Christians: Would You Prefer A Muslim Or A White Garment Partner?

The issue with White Garment churches, mormons, or any other group that calls themselves christians isn't they way they dress. It is the things that they believe, and some practices they observe. I believe that being a christian doesn't rob u of your personality, which is influenced by your upbringing and environment. However, when we become christians we are to do away with the anti-Christ things we've learned or are used to. I think some white garment churches carry over some Yoruba traditional whatever into christianity. Using holy water, not wearing shoes, wearing white garments, are not bad in themselves. When the focus shifts from Jesus to the items, that's when u know they have a problem. I don't know all the white garment churches, but there might be some that are still true to the faith. Ppl just tend to group them as one since the well known ones have some unchristian practices.

I saw this maxim in a book on the "christian cults":- In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; and in all things, charity.

I think this is necessary for all Christians. our backgrounds matter a lot in the way we live our christian lives. this usually leads to doctrinal differences, because different ppl tend to place different degrees of importance to different biblical issues. For example, someone raised in a family of native doctors who bcomes a christian may place more importance on casting out demons (since he knows a lot about demonic action) than someone who was raised in a relatively clean (spiritually) environment. As long as we're united (in deed and word) on the fundamental christian issues, we're one. We are not perfect humans and are bound to see things in different perspectives at times.

Let me give an example of how background affects the way we see different issues:- If you listen to several Nigerian and American preachers (or read their books) even though each group may talk about both qualities of God, there is a tendency for Nigerians to dwell on God being a jealous God, terrible, the danger of falling into His wrath etc. While the Americans would very likely dwell on His being a loving God, caring, never forgets His children etc. If you take a good look at our different societies, u would understand why. For one, our traditional African were very much feared, and they usually visited disobedience with punishment. even within our societies/families, children are expected to respect their elders almost to the point of be afraid of them. The American culture on the other hand, is very particular about relationships and broken relationships are very common there. Naturally, ppl who care so much about relationships want to know a God who can give them the love and care they desire.

@ chinani, how do u mean 'ocassionaly looks like santa claus?', i didnt get that. Lol

white garment

I meant "resembles" in character not "looks like". What I mean is Americans say "Please GOD can I have a Mercedes." Not all of them sha. But they pray for material things instead of salvation and GOD's grace. I know, we all pray for things but some people pray for things, as in food, water, housing, school fees, etc. Those who have much, their prayers should be a thanksgiving not a Christmas list. Of course, I can only be so intimate w/ other people's prayers but to me this point of view is widespread in American society.

@beyonce1

I read with interest your misgivings about the white garment church. And I can confirm to you that evenMuslims view them with suspicions. I had a friend attending one of these churches in Ogudu GRA, and the pastor had always told them not to enter a particular room. Now on this day, all of the church members had gone home, but this guy forgot something and went back. He knocked on the door to that room, but heard no response, and so he opened the door. What did he see? The pastor had a rosary like the ones muslims use and was saying some muslim invocations!!! My friend memorized them, then came to me to know their meanings. The pastor told him though not to tell members of the congregation what he had seen.

You know where I am going with this? Well, people are afraid of what they do not know. La illa ha illa Lahu Muhammed rosulu laha means -There is no god, but God, and Muhammed is his messenger. A lot of christians are umcomfortable when muslims speak Arabic instead of english, and I cannot but agree with them that it's unnerving when you do not know what the other person is saying. So, I encourage muslims when they are asked to pray in public where we have other religoius faithfuls present, to pray in English so people hear and understand what they say. Though, the ritual solat-or prayer Muslims say must be in Arabic because an interpretation in english will as experience has shown us in the past, dilute the original meanings, or alter them altogether. That is why, those five daily prayers must be said in Arabic. Now, I have learnt Arabic  to an extent, and if the Muslims were saying evil things, I would not be a muslim now. This is especially as when I was a child, and I went to bible school, my teacher would tell me those muslims worship idols, and the devil. But wheninthe higher  institution, I became a good muslim, I discovered all I was told in bible school was balderdash.

Now, why are muslims afraid of white garment adherents? It's simple,we have mystics in Islam who use the Quran for illegal and unwholesome activities. You know, any word of God has power, but God does not intend that these books be used for evil. But man in his quest for power will use the injeel(Gospel), Sabur(psalms), Taurat(Torah), and the Quran(Koran) for mysticism. And some of the customers of these muslim mystics are other muslims with shaky faith, pastors of white garment churches, and indeed pastors of pentecostal churches. So, we view some of their activities with suspicion.

I would not marry even a muslim girl if I see amulets in her house or any other form of protection or help, which is prohibited and unfounded in Islam (These things are not permitted in Islam). This is only natural because, if for some reason we have a problem extraeneous or internal, she could go and consult these mystics who would give her 'things'to use without my knowledge. And this could compromise my faith. However, I can marry a christian girl because it is permitted in my religion. But she must be chaste, and she'll have to agree that our children would be muslims, if she herself chooses not to be. But before this can take place, I'd have satisfied myself that it's impossible to get a good muslim girl.

So let the debate continue.

Thanks Chinani,

You did not state where this Muslim Student's Association is? I really would like to know. I wish everybody could just treat the other with less suspicion, there would be a reduction of unnecessary rancour that we witness today if this were to occur.

I am glad you did not find those pryers unnerving and would at this point recommend you even try to know the meaning of some of what they said- you will be astounded.

hey afeni so wht are u trying to insinuate tht muslim are no human beings am darmnt sorry 4 u kk nonsense and about the topic beyunce i personally does nut detest them at all dat is d way dey pray to thre god kk

"As a christain i would choose neither, sorry to any cele in the house but i know and have seen first hand the practises in cele and it will make the hairs in the back of you neck stand on ends. I state it is not christainity at all, its a cover for more sinister and bordering on the occult of wicca in nature.

My feeling on churches are we know it,is it is very hard to find a true place of worship, alot are watered down,self serving, places of deceit. if you believe in God/jesus for me its a personal thing . The reason you have so many places given the name church or why there are so many diff denominations is because, people have not taken time to read that bible properly and worship the way God instructed. Its there , they just chose to skim over .Thats why they give you one verse of a chapter for instance ''God says he will bless you exceedingly'' you hear they screaming this one verse not bothering to look at what was said before the verse and after, its most likely God said ''if you obey all my commands'' then i will bless you.
can't really go into it people will have to research it themselves, put it this way cele worshippers come with too much baggage, so do a lot of people who say they are christains. A christain is not what your parents pass down to you, but a true follower of christ"
   

     @nemesisrev
Infact i cant imagine what u r trying to talk about?On what persective r u viewing the issue?on judgement,segregation,discrimation , religious apartheid or what?pls let poeple understand u better!

  that post could win my awards!

as long as they belive in the death and resurection of JESUS christ.The fear of God is the beginnning of wisdom, abi!

Question: Muslim or White Garment Partner?
Muslim
White Garment
I'm not a Christian
 

I choose "Neither."
From the way the question is asked, if one isn't a "White Garment," they're not a Christian. Aparrently, somebody has a very narrow view of Christians. Where i go to church, only the pastor wears a robe over his "duds."

The focus is not on what he is wearing but on God's Word.

For those who are screaming foul and calling this discrimination, you might want to instead take time to ask her what exactly she meant by white Garment church and why her face went pale when her friend said that .


@Poster, as one who attended the white garment church myself as a kid with my mum, I would not go back there even if you offered me gold. I still have nightmares where I see myself being baptized as a two year old at the church, memories I am not supposed to still have access to at my age. Anywho, I have not had much good experience with white garment churches but I do have friends whose fathers believed in the doctrine offered by some of those churches and I saw nothing wrong with them. I do not know your friend much but I know from my experience that I would not go back.

Yes, not everything that screams CHRISTIAN is of Christ. It is all over the bible and we are supposed to keep our eyes and ears open to spot the lies when they approach us. I do not know what white garment church your own friend attends,  but I do know that not all people who say the name JESUS CHRIST are christians. I am going to guess there is a reason why you were surprised that this particular friend of yours went white garment. Do you mind sharing or is it personal??

 I would neither go muslim. Life is hard enough.

To marry a muslim, its a no and to marry a white garment church member its also a no.                                  I attend CCC and a white garment church could be OOO, Sabbath, C&S, Morning Star,Aladura e.t.c. Like i always say alot of christains have no personality, what they have is the personality of their pastors and churches. The world is now in a stage where everyone has to define themselves  either as a muslim, christian, witness, grail messenger, so this has hidden the you in you. This thread is only a controversial one and what is been said here is only based on what people think. My opinion to any sincere brother, sister, father, mother is that do not run anyone down irrespective of their belief until you know who they are. We only end up limiting ourselves and not our creator-GOD at the end of the day. Do you know if that partner has been prepared for an assignment in life and destiny.      My fiance worships at the Christ Embassy, we had our share of heated arguments, views of friends and family. Infact it caused several strains in the relationship but today we have a direction. Another thing i must not fail to tell you guys is this- do not intend to change your partner once you have accepted them. Its only God that has the ability to change anyone.                       @beyonce how would you have felt if your told u she was now a lesbian and maybe in a gay marriage. I'll tell you something if you are still friends let the friendship continue. I have had a wonderful friend who has accepted me even when her other friends ran away from her cos of me. Good friend the bible says sticketh closer than even a brother.                       So i want to see more views.