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bawomolo (m)
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #64 on: April 19, 2008, 03:13 AM »

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Assigning blame to them or their leaders isnt the priority. Getting food over there is.

food aid is only a short term solution.
Kobojunkie
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #65 on: April 19, 2008, 03:17 AM »

Quote from: tpia on April 19, 2008, 12:48 AM


Its open knowledge the Haitians are rioting because they're facing starvation.

Assigning blame to them or their leaders isnt the priority. Getting food over there is.


Must whites always teach us how to do everything- including having compassion on the less fortunate. Undecided

@Tpia, the problem with this issue is their leaders failed them. This problem has been going on for years now, at least 4 years. During which time there has been food coming in from outside sources but not enough. If within that time, those in leadership have not moved to find lasting solutions to the problem and have allowed it to decay to this point, I ask you, you think it is no priority to get the right people in to help deal with the problem and fast Huh Well, turns out the people do see the leaders as the issue and so have moved to, if not already removed the prime minister.
Kobojunkie
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #66 on: April 19, 2008, 03:25 AM »

Food crisis worsening in Haiti - more than 3.8 million hungry people

FAO proposes farming and livestock projects in support of 500 000 people

31 July 2003, Rome -- A 'silent' food crisis is looming in Haiti, the poorest country in Latin America and the Caribbean, FAO warned today.

Living conditions of the poor have deteriorated markedly, with over 3.8 million people suffering from hunger. The majority of the hungry lives in rural areas.

"Haitians somehow manage to survive from day-to-day, leaving many observers questioning whether there is really a humanitarian emergency," said Anne M. Bauer, Director, Emergency Operations and Rehabilitation Division. "The indicators, however, show that there is a crisis, albeit a 'silent' one, and one that risks becoming deeper."


http://www.fao.org/english/newsroom/news/2003/21165-en.html



Damaged agriculture

Increased social and political tensions have contributed to a vicious cycle of marginalization and increased vulnerability, eroding social, economic, infrastructural and environmental assets, FAO said.

Out of a labour force of 4.1 million only 110 000 are employed in the formal sector, of whom 35 000 are civil servants.

Agriculture, the main source of income, has been damaged by drought in the northwest over the last four years and by floods in the northeast over the last season. National food production is still decreasing due to insufficient investment, infrastructure and access to agricultural inputs.

Poor living conditions are exacerbated by inadequate or non-existent water and sanitation services.

Over 1.2 million children are affected or infected by HIV/AIDS or other diseases. Around 23 percent of the children under five are suffering from chronic malnutrition.

Reducing dependency on food aid

FAO launched an appeal for $6 million to finance five key relief activities in Haiti.

FAO projects will:
provide seeds and tools to 80 000 vulnerable farm families hit by drought and floods, so that they can resume agricultural production;

provide poor households with chickens, pigs and goats to generate income and reduce malnutrition;

improve access for 500 families to drinking water and water for vegetable gardening

vaccinate 675 000 farm animals against Anthrax to reduce loss of livestock.

"These activities will benefit more than half a million Haitians. FAO aims to increase the communities' dignity and self-reliance in food, thereby reducing dependency on costly and unsustainable external food aid," Bauer said.

FAO will soon distribute around 180 tonnes of seeds to around 60 000 people so that they can prepare for the next planting season which starts in September.


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redsun (m)
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #67 on: April 19, 2008, 04:35 AM »

Blackman.s peril,the international monetary fund and world bank are holding the carribbean run black nations at ransom,with their draconian  free trade policies  and loan agreements their markets are flooded with cheap american and foreign  goods and there by destroying the local economy,couple with blackman's syndrome of not knowing what is important most times.

The mud as well have some natural nutrient,but it shouldn't substitute a staple diet.Elephants in the wild do source mud resources too,for treats,they can travels hundreds of miles to get one,not to quench hunger,but for replenishment.
tpia
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #68 on: April 19, 2008, 03:39 PM »

Quote from: bawomolo on April 19, 2008, 03:13 AM
food aid is only a short term solution.

yes, its a short term solution, but they can at least have something to eat while people are trying to figure out the problem.



Quote from: Kobojunkie on April 19, 2008, 03:17 AM
@Tpia, the problem with this issue is their leaders failed them. This problem has been going on for years now, at least 4 years. During which time there has been food coming in from outside sources but not enough. If within that time, those in leadership have not moved to find lasting solutions to the problem and have allowed it to decay to this point, I ask you, you think it is no priority to get the right people in to help deal with the problem and fast Huh Well, turns out the people do see the leaders as the issue and so have moved to, if not already removed the prime minister.

of course the leaders failed them. Nothing new there. Happens all the time in certain parts of the world.

But the leaders are eating well and living comfortably right now. The regular people are not, hence the riots.

If anyone is going to starve in that country, it wont be the leaders or their families. So why deny assistance to the suffering masses because of their leaders' failure to plan? Huh
Kobojunkie
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #69 on: April 19, 2008, 03:51 PM »

Quote from: tpia on April 19, 2008, 03:39 PM
yes, its a short term solution, but they can at least have something to eat while people are trying to figure out the problem.



of course the leaders failed them. Nothing new there. Happens all the time in certain parts of the world.

But the leaders are eating well and living comfortably right now. The regular people are not, hence the riots.

If anyone is going to starve in that country, it wont be the leaders or their families. So why deny assistance to the suffering masses because of their leaders' failure to plan? Huh


Now you have completely lost me. Where did I say that assistance should be denied them??? Or did you post a reply to the wrong person???
tpia
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #70 on: April 19, 2008, 08:17 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on April 19, 2008, 03:51 PM

Now you have completely lost me. Where did I say that assistance should be denied them??? Or did you post a reply to the wrong person???

werent you advocating for black countries in general to be left alone to starve or die due to the leaders' corruption and inefficiency? That the west should just ignore them and pull out?
Kobojunkie
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #71 on: April 19, 2008, 09:30 PM »

Quote from: tpia on April 19, 2008, 08:17 PM
werent you advocating for black countries in general to be left alone to starve or die due to the leaders' corruption and inefficiency? That the west should just ignore them and pull out?

I think you should go back up to the beginning of the thread to read again. I made that statement somewhere in here but not in the context that  you chose to have it. Yes, if I had my way, African governments and people will be informed that no AID will come to them as we are sick of footing their stupidity. Push them to do better already. In Haitia's case, if you read the story, they had over 4 years to find solutions, have been depending on Aids for over 4 years and still allowed this to happen. I am sorry but at some point something has to be done to get blacks self reliant and if it involves a ultimatum in years to come, so be it. By the way, I do not think this is a leadership failure issue at all. There are thousands of able bodied men and women in Haiti and all over africa. No excuse.
tpia
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #72 on: April 19, 2008, 09:46 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on April 19, 2008, 09:30 PM
I think you should go back up to the beginning of the thread to read again. I made that statement somewhere in here but not in the context that you chose to have it. Yes, if I had my way, African governments and people will be informed that no AID will come to them as we are sick of footing their stupidity. Push them to do better already. In Haitia's case, if you read the story, they had over 4 years to find solutions, have been depending on Aids for over 4 years and still allowed this to happen. I am sorry but at some point something has to be done to get blacks self reliant and if it involves a ultimatum in years to come, so be it. By the way, I do not think this is a leadership failure issue at all. There are thousands of able bodied men and women in Haiti and all over africa. No excuse.





before certain posts (including this one) get deleted, let me quote you here:

@ kobojunkie
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Infact, I would rather the WEST step away and allow Black nations start to suffer under the wait of their problems and learn to solve their problems and improve on their government now and not when all hell breaks loose considering the current situation in the world today is not really going to go away anytime soon


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I hope and pray the West NEVER do anything to help us ever again.  Why do we continue to feel it is ok for us to continue to kill ourselves and not seek our own interest but everyone else has to do all things to keep us alife. What part do we plan in the development of this planet?? Are we just beggars??? if that be the case, what is the value of our continuing to exist when we can not even understand that we have to deal fairly in all??


I'm sorry, but i still have family and friends in Nigeria as well as other parts of the world. And even if i didnt, its still unsettling for me to hear someone advocating annihilation of blacks because of their leadership problems.
Cayon (f)
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #73 on: April 19, 2008, 09:49 PM »

wow!!! I pray and hope something is done immediately.   I am somewhat curioous if Santo Domingo cannot help, they are rich in agriculture
Kobojunkie
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #74 on: April 19, 2008, 09:50 PM »

Well,  Like I said ,  I did say it in a different context than you did since you had to pull that out of the whole statement makes it seem like I am advocating for the annihilation of the black world to you. I have family in Africa as well. Infact my mother intends to move back out there soon. I still stand on the same, we have tried other means and still Africa is not self reliant. Each year BILLIONS in AIDS go to feed the people and that is unsettling to people like me. I would rather we suffer now and learn our lessons now. Get ourselves out of poverty at all cost. DO what we must to make sure all these bad leaders do not keep coming back and we keep using them as excuse to continue living the way we do. I guess we see things differently on that.

Maybe highlighting it all and having you focus on the statement as a whole will help you understand better,

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Infact, I would rather the WEST step away and allow Black nations start to suffer under the wait of their problems and learn to solve their problems and improve on their government now and not when all hell breaks loose considering the current situation in the world today is not really going to go away anytime soon



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I hope and pray the West NEVER do anything to help us ever again.  Why do we continue to feel it is ok for us to continue to kill ourselves and not seek our own interest but everyone else has to do all things to keep us alife. What part do we plan in the development of this planet?? Are we just beggars??? if that be the case, what is the value of our continuing to exist when we can not even understand that we have to deal fairly in all??

tpia
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #75 on: April 19, 2008, 09:53 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on April 19, 2008, 09:50 PM
Well,  Like I said ,  I did say it in a different context than you did since you had to pull that out of the whole statement makes it seem like I am advocating for the annihilation of the black world to you. I have family in Africa as well. Infact my mother intends to move back out there soon. I still stand on the same, we have tried other means and still Africa is not self reliant. Each year BILLIONS in AIDS go to feed the people and that is unsettling to people like me. I would rather we suffer now and learn our lessons now. Get ourselves out of poverty at all cost. DO what we must to make sure all these bad leaders do not keep coming back and we keep using them as excuse to continue living the way we do. I guess we see things differently on that.

are you living in Africa right now?
Kobojunkie
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #76 on: April 19, 2008, 09:54 PM »

Quote from: tpia on April 19, 2008, 09:53 PM
are you living in Africa right now?
Do I have to live in Africa NOW to be African or be concerned about Africa???
tpia
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #77 on: April 19, 2008, 10:03 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on April 19, 2008, 09:54 PM
Do I have to live in Africa NOW to be African or be concerned about Africa???


@kobojunkie
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I would rather we suffer now and learn our lessons now.

since you'd prefer Africans to suffer now and learn their lessons now, are you going to be there suffering with them.

Or you're writing comfortably from your non-African living room.
Kobojunkie
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #78 on: April 19, 2008, 10:11 PM »

Sure. Do you have a problem with that too?Huh Look, if what offends you is a person demanding that africa be allowed to go through it's own designed hell to learn the importance of self-efficiency not just in words but in action. Then I apologize that you are offended by such calls but what I posted remains. I stand on what I posted and I hope it happens soon cause I believe that it is time for things to change in that continent for all the people and until we learn what self reliance means, we may continue to be BEGGARS of the WORLD. Now, if you do not mind, I would rather move on to other things at this point.
tpia
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #79 on: April 19, 2008, 10:23 PM »

Quote from: Kobojunkie on April 19, 2008, 10:11 PM
Sure. Do you have a problem with that too?Huh Look, if what offends you is a person demanding that africa be allowed to go through it's own designed hell to learn the importance of self-efficiency not just in words but in action. Then I apologize that you are offended by such calls but what I posted remains. I stand on what I posted and I hope it happens soon cause I believe that it is time for things to change in that continent for all the people and until we learn what self reliance means, we may continue to be BEGGARS of the WORLD. Now, if you do not mind, I would rather move on to other things at this point.

sweetie, so would I.

If you fail to see the sheer wickedness in what you're saying, but would rather deceive yourself that its about offending Tpia, then knock yourself out.

Nice to know you're a moderator. Grin

redsun (m)
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #80 on: April 20, 2008, 01:31 AM »

It is time the black world take the bull by the horns,even if it means people dying,it takes sacrifices and dedications to live.The rest of the world sees us as destitutes,abled bodied people,it baffles me and the more i think about it,the more i want to go back there,i want to be a part of the game for real and play my role,do the right thing,even if it cost me my life,common mosquito can kill a man in africa,espcially when your body defence system has gotten use to something else,alot dangers but we got to change it,i feel so embarrased living in whiteman's land,under his unbrella,like sub-human.White people are fed of people bugging them,immigration is becoming a dicey issue in britain,alot of foreigners,and the indigenous people are feeling uncomfortable,it is a ticking time bomb,even the main stream press have started quoting a dead british fascist, racist,powell, who should be codemn for eternity for preaching hate against the migrating west indians in the fifties and sixthies to britain,he is been painted now as if he is another martin luther king,i have a dream coming true.

Sometimes you outgrow something,and you want to be in-charge,mastermind and this is the time for us to mastermind our destinyand take up the challenges.I was reading in the independent today saying another 21st century scramble for africa with impunity,as if we are just fucking tools,how the asians,the european and the americans are on the rat race for african abundant natural resources,about the only place that it is left in the world this days,that african goverments are bunch of gangs that can be bought,just like tony blair said,that africa is a sore in the eyes of the world,and nobody is saying nothing and you still have african professionals hiding in europe,asia,america,in the name of bad goverments at home,who are the goverment?who are the people?Some of them even show off that they live in the west,instead of resentment.One finger soil with oil,soils all,the shame of africa is for every blackman and the shame of every blackman is for Africa.Identity.

Cry blood Africa,cry blood.
FMK (m)
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #81 on: April 20, 2008, 10:04 AM »

But  What the Job of United Nations  UN  and FAO, UNICEF, department  ? they are there like  stylistic  Statues Model or what  (Manequins)  wondering  up and down on TV  like model presentation  ladies   doing nothing    ?
bawomolo (m)
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #82 on: April 20, 2008, 08:36 PM »

Quote from: FMK on April 20, 2008, 10:04 AM
But  What the Job of United Nations  UN  and FAO, UNICEF, department  ? they are there like  stylistic  Statues Model or what  (Manequins)  wondering  up and down on TV  like model presentation  ladies   doing nothing    ?

it's not the job of the UN, UNICEF to save governments all the time. 
Kobojunkie
Re: Haiti’s Poor Rely On Mud Pies To Survive
« #83 on: April 20, 2008, 11:15 PM »

@FMK, I am sure you are a reasonable person. Why should the UN, FAO and UNICEF continue to be burdened with issues resulting from poor governance and poor decisions on the part of the people in the same countries year after year after year??
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