a very low conversion ratio!

4. If I go online cause others are doing so, there is a probability that I might stumble on something that interests me and then I become someone's customer!

5. You said yahoo and google became global brands by servicing their customers. My argument is this. First they tried to get the customers before servicing them. If you don't have customers, then you are going to service empty air!

He was clutching a mobile phone as he was speaking and I asked him if he thought he was communicating with people thousands of miles away using juju.


I have. www.justalternativepower.com is my alternative energy website and on the website I stated that we cannot handle orders until next month because of the sheer number of people that want our inverters, about 50% of them from this forum alone.

Expanding is easy to talk about but in any specialist field getting relevant and intelligent people is really not easy especially when you offer 1 year warranty on all your inverters. Just had a meeting with two clients this afternoon that agreed to wait for 2 more weeks even when the money will be made available tomorrow.


The company decides what it wants to do. I doubt if any company will change its business process without top management buy in.


Well, this is for the client who decides to go online just because others are.


Did they get to use google to become global brands? No. I cannot remember seeing yahoo advertise on NTA before I knew what yahoo was doing. Every good product sells itself real good. Google is making money by doing with it does well. Others are also doing well by doing what they do well. Coca cola makes millions every day and I am sure the web or google does not have a great deal to do with that.




1. You want me to go back to school to learn how to design 800+ static websites? No, I will not. I will leave your type to become experts on that one.

2. New career when I run 2 successful companies I started from scratch? Trust me.

You were bragging about the 800+ static website you designed for one university, what happened? Have they finally realized that you were a complete moron and given the website to a better person to manage?

Guy, people like you will design and even upload full websites with their mouths even when they don't know the difference between static and dynamic websites.

VERY POOR DESIGN.

Reason: So that people like you will get busy facing your own businesses rather than trying to hang on what I do which by the way people pay for.

I am beginning to sense frustration on the part of some of you who are hell bent on Afam changing his design even when you are allowed to pretend that your designs are better.

So, as long as people pay for my services I will keep making money, I also hope that those of you that are excellent designers make enough money rather than complaining all the time.

E yaa, it seems that some people find it difficult to live with the fact that I must not take their advice, sorry, can't do much to help you.

In any case, your line of reasoning is petty and I would be surprised if you are not really petty in real life.

I guess people should not be guided as regards what they choose to reply to.

This forum gives everyone the opportunity to air his/her views no matter how reasonable or stupid.

The good thing is that when people end up exposing themselves as narrow minded people they lack the courage to even contribute meaningfully.

Na people like this go claim say anybody wey get good moto or house na juju man/woman instead of trying to better themselves. Pity.

Hey i forgot to chip this in, and rather than edit my quote, i decide a new post,

Young man, are you too dumb to know what a web manager is, or even an in house webmaster, 

well its someone who manages the content of an existing website, and by manages i mean, update, add, edit, create, delete contents and more.
And as stupid as you may seem, why would i look for a webmaster to come redesign my work.

You know what? ive decided to write one of your clients a revamp proposal of one of your dirty works and guess what? il be duin it for free,  because im so sure they just might not be able to afford me. if you've got the ball, list out any of your jobs, letme choose the one il revamp,   

as jobless as the assembly might seem, your case would be the first that would involve flogging the person who proposed such senseless bill.

And okon or is it mumu, sry afam, FYI my 800 pages is dymanic, its been dynamic for some months now. by the way i think you should check the site.

still waiting for your list,