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doyin13 (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #128 on: February 27, 2008, 07:18 AM »

Kobokobo. . . .you and this your ephemeral 'people'

people don't cause radical change. . . .

small cliques of motivated individuals do. . . .

Unfortunately the ones we have been dealt are masturbating bastards.
Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #129 on: February 27, 2008, 07:23 AM »

Quote from: doyin13 on February 27, 2008, 07:18 AM
Kobokobo. . . .you and this your ephemeral 'people'

people don't cause radical change. . . .

small cliques of motivated individuals do. . . .

Unfortunately the ones we have been dealt are masturbating bastards.

But when I say people, I am refering to the small groups of people, in Nigeria and abroad who are right now working hard to see to it that things change. One thing we have learnt is that to change things in Nigeria, you do not necessarily need to have number on your side from the start but you can influence the people if you are able to offer them much change to cause them to go your way. I know of a particular group who were just recently able to get  a bill passed in that country. With more groups like that, we can see to it that the trend in that country shifts to our favour in that political arena and then overall.
doyin13 (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #130 on: February 27, 2008, 07:30 AM »

hmm. . .that one make more sense

i have always thought the diaspora can exert significant influence on how things are run back home

Excluding awon oni jibiti of course
adusco (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #131 on: February 27, 2008, 08:50 AM »

a thief can never arrest athief.they all rigged the election but the lucky person was appointed and not voted for.i wish Yaradua goodluck
ojesymsym
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #132 on: February 27, 2008, 09:11 AM »

In terms of credibility, Buhari is far more credible than the others. You can have other issues against him, but not when it comes to credibility, honesty, personnal dislike to corruption, purpose, steadfastness (even when other left him alone) and a firm belief that things can and should work.
Backslider (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #133 on: February 27, 2008, 09:46 AM »

@sky blue

In governance there must be continuity. What has helped Ghana is continuity. We must be seen to continue it gives people confidence. We have to perfect ourselves also.

If we speak about mistakes made in the previous eletion what makes you so sure that if it was anulled the next one will not have the same problem?

I don't think you will like to be the Appeal court Judge to annull that election because you will put the lives of so many people at stake.
Sky Blue
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #134 on: February 27, 2008, 10:47 AM »

@ Backslider, i think i might make this my last post on this thread because i am tired of repeating myself. Ghana had a form of revolution in the case of Rawlings to set a new status quo. Why have people come to believe running election is rocket science? Get CCTV and do it something like 3 or 4 states at a time and beef up security around polling stations, but why would politicians want a good electoral system when it would mean no more wide scale mandate robbery and rigging? But if continuity is what you want then that is what we have gotten, as i have said before, with this ruling everything remains thesame and the status quo remains, its business as usual. God Bless
Nigeria1.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #135 on: February 27, 2008, 02:40 PM »

I disagree with most of you, Yar Adua like I once said won the election, you just have to study the satellite picture of nigeria and you would see it was impoosible for Buhari or Atiku to have won. Look buhari and Atiku were believing the falsified census figure  from MR Makama which made it difficult for them to believe Yar Adua won. If you look at the Satellite picture careful you would see that area the PDP was stong had more poeple than where ANPP or AC were strong.

And places like Yorubaland apart from lagos would have voted for president Yar Adua 99% which is the bulk vote the Yorubas were used to because of the Obasanjo Factor. and the PDP had a bette network why their only rival AD was already splitted into 5 parties or more. AD, AC, DPP AA etc,

and when you inpost  all major cities in the north were Buhari and Atiku were strong into Ibadan only from satellite picture , you know Yar Adua won the election.

I believe it is time for Buhari and Atiku to give up just for a better Nigeria. It makes investment better for us if they do not go to the supreme court. It also give Yar Adua time to rule Nigeria well.
I  think this is a lesson for the opposition, everybody can not be president,  and most of this opposition are not strong.
Nigeria today has only one party, which the PDP, like PDP would say, PDP power.
Obasanjo and ali strong no nonsense and his willing to kick out rebel from the party  help them to become strong.  If you notice most of this opposition were once member of the PDP but became they became greed, they were kick out.  And I do believe PDP people are more pushing than other party. Why I do I say that, I run this http://ThisGlobe.com and I would tell you that I get calls from PDP big men and to run PDP things, but I do not see the other party do the same. The PDP from my meeting some of them are like members of the Mafia. they cover themself. I do not know how to explain it in words. They hold their party high .

I wish President Yar Adua the best. And I hope he take us  into the promises land. And I do believe President Yar Adua can talk and take us to the promises land, if he put in his best and good people come around and drop their proud for the progress of Nigeria.
almondjoy (f)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #136 on: February 27, 2008, 03:02 PM »

Quote from: Nigeria1. on February 27, 2008, 02:40 PM


And places like Yorubaland apart from lagos would have voted for president Yar Adua 99% which is the bulk vote the Yorubas were used to because of the Obasanjo Factor. and the PDP had a better network why their only rival AD was already splitter into 5 parties or more. AD, AC, DPP AA etc,

and when you inpost  all major cities in the north were Buhari and Atiku were strong into Ibadan only from satellite picture , you know Yar Adua won the election.

I believe it is time for Buhari and Atiku to give up just for a better Nigeria.

It makes invest better for us if they do not go to the supreme court. It also give Yar Adua time to rule Nigeria well.

I  think this is a lesson for the opposition, everybody can not be president,  and most of this opposition are not strong.
Nigeria today has only one party, which the PDP, like PDP would say, PDP power.
Obasanjo and ali strong no nonsense and his willing to kick out rebel from the party  help them to become strong.  If you notice most of this opposition were once member of the PDP but became they became greed, they were kick out.

I wish President Yar Adua the best. And I hope he take us  into the promises land.

And I do believe President Yar Adua can talk and take us to the promises land, if he put in his best and good people come around and drop their proud for the progress of Nigeria.

I wonder how Yaradua would have won the elections when he was not even aware he was contesting. One year after the so called elections, this "Forest Gump" a.k.a Yaradua remains visionless! May parts of the country are still switching and baiting governors, interrupting the affairs of the country. While we are being distracted by all these, who is minding the affairs of the country? Undecided  We might all just wake up one day to find we need help to write off debts from the "Lebanese and Morrocan" clubs.  We have not finished with the Paris and English clubs if I may remind Nigerians.

Okay, I am willing to put all that behind me, but you are making it extremely difficult to do just that with all you are writing here, lying to yourself. I am all the continuity of the Nigerian governing or misgoverning body.  But we must look at the situations for what they are so we can really find some solutions to our "Nigerian Problems"!

Yaradua did not win any elections.  He was handed the baton from OBJ according to the Arewa-Oduduwa Corruption Accord. Yes!  The Yoruba-Hausa Corruption Mafia Peace Treaty.  I am willing to forgive all that for Nigeria's sake--Because I believe with what we have around us today in Nigeria, we can work something out. If only the people will wake up and hold these people accountable, instead of hero-worshipping them when they come to visit their villages.  Too many shake-ups will not do Nigeria any good, especially when we understand how these old lepers and young buffoons got to power in the first place.  We don't even have a few good men to replace what we have right now.

The main issues Nigerians have now is "how to make lemonade out of this lemon of a Yaradua" we have now. 
Prince22
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #137 on: February 27, 2008, 03:14 PM »

I don't Like politicking but sensible about it
I don't like PDP ENGINEERING OF PRESENT NIGERIA CRISIS by Mr BOT ' Basket of Trouble
I like Yar-adua for a person of being cool Headed
I will like him to work with those that has wisdom
I will prefer he settle Illumination problem in city because of petty traders that leaves through light
If not in a short well Nigerians will run Back fast from loving him.
naijaking1
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #138 on: February 27, 2008, 03:15 PM »

@Almondjoy
Strong words.
Nigeria1.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #139 on: February 27, 2008, 03:17 PM »

mr boy,  see  this topic on satellite picture and you would know President Yar Adua won. Stop believe Makama fraud census figures.

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-35352.0.html
Koolking (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #140 on: February 27, 2008, 03:28 PM »

"Violations of the electoral law not substantial enough to invalidate election result, Umaru Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan remain validly eletected as President and Vice President of Nigeria"                  - COURT

In the light of the above comment made by the court to consolidates it ruling on the Presidential Election Tribunal, Please, can someone explain to me what 'Electoral Laws' are for? Why wasting time making the laws when Politicans and the so called INEC/Court do not take into cognizance that the law existence. I don't believe in the validity and legitimacy of the judgment passed by the court. Even from the genesis of that tribunal, I forsaw the 'THE POWER OF INCUMBENCY' over-riding others.

Its pathetic, the nation wept,
Babarigo
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #141 on: February 27, 2008, 04:26 PM »

I thank God for the ruling. Whatever happens, if the election is to be annuled, the supreme will do it so let us keep on wiating for the day Nigeria will be liberated from the shackkles of poverty and slavery. Amen.

One love
Dis Guy
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #142 on: February 27, 2008, 04:47 PM »

Quote from: Koolking on February 27, 2008, 03:28 PM
"Violations of the electoral law not substantial enough to invalidate election result, Umaru Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan remain validly eletected as President and Vice President of Nigeria"                  - COURT

In the light of the above comment made by the court to consolidates it ruling on the Presidential Election Tribunal, Please, can someone explain to me what 'Electoral Laws' are for? Why wasting time making the laws when Politicans and the so called INEC/Court do not take into cognizance that the law existence. I don't believe in the validity and legitimacy of the judgment passed by the court. Even from the genesis of that tribunal, I forsaw the 'THE POWER OF INCUMBENCY' over-riding others.

Its pathetic, the nation wept,

well thats why the matter was in court and the learned fellows passed a judgement based on the law, so what else you want?  Undecided

nation wept? I think there should be a poll, I reckon most nigerians were happy/satisfied with the ruling, 85% of the people interviewed on tv yesterday were happy/satisified, the others wanted a re-run though they still expect yaradua to win  Wink
n_delta (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #143 on: February 27, 2008, 04:59 PM »

time will tell
Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #144 on: February 27, 2008, 05:06 PM »

Quote from: Koolking on February 27, 2008, 03:28 PM
"Violations of the electoral law not substantial enough to invalidate election result, Umaru Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan remain validly eletected as President and Vice President of Nigeria"                  - COURT

In the light of the above comment made by the court to consolidates it ruling on the Presidential Election Tribunal, Please, can someone explain to me what 'Electoral Laws' are for? Why wasting time making the laws when Politicans and the so called INEC/Court do not take into cognizance that the law existence. I don't believe in the validity and legitimacy of the judgment passed by the court. Even from the genesis of that tribunal, I forsaw the 'THE POWER OF INCUMBENCY' over-riding others.

Its pathetic, the nation wept,

Dude ,  what is your source for this statement?? That is strong stuff right there. For anyone else who does not know when electoral laws are violated, the elections become null and void. That is what the law means and the courts are not to make rulings based on their personal feelings but on what the law says. Please, people, we need to educate ourselves on what the job of the judges are? They are not to change the laws anyway they want, they are to UPHOLD THE LAW. Hence, IF ELECTORAL LAWS WERE VIOLATED IN THE SELECTION PROCESS, THE ELECTION BECOMES NULL AND VOID AKA ILLEGAL AND SHOULD BE SCRAPPED.

Please let us not make the mistakes other countries have made in the past. We should learn right now to know what role the judges are to play and what role they can not play. No matter how intellectual sound you may ASSUME them to be, do not believe they are ABOVE THE LAW. THE JUDGES ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW, THEIR JOB IS TO UPHOLD THE LAW.
MP007 (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #145 on: February 27, 2008, 05:24 PM »

am sure nobody is surprised in here, word?, word!
Mariory (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #146 on: February 27, 2008, 07:27 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on February 27, 2008, 05:06 PM
Dude ,  what is your source for this statement?? That is strong stuff right there. For anyone else who does not know when electoral laws are violated, the elections become null and void.

That would depend on what the Electoral Law specifies. Breaking specific electoral laws may not guarantee an automatic annulment of the election.
I haven't read the laws myself nor have I read the full transcript of the judgment but, it seems to me (going by the ruling given by the Judge) that the laws that were broken did not require the elections to be null and void.
Nigeria1.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #147 on: February 27, 2008, 07:42 PM »

I disagree again, I do believe there is no need for buhari and Atiku to go to the supreme court, they never won. Look I am very busy ,  and I would prove my point using maths, I would be back to do that ,  that is was impossible for Atiku and buhari to have won , I would prove why President Yar Adua won using maths.  Look apart from Prof Utomi he was in the small party, their was no other candidate that was worth voting for. we all know that. So somebody making claim he won, is not fair. Yes our election system is not state of the art, but we should all agree that if the election was even conducted in the USA,  President Yar Adua would still have won. I am Yoruba and not a Fulani man.

http://ThisGlobe.com
Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #148 on: February 27, 2008, 07:48 PM »

Quote from: Mariory on February 27, 2008, 07:27 PM
That would depend on what the Electoral Law specifies. Breaking specific electoral laws may not guarantee an automatic annulment of the election.
I haven't read the laws myself nor have I read the full transcript of the judgment but, it seems to me (going by the ruling given by the Judge) that the laws that were broken did not require the elections to be null and void.

Let me get your logic here. There are some laws that can be broken without consequence?? I asked the guy for reason

 
Quote from: Koolking on February 27, 2008, 03:28 PM
"Violations of the electoral law not substantial enough to invalidate election result, Umaru Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan remain validly eletected as President and Vice President of Nigeria"                  - COURT

There are electoral laws that can be broken without consequence?? WOW,  why then have the laws? Anywho, I still wait to get source information on this post of yours @Koolking,  I really would like to learn more of where this came from and more.
Nigeria1.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #149 on: February 27, 2008, 08:11 PM »

And mr almondjoy, who claim Yorubas force President Yar Adua on you, who other on that presidential election list can a NORMAL person vote for, apart from Pat utomi who knows his fact but made a mistake, he went to the wrong party. The other candidates just wanted to be president like chieftaincy title. Becoming a president is not like becoming a chief in Igboland or hausa or yorubaland.

Even if the Yorubas force President Yar Adua on you, did they not do it through their votes.

mr almondjoy see satellite picture of Ibadan, lagos,  and kano,  and tell me, how on earth did  Buhari won the election.



This is Ibadan from satellite,  you can compare it to kano and katsina , 
http://wikimapia.org/#y=7380000&x=3930000&z=15&l=0&m=s

Lagos
http://wikimapia.org/#y=6642112&x=3279419&z=17&l=0&m=s


Kano satellite picture.
http://wikimapia.org/#y=12000000&x=8520000&z=13&m=s

Katsina  satellite picture.
http://wikimapia.org/#y=13000000&x=7600000&z=13&m=s
 
halimababe
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #150 on: February 27, 2008, 08:54 PM »



i just want to congratulate president Yaradua and PDP. now that its all over, please i want the president to settle down and solve our problems. we need constant electricity, we are tired of burning diesel and fuel, servicing generators. the sitaution is so bad, yet we watch as our elected leaders squader our resources basicly by using such funds for meeting their own needs, its a shame.

the government needs to create more jobs or provide youths with the funds to start their own business,  we have the money,

as for Atiku and Buhari, please join hands with mr president, lets move this nation forward, we are all tired of petitions, we need a revolution.

halima
AlfaPrime
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #151 on: February 27, 2008, 09:53 PM »

@Kobojunkie
You know, Kobo and Mariory, this is my greatest headache in the whole saga. How then do we know which laws have to be infringed before an election can be annuled? If such a serious flaw as using un-serialised ballot papers could not warrant annulment, then what could?Huh?

Sad, sad, sad.
Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #152 on: February 27, 2008, 09:59 PM »

Quote from: AlfaPrime on February 27, 2008, 09:53 PM
@Kobojunkie
You know, Kobo and Mariory, this is my greatest headache in the whole saga. How then do we know which laws have to be infringed before an election can be annuled? If such a serious flaw as using un-serialised ballot papers could not warrant annulment, then what could?Huh?

Sad, sad, sad.

I am not even arguing for Annulment but for the process to provide the people with more information on what actually happened. I do not know much of the details of the petition that launched this investigation but if the court actually made a statement that laws were violated, how can there be no consequence?? How can there be laws without consequence in Nigeria? To come out and make such a statement, I would expect that some consequence should follow. Election officials get fired for this and the public get inside information on why not to expect an annulment. 
Nigeria1.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #153 on: February 27, 2008, 11:30 PM »

I think all of your problem is cause by Mr Makama who falsified census figure. I wonder why nobody have arrested him for deciet of Nigerian,  That why is worry Atiku and Buhari,  until someone show mr Makama why he should not lie. Atiku and Buhari would fight on.


I think I would suggest to president Yar Adua  to introduce a offer of zero Tax free to oil company who spend 70% of their revenue in nigeria building refinery  and power station.

If was him WOULD BUILD A NEW FEDERAL CAPITAL.




Dis Guy
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #154 on: February 27, 2008, 11:47 PM »

Quote
"Violations of the electoral law not substantial enough to invalidate election result, Umaru Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan remain validly eletected as President and Vice President of Nigeria"                  - COURT

or you meant

"Violations of the electoral law not substantiated enough to invalidate election result, Umaru Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan remain validly eletected as President and Vice President of Nigeria"                  - COURT

voilà  Grin
almondjoy (f)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #155 on: February 28, 2008, 04:23 AM »

Quote from: Nigeria1. on February 27, 2008, 08:11 PM
And mr almondjoy, who claim Yorubas force President Yar Adua on you, who other on that presidential election list can a NORMAL person vote for, apart from Pat utomi who knows his fact but made a mistake, he went to the wrong party. The other candidates just wanted to be president like chieftaincy title. Becoming a president is not like becoming a chief in Igboland or hausa or yorubaland.

Even if the Yorubas force President Yar Adua on you, did they not do it through their votes.

mr almondjoy see satellite picture of Ibadan, lagos,  and kano,  and tell me, how on earth did  Buhari won the election.



This is Ibadan from satellite,  you can compare it to kano and katsina , 
http://wikimapia.org/#y=7380000&x=3930000&z=15&l=0&m=s

Lagos
http://wikimapia.org/#y=6642112&x=3279419&z=17&l=0&m=s


Kano satellite picture.
http://wikimapia.org/#y=12000000&x=8520000&z=13&m=s

Katsina  satellite picture.
http://wikimapia.org/#y=13000000&x=7600000&z=13&m=s
 

Are you for real or is your mind away4real? Cheesy  I can't get passed the fact that there have NEVER been elections held in Nigeri so I will have to apologize for botrhering you at all.  Warmest regards. Kiss

Quote from: halimababe on February 27, 2008, 08:54 PM

i just want to congratulate president Yaradua and PDP. now that its all over, please i want the president to settle down and solve our problems. we need constant electricity, we are tired of burning diesel and fuel, servicing generators. the sitaution is so bad, yet we watch as our elected leaders squader our resources basicly by using such funds for meeting their own needs, its a shame.

the government needs to create more jobs or provide youths with the funds to start their own business, we have the money,

as for Atiku and Buhari, please join hands with mr president, lets move this nation forward,

we are all tired of petitions, we need a revolution.

halima

Amen to that!  Some of us do not really care how much water has passed under the bridge.   Let them just WORK for a change.

Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #156 on: February 28, 2008, 04:30 AM »

Quote from: Dis Guy on February 27, 2008, 11:47 PM
or you meant

"Violations of the electoral law not substantiated enough to invalidate election result, Umaru Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan remain validly eletected as President and Vice President of Nigeria" - COURT

voilà Grin

yeah,  we can go ahead and do this with all other problems we have in nigeria and it will all go away when we play semantics,  right?? YEEHAW!!! Disguy just solved Nigeria's many problems!!
Dis Guy
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #157 on: February 28, 2008, 04:36 AM »

why don't you provide a link to his comment then!!!

HURRAY!!!! here comes the our kobojunkie, he can transform nigeria in just two years- the main action man!

Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #158 on: February 28, 2008, 04:41 AM »

Quote from: Dis Guy on February 28, 2008, 04:36 AM
why don't you provide a link to his comment then!!!

HURRAY!!!! here comes the our kobojunkie, he can transform nigeria in just two years- the main action man!



You mean you idea of simply transforming Nigeria in less than a day by simple twisting words instead of asking for proof of statetments made is genius?? WOOHOO!!! If you read up there you will see that I have been asking the dude for source of his comment. READ please.!!! By the way, if you actually knew Nigeria, you would know that transformation is possible in even a year, it is just to find the right people to get the job done that has ALWAYS and I say ALWAYS been the problem. We have the resources, he have the laws in place, we have manpower, we just do not have the right people in leadership to get the job done. Any person who knows Nigeria will know this has been our fact for decades now.
Dis Guy
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #159 on: February 28, 2008, 04:57 AM »

well he couldn't provide a link the judgement was passed live on t.v that what i heard or made up  Grin if you are having pms sorry mate  Wink

Quote
By the way, if you actually knew Nigeria, you would know that transformation is possible in even a year, it is just to find the right people to get the job done that has ALWAYS and I say ALWAYS been the problem. We have the resources, he have the laws in place, we have manpower, we just do not have the right people in leadership to get the job done. Any person who knows Nigeria will know this has been our fact for decades now.

we don't have the right people/leadership and  we don't have the all the laws in place therefore we can't fix it in one year
Malaysia, Singapore and all those countries didn't just click their fingers; they went through the process

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