War Looms In South America!

Yeah because of course, an Intelligence organization is supposed to be involved in assassinations on their soil and foreign soil, the selling of Opium and of course dangerous experiments on the citizens of their country including the mentally challenged, they imported Nazi scientists who committed atrocities against the Jews and Roma, the arming and training of the Contras. and of course the US army's My Lai massacre and other massacres in Iraq and Vietnam by US marines, Let us note that this is not their country's freedom they are fighting for oh!! I'm sure that there are people who would define those actions as "Terrorist"  c'mon dude stop hugging the US's nuts  , as for FARC I bet there are some Colombians who would disagree with you there.  Like it was said earlier "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" until there is an internationally agreed upon definition of the word "Terrorist" I let this one rest.



Iran has a right to the pursuit of Nuclear power for peaceful purposes.  I'm sure that if the "oga US" can use Nuclear power to develop weapons they can surely make allowance for Iran to do the opposite.  I reiterate, the IAEA finds no evidence that Iran has been developing weapons after 2003.  Besides the US is the "Baba" of violating international protocol.  Look up the clusterfuck that is Iraq and this is even prior to their beef with Iran.  Anyways this has nothing to do with Colombia,Venezuela and Ecuador, how did we start arguing about this?

@paddy_lo,

You're soooo right it hurts! A lot of these "America is always right" simpletons are ignorant of the numerous atrocities the US has committed/supported/encouraged and still commit/support/encourage. For example, the Americans supported the evil Apartheid government of South Africa responsible for the cold-blooded murder of thousands (including the anti-apartheid activist Steve Biko) and referred to the great Nelson Mandela as a "terrorist", and they are still supporting Apartheid Israel and its assassination, kidnapping and killing of Palestinian children using American-made armament.

I thank Chineke, plus Olodumare, plus Ubangidi, plus Oghene, plus including Osanobua say pesin like you put correct comment for this place.

one of the mistakes of the CIA. i don't see how it's terrorism since they weren't targetting random civillians.  the KGB and other organizations have engaged in this illicit activities.



those activities weren't officially sanctioned by the US army.  those were actions of individual soldiers that were immediately condemned. bad example. the CIA is an intelligence gathering agency, something the FARC or hezbollah aren't .


u must be confusing the US army with the CIA


great, there are some people that support al qaeda, so that means al qaeda isn't a terrorist group.


no it wont' rest, is a group that kills peasants at will, taxes colombians, traffics cocaine and kidnaps intellectuals and politicians a terrorist group?? yes or no.


the double standard that countries u like are allowed to violate international law. i like how u have ignored the fact that iranian generals are involved in the iranian nuclear program or that IAEA inspectors aren't allowed into iran's underground facilities. but hey, it's iran let them do that.  i would prefer not to continue this convo if u are unwilling to answer my question about the FARC.

@RichyBlacK
Please don't confuse people who say 'The US is NOT ALWAYS wrong' with 'The US is always right'.
That has been a common Nairaland mistake.
You constantly announce that you're not against America, that you only loathe people like Bush. Fine. Just when i start believing you, you go and support EVERYTHING people like JayFK say just because it casts your points in good light. For example. . .

@JayFK
The CIA importing Nazi scientists to perform experiments on Jews and Gypsies? Provide proof or stand discredited.

Blaming the CIA for the My Lai massacres. . .you might as well blame the CIA for the recent rape case in Japan.

You can't really be serious right?  Haven't you read WWII and Cold War history? I said the CIA imported War criminals "who" performed experiments on Jews and Gypsies look up "Operation Paperclip" this is not fiction.

I did not blame the CIA for My Lai, don't misunderstand me.  Your boy above there he says basically that anyone who utilizes Terrorist tactics must be a terrorist, so I told him that "how bout the CIA and the US army who utilized such tactics, Can they be called terrorists too?  My point is if he is so willing to extend the label to just about anyone surely he must be willing to extend it to the CIA no?

dude I stated evidence above, they are off the books operations aka Black Operations sanctioned by the CIA
I'm not willing to call FARC a terrorist organization, because if FARC is a terror group then every rebel group can be called Terrorist including Castro and the July movement who rebelled against Batista.
However, I will be willing to concede that FARC is a terrorist organization, if you concede that the CIA is/was a terrorist organization.  If we can't make concessions then hey, we leave it as it is.

please list what CIA policy officially sanctions the killing of civilians. u have issues if u think the transportation of nazi scientists is terrorism.  the actions of rogue elements in the CIA doesn't dampen the aim of the organization.  the CIA is an intelligence gathering group, is hezbollah one?? is FARC one or is shining path one.  it's irritating to see how people would justify bad actions. 

And now the new twist of events. Correa to bush:

send us your troops or 'shut up' see liver oh!

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/080314/afp/080314210208int.html

Intelligence operations,almost by definition,involve killings, in many cases, of civilians.If you broadened the meaning of terrorist to include every conceivable organisation that kills or has killed civilians(whether its the Bakassi Boys or the Sicilian Mafia) that would strip the term of its unique meaning and render it useless.Is the Nigerian police a terrorist organisation because it regularly kills civilians and "terrorises" innocents to part with their cash?


Terrorists groups are those whose raisond'etre is the indiscriminate killing of civilians.Alternatively,it can be used to describe groups whose main MO is the indiscriminate killing of civilians.

Sure,many security services(especially intelligence services)may occasionally engage in activities that border on terrorism ,but to label them terrorist will be to stretch the meaning of terrorist beyond reason.