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May kelly (f)
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@May Kelly Where is the pride now babygirl? I have been given you verses from your bible supporting my claim which you have not been able to refute. Do I talk to your parent on religion so that you can be allowed to learn one or two things about The Great Religion and I am very sure that if you could practice it in just two days, you would never want to be a chriatian again. Did I HEAR YOU SAY THAT HE NEVER FORSAKES BUT HE WAS FORSAKEN BY HIMSELF ON THE CROSS WHEN HE SHOUTED MY GOD MY GOD, WHY HAS THOU FORSAKEN. He forsook himself and prayed to himself  Do you care if you and I shed more light on John 1 v 1? I have debunked the other verses where christian hide to preach trinity in which the verses never existed but happened to be later insertion and now is the big bang John 1 v 1 which I am willing to unveil it if you care. Good. Do you mind if we treat; did Jesus die for our sin? was he sent to the whole world? Is he your saviour? was he crucified? Trinity and em em. Let us start from the above listed topics. Salam and are you prepared? Bab787, don't be confused with the fake doctrine planted in you. Lets us tackle this one after the other; babs87 why do you like long talk without proof? you asked me a question and I explained to you and also told you to read John chapter one and come up with your fininding simple. All this noise making of yours will never allow you to see the truth and to come out from the boundage rel.i.gion your into already. Now i see the reason why sysuser was fad up with you because you always like beating about the bush. man lets us get it right that JSEUS is the son of GOD, one after the other. So what are am saying, read my last post and come up with your findings only on that chapter; when we finish it you can ask another one. I doing things orderly because JESUS IS A MAN OF ORDERLNESS
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May kelly (f)
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@May Kelly: I was going to tell you that it isn't it ironic that the "peaceful" christians on earth are the same group preparing for fight at end time and even taking it so far that you are suggesting that there will be a fight in heaven! Wow. Is this not presently fighting people kind of of disingenous? Considering that you still have 2 major fights: one in heaven after the one on earth.
I guess you are living up to your proverbial "As it is done on earth so as in the heaven," from the lord's prayer.
My dear na you make me answer you like this.
Where is Nwando?
@olabowale, who is Nwando? is he lost and you can't find him? Anyway sha, you did not ask any question and there is nothing to answer you, unlike your brother babs787, but never mind any time you seem to be confused with one or two things in your re.li.gi.on do not hastate to call on me. see yah.
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MC Usman (m)
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@ May Kelly
Does the keyboard stutter?
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May kelly (f)
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@ May Kelly
Does the keyboard stutter?
And what does this suppose to mean?
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babs787 (m)
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@May Kelly Bab787, don't be confused with the fake doctrine planted in you. Lets us tackle this one after the other; babs87 why do you like long talk without proof? you asked me a question and I explained to you and also told you to read John chapter one and come up with your fininding simple. All this noise making of yours will never allow you to see the truth and to come out from the boundage rel.i.gion your into already.
Now i see the reason why sysuser was fad up with you because you always like beating about the bush. man lets us get it right that JSEUS is the son of GOD, one after the other.
So what are am saying, read my last post and come up with your findings only on that chapter; when we finish it you can ask another one. I doing things orderly because JESUS IS A MAN OF ORDERLNESS Since you said that you wanted us to start with John 1 v 1: here I go with some questions on it: What is the greek word for God in that verse? I am not surprised that Jehovah Witness are not in agreement with you in that area. They used 'a god' and they have been saying that Jesus is a lesser god, 'TON THEON' Please I will need your explanation on the meaning of TON THEON HO THEOS We will then compare Exodus 7 v 1 where God made Moses god to Pharaoh Psalm 82 v 6: I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High and see if it has the same meaning as God used in John 1 v1; whether it is TO THEON or HO THEON and if it has any relationship with that of John 1 v 1. Thanks
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May kelly (f)
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@May Kelly Since you said that you wanted us to start with John 1 v 1: here I go with some questions on it: What is the greek word for God in that verse? I am not surprised that Jehovah Witness are not in agreement with you in that area. They used 'a god' and they have been saying that Jesus is a lesser god, 'TON THEON' Please I will need your explanation on the meaning of TON THEON HO THEOS We will then compare,Exodus 7 v 1 where God made Moses god to Pharaoh Psalm 82 v 6: I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High,And see if it has the same meaning as God used in John 1 v1; whether it is TO THEON or HO THEON and if it has any relationship with that of John 1 v 1. Thanks
Oh! babs787, you like contradicting issues. We are to base our discussion on JOHN CHAPTER ONE, now your asking whether it is TO THEON or HO THEON; what kind of man are you. Do not confused your self the more. I am trying to bring you out of many contradicting words in your head and your making things worst. I am doing you favour babs787, you don't know CHRIST; what a shame! Please Read John chapter one and let me start from there teaching you about CHRIST. Forget what Jehovah Witness said, but what do you say? GOD HAS MANY NAMESJEHOVAH, I AM THAT IAM, CREATOR, CHINEKE, ALLAH, ABASI, OLUWA, and many more. The fact is that you can call Him by title: LORD, Creator, Maker etc Babs787 stop all these Prank; you're a cunning fox, go straight to what we are to discuss i mean "JOHN CHAPTER ONE" Lets talk about JESUS. My BIBLE recorded lesser gods as idols, baal, and what have you but DID NOT record CHRIST JESUS AS ONE OF THEM. CHRIST WAS RECORDED AS;AMEN. THE BEGINING AND THE CREATION OF GOD. APOSTLE. CHIEF AGENT OF LIFE. CHRIST/MESSIAH. ETERNAL FATHER. FAITHFULL WITNESS. FINE SHEPHERD. HEAD OF THE CONGREGATION. HIGH PRIEST. IMMANUEL. JUDGE. KING. LAMB OF GOD. LAST ADAM. LEADER. LORD. MEDIATOR. MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL. MIGHTY GOD. PRINCE OF PEACE. SAVIOUR. SON OF GOD. SON OF MAN. TEACHER. THE WORD. WONDERFUL COUNSELLOR. Above quotes in the bible witheld. The earlier the better for your soul  and Babs787 GOD IS NOT COMPARABLE Remain Blessed! 
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MC Usman (m)
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CHRIST WAS RECORDED AS;THE BEGINING AND THE CREATION OF GOD. APOSTLE. CHIEF AGENT OF LIFE. CHRIST/MESSIAH. ETERNAL FATHER. FAITHFULL WITNESS. FINE SHEPHERD. HEAD OF THE CONGREGATION. HIGH PRIEST. IMMANUEL. JUDGE. KING. LAMB OF GOD. LAST ADAM. LEADER. LORD. MEDIATOR. MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL. MIGHTY GOD. PRINCE OF PEACE. SAVIOUR. SON OF GOD. SON OF MAN. TEACHER. THE WORD. WONDERFUL COUNSELLOR. Above quotes in the bible witheld. Funny you did not include servant in the list. Cos last time i checked the Bible Jesus was called servant of God on many occations
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May kelly (f)
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@MC-Usman, well I want to believe is not a way of being smart - that made you to leave AMEN behind because it is one of the names of CHRIST I posted to you. I will like to kn the chapter where you found that. BELIEVE IN CHRIST JESUS AND YOU SHALL BE SAVED!
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romeo (m)
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@MC-Usman, well I want to believe is not a way of being smart - that made you to leave AMEN behind because it is one of the names of CHRIST I posted to you. I will like to kn the chapter where you found that. BELIEVE IN CHRIST JESUS AND YOU SHALL BE SAVED!Have you accepted him? foolish villa scum
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fyneguy
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the problem is this:
Islam is a religion
Christianity is not a religion
so it's not in order to use religious parameters to assess christianity.
shikena!
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olabowale (m)
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@fyneguy: If Christianity is not a religion, then whats Christianity? What do we measure it by since we can not apply religious barometers to it? lol. You are a funny dude. I see the christians just making things up as they go along. But unfortunately trying ever desperately to force feed the rest of us.
Christianity can never be better than the religion that Jesus observed. That religion is the same that Moses observed. And the core of that religion is not different from the core of Noah's, Ibrahim's Adam's, etc religion. You continue to deceive yourself. There is a day that all of these deceits will be laid bare to you. The regret that day will be much.
Walk away from worshipping multiheads god, right now. Accept guidance in One true invisible God. There is no one that can help you against His punishment. And no one can hold you back from His favor, either.
Only foolish mind worshipin belief that God is more than One! There is none save Him. He has no associates, no beginning, no parent and no offspring.
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May kelly (f)
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Have you accepted him? foolish villa scum
Anyway no doubt, accuser of brethren.
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romeo (m)
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Anyway no doubt, accuser of brethen.
Did you mean "accuser of the brethren"? After reading you in your "Igbo men and their age in marriage", don't come to religion section to play Virgen Mary!! You're a disgrace to christianity
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May kelly (f)
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Walk away from worshipping multiheads god, right now. Accept guidance in One true invisible God. There is no one that can help you against His punishment. And no one can hold you back from His favor, either.
Only foolish mind worshipin belief that God is more than One! There is none save Him. He has no associates, no beginning, no parent and no offspring.
All true christians fully know and observe that THERE IS ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH GOD. The great religion might have many gods, but sincerely speaking WHAT WE KNOW AND HAVE WITNESSED AND CAN TESTIFY is that there is ONLY ONE GOD -the same GOD of Elijah. We christians worship only HIM (GOD OF ELIJAH) and nothing more. JESUS CHRIST THE TRUE SON OF GOD, JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE IN SPIRIT. The Son is in the Father, and the Holy Spirit in the Father.
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May kelly (f)
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Did you mean "accuser of the brethren"?
After reading you in your "Igbo men and their age in marriage", don't come to religion section to play Virgen Mary!! You're a disgrace to christianity
The correct spelling is Virgin but not Virgen Mary ok.  The True sons and daughters of GOD are known by their fruits while that of DEVIL is also known by their fruits. I am wishing you Jesus Love and caring. I rather obey GOd than man. I will always obey GOD's WORD not to abuse anyone.
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romeo (m)
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The correct spelling is Virgin but not Virgen Mary ok.  They are both correct spellings of it in two different languages (English and Spanish) and my Spanish got in the way 
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olabowale (m)
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@May Kelly: JESUS CHRIST THE TRUE SON OF GOD, JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE IN SPIRIT. The Son is in the Father, and the Holy Spirit in the Father. If I have a nickel (I used nickel to confuse her, Okay), for every time I read your double talk, I would actually have secured a million Dollars, on that premise alone. How can Father be son, and son be father, and holy spirit is father, yet each is complete and autonomous and independent of one another? If one is the others, then when one died, the other must have died. And since One is can never dies, then the others can never die. And since One can never be seen by mortal and live, then the others are just in the same realm. And if any of these ideas is not fulfilled by any of the three elements in your godheads, then you sure know that you have not been sincere in your proposed concept. But did Jesus not say in Mark 12 verse 29 that he has the same God and Lord as everyone else? May Kelly, am waiting for your answer. @Davidylan: Funny enough that in 1 Timothy 5 verse 8, the word "infidel" was used to describe nonchristians. I guess Davidylan (4Him) and others can't accuse the mu/s/lims of originating that Word. Interestingly, the jews have 'gentile' to describe nonJews. What the mu/sl/lims have is kafir. But also for your information David, you should see on "the socalled deleted books of the bible,' thread, ~lady~ entered yesterday, that the language spoken by Jesus, hence his revelation and teachings were in Aramaic. And the land was called palestine even at that time. i guess even before Jesus. Both conditions proved Is/lamic stance as being correct.
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May kelly (f)
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They are both correct spellings of it in two different languages (English and Spanish) and my Spanish got in the way  Oh! stop that, you're a cunning fox.
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romeo (m)
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Oh! stop that, you're a cunning fox.
Truth hurts 
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Piacere
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Well May kelly, you really are the proper little christian fundie nutjob. I know you christians have a thing about punishment and pain, eternal punishment and pain even. So no doubt you are beside yourself with excitement at the prospect of your ", sweet Jesus Christ." returning in all his glory and giving us wicked atheists a good dose of that eternal hell fire. I just hope he doesn't keep you waiting as he did the poor suckers who followed him when he was supposedly on earth. Matthew 16:27-28 KJV. For the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels, and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, there shall be some standing here which will not taste death, till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom.
This is what Jesus was supposed to have said to his followers, so unless they have managed to stay alive for the past two thousand years I can only assume that Jesus was being economical with the truth. Perhaps waiting for a messiah is like waiting for a bus. You wait for a couple of thousand years and then three come along all at once.
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May kelly (f)
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so mr. know all, whats your question about the SON OF GOD whom you rejected?
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Piacere
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May kelly, you say that I have rejected your son of god, more than that May, I reject the whole crazy christian thing. The bible is not a very reliable source, but as it is all we have to tell us about this son of god I suppose it will have to do. You see May I am a great believer in family values, and if the bible is to be believed, old JC didn't come up to the mark. He told his disciples to leave their jobs, abandon their wives and children and follow him around like a group of nomadic hippies. And what's all this about him saying that unless you hate your mother and father and children you couldn't join his Jesus appreciation club.(Luke 14:26 KJV) Not surprising really, because the few times the bible does report Jesus speaking to his mother he talks to her as though she was doggy doo. Yes I reject your "son of god" May , and all the nonsense that goes with it. By the way, I have been reading some of your earlier posts and I have to say that you are one of the best recruiting sergeants for atheism I have ever known. Keep up the good work!
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May kelly (f)
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May kelly, you say that I have rejected your son of god, more than that May, I reject the whole crazy christian thing. The bible is not a very reliable source, but as it is all we have to tell us about this son of god I suppose it will have to do. You see May I am a great believer in family values, and if the bible is to be believed, old JC didn't come up to the mark. He told his disciples to leave their jobs, abandon their wives and children and follow him around like a group of nomadic hippies. And what's all this about him saying that unless you hate your mother and father and children you couldn't join his Jesus appreciation club.(Luke 14:26 KJV) Not surprising really, because the few times the bible does report Jesus speaking to his mother he talks to her as though she was doggy doo. Yes I reject your "son of god" May , and all the nonsense that goes with it. By the way, I have been reading some of your earlier posts and I have to say that you are one of the best recruiting sergeants for atheism I have ever known. Keep up the good work!
I kn how you feel, is normal with those who felt rejected and abandon for no reasons. This is the no. one reason for CHRIST JESUS coming to the world to SAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU. But is unfortunate that you have bias mind concerning my SWEET CHRIST JESUS not only that, but you accused HIM of not treating MOTHER MARY kindly. My dear Piacere, you kn nothing about my SWEET JESUS CHRSIT ok. Christ is our MODEL in every thing; in the Home He taught us how to respect our Parents, care for little children, take care of the Poor in the society, have mercy on those you think have the greatest sin, care for our neighbours even those we meet on the Road (strangers) Infact I don't kn where to begin and stop; Because it is obvious in the Bible for True believers not for the Pharisees to who always seek for accusations while they are hide their sins behind - just like those who wanted to stone to death the woman whom they claimed that was commiting adultery Piacere i ask you "where was the man who was commiting the act with him" Christ was never rude to MOTHER MARY. He even said that Mother Mary is our Mother also but not only HIM . I WILL MAKE YOU FISHERS OF MEN IF YOU FOLLOW ME. mind you that JESUS choose some people but not all people. To those few people he said leave everything and follow me. of course those people did not regret or desire anything simply because they are following CHRIST. Since you've been following Men, what have you achieved? SWEET JESUS THE GREATEST THING THAT EVER HAPPEN TO ME IS KNOWING YOU. HOW POWERFUL AND WONDERFUL YOUR NAME IS. JESUS I LOVE YOU, ALL I HAVE IS YOURS, YOURS I AM; YOURS I WANT TO BE.
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babs787 (m)
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@May Kelly Let me take you back to your last post towards my rejoinder. Oh! babs787, you like contradicting issues. We are to base our discussion on JOHN CHAPTER ONE, now your asking whether it is TO THEON or HO THEON; what kind of man are you. Do not confused your self the more. I am trying to bring you out of many contradicting words in your head and your making things worst.
I am doing you favour babs787, you don't know CHRIST; what a shame! Please Read John chapter one and let me start from there teaching you about CHRIST. Do you think you can teach me Jesus/ Far from that, you can never but I am the best position to do that having tasted your religion before moving to Islam. You and I agreed to discuss John 1 v 1 in which you said that Jesus is God just because your translators says' in the beginning was the world and the word was with God and the word is God' and I asked you to tell me the greek word for God in that verse. The reason for asking you that question is that the verse did not in anyway refer to deity of Jesus but differentiating God from Jesus and since you are hell bent on Jesus being God, I asked you to furnish me the meaning of the word 'God' because the word 'God' used in the above verse was used for Moses in the boom of Exodus and also in the book of Psalm. So if your Jesus is God because of the fraudulent verse, the verse says 'the word was with God', so can a thing beside another one be the same? If truly Jesus is God, kindly furnish me the greek word for God in that verse and we get to the root o JOHN 1 V 1. Forget what Jehovah Witness said, but what do you say? You don't have to tell me to forget what Jehovah witness says. They are christian like you and they claim that they copied their bible from the ancient manuscript and we found out that most of what they kick against happened to be the truth because your bible exposed some of the facts and that is the more reason I love reading their awake magazine and sometimes watchtower special editions like those on christmas, trinity, etc. GOD HAS MANY NAMES
JEHOVAH, I AM THAT IAM, CREATOR, CHINEKE, ALLAH, ABASI, OLUWA, and many more. The fact is that you can call Him by title: LORD, Creator, Maker etc That is not what we are here to discuss. We are here to discuss Jon 1 v 1 or trinity and I ave given you questions to start with so playing ignorance here would not help you my dear Babs787 stop all these Prank; you're a cunning fox, go straight to what we are to discuss i mean "JOHN CHAPTER ONE" Lets talk about JESUS. Yeah, we are to discuss Jesus being your God and I asked you some questions in my last post which you pretended not to see with regards to 'God' used in John 1 v 1 and when we are through with that, we shall go to facts from early christians showing that trinity never existed during their time nor the time of Jesus christ. My BIBLE recorded lesser gods as idols, baal, and what have you but DID NOT record CHRIST JESUS AS ONE OF THEM. No, your bible, protestant, catholic bible recorded Jesus as servant of God and some writers who never witnessed Jesus but copied from pagans claimed that he is son of God but none claimed that he is God and it is only jehovah witness that says he is a lesser god. CHRIST WAS RECORDED AS;
AMEN. THE BEGINING AND THE CREATION OF GOD. APOSTLE. CHIEF AGENT OF LIFE. CHRIST/MESSIAH. ETERNAL FATHER. FAITHFULL WITNESS. FINE SHEPHERD. HEAD OF THE CONGREGATION. HIGH PRIEST. IMMANUEL. JUDGE. KING. LAMB OF GOD. LAST ADAM. LEADER. LORD. MEDIATOR. MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL. MIGHTY GOD. PRINCE OF PEACE. SAVIOUR. SON OF GOD. SON OF MAN. TEACHER. THE WORD. WONDERFUL COUNSELLOR.
Above quotes in the bible witheld. Can you serve the verse for each attribute and we dig deep and I thought I have explained Isaiah 9 v 6, so let me have the other verses and we explained. The earlier the better for your soul and Babs787 GOD IS NOT COMPARABLE Did you see me comparing God but you have been guilty of your quote above. You have been comparing Jesus with God despite the fact that you have read verses where Jesus said that God sent him and God is greater than him but you still go on with your blasphemous statement that Jesus is God. May God have mercy on you and open your eyes before its too late. Babygirl, I am very sure you must still be in your twenties nad I think this is the best time for you to find out about this religion I have been telling you. Do away with pride, arrogance and what have you and open your eyes, read your bible especially the verses I have been serving you and you would see that all you have been preaching is nothing but destruction. Jesus is not God, didnt die let alone dying for your sin, wasnt crucified, not savior of mankind etc and I am wiling to discuss the above mentioned with you provng it to you with verses from my book and yours too. Remain Blessed! You too but remember that you would gain nothing if you die as a christian because Jesus was not a christian and never understand such but was started by pagans years after his demise.
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Piacere
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I realise that I have only posted a couple of times but this will be my last post. The reason for this is that the "moderator" changed certain words in my post to another thread, even though my post was moderate and polite. To alter the wording of my post like that was not the action of a moderator, but someone applying censorship, something that doesn't belong in a free society. So goodbye to you all, I won't be posting here again.
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May kelly (f)
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Let let be known to you today that if your LIFE is WithOUT CHRIST then you are In CRISIS
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May kelly (f)
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@babs787 , why are you full of confusion. the message is simple;
Christ is the only begotten son of God. The only way to the Father, to the ALLAH for my Christian brethrens, to the God Almighty. Woe to them that rejected the Son of God,
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babs787 (m)
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@May Kelly babs787 , why are you full of confusion. the message is simple;
Christ is the only begotten son of God. I have told you to read your bible very well before discussing with Babs. There is no other gospellers that says Jesus is the only begotten son. If you go to the epistle of John too, you would see the same begotten and if Jesus happens to be the only begotten son, how come Psalm 2 v 7 where God said to David: "Thou art my son: this day have I begotten thee." Also read 2nd Samuel 7v14, I Chronicles 22v 10 and Jeremiah 31v 9: So who is the first born and could Jesus have been the only begotten son? The only way to the Father, to the ALLAH for my Christian brethrens, to the God Almighty. Woe to them that reject the Son of God, You still goofed here. If Jesus happens to be the only to the Father, why did he tell someone that that he would live for observing the commandments and why not tell him point blank that he would not gain paradise if he did not accept him (Jesus) as Lord and personal saviour? Read Luke 10 v 25-28. Also in the gospel of Matthew, a man walked up to Jesus and asked him what to do to gain paradise and Jesus told him to keep the commandment and the commandment Jesus mentioned here happened to be the one given to Moses (Matthew 19 v 16-17). So sister, accept Is lam before its too late and stop running away from the truth.
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May kelly (f)
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@May Kelly
I have told you to read your bible very well before discussing with Babs. There is no other gospellers that says Jesus is the only begotten son. If you go to the epistle of John too, you would see the same begotten and if Jesus happens to be the only begotten son, how come
Psalm 2 v 7 where God said to David: "Thou art my son: this day have I begotten thee."
Also read 2nd Samuel 7v14, I Chronicles 22v 10 and Jeremiah 31v 9:
So who is the first born and could Jesus have been the only begotten son?
You still goofed here. If Jesus happens to be the only to the Father, why did he tell someone that that he would live for observing the commandments and why not tell him point blank that he would not gain paradise if he did not accept him (Jesus) as Lord and personal saviour? Read Luke 10 v 25-28.
Also in the gospel of Matthew, a man walked up to Jesus and asked him what to do to gain paradise and Jesus told him to keep the commandment and the commandment Jesus mentioned here happened to be the one given to Moses (Matthew 19 v 16-17).
So sister, accept Is lam before its too late and stop running away from the truth.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, [ Or his only begotten Son] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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babs787 (m)
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@May Kelly John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, [ Or his only begotten Son] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Na you sabi. Check my post 2015. Do not let case be like that of Hosea that says 'my people perish for lack of knowledge".
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