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Bibi (m)
Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« on: August 11, 2005, 09:21 PM »

There are many ways of expressing one's love. Is love with someone of the opposite sex the only valid kind of love? What do you think about love between members of same sex? How do you think about love to the same sex? We want to hear your voice.
hot-angel (f)
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #1 on: August 11, 2005, 11:45 PM »

Not this topic AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/ Please surf the forums before making the same thread that is already all over the place. Thanks  Smiley
Seun (m)
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #2 on: August 11, 2005, 11:48 PM »

Latoya (f)
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #3 on: August 12, 2005, 08:28 AM »

I think we 've said this before.

Its a crime in the eyes of God o,but these dayz people don't see it that way.i guess
Its more of a choice,than a crime now.
Saint
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #4 on: August 12, 2005, 09:37 AM »

I believe there is a clear distinction between "expressions of love" and "sexual desires"..

Anyone can express love.. and is free to express love in whatever form they wish.. we all know of Parental love, Filial (brotherly/sisterly) love, Platonic love, Spriritual love (agape), etc etc...

However, Homosexuality and Lesbianism transcend this.. It is more of a "Sexual" thing, with the parties involved expressing sexual desire (end result) rather than just mere love..

We shouldn't mix the two, because they're quite different things..
redsun (m)
Homosexuality
« #5 on: June 03, 2007, 07:50 PM »

Can africa ever come to terms with homosexuality?
wahrheit
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #6 on: June 15, 2009, 04:14 PM »

As a Nigerian Gay i believe that as long as Nigerians let ignorance and baseless religion cloud them, people will always be in the dark about Homosexuality in this country. Most Nigerians think being gay is al about sex between two guys. No one considers the emotional aspect of it. And we are so religious that the only books and literature we read are the Bible and Quran ( of course there's nothing wrong in doding this) that we don't bother to read othe scientific research findings on the internet concerning Homosexuality.

And please don't give me that crap about God creating Adam and Eve. Gays are not a third specie. No one is disputing the fact that God ceated a male and a female specie. All we are saying is try to see things from our point of view, because the truth is there is a 50% possibility that your closest friend or brother or sister is gay. We have more pressing issues in this country to start worrying about Gays and Lesbians.

Lets take a look at other countries that have been more understanding towards gays. In Germany the Mayor of Berlin ( the capital) is gay, as well as the mayor of Hamburg, the city with the alrgest sea port in Germany, as well as the head of one of the strongest political parties in Germany. And the last time i checked this country had a far better economy than Nigeria. In fact we don't come anywhere close to them in infastructure or any other thing. My point? Acknowdging and accepting gays will not result to the downgfall of our great country Nigeria. Hlding on to unreasonable and baseless prejudices WILL get us no where.
ebumowa (f)
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #7 on: June 16, 2009, 07:23 AM »

Quote from: wahrheit on June 15, 2009, 04:14 PM
As a Nigerian Gay i believe that as long as Nigerians let ignorance and baseless religion cloud them, people will always be in the dark about Homosexuality in this country. Most Nigerians think being gay is al about sex between two guys. No one considers the emotional aspect of it. And we are so religious that the only books and literature we read are the Bible and Quran ( of course there's nothing wrong in doding this) that we don't bother to read othe scientific research findings on the internet concerning Homosexuality.

And please don't give me that crap about God creating Adam and Eve. Gays are not a third specie. No one is disputing the fact that God ceated a male and a female specie. All we are saying is try to see things from our point of view, because the truth is there is a 50% possibility that your closest friend or brother or sister is gay. We have more pressing issues in this country to start worrying about Gays and Lesbians.

Lets take a look at other countries that have been more understanding towards gays. In Germany the Mayor of Berlin ( the capital) is gay, as well as the mayor of Hamburg, the city with the alrgest sea port in Germany, as well as the head of one of the strongest political parties in Germany. And the last time i checked this country had a far better economy than Nigeria. In fact we don't come anywhere close to them in infastructure or any other thing. My point? Acknowdging and accepting gays will not result to the downgfall of our great country Nigeria. Hlding on to unreasonable and baseless prejudices WILL get us no where.


Well said


Quote from: Saint on August 12, 2005, 09:37 AM
I believe there is a clear distinction between "expressions of love" and "sexual desires",

Anyone can express love,  and is free to express love in whatever form they wish,  we all know of Parental love, Filial (brotherly/sisterly) love, Platonic love, Spriritual love (agape), etc etc, 

However, Homosexuality and Lesbianism transcend this,  It is more of a "Sexual" thing, with the parties involved expressing sexual desire (end result) rather than just mere love,

We shouldn't mix the two, because they're quite different things, 

Are you trying to say homosexuals (gays/lesbians) cannot express love? Heterosexuality is also a sexual thing as with homosexuality, the only difference is recipient of the attraction. Your theory is baseless, don't straight people sexually desire one another before they fu*k?

However as a lesbian who is currently in a relationship, I would tell you that I love my girlfriend, and I am attracted to her emotionally, physically, and sexually. I express more than "sexual desire" to her, we go through everything straight relationships go through and more.
wahrheit
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #8 on: June 16, 2009, 09:50 AM »

well said ebumowa  Cheesy. Homosexuals are just as emotionally attached to their partners as 'straight' people. It really pises me off when people think its al about sex with gays Angry
stamma (m)
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #9 on: June 17, 2009, 12:37 PM »

Gay, Straight . . . what difference does it make?

Who I love, you love, she loves, he loves . . . is of no relevance -- it's who we are, inside, that matters.

wahrheit
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #10 on: June 18, 2009, 09:37 AM »

preachon preacher!
Ollami (f)
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #11 on: June 18, 2009, 04:31 PM »

pastor, wht are u looking for here ?
Saint
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #12 on: October 18, 2009, 03:13 PM »

Quote from ebumowa
Quote from: ebumowa on June 16, 2009, 07:23 AM

Are you trying to say homosexuals (gays/lesbians) cannot express love? Heterosexuality is also a sexual thing as with homosexuality, the only difference is recipient of the attraction. Your theory is baseless, don't straight people sexually desire one another before they fu*k?

However as a lesbian who is currently in a relationship, I would tell you that I love my girlfriend, and I am attracted to her emotionally, physically, and sexually. I express more than "sexual desire" to her, we go through everything straight relationships go through and more.

Ebumowa,

Just read your response,

It really sounded weighted,

But I must disagree with you on one fundamental point/issue,

Homosexuality or Heterosexuality,  is a CHOICE [ no matter what the "scientific bodies" all over the world come up with in their research,

You choose to express and/or manifest your feelings/emotions/desires in any particular manner,  Whether its with a male or female or animal,  its always a matter of choice,  You choose who will be the receipient of your "love",  And the choices made define you,

I have not said that homosexuals can not or do not express love or sexual desire, 

I have not said that love and sexual desire are the sole property of "straight" people,

All I have said is that if it was just a mere case of "expressions of love" it would not be defined as homosexuality, 

But as we both know, this is often not the case,  Homosexual practicioners dont just express their love for their partners of the same sex, but go further to manifest physical attraction and sexual desires for their partners, and choose to act on them, 
That is the CHOICE they have made, 

On the issue of relationships,  with whosoever is your "partner", that is a slippery slope I would not want to get into right now,  [it has the penchance to be come a never ending topic of discussion, with everyone believing firmly in their respective view points,

I'll be bold and ask you this though,  When you made the choice to homosexuality [or lesbianism as is your particular affiliation], what were the factors which made you choose to have a relationship with a female, rather than a male?

Were they driven mainly by physical attraction, or was it more an emotional/psychological thing??

Have you ever had a (meaningful) relationship with a man?? And if yes, what was the end result? And if no, can you then objectively say that a relationship with a male would have been less meaningful or less fulfilling,  Huh

I would be much obliged if you would provide answers to these questions,  It may provide those of us "who clearly dont have a clue" with a bit of insight,

Ciao.

 
ebumowa (f)
Re: Homosexuality/Lesbianism
« #13 on: October 19, 2009, 05:01 AM »

@Saint:
        I am talking about homosexuality as attraction to persons of the same sex. I did not choose to be attracted to girls it is just who I am, but I did choose to 'act' on the attraction, I hope you can see the difference.
        As for meaningful relationship with men, I became aware of my sexual 'orientation' very early and I entered all of relationships with members of the opposite sex as an effort to 'reset' myself, sort of trying to 'force' an attraction. There was nothing lacking, but you can't force what isn't there either.
         As for why I decide to 'act' on my attraction? I got tired of hating myself, being ashamed of myself, I had done almost everything to try and 'change' myself and I was still gay. One day, I asked myself 'what is wrong with me?' and the I realized that was nothing wrong with me, that I was just another person in the world you just happened to be gay.

I have to say this because many people think homosexuals are homosexuals because of 'something' that happened to them. I peronsally didn't have any bad 'experiences' with men, I wasn't molested or touch sexually by a female when I was in 'mixed' boarding house, I don't hate men and I didn't have to sleep with a girl to know that I was gay.
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