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Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #64 on: June 21, 2006, 12:48 AM »

hehehehehehehehe

hello

Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #65 on: June 21, 2006, 12:51 AM »

Chinani,

Please forgive me for being dismissive of your point. As a 1 on 1 point, your right. It would match my argument. However when points are equal then it means there is no room for the argument to go forward.

Unless I went off on a tangent of innuendo's and rumors and reputations of Nigerian men, which I already eliminated yesterday as a possible response.

So sorry. I understand your argument was stronger than I have chosen to give it credit for.
diddy4 (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #66 on: June 21, 2006, 01:04 AM »

seriously, you have one weird sense of humor and i like it. just stop pissing me off.

hehehehheheheheheheeh---what is that? a laugh or something? Cool
Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #67 on: June 21, 2006, 01:10 AM »

diddy4,

yeah it is meant to indicate sneaky laugh ----  Grin
diddy4 (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #68 on: June 21, 2006, 01:14 AM »

oh i see



hehehehehehehehehehehehehe



how about that for a laugh? Cool Cool


why do u hide this funny nice side of you and show people the arrogant mean side huh?
Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #69 on: June 21, 2006, 03:40 AM »

diddy4,

I don't know.
diddy4 (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #70 on: June 21, 2006, 03:54 AM »

i see, good. i prefer your sweet and funny side. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #71 on: June 21, 2006, 03:58 AM »

I was changing my post as you said that. But still it is okay.



diddy4 (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #72 on: June 21, 2006, 04:10 AM »

that is the side of you i don't like right there. its all good.
Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #73 on: June 21, 2006, 04:16 AM »

diddy4,

Alrighty already. Have a good night, son.

diddy4 (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #74 on: June 21, 2006, 04:23 AM »

have a goodnight, yes

son? no, no way.



have a goodnight mami. Cool
Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #75 on: June 21, 2006, 04:25 AM »

diddy4 (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #76 on: June 21, 2006, 04:27 AM »

lol
anton (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #77 on: June 21, 2006, 05:09 AM »

I don't think we think hard enough about the issues that surround us.

What would happen if all the blacks saw each other as family.  Us in the most powerful nations in the world; mostly fully integrated in the military, economic and political structures, versed in the sophistication that runs it, combined with the raw talent and hunger from the Continent and South American, augmented with the access to financial capital in and the untapped oppurtunities for developments everywhere we call home,   the answer is obviously a global superstate that spans both political and economic lines.

But to the problem:  African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?

I think everyone here that perceives the problem is to blam.  I, for one am guilty.  I am too open.  I use to think that every Continental was down with Pan Africanism and serious liberation work.  Now, I understand that I must be very careful in who I approach and how I approach them.  I automatically thought that everyone from the Continent was a highly sophicated well read African Soul MAAAAANNNNN!!!!!! (or SOUL WOOOOOMMMAAAANNNN!!!!!(^_^)

Unfortunately, that just isn't the case, the same way every person over here isn't well versed in African Spirituality, History, Politics, and Culture, or even cares for that manner.

The overwhelming problem is too many chocolate covered crakas on both sides of the table and this includes the UK. and uropean blacks.  That too, is not addressed.

I always say to Continentals, if you want to deal with Africans who were born in America, seek out the African Centered Book stores and Community Organizations.  If you are in Raleigh, NC check out Blacknificent Books, and The Know bookstore and see Anton, live in 3D.   Kiss  Even if you are not in a big city you can check out LIB Radio at www.libradio.com.

Continentals expecting the average unread ghetto person to understand being african is like expecting the average rural village person to understand being america.

My Queen is from Seirra Leone so i get all the good cooking!!! Binck, Akara, groundnut soup, sour sour, cassava, fufu!!!  YEAH!  Anybody ever had plantains fried in palm oil?  THAT is sum good eatin. (^_^)
Hero (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #78 on: June 21, 2006, 05:13 AM »

To the Lovebirds up top:

Damn, why don't you two just exchange #'s, hook up, and do the damn thing already. Enough of the verbal foreplay. Yah Damn Pups!! Too much yappin and so little action; put a bone in it already, and go chase each-other in circles elsewhere, then come back when yah big dogs, like me.  Cheesy
diddy4 (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #79 on: June 21, 2006, 05:16 AM »

Quote from: Hero on June 21, 2006, 05:13 AM
To the Lovebirds up top:

Damn, why don't you two just exchange #'s, hook up, and do the damn thing already. Enough of the verbal foreplay. Yah Damn Pups!! Too much yappin and so little action; put a bone in it already, and go chase each-other in circles elsewhere, then come back when yah big dogs, like me.  Cheesy

funny. Cool Cool Cool
Hero (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #80 on: June 21, 2006, 05:35 AM »

Quote from: diddy4 on June 21, 2006, 05:16 AM
funny. Cool Cool Cool

Don't front; you know you like her. You're just still scared of girls.  Wink Ask her for her E-mail so you can chat more privately and exchange numbers. I can tell that she likes you too, and is waiting on you (the guy) to make the first move. Yeah, I know; she's an AA, but not all of them are aggressive.

Don't be scared; take charge and tell her,  "Chick, I'm a BOSS!! I know you feel me pushin up on that, so whatcha going to to do wit dissss Pimpin, Lil Mamma?"  Cool AA girls love that kind of thug talk. She'll melt all over you with that line, Playa!! Don't be scurrrrd; do it-to it!!  Cool
mochafella (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #81 on: June 21, 2006, 05:38 AM »

Quote from: Hero on June 21, 2006, 05:35 AM
Don't be scared; take charge and tell her,  "Chick, I'm a BOSS!! I know you feel me pushin up on that, so whatcha going to do wit dissss Pimpin, Lil Mamma?"  Cool AA girls love that kind of thug talk. She'll melt all over you with that line, Playa!! Don't be scurrrrd; do it-to it!!  Cool

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
diddy4 (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #82 on: June 21, 2006, 05:57 AM »

Quote from: Hero on June 21, 2006, 05:35 AM
Don't front; you know you like her. You're just still scared of girls.  Wink Ask her for her E-mail so you can chat more privately and exchange numbers. I can tell that she likes you too, and is waiting on you (the guy) to make the first move. Yeah, I know; she's an AA, but not all of them are aggressive.

Don't be scared; take charge and tell her,  "Chick, I'm a BOSS!! I know you feel me pushin up on that, so whatcha going to to do wit dissss Pimpin, Lil Mamma?"  Cool AA girls love that kind of thug talk. She'll melt all over you with that line, Playa!! Don't be scurrrrd; do it-to it!!  Cool

you are one funny guy but im not like that plus i aint looking for a little mama. if not, i would have gone for her. Cool Cool
diddy4 (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #83 on: June 21, 2006, 06:01 AM »

we just had an argument, nothing personal. im cool with her and her weird sense of humor.

waiting for chinani to perfect her cooking skillz. Cool Cool
Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #84 on: June 21, 2006, 06:31 AM »

Hero,

Quote
Don't be scared; take charge and tell her,  "Chick, I'm a BOSS!! I know you feel me pushin up on that, so whatcha going to to do wit dissss Pimpin, Lil Mamma?"   AA girls love that kind of thug talk. She'll melt all over you with that line, Playa!! Don't be scurrrrd; do it-to it!! 

 Grin

I thought you were serious for a minute.  Cheesy    Grin   
chinani (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #85 on: June 21, 2006, 09:02 AM »

@Drusilla
No problem. A little innuendo keeps things interesting.

@Anton
 Shocked I didn't know people in Sierra Leone eat cassava & fufu too. I like your point. We're all to blame & I nominate my cultural ignorance. I think small misunderstandings can lead to hurt feelings & after that prejudice starts to build & our communities are suddenly antagonistic. As for Akara? Grin Reminds me of childhood; the word makes my heart sing. Eat one for me. Wink

Quote from: mochafella on June 21, 2006, 05:38 AM
Quote from: Hero on June 21, 2006, 05:35 AM
Don't be scared; take charge and tell her,  "Chick, I'm a BOSS!! I know you feel me pushin up on that, so whatcha going to to do wit dissss Pimpin, Lil Mamma?"  Cool AA girls love that kind of thug talk. She'll melt all over you with that line, Playa!! Don't be scurrrrd; do it-to it!!  Cool
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Na wa o! This man - Mochafella - hasn't contributed 20 kobo to the topic but he's steady lurking, lurking collecting dating advice! *Hisses* *Rolls Eyes*
anton (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #86 on: June 21, 2006, 05:09 PM »

Ummmmm, Akara,  Smiley

The thing to remember Sis Chinani is that five, six, seven hundred year agos, we were all apart of the same empires so many of our diets, spiritual practices, cultural nuaces etc are very very similiar.

It is that history, (My Story)  that I feel we all should really look at to try to come up with practical solutions to this problem.  At many of those points, we were ONE.  We are poised to be Number 1 on this planet for a long time to come, but we got to put in the Work.

Continentals should also do a little research on the Gullah folk down in South Carolina USA.  I don't like to hear all this no culture talk and nonsense.  Obvious things like the drum, and the tongue, obviously were taken but many of the old ways remained and I am always pleasently surprised when in my studies of various West African cultures I find something that us over here have continued to do since before the Maafa, through the lynchings and persecution.

The other misconception of the "lack of culture" arises out of the fact that most Continentals only deal wit what I call city folk.  The period of the "great migration" that occurred from the 20's up the the 60's saw a great movement from the southern rural economies to the northen industrialized economies.  Many (most) of these jokas then saw themselves as "sophisticated" and "cosmopolitan" urbanites and sought to shun their southern roots, and drop all the home training they had received.  That is one of the main reasons you see all the savagery in the great metropoles.

Case in point on the presence of culture:  put "Otha Turner" into your search engine to learn how the traditional fife and drum music of West Africa survived the middle passage to end up in missippi and in rolling stone magazine.  I hear the same type of music on the live356 yoruba drumming station.  Sadly, Happily, Baba Turner is now an Ancestor, but I think he illustrates my point perfectly.

The Old Empires are within us all.

Songhay, Dahomey, Ghana, Mali, and Jolof are not dead, only asleep.

Pinch yourself.
chinani (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #87 on: June 21, 2006, 05:49 PM »

True talk Anton. Smiley
Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #88 on: June 22, 2006, 02:58 AM »

Anton,

There is a lot of debate as to what exactly 'culture' is.

Most people see culture as external articles, what you eat, what you wear, what you share with others near by.

I accept these in general, because without this idea, then most people would not understand you. Since this is what they believe culture is.

I however reject this as fundamentally being culture.

If that is what culture is, then African culture is easily purchaseable at any Walmart. Get you some Fufu and Akara and throw on some African clothes and heck your African.

Obviously then there is something more to culture that is not bought at Walmart and is not so easily lost just because you arrived naked on the shores of America.

I reject the idea that some recipe or some outfit will make one African or not African.

We are all Africans.
anton (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #89 on: June 22, 2006, 04:27 AM »

Even tho I am not a total subscriber to all of his work, I like the way Neely Fuller puts it:

Culture is merely what you are doing at a given time:  If you are robbing liqour stores or running internet scams then that is your culture.  If you are developing institutions for the benefit of African People or working to eradicate your people's poverty than that is your culture.

I try not to deal with too many debates and instead go for the most logical and concrete observation available.

Quote from: Drusilla on June 22, 2006, 02:58 AM
Anton,

There is a lot of debate as to what exactly 'culture' is.

Most people see culture as external articles, what you eat, what you wear, what you share with others near by.

I accept these in general, because without this idea, then most people would not understand you. Since this is what they believe culture is.

I however reject this as fundamentally being culture.

If that is what culture is, then African culture is easily purchaseable at any Walmart. Get you some Fufu and Akara and throw on some African clothes and heck your African.

Obviously then there is something more to culture that is not bought at Walmart and is not so easily lost just because you arrived naked on the shores of America.

I reject the idea that some recipe or some outfit will make one African or not African.

We are all Africans.

True, we are all africans but then you have to ask yourself: "Where is that getting us?"  I have seen many Continentals display the same behavioral tendancies as negros over here who want nothing to do with africa.  I am getting to the point where its basically "Who cares what you are or where you were born?  How much work are you putting in to be Free so future African babies are born free and happy?" 

a kneegro is a kneegro (^_^)
chinani (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #90 on: June 22, 2006, 04:30 AM »

And what's a kneegro?
anton (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #91 on: June 22, 2006, 04:50 AM »

A kneegro is what we call a black person who is accomandating to those who does not have his best interest at heart.  A person that presents themself as sophisticated but at the same time displaying symtoms of self hate.

Most will write it as needtogrow.  Not the same use as Negro.  And now you know!
Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #92 on: June 22, 2006, 09:58 AM »

Anton,

You have mail.  Cheesy
anton (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #93 on: June 22, 2006, 02:16 PM »

OMFG!!!

And its not a scammer!

HOLY!!!!!

(^_^)
Drusilla (f)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #94 on: June 22, 2006, 02:19 PM »

Anton,

Really. Don't mind me, I have now decided to reverse course and play the devil's advocate.
anton (m)
Re: African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?
« #95 on: June 22, 2006, 03:30 PM »

Question:  African Americans Vs Africans, Who Is To Be Blamed For This Dissension?

You know you could also answer it by saying "Everyone who fears the true potential of the African Collective."  That way, you don't place undue blame on any one element, instead acknowledging the distribution of cause and effect that is the foundation of the "Why?" we are where we are presently.
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