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lucabrasi (m)
2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« on: April 09, 2008, 09:30 PM »

November produces film on Majek Fashek

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Charles Novia, the man who brought reggae musician, Majek Fashek’s career from the brink back into reckoning is ready to take many more giant steps in his quest to position the musician as one of Nigeria’s entertainment legend.
Convinced that Majek is an indestructible commodity, he has begun a move to produce a film on the life and times of the Edo-state born musician whose career suffered a terrible set-back a while ago. Novia would have a lot of experience to draw from following his successful production of a film on Pastor Enoch Adeboye of the Redeemed Christian Church of God.

This is coming at a time that Majek Fashek has dropped another mega single hit: Am Not Tired. This single, though pre-released in the 90s, is dedicated to the 800 souls that were roasted end of December during the oil pipe blast at Egbeda, Lagos. Majek Fashek, considered the voice of a disenfranchised generation, was on a performance engagement in Calabar when the unfortunate and preventable accident occurred. He quickly returned to Lagos and went to the studios to record this tribute. "This is very sad, my people burning like garbage, can you imagine human beings being roasted like goat, why did the government ran an oil pipeline in a densely populated area without evacuation and medical emergency plans in case of accidents as this, baffles me, my people died painfully. We must mourn them". Am Not Tired holds a lot of promise in the market. The single was recorded, mastered and mixed at Riverdale Records Studios, Ikeja Lagos. Majek collaborated with Nigeria's rising young and talented producer, Serge and music producer, Ed Jatto for this project.

The single hits the radio stations across the nation soon. The video is expected to air on TV stations afterwards. The single and full CD are being released by November Records and November Entertain-ment.
Before his return to US earlier in the week alongside his US/Africa manager Azuka Jebose-Molokwu, Majek thanked Governor Donald Duke and the people of Cross Rivers State for their hospitality and the privilege to perform at this year's Christmas Festival. "It was an honor to perform in this beautiful city, Just when Corporate Nigeria turned their backs on me, Gov Donald Duke and the people of Calabar stood firm and gave me a chance to showcase my creativity to this beautiful state, Gov Duke gave me a chance, He never doubted nor questioned my state of mind and I truly appreciate this".

source;http://www.nollywood.net/vbee/showthread.php?t=940


i saw this article and i was wondering to myself if majek's biography is a right project to undertake when nigeria has soo many stories that will make a good epic,besides he has been given several chances which he blew and i don't think he should be idolised by spending about 2 million dollars making a film about him(as reported on ait)please post your views if you think there are other worthy and eminent nigerians to make a movie about or if you think majek fashek is worth being made a film about
powerofmap (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #1 on: April 10, 2008, 05:09 PM »

He's a great man sha, But don't think an high budget like that should be on a movie of such.We got lots of great story that can be re-make for the World to see.Femi Lasode or so did Sango, Sango can be re-make,story about the Oya,Osun,Jaja of Opobo and so can be re-make.
Instead of spending nonsense money to go to film festival without presenting a better film or not even get an entry.

Luca Bawo ni? Kilo Bo?
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #2 on: April 10, 2008, 06:33 PM »

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i saw this article and i was wondering to myself if majek's biography is a right project to undertake when nigeria has soo many stories that will make a good epic,besides he has been given several chances which he blew and i don't think he should be idolised by spending about 2 million dollars making a film about him(as reported on ait)please post your views if you think there are other worthy and eminent nigerians to make a movie about or if you think majek fashek is worth being made a film about

seriously . . .  what kind of question is this?

has Majek Fashek lived an interesting life?

yes, he has.

could the story of his life form the basis for an entertaining movie?

yes, it could.

so-oooooo . . . what is the issue here? whether or not Majek's *moral* character is up to snuff for you?

you say that he has has many chances and has blown them . . . what does that have to do with them making a movie about him?

who do you think is more worthy of having a movie made about them? please tell.
lucabrasi (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #3 on: April 10, 2008, 08:52 PM »

Quote from: combrazor on April 10, 2008, 06:33 PM
seriously . . . what kind of question is this?

has Majek Fashek lived an interesting life?

yes, he has.

could the story of his life form the basis for an entertaining movie?

yes, it could.

so-oooooo . . . what is the issue here? whether or not Majek's *moral* character is up to snuff for you?

you say that he has has many chances and has blown them . . . what does that have to do with them making a movie about him?

who do you think is more worthy of having a movie made about them? please tell.

there are a lot of people that have lived interesting lives who should be accorded that honour than majek fashek,and i don't really see his story as being that diffrent from thousands of others,because most of his contemporaries all travelled the same time and are still there for one reason or the other e.g victor eshiet of the mandators,mike okri,rub a dub master ras kimono amongst others,and i wasnt talking about his moral character and has to your question for a start fela anikulapo kuti deserves to be made a movie about far more than majek fashek,bobby benson,seal the nigerian born american superstar especially if you knew that he was living in nigeria at a point,was squatting with a guy actually,the suffering he went through and why he didnt come for his parents burial,shade adu and thats just a few while we have pa ogunde who was on the verge of a hollywood movie project before he died,eddie ugbomah amongst just a few  hope that answers your question as its not about hating on majek but if there are other people more worthy,charismatic both in life and death, go to fela's remembrance and you ll see how many people still celebrate it how many presidents have tens of thousands celebrating their remembrance
lucabrasi (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #4 on: April 10, 2008, 08:56 PM »

Quote from: powerofmap on April 10, 2008, 05:09 PM
He's a great man sha, But don't think an high budget like that should be on a movie of such.We got lots of great story that can be re-make for the World to see.Femi Lasode or so did Sango, Sango can be re-make,story about the Oya,Osun,Jaja of Opobo and so can be re-make.
Instead of spending nonsense money to go to film festival without presenting a better film or not even get an entry.

Luca Bawo ni? Kilo Bo?


i dey one side,wetin dey shele men
powerofmap (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #5 on: April 10, 2008, 10:06 PM »

da Prof where have you been? Miss ya been busy too.
Seun (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #6 on: April 10, 2008, 10:41 PM »

why not someone that matters like abacha or ibb or ken saro wiwa?  this is a mistake.
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #7 on: April 11, 2008, 12:52 AM »

Jesus Christ,  i can't believe i'm engaging in this kind of discussion.

"there are a lot of people that have lived interesting lives who should be accorded that honour than majek fashek"

you talk like making a movie of Majek's life is some kind of national award or a state medal or something.

is the movie being made with public funds?

no, it is not. Charles Novia is using HIS OWN MONEY to make a movie about Majek Fashek because HE thinks it would make an interesting story.

if YOU think Seal's life, or Sade Adu's life or Ras Kimono's life would make a better movie, then what are you waiting for? gather together your own money and make your own movie about it!

you're talking like making a movie of someone's life is the Academy Awards where one person wins and everybody else loses. Charles Novia making a movie about Majek does not stop you or anybody else from making a movie about Seal if you think that's so interesting. (good luck convincing Seal to give you permission to make the movie though; i can assure you it will never happen)

and that's another thing: Charles Novia is Majek's manager, so obviously he has a vested interest in promoting Majek in a movie. furthermore, due to his unique business relationship with Majek he will be able to get access to Majek's songs to use in the movie.

(you're talking about making a movie of Sade Adu; i wonder if you know the money you would have to pay to license even ONE Sade song to use in the film will probably be more than the entire budget of the average Nigerian movie!)

so, my guy . . . by all means, make the movie YOU want to make. Charles Novia has seen the story he is interested in telling and he is willing to put his money where his mouth is. he doesn't need people like you to tell him that he "should" be making a movie about Eddie Ugbomah or Hubert Ogunde or Bobby Benson or RoyChicago or Patti Fucking Boulaye.

YOU can make those movies, since YOU find them interesting. unless you are the one sponsoring the movie for Charles Novia, let HIM tell the story HE wants to tell.

and by the way: you saying that "Majek has been given so many chances and blown them all" is even all the more reason why a movie about him would be interesting and even instructional for an audience.


combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #8 on: April 11, 2008, 01:17 AM »

(i just realized that this article is more than a year old--i knew it rang familiar!--why are we even talking about this now?)
lucabrasi (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #9 on: April 11, 2008, 05:38 PM »

Quote from: combrazor on April 11, 2008, 01:17 AM
(i just realized that this article is more than a year old--i knew it rang familiar!--why are we even talking about this now?)

a year old?well i onli saw it on ait like 3 days ago and checked it out on the net.

Quote from: combrazor on April 11, 2008, 12:52 AM
Jesus Christ,  i can't believe i'm engaging in this kind of discussion.

"there are a lot of people that have lived interesting lives who should be accorded that honour than majek fashek"

you talk like making a movie of Majek's life is some kind of national award or a state medal or something.

is the movie being made with public funds?

no, it is not. Charles Novia is using HIS OWN MONEY to make a movie about Majek Fashek because HE thinks it would make an interesting story.

if YOU think Seal's life, or Sade Adu's life or Ras Kimono's life would make a better movie, then what are you waiting for? gather together your own money and make your own movie about it!

you're talking like making a movie of someone's life is the Academy Awards where one person wins and everybody else loses. Charles Novia making a movie about Majek does not stop you or anybody else from making a movie about Seal if you think that's so interesting. (good luck convincing Seal to give you permission to make the movie though; i can assure you it will never happen)

and that's another thing: Charles Novia is Majek's manager, so obviously he has a vested interest in promoting Majek in a movie. furthermore, due to his unique business relationship with Majek he will be able to get access to Majek's songs to use in the movie.

(you're talking about making a movie of Sade Adu; i wonder if you know the money you would have to pay to license even ONE Sade song to use in the film will probably be more than the entire budget of the average Nigerian movie!)

so, my guy . . . by all means, make the movie YOU want to make. Charles Novia has seen the story he is interested in telling and he is willing to put his money where his mouth is. he doesn't need people like you to tell him that he "should" be making a movie about Eddie Ugbomah or Hubert Ogunde or Bobby Benson or RoyChicago or Patti Fucking Boulaye.

YOU can make those movies, since YOU find them interesting. unless you are the one sponsoring the movie for Charles Novia, let HIM tell the story HE wants to tell.

and by the way: you saying that "Majek has been given so many chances and blown them all" is even all the more reason why a movie about him would be interesting and even instructional for an audience.




dude,take it easy and don't take it personal,all i did was make my own views known and what u asked was if there were people that were more worthy of being made a movie about and i gave you some names , why r you ranting,didnt u check your earlier post and what you wrote before going off on one?
he has a right to make whatever movie with his money but i just personally think there are more dynamic,worthy nigerians who have contributed to the nigerian experiment than majek fashek,personally fela would be a better candidate than any of the afore mentioned as he ticks all theboxes and he has fans both black and white,in and outside nigeria and im sure you appreciate the fact that we r all entitled to our opinions Smiley
lucabrasi (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #10 on: April 11, 2008, 05:40 PM »

Quote from: Seun on April 10, 2008, 10:41 PM
why not someone that matters like abacha or ibb or ken saro wiwa? this is a mistake.

ken saro wiwa would have been a good one as well,especially with the message he was passing across,the cause he was fighting for and what is happening now,so it ll be a movie as well as a political awareness thing
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #11 on: April 11, 2008, 06:44 PM »

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he has a right to make whatever movie with his money but i just personally think there are more dynamic,worthy nigerians who have contributed to the nigerian experiment than majek fashek,personally fela would be a better candidate than any of the afore mentioned as he ticks all theboxes and he has fans both black and white,in and outside nigeria and im sure you appreciate the fact that we r all entitled to our opinions

so YOU make that movie.

Charles Novia wants to make a Majek Fashek movie and he knows why he wants to make it.

YOU think Fela would be a better subject for a movie. so MAKE that movie!

(the movie rights to Fela's life have already been optioned by "Hollywood" producers, though . . .  so nobody's going to make a movie about him in the immediate future)

besides, you're talking about Fela . . .  didn't Fela "blow chances" that were given to him? didn't Fela exhibit a lot of poor and irresponsible behavior that eventually led to his death and possibly the deaths of many other people who followed him?

why do you think THAT is so worthy of being honored?
Seun (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #12 on: April 11, 2008, 07:21 PM »

Hint: if the people who are going to watch the movie (i.e. us) think Majek is not worthy, then he's not worthy.  UPDATE: You're right, it's a year old.  Thank goodness the movie was not wasted!
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #13 on: April 11, 2008, 07:41 PM »

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Hint: if the people who are going to watch the movie (i.e. us) think Majek is not worthy, then he's not worthy. 

no, it just means that YOU in particular are not a part of the intended audience, because while YOU might not be interested in it, there are in fact MANY people who would love to watch a movie about Majek Fashek.

granted, i am not one of those people myself, but so what? does everything have to please ME personally? people seem to think that EVERYTHING needs to be made to please EVERYONE. and that's how they end up producing garbage . . . because when you try to please everybody you usually end up pleasing nobody. just recognize who your audience is and focus on them.

let me make it clear here: i am not saying that i think a movie SHOULD be made about Majek Fashek (frankly, i don't think it should . . . not in today's Nollywood anyway. the general industry infrastructure really is not developed enough to produce a convincing or worthy biopic about ANY subject).

my point here is that the REASONS why people are saying the film about Majek should be made are, quite frankly, retarded.

if you tell me that Majek's life is not sufficiently interesting or cinematic, then i'll have no issue with you.

but you telling me that he is not "worthy" because of some personal flaws on his part, or the fact that he "blew chances"? what kind of idiotic reasoning is that?

so was Idi Amin "worthy" then? Hitler? Elvis? Richard Nixon? Larry Flynt?

what makes someone "worthy"? when did this become about rewarding people for their moral character?

man, make an entertaining movie or shut the hell up.
lucabrasi (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #14 on: April 11, 2008, 08:08 PM »

Quote from: combrazor on April 11, 2008, 06:44 PM
so YOU make that movie.

Charles Novia wants to make a Majek Fashek movie and he knows why he wants to make it.

YOU think Fela would be a better subject for a movie. so MAKE that movie!

(the movie rights to Fela's life have already been optioned by "Hollywood" producers, though . . . so nobody's going to make a movie about him in the immediate future)

besides, you're talking about Fela . . . didn't Fela "blow chances" that were given to him? didn't Fela exhibit a lot of poor and irresponsible behavior that eventually led to his death and possibly the deaths of many other people who followed him?





why do you think THAT is so worthy of being honored?

obviously i cannot afford to make that movie or i wont be posting it on here but making my money talk for me,by all means he can as im just expressing my own view and as u can see with the few people that have posted on here you are the only one in agreement.

i don't know where the source of the hollywood producers optioning fela's mvovie rights came from ,but ill appreciate a source or link as i don't believe that.
well maybe you don't know felas  history,but fela was the only authentic export on the same par as bob marley and only death and his family not being knowledgable about marketing and adverts of his memorabilia made him not as known outside nigeria as he should have been,he took strays,runaways and what not into his house and fed and clothed them ncludn giving them a job,and if you go through all his songs in the 70s,80s,you will know he can has predicted everything happening now in nigeria/africa,now i don't know what chance he was given and he blew but i think you v got him mixed up with someone else.

of course fela led a life that was not totally responsible but then when u look at his negatives don't focus on them but check out his positives as well and the impact of the man in nigeria,he has been fighting social injustice before the likes of them gani,falana and co,he left his comfort zone of a priviledged background and chose to chill with the common nigerians and fight for their rights when it wasnt fashionable to do so,and as to him being worthy of being honoured u need to check out the people that recognise and acknowledge fela worlwide,plus the fact that hollywood producers are even interested in the rights to his bio movie even though i v not heard that before has already answered your question,as they saw other nigerians before going for fela.

like the post above said,the general nigerians will be watching the movies and it ll be a shame if the film bombs in nigeria as im sure charles novia's backers will be wary of committing themselves again and if the total funds his solely his then im sure he ll be realli hesitant to commit such funds again and it ll be a waste.
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #15 on: April 11, 2008, 08:36 PM »

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obviously i cannot afford to make that movie or i wont be posting it on here but making my money talk for me,by all means he can as im just expressing my own view and as u can see with the few people that have posted on here you are the only one in agreement.

i don't give a shit if i'm the only one. the majority of people are often ignorant, so i thank God when i find myself in the minority.

i asked you some simple questions:

has Majek Fashek lived an interesting life?
could the events of his life form the basis of an entertaining movie?

if the answers to both of the above questions are "yes," then that should be the end of the conversation.

after that point, it becomes an issue of whether YOU personally are interested in watching a Majek Fashek movie, and that is a matter to be worked out between you and your god.

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i don't know where the source of the hollywood producers optioning fela's mvovie rights came from ,but ill appreciate a source or link as i don't believe that.

do you have an IMDBPro account?

the Fela project has been floating around for years . . .  Will Smith was talking about it shortly after he did Ali. and then they were talking about having Femi Kuti star in it. later, Don Cheadle's name was associated with it. i don't know what the current status is or if it's ever going to get made (probably not) but it is out there.

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well maybe you don't know felas  history,but fela was the only authentic export on the same par as bob marley and only death and his family not being knowledgable about marketing and adverts of his memorabilia made him not as known outside nigeria as he should have been,he took strays,runaways and what not into his house and fed and clothed them ncludn giving them a job,and if you go through all his songs in the 70s,80s,you will know he can has predicted everything happening now in nigeria/africa,now i don't know what chance he was given and he blew but i think you v got him mixed up with someone else.

oh please, spare me.

i am EXTREMELY familiar with Fela's history. i have read every book ever written about him, talked to people who knew him and i am even writing a book right now that deals with him extensively.

Fela blew many chances he had to make an impact. as much as you are trying to compare him to Bob Marley, Fela was never as big as Bob Marley during his lifetime because of his erratic behavior and difficult personality. every time he got the chance to blow up internationally, he ended up sabotaging himself by antagonizing the record label.

and as much as you're talking about Fela taking in strays and runaways, what about how he mistreated the musicians who played for him? have you wondered why his classic Afrika 70 band deserted him in the early 1980s and he had to replace them with the inferior Egypt 80? go and ask Tony Allen whether Fela was paying them . . . instead of paying his musicians, he was spending all his money on a ridiculous campaign to become president of Nigeria.

and then let's not forget about the AIDS thing. with the kind of influence he exerted over his followers, Fela had the opportunity to encourage people to be responsible, to avoid AIDS . . . instead he loudly proclaimed that AIDS did not exist. one of his last songs was called "C.S.S. (Condom Scallywag and Scatter)," in which he mocked the use of condoms and swore that he would never use them, even while he was have sex with several women at the same time.

eventually Fela died of AIDS. who knows how many people he passed the virus to, not to mention all the people who followed his every word and threw away their condoms because he told them to? and today, 10 years after his death, there are Fela followers who still refuse to acknowledge that he died of AIDS and who refuse to accept that they too can die from it.

THAT is what you want to celebrate in your movie, shey?

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like the post above said,the general nigerians will be watching the movies and it ll be a shame if the film bombs in nigeria as im sure charles novia's backers will be wary of committing themselves again and if the total funds his solely his then im sure he ll be realli hesitant to commit such funds again and it ll be a waste.

if the movie bombs, that will be Charles Novia's problem . . .  not yours.

and frankly, if the movie bombs, it will most likely be because it sucked . . . not because Majek Fashek is not "worthy." because if Charles Novia were to make a Fela film, it would probably suck as well, and most likely it would also bomb.

so what exactly is the problem here?

lucabrasi (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #16 on: April 11, 2008, 10:27 PM »

well like i have been trying to reiterate all along in this thread,i personally don't think his life is interesting enough to warrant a film being made about him,neither do i think his story will make the basis of an entertaining movie(note that personally being the operative word here)if going by his life a talented reggea artise goes to the united states,hooks up with the wrong set of people and gets on drugs,soo many people try to help him out yet he goes back to the same old thing,and now he is back on the streets.

my personal view is just that,my own view,its left for charles novia if he feels that sure of the film for him to do it which i don't think he does IF YOU ASK ME as its been floating for a year like you pointed out,that should tell you something about the project.

i don't have the imdbpro account,will appreciate a link or some source tho if you do have to read up on it.

well then if you r writing a book about him,im sure you know that when it comes to fela's independence both artistic and in every other way,fela will rather tell any foreign record company to walk rather than compromise on his ideals and africanness,and i don't see any point here that contradicts or disagrees with my reasons for him not being as great as bob marley,marley may have compromised but fela not compromising doesnt mean he isnt on par with bob marley,personally that is some trait to be admired in a world where most people easily compromise at the smell of dollars or pounds.

dyu know how many people he was feeding,you're talking about him not paying them well,are they not living of the fela brand now there are many drummers better than tony allen but hes gotten so big in france  because of fela,also fela's organisation if i can call it that wasnt about a profit making thing only like the sunny ades,and co, its a movement and ideals but i wont go into that as im sure you knw already,there was an incident i was told when bash ali was trying to spray him with dollars and he politely told him to sit down and as long as you're in fela's shrine,both white ,black,rich poor are all equal where can u get that,how long was the campaign for?hes gone past all that and done other stuffs after the campaign.

the whole thing about the whole song wasnt fela being irresposible,what he stood for all his life was his independent africanness,and thats the whole thing about the condom song,on the flip side how r bout the catholic church against the use of comdoms and other massive christian movements?
if you're on about that note of him dieing of aids,then u need to see his burial video clips which u might have come across where beko was telling all his fans that fela died of aids,so a lot of good has already come out of him dieing of aids and when u know fela's mix of followership,you ll know anything concerning him and beko making that announcement at fela's burial and in toher fela remembrance celebrations will reach more young people that any other public person both dead or alive,so yes that can be celebrated as well cause a positive came out of the negative.

stop getting all personal dude,if you're related to charles novia,im only making my own observations so i know its his biz waxx not mine,and he can't make a fela movie seeing as hollywood producers have the syndicated film rights?as u said
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #17 on: April 12, 2008, 12:57 AM »

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well like i have been trying to reiterate all along in this thread,i personally don't think his life is interesting enough to warrant a film being made about him,neither do i think his story will make the basis of an entertaining movie(note that personally being the operative word here)if going by his life a talented reggea artise goes to the united states,hooks up with the wrong set of people and gets on drugs,soo many people try to help him out yet he goes back to the same old thing,and now he is back on the streets.

well, first of all, you did not originally say that you did not think his life was interesting . . . instead, you were trying to talk about how "there are more dynamic,worthy nigerians who have contributed to the nigerian experiment." so please don't try to change mouth now.

and by the way, if you think that the narrative you described above does not have the potential for a compelling movie, then you obviously do not know much about storytelling.

what is so interesting about Hubert Ogunde's life, by the way? are you more obsessed with the fact that he was an exemplary, "worthy" Nigerian or did he actually have an interesting, cinematic life?

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my personal view is just that,my own view,its left for charles novia if he feels that sure of the film for him to do it which i don't think he does IF YOU ASK ME as its been floating for a year like you pointed out,that should tell you something about the project.

LOL

IF I ASK YOU, you don't think Charles Novia feels sure?

the question here is: why would I ask YOU anything?

Charles Novia is a seasoned filmmaker and businessman who has scored many hits and established a reputation as one of Nigeria's most intelligent, capable and confident directors. and you are. . . .  WHO, exactly?

why would your opinion on the issue even matter? you obviously don't even know the first thing about filmmaking.

you're saying that Charles Novia doesn't know what he's doing because it's been a year since he announced the project. do you know how long it takes to produce a movie of this magnitude? do you think that it's something that you can just shoot in a week and have it in the market the following week?

dude . . .  you clearly don't even understand what it takes to make a project like this (let alone a movie about Fela which would be like 10 times more complicated) so your opinion on this isn't worth shit to me, and definitely isn't worth a thing to Charles Novia.

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well then if you r writing a book about him,im sure you know that when it comes to fela's independence both artistic and in every other way,fela will rather tell any foreign record company to walk rather than compromise on his ideals and africanness,

it hasn't got shit to do with his "Africanness" and everything to do with his personal EGO.

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dyu know how many people he was feeding,you're talking about him not paying them well,are they not living of the fela brand now there are many drummers better than tony allen but hes gotten so big in france  because of fela,also fela's organisation if i can call it that wasnt about a profit making thing only like the sunny ades,and co, its a movement and ideals but i wont go into that as im sure you knw already,

so because he was feeding so many people, he couldn't pay his musicians . . .  but he had money to spend on his crazy ambition to become president of Nigeria, right?

that makes sense!

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the whole thing about the whole song wasnt fela being irresposible,what he stood for all his life was his independent africanness,and thats the whole thing about the condom song,on the flip side how r bout the catholic church against the use of comdoms and other massive christian movements?

man, what the hell are you bringing up the Catholic Church for? what does that have to do with anything?

did Fela fight against condom and encourage his followers not to use them? YES or NO?

you're talking about Catholic Church . . .

shame on you for even trying to justify that kind of ignorance, talking about "Africanness."

okay. . .  so Fela was all about his Africannness.

Fela played trumpet. is that an African instrument?

Fela played saxophone. is that an African instrument?

Fela played electric piano? is that a traditional African instrument?

Fela wore shirt and trouser and shoes. is that how his forefathers in Abeokuta dressed?

so obviously, Fela had no problem adopting elements of Western culture and technology for his own ends. but when it comes to putting on a condom to protect himself from AIDS, his "Africanness" stopped him from doing it!

you must be incredibly stupid to say something like that. i don't want to get into personal insults, but you're really pissing me off.

AIDS is ripping across Nigeria killing people by the thousands and you are telling me about "Africanness."

look . . .  i love Fela. he is one of my heroes. but the fact is that he killed himself, and murdered all the women he had sex with, period.

and you're trying to defend that in the name of "Africanness." do you know how ignorant you sound?

seriously, i'm even more pissed off with myself for talking to you for this long.
Seun (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #18 on: April 12, 2008, 05:45 PM »

Never argue with combrazor.  You can't win, and it doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong. Wink
powerofmap (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #19 on: April 12, 2008, 08:04 PM »

Comb n Luca what happening you guys 're taking it personal why?
lucabrasi (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #20 on: April 12, 2008, 08:32 PM »

@combrazor
dude,i thought you r a chilled out n sensible kind of person thats why i got into all these dialogue,but seems like you always get in a hump and spit out your bib if a discussion is not going your way,i wouldnt dignify all you have written with a reply of equal substance as i don't do insults and like i noted earlier you seem to be taking it personal,if we were standing face to face im sure you ll have gotten violent a long time ago so in order that you ll stop with the insults ill ignore the whole drivel and ill like you to know that in an intellectual discussion,and for something you claimed to have a knowledge of,shouldnt take you this much insults and stuffs to convince me or anyone on here considering im a nobody and a novice as it seems more like forcing your ideas down your listeners throats and apart from the imd pro thingy i havnt seen any shred of evidence to show that you know more than i do yet


Quote from: Seun on April 12, 2008, 05:45 PM
Never argue with combrazor. You can't win, and it doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong. Wink

thanks man,im kind of new so guess im learning the ropes Smiley

Quote from: powerofmap on April 12, 2008, 08:04 PM
Comb n Luca what happening you guys 're taking it personal why?

naw man,nothing personal as i don't know either the novia man,fela or any of the rest lol its all  discussion s Smiley
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #21 on: April 12, 2008, 11:58 PM »

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dude,i thought you r a chilled out n sensible kind of person thats why i got into all these dialogue,but seems like you always get in a hump and spit out your bib if a discussion is not going your way,i wouldnt dignify all you have written with a reply of equal substance as i don't do insults

eh-eh-EH!!! not so fast, Speedy Gonzalez!!

"seems like you always get in a hump and spit out your bib if a discussion is not going your way"

ummm . . . at what point in this exchange has "this discussion not gone my way"?

i discredited you at every turn using pure FACTS and LOGIC.

yes, i called you stupid and ignorant, but not because "the discussion was not going my way" . . .  i called you stupid and ignorant because you say stupid and ignorant things

my sweet, beautiful brother, the fact is that i successfully debunked your half-baked argument on a purely logical basis before i threw the cherry on top by calling you stupid, so don't try to save face by claiming that "you will not dignify me" with a response when you know the truth is that i so thoroughly devastated your position that you HAVE no response.

what other "evidence" are you looking for from me? i demonstrated that your argument of Fela maintaining his "Africanness" was bullshit since he played his music on Western instruments and dressed in Western clothes. and i called you stupid when you tried to offer the ridiculous argument talking about the Catholic Church when i talked about Fela's discouraging his followers to use condoms.

(why do you bring up the Catholic Church? am i Catholic? am i defending the Catholic Church? that's the way a little child thinks: when i point out something bad that you do--or someone you like does, eg Fela--you say "what about these OTHER people who also do bad things?" what's my concern with them? i'm talking to YOU! now, be honest . . .  when you are presenting me with such infantile arguments, can you tell me you don't DESERVE to be called stupid?)

(i think you do. if i said something like that, i would fully expect to be called stupid, and i would accept it!)

and then you try to change the subject by concentrating on me providing evidence for the fact that Fela's story has been optioned . . .  as if that was in any way relevant to the main argument. hey, lucabrasi! you want a hint? YOU'RE ON THE INTERNET!! LOOK IT UP IF YOU CARE THAT MUCH!!!)

so lucabrasi, the lesson we learn at the end of the day is that you really cannot hang with me in an argument, so if i were you i would avoid even talking to me in the future.

and as for anybody who says "you can't win in an argument with combrazor," you are likely right. but that's only because 9 out of 10 times, i will mostly out-think you on a purely FACTUAL and LOGIC level.

however, if you are able to demonstrate to me that my facts or logic are flawed, i am very willing to admit that i am wrong and correct my thinking.

so work on doing that next time you want to lock rhetorical horns with me, okay?

**lucabrasi sleeps with the fishes**


Seun (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #22 on: April 13, 2008, 01:00 AM »

It's because you're only interested in winning and you never get tired.  You don't care about the actual truth.
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #23 on: April 13, 2008, 01:13 AM »

it sounds like you're describing yourself, Seun.

you are the one who is obsessed with winning to the extent that you discount all manifestations of truth, and i can prove that this is so with evidence (see what i just did! i offered to back my statement up with evidence! you should try it sometime!)

what "truth" did lucabrasi (or YOU, for that matter) present in this discussion that i discounted? the fact that *in your opinion*, Majek Fashek is not "worthy" as Fela?

i demonstrated vividly why that is a ridiculous statement.
i showed that lucabrasi knows little about how film production or storytelling in general work.
i outlined reasons why it would be easier and more advantageous for Charles Novia to make a movie about Majek rather than about Seal or Sade or Eddie Ugbomah.

what did YOU offer? nothing!

please, dude . . .  anybody who knows me will tell you that i am quick to admit that i am wrong if you can actually present me with evidence that PROVES i am wrong. (and again, i can back this up with exchanges from this very forum where i have done just that.) until then, yes . . .  i stand by my convictions and back them up logically!

so spare me the emotional appeals. man up and come to me with a real argument and then we can talk.
Seun (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #24 on: April 13, 2008, 01:20 AM »

Okay!  Lips sealed
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #25 on: April 13, 2008, 01:25 AM »

no . . .  don't zip up your mouth! if you have a point, please make it!

if there was a point at which some kind of *substantiated* truth was presented and i deliberately ignored it in the name of "winning," please make it known!

if you can show me where i went wrong, i will admit fault. it's as simple as that.
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #26 on: April 17, 2008, 12:03 AM »

and for lucabrasi, who claimed that Charles Novia does not know what he is doing because you have not heard anything about the movie in the past year . . .  like i said before, it seems you don't know how much work, preparation and fundraising goes into putting together a project like this, but here's some news for you:

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Francis Duru to play Majek Fashek in new movie
By Samod biobaku
Sunday, April 13, 2008

When Charles Novia told us some years ago that he is going to make a movie on the life and time of international reggae icon, Majek Fashek those of us who know him as a man who keep his words took him serious but after two years we thought the producer of Missing Angel had given up on the dream.

However he seems to ready to live the dream as Francis Duru has been cast to play the role of Majek Fashek in the new movie which shooting will commence in September.

The movie is a 2million dollar budget and will be shot on celluloid. Novia says he is not following the trend rather he is trying to contribute his quota to the industry. It will be shot in America and Nigeria, the two places that shaped the life of the reggae star.

The story of the reggae actist is of course as complicated as the man, Majek himself. But Novia would only be contented with telling the story from the angle of Tina, the woman who has weathered various storm with the man whom many believed caused his own downfall. Novia will also try tell us what he claims to be misconceptions many of us have about the man.

Until the shooting commences in September we might not be able to say much about it. Of course we hope to get Novia talk more about the project.

The project is self-sponsored and he hopes sponsors would show up and stop paying lip service to Nollywood.
Seun (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #27 on: April 17, 2008, 09:58 AM »

Why are they wasting their budget on celluloid?  I won't shout o. 
(I guess I feel jealous that I don't have such money to waste on my own movies.)
combrazor (m)
Re: 2 Million Dollars Movie On Majek Fashek By Charles Novia
« #28 on: April 17, 2008, 10:50 AM »

i don't think celluloid is a good idea either, especially for Nigerian distribution, but you never know . . .

sometimes the decision is really up to the financiers. Novia says it's entirely self-sponsored, but somehow i find it hard to imagine that he actually has two million dollars of his own money to spend on this.

if some of the people who are putting up money say they want it on celluloid (and there are a number of reasons why they would prefer this), then that's the way he has to go.

it's not entirely a bad thing: i just hope that spending on film does not take away from the money they need to spend on art direction (which is a HUGE concern when you're dealing with biopics that narratively span a number of years)
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