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Kobojunkie
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #96 on: April 14, 2008, 07:42 PM »

Quote from: D-reloaded on April 14, 2008, 07:33 PM
Rofl amazing how Seun made a lunatic like yourself a moderator. hahaa like mind sha Grin

How about "don't liek segregation, get out of this country!", Does that work for you too?

So because you are fine with it, people shouldnt voice their opinions? Who the hell are you? Dude werent you the one who claimed not have a job from 2002 to 2007? Well I WAS working then and I was paying taxes thus more than you, and still doing so, so sorry but in THIS country which I'm also a citizen of, I can voice my opinion

Freedom Of Speech. Ever heard of that? Have a problem? You can always go cry yourself to death in a corner. Loser. There's a difference between being a racist and being disgusted by those who would do anything too appease others. I put "great oyibos" in quotation marks for a reason. Short bus riding retarxd

Lol your "caoplocking" makes me shiver in my boots Btw. Loser Cheesy
 
Well, here is the problem I have with your opinion. First you tried to make the issue what it is not, simply by you reacting emotionally to the issue. I believe so many posters already provided you with adequeate logic to help you understand that idea would not fly.
You complain about things not being right according to YOU in NY where you live and I ask you to move to free your mind. I myself have moved around a lot myself. I moved from Delaware to NY to Alabama to Georgia and so many places until I ended up here. My move has been for me to find a place where I can best fit in and thrive and I suggest you consider that instead of sitting down in the same place and blaming government and everyone else for your misery. There is so much world out there that there is no excuse for you to remain living a miserable existence in anyplace at all. If your state is not thriving, move out to the other states where the economy there happens to be booming even NOW.

Now you want to attack the way deportees are being moved by demanding that more tax payers money be used to buy planes and I am saying why demand that we pay more for something that apparently not all of us have issues with?? Why don't you who have a problem with it be the one to truck over all the money to see your dream come true?? I do not want to burdened with someone else's issues and I am sure that the very fact that millions watch and do not complain about the situation are not burdened either so why do you want us to pay for it when we are not for it??
Kobojunkie
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #97 on: April 14, 2008, 07:44 PM »

Quote from: Jackal. on April 14, 2008, 07:37 PM

@Kobojunkie,

Mr CAPITAL PUNISHMENT . . . .
I still havent put u to the sword properly . . . .
In all honesty, i feel you are just a sadist fot championing death penalty for anyone.
How do u justify the killing of a man by killing another one?
Lets face it. . . . You don't have a clue, do ya?


Look,  if you have to label me the bad guy so you can be happier with yourself, I am cool. I do not need you to be accepting of my opinion for me to live and thrive. I stand where I stand on issues and if you do not like it, I am sorry, I can not help you there cause I am not you and so can not think like you do.
D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #98 on: April 14, 2008, 07:47 PM »

Quote from: Jackal. on April 14, 2008, 07:37 PM
@ D-reloaded,

This is hilarious. . . . But where would u want deportees to be? In a bloody canoe?

They should have special planes for them, Jackal

I hear Iberia has terrible molue-ish planes. Let them ride on that.  Grin

There's no way you can tell me that if you heard someone go on and on about death for an entire flight of 8 hrs, you wouldnt be ticked off at botgh the person and the damn airline for allowing such noise to take place. Children sef, I expect something to be done if I hear them cryiong for more than 25 mins. Shio


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Furthermore, The Nigerian geezer that was bounced out for complaining musta gone over the top.

If there's proof stating that jhe made a ruckus ie screaming at the odfficers or trying to get physical in the situation. I'd be the first to say he deserved it. However if it was just merely concern over the fact that the noise of the detainee was persistant, then I have a problem

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The Nigerian deportee was just making a scene. . . .

I understand that, typical Naija way. However I just don't find it fair that people should be forced to deal with that. Paying customers are entitled to epace and quiet. Is that really too much to ask for

Infact they should have sedated the bastard after the first 10 mins of the whining. Gosh afterall isnt that better than having to deal with noise for hrs on end. That shouldnt be hard to understand.
abbeyart
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #99 on: April 14, 2008, 07:51 PM »

D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #100 on: April 14, 2008, 07:52 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on April 14, 2008, 07:42 PM
 
You complain about things not being right according to YOU in NY where you live and I ask you to move to free your mind. I myself have moved around a lot myself. I moved from Delaware to NY to Alabama to Georgia and so many places until I ended up here. My move has been for me to find a place where I can best fit in and thrive and I suggest you consider that instead of sitting down in the same place and blaming government and everyone else for your misery. There is so much world out there that there is no excuse for you to remain living a miserable existence in anyplace at all. If your state is not thriving, move out to the other states where the economy there happens to be booming even NOW.

Where did I say that? and as for the rest of that sermon, um I fail to see how any of that has anything to do with the situation at hand? who said anything about moving or what not. I'm talking about how things are done on planes and you are saying a whole lot of garbage about changing states and other rubbish. What concerns where I live or Ny with Briotish Airways? My friend. Go take a nap and if you like re-read what I wrote and next time try to make sense

Thanks.
Kobojunkie
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #101 on: April 14, 2008, 07:59 PM »

Quote from: D-reloaded on April 14, 2008, 07:52 PM
Where did I say that? and as for the rest of that sermon, um I fail to see how any of that has anything to do with the situation at hand? who said anything about moving or what not. I'm talking about how things are done on planes and you are saying a whole lot of garbage about changing states and other rubbish. What concerns where I live or Ny with Briotish Airways? My friend. Go take a nap and if you like re-read what I wrote and next time try to make sense

Thanks.


Look, fact remains, you have to make a point but have succeeded in going on and on about nothings. When addressed, you feel the need to attack. Regardless of how you want to slice and dice it. What happened happened as it should did and should have been worse if the book was to be thrown on the man who felt it was his place to ACT AS SAVIOUR when the law is clearly against such acts.
Jackal. (m)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #102 on: April 14, 2008, 08:02 PM »

@ Kobojunkie,

Label u the bad guy? Thats a bit charitable.
What if i say u are a sadist? Please don't preach morals here. . . . You can take that to the church.
Blimey, u shoulda kept your opinion to yourself rather than come to a forum to misinform the public.

@ D-reloaded,

Illegal immigrants are not necessarily criminals. . . . .
Why should they ride on a molue-ish aircrafts. . . . Just because they don't have papers?
Dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyum, why do all American-residents lack human feelings?
Some of these illegal immigrants are happy to go back to their country of origin. . . . so not all of em make noise n cause ruckus.
It is only some minority few that loves the James Bond drama. . . . .I go die(the same geezer that didnt die hunting grasscutters in Nigeria). Grin
Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaze, it's a facade.

Paying customers have the right to some peace and tranquility but i wouldn't be doing a macho man if i was on board.
People should sometimes mind their business. . . . Mr Omotunde got too emotional and wanted to prove he knows too much.
I would bet me life if Mr Omotunde woulda complained if the immigrant was Indian or Iraqi.
Lets call a spade a spade. . . . .Nigerians love drama and that schitzo makes me skin creep.
Sedate the dude? Honestly, i need to teach u the basic fundamentals of the Human Rights.
Your government is doing a pathetic job telling u what it really entails. Tongue Tongue Tongue
Kobojunkie
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #103 on: April 14, 2008, 08:06 PM »

Quote from: Jackal. on April 14, 2008, 08:02 PM
@ Kobojunkie,

Label u the bad guy? Thats a bit charitable.
What if i say u are a sadist? Please don't preach morals here. . . . You can take that to the church.
Blimey, u shoulda kept your opinion to yourself rather than come to a forum to misinform the public.


Ok Jackal,  I am done with the Airline issue. Now to you. Why are you having a hard time rapping your mind around the fact that I happen to believe Capital punishment should not be banned?? Is there some place where it is written that all those who do are evil and so should not preach morals?? I don't get it. This is an open forum where everyone can come in to post opinions. Why do you believe I should not be allowed to air my opinion just as you can?? Cause I do not see capital punishment as you do?? Are you seriously sure the problem here is me and not you Huh
CityBoy
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #104 on: April 14, 2008, 08:09 PM »

I have read this post and comments with keen interest. @Elosela,you are a very intellegent woman(drop us a line when next you in London and we should do coffee, Nigeria needs people like you). I am very surprised Mr Omotade is a British citizen(I wonder how he got that status) as the very first lesson of BRIT101 is that never interfere with police business. I have been on several trains, planes and buses where the police have had to enforce an arrest/deportation and have never for once seen the civil population try to interfere. If we have no respect for the laws of our own country, we can't blame the Brits for enforcing their own laws. Although I am yet to hear BA's side, I am 99% confident that no UK policeman would arrest a person for just saying "please don't kill him"(UK police wey dey give illegal immigrant cab money to go report himself for Home Office Lol!).

Nigerians, if we continue thinking the way some of us do, no one is ever going to take us serious! Maybe Mr Omotade wan show off to him fellow Naija say im be Britico.

D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #105 on: April 14, 2008, 08:10 PM »

sharrap jare.  Tongue

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Paying customers have the right to some peace and tranquility but i wouldn't be doing a macho man if i was on board.

I assure you if the crying persisted after an hr, someone else would have spoken up and you've yet to say that you would have been fine with someone whining like a shot dog for 8 hrs

and what exactly is wrong with sedation? If said person wants to be disruptive, sedate them and have 'em wake up in Murtala. What's the problem? I say either sdeate or get a different plane for them. Simple. I'm sure most of the people on that craft didnt pay to be entertained by Monsieur CryBaby.
EloSela (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #106 on: April 14, 2008, 08:11 PM »

@D-Loaded aka Ms. Gibberish

You read ALL. Stop trying to front! . . .LOL!

D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #107 on: April 14, 2008, 08:12 PM »

Oh look. The arrival of more ass licking wannabe Brits. Big surprise there!   Grin


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What happened happened as it should did and should have been worse if the book was to be thrown on the man who felt it was his place to ACT AS SAVIOUR when the law is clearly against such acts.

Riight. Why didnt they book him then. Why didnt he pay a fine? Why isnt he in court? After all he went against the "law" and all. Abi? Why not lock him up and throw away the key if he truly broke the law?
D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #108 on: April 14, 2008, 08:14 PM »

Elo-Sela

Until you are ready to tell me why I wrote "Ny" in the original post and not "United States" since you claim that's what I meant I'd rather you not bother me.

Thanks.  Wink
Kobojunkie
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #109 on: April 14, 2008, 08:16 PM »

Quote from: D-reloaded on April 14, 2008, 08:12 PM
Oh look. The arrival of more ass licking wannabe Brits. Big surprise there!   Grin
Riight. Why didnt they book him then. Why didnt he pay a fine? Why isnt he in court? After all he went against the "law" and all. Abi? Why not lock him up and throw away the key if he truly broke the law?


If you are not sure if he broke the law, look it up instead of continuing this baseless debating of yours. What he did was not right. He could have easily be slammed with obstruction charges and slammed for it. He was fined. I believe the article states that. He was asked to appear in court, even. Did you read the article??

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The passengers were booked on to later flights but Mr Omotade was told by BA staff he was banned by the airline for life.

English-born Mr Omotade, married with a daughter aged four, was handcuffed and kept in police custody for eight hours after his arrest. He has not been charged and is seeking an apology from BA.

He was travelling from Heathrow’s Terminal 4 to Lagos for his brother’s marriage and had in his luggage the groom’s wedding ring, shirt and suit. He missed the ceremony.

He told the Mirror: “There were agonising noises from an individual being restrained. It went on for 20 minutes.

“I pleaded with the officers and my exact words were, ‘Please don’t kill him.’

“I was not swearing or threatening. BA staff said the officers were doing their jobs and nothing was going to happen. When he was removed we thought it was the end of the matter.

“But police officers came back and I was handcuffed and dragged off the plane.”

He claims his luggage has been lost and £1,600 cash he had for relatives has been taken and not returned.

Scotland Yard confirmed: “A man was arrested for affray and causing a disturbance and was bailed.”

Ba said: “Police were called to the BA75 service to Lagos on March 27 after a large number of passengers became disruptive.


EloSela (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #110 on: April 14, 2008, 08:16 PM »

@City Boy

Hey na waO, Tenks sha! I am well chuffed  Grin

D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #111 on: April 14, 2008, 08:18 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on April 14, 2008, 08:16 PM

If you are not sure if he broke the law, look it up instead of continuing this baseless debating of yours. What he did was not right. He could have easily be slammed with obstruction charges and slammed for it. He was fined. I believe the article states that. He was asked to appear in court, even. Did you read the article??

he's going to court because he's protesting how he was treated

I'm still waiting for you to tell me why he wasnt kept in the slammer.

He was NOT charged. He was later on bailed. Why? He "broke" the law and "interfered" with police business right? They should have charged him, don't you think?
Kobojunkie
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #112 on: April 14, 2008, 08:20 PM »

Quote from: D-reloaded on April 14, 2008, 08:18 PM
he's going to court because he's protesting how he was treated

I'm still waiting for you to tell me why he wasnt kept in the slammer


Because the system allows for you to roam free until your court date. Call the police department to ask them of these things please. I find it hard to believe that someone who lives in the United states is asking me these questions. I thought everyone knew you could be charged with a crime and still be allowed to roam until your court date and all,  Huh
Jackal. (m)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #113 on: April 14, 2008, 08:21 PM »

@ Kobojunkie,

I just can't phatom out why an individual or a group of individuals can justify the killing of a man by killing anutha man!!!!
Capital punishment shoulda been abolished in the States. . . . Knowing it normally takes u peops a millennium to change your evil ways, lets hope y'all would stop by year 3000.

I have no problem with u airing your opinion. . . .However, this is a public forum where there are no age restrictions.
It means children could be reading your heap of prattle and thinking u are right. . . .
In other words, keep your evil opinion to yourself.

@ D-reloaded,

The poor lad was crying out because he knows people would afford him the attention.
If he'd cried with no one paying attention, he would keep quiet after a while.
I mean. . . . . .some Nigerians cannot even try this fuckery in Lagos and yet they come here and take the piss!!!!

As per Mr Omotunde, i am sure he woulda been cautioned or taken to court to pay some dough to HRM!!
People don't mess about with police business here. . . . .Just move on and let em do their job.
If they go over the top, there are 2 million CCTVs watching their asses and they would be brought to book.
D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #114 on: April 14, 2008, 08:23 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on April 14, 2008, 08:20 PM

Because the system allows for you to roam free until your court date. Call the police department to ask them of these things please. I find it hard to believe that someone who lives in the United states is asking me these questions. I thought everyone knew you could be charged with a crime and still be allowed to roam until your court date and all, Huh

Dude are you lucid?

Didnt you just post the article that specifically says he wasnt charged?
D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #115 on: April 14, 2008, 08:25 PM »

Quote from: Jackal. on April 14, 2008, 08:21 PM
The poor lad was crying out because he knows people would afford him the attention.
If he'd cried with no one paying attention, he would keep quiet after a while.

I see what you are saying obviously. My question is how are you so sure this "after a while" wouldnt have been 6 hrs? How long should passengers have to wait for such jackasses to be quiet?
Kobojunkie
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #116 on: April 14, 2008, 08:26 PM »

Quote from: Jackal. on April 14, 2008, 08:21 PM
@ Kobojunkie,

I just can't phatom out why an individual or a group of individuals can justify the killing of a man by killing anutha man!!!!
Capital punishment shoulda been abolished in the States. . . . Knowing it normally takes u peops a millennium to change your evil ways, lets hope y'all would stop by year 3000.

I have no problem with u airing your opinion. . . .However, this is a public forum where there are no age restrictions.
It means children could be reading your heap of prattle and thinking u are right. . . .
In other words, keep your evil opinion to yourself.


Well, if you are really concerned about the children, why not be a better example to them by showing how you are able to tolerate others who do not see the world through the same peach colored glasses as you do?

Anyways, glad to know you care so much for your children that you are willing to play GOOD guy while others who do not see things your way are the BAD. Best way to raise your kids is to teach them their way is always the good way and any contrary view is EVIL and needs to be quelched,  good for you!!!
Kobojunkie
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #117 on: April 14, 2008, 08:28 PM »

Quote from: D-reloaded on April 14, 2008, 08:23 PM
Dude are you lucid?

Didnt you just post the article that specifically says he wasnt charged?


uumm,  He has not been charged is not same as HE WILL NEVER BE CHARGED or HE HAS NOT BEEN CHARGED TILL THIS DAY SINCE THAT INCIDENT. I still ask that you go get information instead of continuing this rambling. This is just become nothing but childish. I think will wait to discuss this further with other mature minds who are able to at least reason better,
Jackal. (m)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #118 on: April 14, 2008, 08:31 PM »

@ Kobojunkie,

Are u this fickle?
So u want me to justify killing to ma kids because a sadistic group of ponces feel its ok?
Dude, pass the spliff u are smoking to the left hand side.
There r no 2 ways about KILLING. . . . It is EVIL.
D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #119 on: April 14, 2008, 08:34 PM »

Please do so and wait for other senile people of your age group. You know the ones dealing with dementia.

First off your claim that criminals are allowed to rioam free to court date. That depends on the situation. NOT ALL criminals are allowed such

Secondly, I still want to know why he wasnt charged immediately. After all they have "evidence" that he "interfered", couyt is where you know whether the charge STICKS or not and your article says nothing about his court date having to do with the police. If anything the article just proves he was held for a while then after a few hrs he was later just released.
Other articles show that the court arrangement was made by HIM in regards to protesting his treatment by them in regards to BA

All these agbayas can't even admit when they are wrong. Pitiful. Instead they rather play games.
Kobojunkie
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #120 on: April 14, 2008, 08:36 PM »

Quote from: Jackal. on April 14, 2008, 08:31 PM
@ Kobojunkie,

Are u this fickle?
So u want me to justify killing to ma kids because a sadistic group of ponces feel its ok?
Dude, pass the spliff u are smoking to the left hand side.
There is no 2 ways about KILLING. . . . It is EVIL.


Look,  It is fickle mind that is not able to wrap itself around the fact that all persons will not have and share the same opinions and see the world as it does. I do not agree with you on this issue and that is that. Keep playing GOOD guy all you want, it will not force me to change my view or mind on this issue. Either you learn to accept that I am not you and so should not see the world are you do Or you continue playing this game of yours. I am tired of it myself and would now want to move to dealing with mature discussions. You have a nice life
D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #121 on: April 14, 2008, 08:36 PM »

Jackal, what happened to the capital punishment thread? Was it deleted?

Why are you bringing it here?  Huh
Jackal. (m)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #122 on: April 14, 2008, 08:39 PM »

@ D-reloaded,

I can't find the capital punishment thread. . . .  Grin Grin Grin

@ Kobojunkie,

You keep talking about maturity. . . . What has that gotta do with this.
Besides, whats a matured discussion? Gray hair? Menopause?
For someone moderating the POLITICS SECTION, u are a tad mentally-shallow.
I ma let u be for now.
D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #123 on: April 14, 2008, 08:41 PM »

he's actually moderating Poltics, Jackal  Embarrassed
nwando
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #124 on: April 14, 2008, 08:43 PM »

what is you people's own.
believe me if I paid $1800 to fly delta non stop from Atlanta to Lagos the last thing I need is to hear someone shouting "Make una come O" from  behind me.

D-reloaded (f)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #125 on: April 14, 2008, 08:45 PM »

Quote from: nwando on April 14, 2008, 08:43 PM
believe me if I paid $1800 to fly delta non stop from Atlanta to Lagos the last thing I need is to hear someone shouting "Make una come O" from  behind me.

Please help me tell them o. Imagine that for hrs on end?

Jackal. (m)
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #126 on: April 14, 2008, 08:50 PM »

@ D-reloaded,

What is so bad in a guy wailing in his sonorous voice . . . .

Y'all Nigerians make me laugh. . . .
Do u complain when bus conductors wailYaba, Oshodi, Ikeja in Lagos?
Blimey. . . . what are the chances of such happening while on a plane? Me thinks 1/600.
Its tolerable. . . . i won't move a muscle if i encounter such incident.


nwando
Re: 136 Ba Passengers Removed From Jet Over Deportee Row
« #127 on: April 14, 2008, 08:50 PM »

Quote from: D-reloaded on April 14, 2008, 08:18 PM
he's going to court because he's protesting how he was treated

I'm still waiting for you to tell me why he wasnt kept in the slammer.

He was NOT charged. He was later on bailed. Why? He "broke" the law and "interfered" with police business right? They should have charged him, don't you think?

Knowing how uncouth Nigerians can be the guy obviously did more than saying "please don't kill the guy"
He must have called them out of their names,and constituted a nuisance to the flight crew and like the article says,he became a spokesman for the ocassion.
They ought to deal with him and teach him a good lesson on etiquette.


In this day of terrorism,no hoodlum should be tolerated on an airplane since we don't know who is who.
Next time he'll learn not to cry louder than the bereaved.
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