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outlaws (m)
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 Internationally Mercedes is known almost every where in the world. In Nigeria for example in almost every neighborhood you will see one or more people that own a Mercedes unlike BMW. Mercedes is now not only the car of the rich but also the car of the poor unlike BMW. It comes down to the year and model of the car. The rich drive the newer ones and the poor drive the old ones. So, I think both cars are luxury but BMW[black mans wheel] doesn't often make it to a poor mans garage.
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proo212 (m)
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Of course both cars are luxury but BMWs are seen as a sporty alternative to Mercedes in markets around the world more especially in Germany. (BMW drivers have a reputation for being arrogant and stuck up) and that is the nicest way to put it  If you are up and coming and younger, you drove a BMW. If you are 'old rich', you drove a Mercedes. This is changing though, as Mercedes is trying to attract younger buyers (or have been attracting younger buyers for a long time now). If you notice, the designs are easier on the eyes and the cars are definitely challenging BMWs (on par) for pure driving pleasure. I personally think BMW wins in that regard but other people feel differently. I guess Nigerians will need to see BMW in the same light (luxury, reliable and more people aspiring to own one, from base model to top end) Maybe that is what Coscharis has been trying to do all this while
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dcorious
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Hi guys, I couldnt help but contribute to this dicussion. I own a BMW 3 series, i have been driving the brand (BMW) since the late 90s. I ocasionally drive the old man's E class benz, but i promise you i don't get the same satisfaction like i do from my baby. I LOVE THE BM BRAND (always have and always will). No doubt, mercedes makes brilliant cars but nothing for me compares to a BMW. Sincerely once you taste it, it is hard to let go (just like cocaine). I don't think i will ever be able to own any other brand. its going to be BMW for me, my wife and my kids. BMW ROCKS!!!!!!!!  BM4LIFE
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Ivvie
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When it comes to ground breaking technology, innovation, performance and road civilisation, there is no car that outperforms Mercedes. You have ride, performance and road civilisation at extreme speed - this is true engineering. You get a softer and lighter driving feel/experience and no BMW gives that. Another car that comes close to road manner is the Lexus but it offers no performance.
Mercedes now makes the fastest cars in the world. Ev12 is the fastest sedan ever made in the world from a rest/still point; 2009 SLR Mc Laren is the fastest supercar, Estate the E65, G65 is the fastest SUV to date. To mention as well, they go around corners well. In terms of performance, BMW isn't as close.
In terms of luxury and innovation, Benz leads and when innovations become "public domain", other cars copy.
Go to the dealership and test-drive both brands. The refinement is clear without giving second thoughts. Travel 6 hours in a BMW (if you wouldn't be motion sick).
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nkc (m)
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even a vw is better than a bmw 
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brauneyes
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I have been driving mercedes for close to 5 years now and i have not been able to compare the luxury, the finishing and the way it revolves aroung your driving. I could tell if a car is a mercedes or not even if i drive with my eyes closed. I recently bought a new Toyota corolla for madam and she noticed that it doesn't feel the way as the Benz (as she calls it). How could it? My friend has a 5 series BMW and when i drove it, it doesn't have that of sense superb engineering the mercedes has. The dashboard design is lack-luster, who needs orange indicators when you can have it in multi colors. For me, i prefer the mercedes and i have been eyeing the CLS for some time now.
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nkc (m)
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for me
1 = benz
2= vw
3= bmw
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dcorious
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NKC your comments only showcases your ingnorance about cars (bmw in particular), how dare you even think of saying that vw is better than the BMW? There is no basis for comparison. Please be careful where you make such comments as there are places i know where people have been hurt for making such statements. Be warned. You all can feed your ignorance by going through the website bellow. Note that this review was done by professionals and not armchair analyst like us. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/waiting_for_a_bimmer_beater_comparison_test
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Ivvie
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NKC your comments only showcases your ingnorance about cars (bmw in particular), how dare you even think of saying that vw is better than the BMW? There is no basis for comparison. Please be careful where you make such comments as there are places i know where people have been hurt for making such statements. Be warned. You all can feed your ignorance by going through the website bellow. Note that this review was done by professionals and not armchair analyst like us. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/waiting_for_a_bimmer_beater_comparison_testDcorious, I guess he meant Audi. There is no where (that I know of) that MB, BMW and VW were ever compared but Audi in VW's stead. Let's accept it as a error in judgment and slip of keystroke. If he reiterates the VW, then you can dash your 2-cents for such remarks.
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dcorious
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ivvie, I do not doubt the prowess of audi as a brand or even vw. My grouse is that neither of them even including mercedes benz are on the same level with the BMW. I have done research on this topic and all results attest to the fact that BM is supreme. Please view this link to be informed. I will provide more research data if you require it. Please make no mistake BMW RULES!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison_test/sedans/waiting_for_a_bimmer_beater_comparison_testPlease and please take your time to view the link above, study the reviews and analysis before we chat again.
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nkc (m)
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in short, all u guys go bury yur sef, nonsense VW RULES PERIOD 
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dcorious
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this is not a matter of buying rubbish. Available facts, data and information supports confirms that the BMW is "the ultimate driving machine, " numero uno. Please note that the BMW is not meant for everybody. So please keep buying your VWs, toyotas,Hondas and all the other fake ass automobiles and leave BMW for the Big Boys. 
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nkc (m)
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oh, u mean u small boys 
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dcorious
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hahahaaha, Very funny 
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Frando29 (m)
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@dcorios Bimmer for life!!!!!
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Ivvie
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DCorious,
I went through the link and the review wasn't weighed out equally. In the true world, there is no Mercedes alternative to the 330's and 530's. The 330's and 530's are optimised 325 and 525 engines, thus hot-rodded for high pressure - high output performance. The C320 was not designed for performance in any sense. The engine actually was gotten from the S280 sequel series.
The scale would have been balanced if it was reviewed as 325 and C320. C320 is the elegance version and designed for comfort ride quality and fuel economy. The closest would have been the Kompressor version which is sport-tuned with its lowered shell.
Think about it, you cannot compare a car with a dual variable valve - 3-stage intake design to a regular vehicle. I really don't know anything about the other vehicles but Mercedes that I am familiar with has no cold air intake with an elaborate exhaust system.
Do ignore the VW thing - I thought he meant otherwise. The thread (if not careful) will shift away from its intended purpose.
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nkc (m)
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@ivvie worry not, i aint like that, wanted to make him love his car, i love my vw to death, when sport tuned, with supercharger packages, well,hmmm. but d audis r better compared, but when they r supercharged, i will allow siena to ansa that  hope u get my love every car has it benefits so, everyone believes his car is it, but to me the best is finally a BENZ. but i still love Vws. so what i will do is migrate to audi to cool my thirst for power, after i supercharge my passat,lol. Bmw is a cool brand but i hate it for one thing, parts r absurdly expensive
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dcorious
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NkC,True BMW parts are expensive so also are mercedes benz parts. Thats why these cars are not just for any body. Ivvie, I must say i truly appreciate your arguments and your sound knowledge for cars esp for the mercedes benz which you are rooting for. However you must note that the authors of the review are people that are vast in these issue. Did you notice that the Benz and acura had the same engine specs but the acura still beat it to third place. Agreed we are deviating a little from the original aim or purpose of the thread but there are certain facts that need to be pointed out to help contributors form fact based conceptions on which brand truly is #1. Just for entertainment please view this link below. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/luxury/112_0602_sport_sedan_comparison/verdict.htmlPlease note the caption of the review when you open the site, also notice that the Benz had a bigger engine capacity than the other two cars, most importantly note the reviewers verdict on which brand is the most luxurious and the best performer on and off road. I hope the link will finally put to rest the argument on which brand is most luxurious, even though some of us knew the answer from the beginning. I will be glad to provide you with other links if you still don't agree. Cheers.
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waleab
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m. benz all the way. always try europe if you livee around and dealers are great too
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CHANCEMAN
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dcorious, sorry to bust you bubble.All these reviewers are paid so they say whatever they like.When cars are reviewed in America cars like mb and bmws do not even come tops so save that expert crap for novices.Check cars in sales volume and resale values.Anyday benz tops bmw.BENZ LEADS BMW FOLLOWS CHEERS
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Echeozo (m)
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There is no comparison between the two.If you know your 'auto onions' you wouldn't need a prophet to tell you that Mercedes benz is on a class apart. How can you compare the comfort,technology,power,stability,temperature control of the mercedes with bmw. Go for a test drive:take the new C-class out against the new 3-series.The picture you'll see is that of a Horse(merc) against a mule(bmw).
If you have the money always insist on the better choice,MERCEDES BENZ.
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Ivvie
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NkC,True BMW parts are expensive so also are mercedes benz parts. Thats why these cars are not just for any body. Ivvie, I must say i truly appreciate your arguments and your sound knowledge for cars esp for the mercedes benz which you are rooting for. However you must note that the authors of the review are people that are vast in these issue. Did you notice that the Benz and acura had the same engine specs but the acura still beat it to third place. Agreed we are deviating a little from the original aim or purpose of the thread but there are certain facts that need to be pointed out to help contributors form fact based conceptions on which brand truly is #1. Just for entertainment please view this link below. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/luxury/112_0602_sport_sedan_comparison/verdict.htmlPlease note the caption of the review when you open the site, also notice that the Benz had a bigger engine capacity than the other two cars, most importantly note the reviewers verdict on which brand is the most luxurious and the best performer on and off road. I hope the link will finally put to rest the argument on which brand is most luxurious, even though some of us knew the answer from the beginning. I will be glad to provide you with other links if you still don't agree. Cheers. On this case, I am not disputing your fact. The 330i is not on any of the cars category it was compared to. It's aparently a tamed race car designed for road use (my defn.). I just termed it an unfair comparison. The BMW indeed sat as king to the other 9 cars because of tier category. The 330i is "hot rodded." The 9 others aren't. It's just my opinion. The reviewers did review right ( I have nothing to dispute on that) but not on fair terms. Per Infiniti - I didn't understand the intended message when it was pointed that brakes were grabby. Can someone shed light on what the point of view was?
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Ivvie
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@ivvie worry not, i aint like that, wanted to make him love his car, i love my vw to death, when sport tuned, with supercharger packages, well,hmmm. but d audis r better compared, but when they r supercharged, i will allow siena to ansa that  hope u get my love every car has it benefits so, everyone believes his car is it, but to me the best is finally a BENZ. but i still love Vws. so what i will do is migrate to audi to cool my thirst for power, after i supercharge my passat,lol. Bmw is a cool brand but i hate it for one thing, parts r absurdly expensive I must admit, I thought you were being silly - my apologies though. It sounded like you were trying to pass some humour. I have no doubt in Audi AG's revolution in the auto world. I'm currently investigating the race inspired 3.6L V8 FSI engine dual turbo (2001) for R8. It's worth sitting down for.
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YoungBrain
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My advice "Admire d Benz but use d Bemma 4 life"
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nkc (m)
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@ivvie
nice one on audi, i like been funny, gat no time to argue. funny things is every expert has a bias
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Siena
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This thread is NOT about engine performance, or technology.
It's about luxury. Luxury means different things to different people.
For me, I'D say Mercedes. BMW is more of a driver's car, but for sheer luxury, the Mercedes beats it hands down, in my opinion.
Please, let's not turn this thread into a technical debate, because, it isn't one.
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nkc (m)
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in terms of luxury only = benz
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dcorious
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Chanceman, You comments show that you are a true Nigerian, believing that there is a conspiracy in any article that tries to deliver true and unbiased judgment about a product or service. I don't blame you for your perspective on this issue its just a mirror of the general attitude of people to issues like this in our society. I advise that you try to trust that not all reviews are paid for by manufacturers, when you do this you will be opening yourself up to a wealth of information and knowledge. Even after i provided severals links to prove my point you still doubted. When it comes to care sales and resale volume which was the in dices you suggested should be used to judge between Benz and BMW please visit www.forbes.com for the information (i hope you wont say BMW paid forbes too for the review). ECHEOZO, I understand your sentiments towards the BENZ brand, but i believe if you truly want to prove your point you should be able to show proof other than your own experiences and opinion (this is what i have tried to do from the beginning). Its not just saying BENZ or BMW is better please PROVE IT with facts and data (whether the facts are paid for or not). NKC,Everyone knows that ", all work and no play gives tom a heart attack". Thanks for the comic relief you posted in the thread by comparing BMW and VW it was nice. I couldn't help but laugh each time i remember your contribution. Ivvie, I read your views with admiration for your open mindedness and clear knowledge on this topic, But you must admit that BMW is a little under rated when compared to the benz. Sienna, You have a point. This thread appears to have shifted slightly away from the key issue (LUXURY ) not performance. I hope the link below if viewed by people that have the time and have been arguing off point will put to rest the question on which is better in that regard. The link compares BMW and MERCEDES based on luxury,performance, design and general customers preference for both. I guess i don't have to tell you who won. http://sssiva03.wordpress.com/2007/12/18/bmw-vs-mercedes-benz-an-exhaustive-report/Generally speaking, the lower end BMW is more luxurious then the lower end mercedes, but when you go into higher classes, the mercedes shows off its true name to quality. Mercedes is a luxury cruiser and a BMW is a sport sedan. Both have luxury options, but BMW sacrifices some comfort for performance. Please feel free to also check this link http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.complease ensure that you are comparing cars from the same class group. My last comment on this thread Cheers y'all Enjoy. 
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dcorious
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Just got this info and thought i should share it with everyone. Please view the attached file from the world renowned institute of luxury in america.
Enjoy the read.
Please note you can only view the file is you have Adobe PDF installed on your system.
Cheers
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Siena
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Interesting read. Thanks for that, Dcorious.
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nkc (m)
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@dcoriouss nice read up  , don't mind me, i like been funny, but truly u know d truth, vw is better than  ? lol, just kidding, enjoy yur day my friend.
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atilla (m)
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hhhm
i think mercedez benz.
especially with the new ones coming out these days they are smaller beautiful and computerized and leave u with no options--- because everything is there.
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