The Story Of Noah's Ark Is The Most Unbelievable Biblical Story Ever Told

I don't know why i ended up reading the story of the Noah's Ark recently but honestly this is most disjointed and hopelessly unbelievable story that has ever been written and to make matters worse, its in the bible and christians say the bible is the word of god which in turn makes the bible more unbelievable every given moment.

For a refresher course, i have to recite what god wrote:

Noah's flood is described in the Bible's book of Genesis, chapters 6 through 9. Here are two quotes from these chapters that touch on the high points:

So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out. This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high. Make a roof for it and finish the ark to within 18 inches of the top. Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks. I am going to bring floodwaters on the earth to destroy all life under the heavens, every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish. But I will establish my covenant with you, and you will enter the ark-you and your sons and your wife and your sons' wives with you. You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you. Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive. You are to take every kind of food that is to be eaten and store it away as food for you and for them."
Noah did everything just as God commanded him.

And:
On that very day Noah and his sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth, together with his wife and the wives of his three sons, entered the ark. They had with them every wild animal according to its kind, all livestock according to their kinds, every creature that moves along the ground according to its kind and every bird according to its kind, everything with wings. Pairs of all creatures that have the breath of life in them came to Noah and entered the ark. The animals going in were male and female of every living thing, as God had commanded Noah. Then the Lord shut him in.
For forty days the flood kept coming on the earth, and as the waters increased they lifted the ark high above the earth. The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water. They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet. Every living thing that moved on the earth perished-birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.

The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.

Does this story make sense? Did this really happen? Did 8 people really build an Ark that is 450 feet long and 75 feet wide? Did an omniscient God write this story, or did primitive cattle herders make it up out of thin air? Let's think it through using common sense and realise that these passages are make belief stories that have been embellished in the consciousness of man for a while but honestly its time to wake up from this slumber, Haba!  I don't know how a rational human or christian would be able to honestly explain this biblical gaffe! 

Heheheeheeeeee! I knew it was just a matter of time before the DELUSIONAL CHRISTIAN SQUAD throws out one of its errant body guards and guess what its a female member! Its makes it more palatable to verbally rape you and throw you back to your delusional squad and help you and your fellow christian cohorts to come back with a more plausible argument.


Hmm, laziness and lack of skills huh! and also determination on the part of 8 people huh!

Rubbish

The ship was stated to be 450 feet long and 75 feet wide and 45 feet high? right! now see the idiocy of your claims of dtermination and skill!

1. Wood is not structurally stong enough to build a vessel of that size. Even iron and bronze are too weak. You have to have modern steels to build a ship that big that won't break in half at the first wave. Even the navy's of the world tried building larger wooden ships in the early 19th century and proved by experiment that they aren't sound talkless of 8 people in 4,350 B.C. Besides how many FORESTS not bushes did Noah and his 3 sons have to have destroyed to build this gigantic thing?

2. The Bible tells us of the way humanity was rescued from the flood by a man called Noah, who was forewarned of the flood by God, and was instructed to build a large boat, or Ark, in which he should carry two (or more) of every kind of living thing. (Genesis 6:9 et seq.). The Bible also tells us the dimensions of the Ark; "This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high. Make a roof for it and finish the ark to within 18 inches of the top. Put a door in the side of the ark and make lower, middle and upper decks." (Genesis 6:15-16). We are also told that the rain lasted for forty days and forty nights, after which the flood waters lasted a further 150 days. That makes a total of 190 days for which Noah and the animals were living inside the Ark.

Let us examine this account, and see if it is plausible. Firstly we will examine the case for building such a vessel, and then we shall examine the plausibility of gathering and storing all these animals at the story claims.


Boat building is a very difficult and skilled discipline. The Bible does not say if Noah had any profession, or indeed if he had any previous experience at boat building, but let us assume for sake of argument that he was fully proficient.

Building a boat of that size on his own would have been quite a task. Let us assume that his 3 children also helped too, reducing the time by a factor of four. Sadly the Bible doesn't tell us how long it took to build the Ark ( Contrary to stillwaters claim that it took decades)  , (Another silly example of how christian apologists fabricate stories and facts and if left unchecked for the next 20 years could find its way into the bible, lol)  but we could at least estimate it. Bear in mind that Noah would not have had access to any sort of advanced tools, probably not even a saw.

Now this boat has to be strong enough to hold elephants and the like. Let's estimate how much wood this would take.

Well the boat was 450 feet long. Let's assume an average tree is 30 feet tall and three feet thick. That means that, just to build the outside of the boat we would require over two hundred tree trunks. That's assuming they just use the tree trunks without splitting them - remember we're dealing with elephants here so the wood needs to be pretty strong. Now Noah didn't have modern tools, so we could probably say that it would take him the best part of a day to chop down a tree, chop off all the side branches, neaten it up and carry it back to the Ark. That means he's spent two thirds of a year just chopping down trees. That's ignoring the fact that moving all that wood a significant distance is going to become prohibitively difficult. Trees weigh an awful lot.

Building a modern ship takes years. The QE2, for example, took over two years to build in a large commercial dockyard employing thousands of people with modern equipment. Here we're considering one man and his three sons without so much as a screwdriver to their name. This is going to take an extremely long time. During that time the Ark would have needed to be waterproofed, protected from the many different kinds of problem to which wood is susceptible such as woodworm and mildew, and also protected from vandals and troublemakers intent on destroying Noah's project.

Furthermore, wood is not a particularly strong material, compared to modern ship-building materials such as steel. To build a boat of the dimensions indicated in the Genesis story seems impossible without some sort of metal framework holding it together.

Finally, the largest wooden ship ever built was the US.S. Wyoming, built in the first decade of the twentiath century with modern shipbuilding methods. It was more than 100 feet shorter than Noah's ark is claimed to have been. This ship represented a tremendous feat of engineering, and posed several substantial construction problems. Most notably, it required large iron strapping for support, just to hold the boat together. There is no possible way Noah could have built a boat 450 feet long which held together under its own weight, let alone also carried hundreds of thousands of animals, and floated on the tempestuous seas of the Biblical flood!

As an very amusing illustration of how difficult it would be for Noah to have built a boat of the dimensions given in the Bible, this page describes a modern attempt to rebuild the Ark according to its given dimensions. Note the following requirements;


3,000 tons of cement
Five bulldozers
76 cement pillars
34 sway-brace pillars
4-foot high, 9-inch wide foundation wall
Steel reinforcement rod
Anchor bolts
Substantial steel superstructure

This will take at least 29 years to construct. Then how on earth did Noah and his 3 kids plus women, heheehe construct this ark especially bearing in mind that slob Noah was probably getting old?


As you continue thinking about it, the questions keep coming.

For example, how did Noah build the boat? How could four men and four women find, harvest, season, transport, cut, shape, assemble and seal all of the trees needed for a ship 450 feet long and 75 feet wide? That is a huge ship. For comparison, the Mayflower (which brought the Pilgrims from England to America) was only about 95 feet long, 25 feet wide and displaced 180 tons. [ref] The Mayflower was a big boat able to hold over 100 people, but it was a tiny dot compared to the ark.

Using the simplest multiplication, the ark would encompass about 14 Mayflowers, and would therefore weigh at least 2 1/2  million Kilograms. However, because the ark is so much larger, it would have to be far stronger than the Mayflower, making it far heavier. The very largest ships built at the height of the wooden shipbuilding era (the late 1800s) had a maximum keel length of about 250 feet, and the ark is nearly twice that big. This was an amazing vessel. And it was all built by four men and four women.

It is impossible to imagine that eight people could build a boat that big. It is also impossible to imagine a 450 foot long wooden vessel.

The most idiotic aspect of this story has to do with the age of Noah at that time.

The first solution can be found with Genesis 5:32
And Noah was five hundred years old and Noah begot Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Unless Noah had triplets we can look at this passage and determine that Noah began to have the first of these three (important) sons at the age of 500.

We can determine that Noah did not have triplets from Genesis 10:21

And children were born also to Shem, …,the brother of Japheth the elder.

The above can also be translated as ",the older brother of Japheth."
So we don't know for certain if Shem was the oldest, middle, or youngest. We do know that there was an age gap between at least two of the brothers mentioned in 10:21

We could conclude from the data that Shem was born when Noah was 502 years old, and Japheth or Ham were born when Noah was 500 years old.

Imagine a 500 YEAR OLD MAN BUILDING AN ARK THAT BIG

C'mon this has to be the greatest hocus pocus ever told to man kind and the worst part is that i havent even dwelt on the number of animals and space it would require to hold 2 animals of all kind and the feeding!

So much for still water and her laziness and determination.

Better go back to your pastors, priests or motivational speakers or who ever to educate you more and provide more ammunination to back up this biblical fallacy because so far, your embarrassing your christian community when you can't even defend what your faith preaches, lol

Haaaaaaaaaaaa

And to think Billions of christians world wide actually believe in such insanity speaks alot about their state of mind and grandiose delusions.

 

The best part of it is that whenever something embarassing springs up from the bible that is unexplainable, they quietly withdraw to their shells and say "god know best" "we shouldnt question his work or story" even if the story is too unbelievable to be true and the height of mumbo jumbo!

Shame on you christians, shame on you!

This is definately the height of idiocy. You really cannot even offer a whimper of hope to your fellow christian army by coming out with a tangible defense to negate this grossly unbelievable story of Noah's Ark, instead you choose to beat around the bush by talking about sexism and being a female blah blah blah as if that has got anything to do with the lies that christians spew out everyday.

What is more reprehensible is the way you choose to dodge the bullet with innuendoes like dancing with native costumes and only imbecilic minds can stoop so low to try and reverse a topic that doesnt even show an iota of intelligence in your supposedly impeccable gift of christian garb!

Besides your poor knowledge of the English language should also be likened to the primitive goat herders that wrote the bible. if i remember correctly i said i would "VERBALLY RAPE YOU" I choose my phrases correctly and if you don't understand what it means, then i can safely conclude that your from the poor school of knowledge just like your biblical authors.

Anyway staying with the topic at hand, you actually are a very very poor imitation of a christian apologist. For you to confirm that a ship that large can be made with wood alone without it posing any difficulties really shows how dense you are just like your biblical authors. With the over whelming evidence to show how impossible and implausible it is, you still retirate such banalities which much aplomb, lol, How laughable!

Also talking about being delusional is something you should consider very very seriously. I have said you and all the christian apologists are delusional to buy into such mumbo jumbo like the ark and the burden of proof is on you to tell me am wrong and point out how delusional i am in my thinking, but instead, you go down without a whimper of a fight and give me the most ridiculous answer ever conjured by a christian before and you still expect me not to believe that your an upgrade in delusional matters?

Also i have heard of jesus, buddah, janus, venus and a host of imaginary pagan gods and the fact that you asked me whether i have heard of him still makes me wonder if you just read your bible like a zombie without asking any rational questions? I have more than enough proofs to show jesus doesnt exist just like leprechauns, zombies, vampires and Santa Claus. So if your telling me whether i have heard of jesus, i really have to question your state of mind and probably pass you off as a nut -job!     

Once again grow out of your ignorance and explain why the ark is not the most senseless story you have ever heard instead of beating around the bush aimlessly and taking that ever tired christian excuse of ignoring the question when you don't have a plausible answer to defend a faith you so hypocritically love to expound to people just as ignorant as you!

Psssssssssssfffffff!

p:s:I Am still waiting for the threat that you said you won't take kindly with me! Anyway i wont be suprised. Its a christian thing. Remember god said "Vengeance is mine"

METAPHORICAL!

I wonder what the pope, pastors or church ministers would say after reading your post

I guess that sums it up nicely to say the whole bible is just a literal piece of fiction or unrefined senseless garbage that shouldnt be taken seriously since it is largely filled with metaphorical stories that would largely confuse your head if you for one minute think of it as a true life story. The story of Noah's Ark is just a classic example of how extreme man kind has been bamboozled to believe such hypocrisy by christians and pointing it out seems to embarrass them even more especially when no one ( Not even the self professed Jehovah witnesses, pentecostal fundamentalists, catholic rabble rousers or white garmenters, lol, May be Imams have a better explanation for this since it totally devoid of logic) can come up with such a tangible defense.

Am glad some christians can actually speak the truth for once no matter how hard it might seem and painful to christian apologists.

The bible can be likened to the Charly Boy Show's slogan which says "If you believe anything that is in there, you definately must get your head Checked"  

do you know Sun God, IMHO, if u lived in Noah's time, you certainly would have missed the ark and drowned!!!

@ Sun God,
funny enough a lot of church priests and scholars - even in the Catholic church - have reservations about some of the stories in the Bible. All you need to do is discuss with someone who has actually been to a seminary or studied Bible theology. If you discuss this topic with many members of "new" churches you probably will not get insightful discuss.

In summary like I said I think the message of Christianity should be seen in the life and lifestyle of the Christian and not in endless argument about literal meanings to Biblical stories.

Do you guys know the said Noah was an albino? I think there's a priory of sion member here and i think it's Sun God,kind of strange username and strange topic to begin which concerns the concept of Christainity and the sovereignity of the bible.

@carlosein

Your probably right. Since god had a strong bias for young men under the ages of 500 like Noah or his sons who were around 100 and something. There was no way a young man either good or bad would have escaped into the ark. Lets not even think of the over 4,000 species of animals in the ark that finally made it almost impossible for anyone to enter.

Even if jesus was around then, he would have still massacred him too. jesus was definately less than 100 years. It was just a plain bias again old men V youthful trendy and urbane young men and women. Talkless of the infanticide that he commited against babies, Pheeew, What a repugnant god to follow!

@frizy

I will try and gloss over your convoluted grammar and try to make sense of what you have just written. It may be hard sha but i go try, sigh!


So in a nut shell, your saying islam came last since it was the last faith to have any iota of thinking to establish its own first? Ok i will take you for your humility

And trust me, the messages passed by moses and jesus are the most primitive and grossly unbelievable messages ever trumped up anyone. Your doing your faith no good by refering to the quoran as messages from primitive goat herders.



Hmm this is also an interesting preposition, bearing in mind the christian faith is totally the king of a plagiarized version of pagan faith which actually brings nothing new in any way.

Some people actually believe that just because so much voice and ink has spread the word of a character named Jesus throughout history, that this must mean that he actually lived. This argument simply does not hold. The number of people who believe or write about something or the professional degrees they hold say nothing at all about fact. Facts derive out of evidence, not from hearsay, not from hubris scholars, and certainly not from faithful believers. Regardless of the position or admiration held by a scholar, believer, or priest, if he or she cannot support their hypothesis with good evidence, then it can only remain a hypothesis.

While the possibility exists that an actual Jesus lived, a more likely possibility reveals that a mythology could have arrived totally out of earlier mythologies. Although we have no evidence for a historical Jesus, we certainly have many accounts for the mythologies of the Middle East and Egypt during the first century and before. Many of these stories appear similar to the Christ saviour story.

Just before and during the first century, the Jews had prophesied about an upcoming Messiah based on Jewish scripture. Their beliefs influenced many of their followers. We know that powerful beliefs can create self-fulfilling prophesies, and surely this proved just as true in ancient times. It served as a popular dream expressed in Hebrew Scripture for the promise of an "end-time" with a savior to lead them to the promised land. Indeed, Roman records show executions of several would-be Messiahs, (but not a single record mentions a Jesus). Many ancients believed that there could come a final war against the "Sons of Darkness"-- the Romans.

This then could very well have served as the ignition and flame for the future growth of Christianity. We know that the early Christians lived within pagan communities. Jewish scriptural beliefs coupled with the pagan myths of the time give sufficient information about how such a religion could have formed. Many of the Hellenistic and pagan myths parallel so closely to the alleged Jesus that to ignore its similarities means to ignore the mythological beliefs of history. Dozens of similar savior stories propagated the minds of humans long before the alleged life of Jesus. Virtually nothing about Jesus "the Christ" came to the Christians as original or new.

For example, the religion of Zoroaster, founded circa 628-551 B.C.E. in ancient Persia, roused mankind in the need for hating a devil, the belief of a paradise, last judgment and resurrection of the dead. Mithraism, an offshoot of Zoroastrianism probably influenced early Christianity. The Magi described in the New Testament appears as Zoroastrian priests. Note the word "paradise" came from the Persian pairidaeza.

The Egyptian mythical Horus, god of light and goodness has many parallels to Jesus. For some examples:

Horus and the Father as one
Horus, the Father seen in the Son
Horus, light of the world, represented by the symbolical eye, the sign of salvation.
Horus served the way, the truth, the life by name and in person
Horus baptized with water by Anup (Jesus baptized with water by John)
Horus the Good Shepherd
Horus as the Lamb (Jesus as the Lamb)
Horus as the Lion (Jesus as the Lion)
Horus identified with the Tat Cross (Jesus with the cross)
The trinity of Atum the Father, Horus the Son, Ra the Holy Spirit
Horus the avenger (Jesus who brings the sword)
Horus the afflicted one
Horus as life eternal
Twelve followers of Horus as Har-Khutti (Jesus' 12 disciples)


The mythical Messiah is Horus in the Osirian Mythos; Har-Khuti in the Sut-Typhonian; Khunsu in that of Amen-Ra; Iu in the cult of Atum-Ra; and the Christ of the Gospels is an amalgam of all these characters.
 
Osiris, Hercules, Mithra, Hermes, Prometheus, Perseus and others compare to the Christian myth andl served as pre-Christian sun gods, yet all allegedly had gods for fathers, virgins for mothers; had their births announced by stars; got born on the solstice around December 25th; had tyrants who tried to kill them in their infancy; met violent deaths; rose from the dead; and nearly all got worshiped by "wise men" and had allegedly fasted for forty days.

The pre-Christian cult of Mithra had a deity of light and truth, son of the Most High, fought against evil, presented the idea of the Logos. Pagan Mithraism mysteries had the burial in a rock tomb, resurrection, sacrament of bread & water (Eucharist), the marking on the forehead with a mystic mark, the symbol of the Rock, the Seven Spirits and seven stars, all before the advent of Christianity.

Even Justin Martyr recognized the analogies between Christianity and Paganism. To the Pagans, he wrote: "When we say that the Word, who is first born of God, was produced without sexual union, and that he, Jesus Christ, our teacher, was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven; we propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter (Zeus)."

Virtually all of the mythical accounts of a savior Jesus have parallels to past pagan mythologies which existed long before Christianity and from the Jewish scriptures that we now call the Old Testament. The accounts of these myths say nothing about historical reality, but they do say a lot about believers, how they believed, and how their beliefs spread.

In the book The Jesus Puzzle, the biblical scholar, Earl Doherty, presents not only a challenge to the existence of an historical Jesus but reveals that early pre-Gospel Christian documents show that the concept of Jesus sprang from non-historical spiritual beliefs of a Christ derived from Jewish scripture and Hellenized myths of savior gods. Nowhere do any of the New Testament epistle writers describe a human Jesus, including Paul. None of the epistles mention a Jesus from Nazareth, an earthly teacher, or as a human miracle worker. Nowhere do we find these writers quoting Jesus. Nowhere do we find them describing any details of Jesus' life on earth or his followers. Nowhere do we find the epistle writers even using the word "disciple" (they of course use the term "apostle" but the word simply means messenger, as Paul saw himself). Except for two well known interpolations, Jesus always gets presented as a spiritual being that existed before all time with God, and that knowledge of Christ came directly from God or as a revelation from the word of scripture. Doherty writes, "Christian documents outside the Gospels, even at the end of the first century and beyond, show no evidence that any tradition about an earthly life and ministry of Jesus were in circulation."

Furthermore, the epistle to the Hebrews (8:4), makes it explicitly clear that the epistle writer did not believe in a historical Jesus: "If He [Jesus] had been on earth, He would not be a priest."

These early historical documents can prove nothing about an actual Jesus but they do show an evolution of belief derived from varied and diverse concepts of Christianity, starting from a purely spiritual form of Christ to a human figure who embodied that spirit, as portrayed in the Gospels. The New Testament stories appears as an eclectic hodgepodge of Jewish, Hellenized and pagan stories compiled by pietistic believers to appeal to an audience for their particular religious times.

With this in mind, i hope you frizy can comfortably say again that islam is an amalgamation of false pagan pre christian beliefs which the quoran gladly would say is a Confirmation of whatever Scriptures that came before it 



1. No atheist will be so dumb as to interpolate events that never took place and gladly hang unto straws when it is non existent. We think like rational human beings and question the veracity of claims and need evidence to suppose those claims. When it becomes imaginary or shaky, an atheist will gladly step away and not add to the controversy but when the thesist like you continue to hammer that need to follow your religion, we pick out the loop holes and expose your stupidity.

2. No atheist write books without opening the book to scrutiny and criticisms. That is the difference between atheists and religious apologists. We are open to question "how, why, when and what". Religious apologists accept the bible and quoran with such stoic and glibble stuborness that when ever they are faced with mirad of questions about their faith, they only resort to either violence, curses, false prayers, shock and disbelief and are quick to call the person a satanist, athiest, devilish, infidel, anti-christ, your hell will be hotter than the gas cooker, blah blah blah, as if that changes the question of "how, why, when and what"

3. Also am glad you confessed that mohammed was an illiterate because i have being shouting on this forum that these authors were primitive goat herders who saw the world from their very primitive state of mind and cannot be used today to justify the happenings of the mordern day world.

Besides i listen to educated men with loads of rational thinkings and not primitive illiterates like mohammed and all the writers in the bible, pfffffffss  


How can you say your not defending christians and still saying that psycho babble story of noah is true? Talk about being delusional in a tautological way!

Despite all the evidence that i have raised that no one has counter attacked, you still raise your voice to say its true. Kai!



Rubbish! Are you freaking delusional or what???

How can you say that because people do bad things, ( hurricanes,sunami,earthquake occurs)? This is probably more senseless than what those primitive cattle rearers have written in the quoran or bible. How do you justify killing 200000 in hurricane katrina that washed away churches and mosques and destroyed temples and other so called god artifacts especially the killing of good people? Are you saying all the people that died in the hurricane were bad people? Why did pastor bimbo odukoya die in a plane crash?, hmm let me guess she was bad so god couldnt miraculously save her? Bullshit. All the typhoons, twisters, earthquakes, floods and every conceivable natural disaster is caused by god and he is mercilessly wicked to kill people during his fit of tantrums that results in these mishap and you say its because people are evil.


Nonsense!

A murderer is a murder! Both god and hitler are the same thing and he's even worse since the quoran and bible says he is well experienced in being a serial killer that massacred people for over 5,000 years or so So don't even try to pamper god over hitler or saddam or abacha. They all belong to that club of mass murders and killers!

In the book of Exodus chapter 12 verse 28, God writes about one of his early massacres:

So the people of Israel did just as the LORD had commanded through Moses and Aaron. And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died.

Here the death of the children is directly at the hand of God.

In Isaiah chapter 13, God paints this word picture:

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with
arrows.

They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.
What a lovely image.

In Jeremiah chapter 49, verse 20, God paints a similar picture:

Therefore hear the plan which the LORD has made against Edom and the purposes which he has formed against the inhabitants of Teman: Even the little ones of the flock shall be dragged away; surely their fold shall be appalled at their fate. At the sound of their fall the earth shall tremble; the sound of their cry shall be heard at the Red Sea.

In Hosea chapter 13, God paints a similar picture:

Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. Shocking and disgusting

In Numbers chapter 31, God paints a similar picture:

Moses said to them, "Have you let all the women live? Behold, these caused the people of Israel, by the counsel of Balaam, to act treacherously against the LORD in the matter of Pe'or, and so the plague came among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Here Moses, acting as an agent of God, specifies that thousands of male babies and children be killed, as well as thousands of women. The Bible states in verse 35 that the captured women numbered "thirty-two thousand persons in all, women who had not known man by lying with him." This was not a small attack. Tens of thousands men, women and children were massacred.

In Deuteronomy Chapter 3 we find this:

Next we turned and went up along the road toward Bashan, and Og king of Bashan with his whole army marched out to meet us in battle at Edrei. The LORD said to me, "Do not be afraid of him, for I have handed him over to you with his whole army and his land. Do to him what you did to Sihon king of the Amorites, who reigned in Heshbon." So the LORD our God also gave into our hands Og king of Bashan and all his army. We struck them down, leaving no survivors. At that time we took all his cities. There was not one of the sixty cities that we did not take from them—the whole region of Argob, Og's kingdom in Bashan. All these cities were fortified with high walls and with gates and bars, and there were also a great many unwalled villages. We completely destroyed them, as we had done with Sihon king of Heshbon, destroying every city—men, women and children. But all the livestock and the plunder from their cities we carried off for ourselves.

They massacred all the men, women and children in 60 cities at God's request.

Then there is Noah's flood, in which God massacred every single child on the face of the earth.

It is appropriate at this point to speak to Christians, especially the "casual Christians" who go to church occasionally because it seems like the "right thing to do." Most Christians have never read the Bible. They have no idea that the God of the Bible is a huge proponent of slavery, or that God hates women, or that God finds the annihilation of small children so enthralling. Should we, as human beings living in the modern world, be worshipping a God like this? 

Doesn't it feel odd to find all of this material in the Bible? Especially the quote from Moses in Numbers 31. You may recall that the sixth commandment is, "Thou shalt not kill."

What does God have against children? Why would an all-loving, all-knowing being act in this way? In the case of Herod's massacre, a religious person might say, "God had to do it to fulfill a prophecy in the Bible." But that makes no sense, because God could have left the prophecy out.

A normal person, after reading passages like these, is left first with a deep sense of disgust. Any normal human being knows that these acts are monstrous. What we are seeing here is not a loving God, but instead a demonic executioner working at a massive scale. Why would anyone worship this appalling monster?

A normal person then asks the obvious question: Did God actually. But i guess your not normal and extremely delusional to assume god didnt do any of it. So much for a merciful god


This is an extremely senseless post so i'll just gloss over it


Please explain this mumbo jumbo because i don't understand a word of it except the fake allusion to noah who obviously couldnt exist at the age of 600 and still build a 5 million pound ship with only 7 more people.

And as your whining about punishment, punishment exists to correct wrongs and act as a deterrent to future wrong doers. What has wiping out a whole planet got to do with punishment? What has a senseless massacre of pregnant women and babies got to do with punishment?

Please go and throw that book away and read something more constructive  say " harry porter novels". Because you have a long way to go before you reach advanced religious books!

@son god
I commend your logical, sound, and scientific analysis of the Noah story. Unfortunately, the religious ones are already attacking rather than providing a logical counter argument. Do not let them degrade this mind stimulating tread to an arena for religious attacks.
I have points to support the story of Noah, and I will try to make my points logical, scientific and devoid of any religious persuasions. I don't belong to any religion but at the same time I don't think that all the stories in the religious books are fallacies.
There are my points:
1.) The bible has gone through so many translations and it is possible that some things were lost to translation. IE the counting system. Perhaps when the story was written their counting system was different to what it was later translated to. Perhaps what they counted as 450 feet may be only 450 inches when translated to modern counting system. This is also evident in their ages -- perhaps 500 years to them may be only 50 years when translated to modern counting system. After all, today we use the roman callender which was not yet invented during the time of Noah.
2.) Scientific discoveries today point to the fact that there was once a great flood that covered almost the whole earth. I will research on this and give you the scientific write-ups. If you watch discovery channel, they spend a lot of time investigating this great flood. Perhaps this flood was the flood that Noah experienced.
3.) So many ancient cultures of the world tells the story of a great flood that once consumed the whole earth. Although some historians think that it is the same story that was plagiarized by different cultures. But, it could have been that the flood actually happened and was experienced by other societies whose survivors later wrote the stories. This is only logical, since if the flood was worldwide, it couldn't have only happened to Noah's society.