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Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #160 on: February 28, 2008, 05:00 AM »

Quote from: Dis Guy on February 28, 2008, 04:57 AM
well he couldn't provide a link the judgement was passed live on t.v that what i heard or made up Grin if you are having pms sorry mate Wink

we don't have the right people/leadership and we don't have the all the laws in place therefore we can't fix it in one year
Malaysia, Singapore and all those countries didn't just click their fingers; they went through the process



well,  I am glad you are entitled to your opinion ,as I am. If you cannot prove my "change Nigeria in two years or no matter how long" plan is not feasible and all you have to offer me is made up stuff plus jabs at me and my state, I say we call this a day cause I prefer to focus on discussing with people on my level when it comes to things like this ( and you are also allowed to assume whichever way you want on what level I am on.
papabaks (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #161 on: February 28, 2008, 09:09 AM »

Thanks GOD Yar'adua Won, so it's time to YARA GBA ADUA, meaning it's time to PRAY favently.


papa
lawma (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #162 on: February 28, 2008, 01:06 PM »

what we saw is what would have happend if any other person is there. As long as we still have all those 1960's political in this our government i don't imagine our nation moving ahead. is there no age for retirement in Nigeria anymore. All we need is new generation
Nigeria1.
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #163 on: February 28, 2008, 02:19 PM »

mr boy election did take place. i  know from information. it may not be prefect but it did. And How do you expect me to support Atiku or Buhari, when they went to court claiming that in 29 states that there was no election. First of all, that is a lie. How do you expect nigerian to make  liers president. If they have claim some state have problem, i hear but 29 states,  No election,  that tell you the type of people you are dealing with. We need a sincere leader not liers.


I would say again even if the Yorubas force President Yar Adua on you, did they not do it through their votes.

mr almondjoy see satellite picture of Ibadan, lagos,  and kano,  and tell me, how on earth did  Buhari won the election.

check http://Thisglobe.com more pictures

This is Ibadan from satellite,  you can compare it to kano and katsina , 
http://wikimapia.org/#y=7380000&x=3930000&z=15&l=0&m=s

Lagos
http://wikimapia.org/#y=6642112&x=3279419&z=17&l=0&m=s


Kano satellite picture.
http://wikimapia.org/#y=12000000&x=8520000&z=13&m=s

Katsina  satellite picture.
http://wikimapia.org/#y=13000000&x=7600000&z=13&m=s
 
almondjoy (f)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #164 on: February 28, 2008, 02:50 PM »

Quote from: Nigeria1. on February 28, 2008, 02:19 PM
mr boy election did take place. i  know from information. it may not be prefect but it did. And How do you expect me to support Atiku or Buhari, when they went to court claiming that in 29 states that there was no election. First of all, that is a lie. How do you expect nigerian to make  liers president. If they have claim some state have problem, i hear but 29 states,  No election,  that tell you the type of people you are dealing with. We need a sincere leader not liers.

I would say again even if the Yorubas force President Yar Adua on you, did they not do it through their votes.

mr almondjoy see satellite picture of Ibadan, lagos,  and kano,  and tell me, how on earth did  Buhari won the election.
check http://Thisglobe.com more pictures

This is Ibadan from satellite,  you can compare it to kano and katsina , 
http://wikimapia.org/#y=7380000&x=3930000&z=15&l=0&m=s

Lagos
http://wikimapia.org/#y=6642112&x=3279419&z=17&l=0&m=s


Kano satellite picture.
http://wikimapia.org/#y=12000000&x=8520000&z=13&m=s

Katsina  satellite picture.
http://wikimapia.org/#y=13000000&x=7600000&z=13&m=s
 

Na wah for you ooooooooooooooooooh! Cheesy  I am "typeless" at this point! Cry

What is the purpose of showing me all these "arial bushes"? Undecided
Mariory (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #165 on: February 28, 2008, 03:07 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on February 28, 2008, 04:41 AM
Let me get your logic here. There are some laws that can be broken without consequence?? I asked the guy for reason

There are electoral laws that can be broken without consequence?? WOW,  why then have the laws?

No what I meant is, the consequences for breaking specific electoral laws may not necessarily mean the annulment of the entire presidential election process. The consequences may be reruns in affected areas, or invalidation of the results in affected areas.

That is what I meant.
coolier (f)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #166 on: February 29, 2008, 12:12 PM »

The guy admitted himself openly and it was reported in all the national and international newspapers  that the elections (including his - presidential)were not free and fair, and that the they were marred with a lot of electoral malpractices.

That to me is enough reason to nullify his result and call for another presidential election.
A-40 (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #167 on: February 29, 2008, 12:33 PM »

Did those guys really think Yaradua would lose in court? if they did then they really need to get their heads examined
emiemi (f)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #168 on: February 29, 2008, 03:51 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on February 28, 2008, 05:00 AM
well,  I am glad you are entitled to your opinion ,as I am. If you cannot prove my "change Nigeria in two years or no matter how long" plan is not feasible and all you have to offer me is made up stuff plus jabs at me and my state, I say we call this a day cause I prefer to focus on discussing with people on my level when it comes to things like this ( and you are also allowed to assume whichever way you want on what level I am on.
Kobojunkie, u are such a cool guy. I like the way you handled disguy'. Very maturedly and your analyses of the discussion are very sound.

To the issue at hand, how do we actually get the small group of people that would effect the change that is needed in this country? I agree that this country can change in just two years if only we can get the right people into positions of leadership. A typical example though on a small scale is NAFDAC. I believe we had the body in existence before the woman came on the scene and just look around at the accomplishment. Then we can imagine that for every position of leadership, we have someone that can create a positive change, that means the country will experience an uphill movement economically within a short period of time.

 Forums / Politics / Re: Help: Will This Country Get Better?
Koolking (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #169 on: February 29, 2008, 06:29 PM »

"Violations of the electoral law not substantial enough to invalidate election result, Umaru Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan remain validly eletected as President and Vice President of Nigeria"                  - COURT

, this quote was gotten from Daily Independent Newspaper (one of Nigeria's National Dailies) of 27th Feb, 2008 Pg 1 (front page).

I thought the judge who passed the judgement was learned, how come he made such a brainless interpretation of law. History will reward them.
Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #170 on: March 01, 2008, 12:31 AM »

Quote from: Koolking on February 29, 2008, 06:29 PM
"Violations of the electoral law not substantial enough to invalidate election result, Umaru Yar'Adua and Goodluck Jonathan remain validly eletected as President and Vice President of Nigeria" - COURT

, this quote was gotten from Daily Independent Newspaper (one of Nigeria's National Dailies) of 27th Feb, 2008 Pg 1 (front page).

I thought the judge who passed the judgement was learned, how come he made such a brainless interpretation of law. History will reward them.


Thanks @KoolKing. If a judge actually made such a statement then I do believe he owes the Nigerian people an explanation.


Quote from: emiemi on February 29, 2008, 03:51 PM
Kobojunkie, u are such a cool guy. I like the way you handled disguy'. Very maturedly and your analyses of the discussion are very sound.

To the issue at hand, how do we actually get the small group of people that would effect the change that is needed in this country? I agree that this country can change in just two years if only we can get the right people into positions of leadership. A typical example though on a small scale is NAFDAC. I believe we had the body in existence before the woman came on the scene and just look around at the accomplishment. Then we can imagine that for every position of leadership, we have someone that can create a positive change, that means the country will experience an uphill movement economically within a short period of time.

 Forums / Politics / Re: Help: Will This Country Get Better?


emiemi, I happen to be one of the many who believes that Nigeria's problems and infact, Africa's problems are not that hard to fix. We only need to get the right people up there to do the right thing and you gave a great example with NAFDAC. It did not take her a century or decades to turn things around and we are speaking of one woman who was able to manage those under her to get to her Vision for NAFDAC. And if we can note, it did not take so many people but just the right people working IN THE SAME NIGERIA which we know happens to be corrupt from top to bottom.
emiemi (f)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #171 on: March 01, 2008, 08:31 AM »

How do we actually get the small group of people that would effect the change that is needed in this country?
We need the right people in the presidency, NASS, Gubernatorial seats, LG Chairmanship positions, Commissioners, ministers, police force, Courts, etc. As it is today, some of the godfathers have determined not to let this country progress and they will do anything to ensure that. So what exactly can we do?
sleekmike (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #172 on: March 01, 2008, 10:30 AM »

The court had done what Nigerians affirmed in the polls.
Yar'dua is the man. Who else could have won the election. 
We have confidence in the president we have elected.
YAR'DUA FOR LIFE AND FOR REAL. just wait for the change
Fijaborn
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #173 on: March 01, 2008, 10:50 AM »

To have justice in Nigeria will take a grace of God, it is known to everybody that the President himself said at the G8 summit abroad that "I know that the election was not free and fair" so why is it that Nigeria Judiciary are chasing shadow?.

It could have been a plus on Nigeria politics if and only if the election was annulled last Tuesday 26th of February,but the so aclled Justice uphold what they are known for i.e. giving a false judgement.

May God save Nigeria (Amen).
mdsocks (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #174 on: March 01, 2008, 11:08 AM »

 Cool
mdsocks (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #175 on: March 01, 2008, 11:17 AM »

 Cool
9ja4eva (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #176 on: March 01, 2008, 04:50 PM »

Magoo Magoo way
Frando29 (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #177 on: March 01, 2008, 05:01 PM »

All that has happened and is happening is just an indication that Nigeria is ripe for a revolution. Unless our grandparents, parents, children and grand children take to the streets to protest the injustice, corruption and looting meted out on this our beloved country, things will never get better. We have stayed in the gallery for too long watching things get messed up in this country. The sufferings of Nigerians get worse everyday and our prayers is that "it will be well". Nigerians are far pushed into the wall and if care is not taken, will go through the wall. This is the time we need our heroes!
Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #178 on: March 01, 2008, 05:38 PM »

Quote from: Frando29 on March 01, 2008, 05:01 PM
All that has happened and is happening is just an indication that Nigeria is ripe for a revolution. Unless our grandparents, parents, children and grand children take to the streets to protest the injustice, corruption and looting meted out on this our beloved country, things will never get better. We have stayed in the gallery for too long watching things get messed up in this country. The sufferings of Nigerians get worse everyday and our prayers is that "it will be well". Nigerians are far pushed into the wall and if care is not taken, will go through the wall. This is the time we need our heroes!

What heroes???
Gabdo
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #179 on: March 04, 2008, 05:34 PM »

Actually it is unfortunate that the president has the powers to appoint a judge who will preside a judgement involving him. With such powers there can never be justice, afterall all the foreign spectators that witnessed the election condemned it and described it as below standard but that not withstanding the judge confidently upheld the worst election ever conducted in Nigeria.
kokorunna (m)
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #180 on: March 04, 2008, 06:13 PM »

Whats all the fuss about Alhaji Umar Musa Yar'Adua has won the election and I believe its high time the rest of the Nigerians get behind him and support him. Shocked
Kobojunkie
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #181 on: March 07, 2008, 04:14 PM »

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/guest-articles/the-yar-adua-judgement-a-wasted-opportu.html

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Take the argument that the petitioner did not tender the non-serialised ballot papers to the Court, for example. It is in my layman’s opinion that since the petitioner tendered a written evidence to the effect that INEC actually issued a specific instruction to the Printer to print the ballot papers without serial numbers, the burden shifted to INEC to prove that contrary to the petitioner’s claim and the written instruction from Iwu, the papers were indeed eventually printed with serial numbers, and used for the election, by tendering serialised ballot papers used for the election before the Tribunal. It amounts to a travesty of justice to reject available evidence from the petitioner, which was not contested by the respondent in preference for non-existent evidence to the contrary, knowing fully well that INEC as a defendant to the case may have denied the petitioner access to some critical information needed to nail them at the PET. By countering the petitioners’ evidence without counter evidence, it then appears the Tribunal had set out to attain a certain destination at all cost.

That the tribunal did not find it a substantial non-compliance to the Electoral Act that the voter's register used for the election, which is a key tool in the whole process was very irregular as even photos of children featured in many documents, against the requirement that voters should be above 18 years of age is very mysterious indeed. The petitioners also tendered documents before the Tribunal to prove that pre-dated and post-dated result sheets were used by INEC to declare Yar’Adua winner. Curiously again the Tribunal did not find this curious. In choosing to dwell on the manually collated results, the tribunal did not explain the intent of INEC in authenticating differing versions of the same result. The Tribunal did not establish equivocally that the manually collated results tallied with the results upon which Yar’Adua’s victory was announced by INEC and if so, the purpose of the variant versions, pre and post dated.


One of the most sacrilegious statement made by the judge is that ‘Even if the petitioner was able to prove that the Electoral Act was not substantially complied with by the 1st and 2nd respondents (INEC and Prof. Maurice Iwu), the petitioner will have to prove that the said non-compliance has substantially affected the result of the presidential election’ This logic is flawed on the grounds that the means of acquiring the results of the election necessarily must be right before the results could be right as well. If it does not matter to the Tribunal how the results were awarded to the contestants then, one wonders the essence of the Electoral Act. If an Iwu could just sit somewhere and allocate votes with his pen to a choice candidate knowing fully well that it would be impossible for a petitioner to prove to the tribunal how his act affects the authenticity of the results then, we can as well forget about democracy. We should as well just authorize the Chairman of the Electoral Commission to select our leaders on our behalf, thus saving us billions of Naira wasted by the commission in the name of conduction an election under the Act.

The tribunal also contradicted itself when it stated that there is no shred of evidence to prove that elections held at different times, and even if there was, he has not shown how that conferred undue advantage to the 5th and 6th respondents Yar'Adua and Jonathan) to warrant the tribunal to nullify their election," But then the Tribunal acknowledged the fact that INEC tried to exclude the petitioner, but following the April 16, 2007 ruling of the Supreme Court, INEC published his name, ’ Surprisingly the Tribunal failed to conclude the last statement with the fact (which is known to them) that Atiku’s name was included only few hours to the election against the requirement by the Electoral Act that it should be done not less than 30 days before the election day thus slowing down the tempo of his campaign and demoralizing his supporters. Now if this did not confer undue advantage on his (Atiku’s) opponents then what did it confer?

Did INEC indeed provide a level playing field for the petitioner (Atiku) in view of the evidence before the Tribunal that INEC ab initio actively pitched its tent with the ruling party in their quest to disqualify the petitioner from the election until the Supreme Court had to stop them? And if the answer is no then why would the Tribunal want the word to believe that they did not see INEC’s action as running contrary to the letter and spirit of the Elecoral Act that expects it to be an unbiased umpire and thus committing a gross violation of the Act?

Having raised these issues (and I know legal luminaries will find more issues with the judgment), I want to take special note of a statement from the Judge that gives a clue as to the motive of the overall conclusion on the case. He stated that ‘The petition fails and is hereby dismissed. In view of the importance of these cases to the evolving democracy in Nigeria’. It is apparent that the overriding factor necessitating this judgment was not justice in the strict sense of it but rather a compelling desire not to rock the boat. The tribunal may have taken note of the messy scenario of Yar’Adua being compelled to hand over to David Mark, who incidentally is also sitting on a questionable mandate, and the possibility of Mark also being compelled to hand over to another if his appeal fails.



jimmyjam
Re: Presidential Election Tribunal Upholds Yar'adua's Election
« #182 on: March 26, 2008, 11:46 PM »

If you read the only truthful source of news in nigeria www.saharareporters.com you will see buhari and atikus petiton to the tribunal court there. you will see how the electiosn violated about 70% of the election law such as no serial numbers, no cover sheets, no serially marked boxes etc, use of thugs, touts  more voters in some local govt areas than registered voters these should automatically cancel and void that election based on the law in the constitution.

However whats in the constitution and what the verdict by justices at the tribunal do not tally at all. Its God that will Judge it and all will get their reward in due time.
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