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4 Play (m)
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Original Title: Is It Not Time To Split Up Nigeria?
Nigeria is an artificial nation created for the covenience of Western colonial powers.Is it not time for the component parts of the country to admit the unworkability of this project and work towards an amicable disolution of the country into various independent states.
This is invariably more sensible than carrying on like this. Splitting up won't end all our problems but it will go a long way towards alleviating a lot of it.
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NSNA
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i very much see sence in this idea
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DaHitler (m)
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I agree with you. I have meant many hours comming up with various possible splits. However, I doubt the Hausas and Fulanis would allow to split to occur. At the very least, not until oil is no longer valuable (25 years or so).
I think the best idea would be to split the country into 3 pieces along the rivers. The only problem with that is a couple south-south ethnic groups (Ijaw e.t.c) would basically be split into half.
Let me know if you come up with any kool/workable splits.
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debsy (f)
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splitting up will woren the situation.look at states for instance , when a state is split,the split state wants to be split and so on and so forth.if we split nigeria,the east will want further splittings,same with the west and the north.
and before we kow it there war even in our backyards.
let us learbn to live with one another, splitting never solved any problem
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DaHitler (m)
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I am want the state to be split. I'm surprised someone from the south (you are from the south right?) would want Nigeria to remain as one. The North might want a one Nigeria, but thats because if Nigeria splits up, their section would be so poor, it would make current Nigeria appear rich.
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Seun (m)
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In the modern world, all countries are inter-dependent. Even if we split the country into the 3 major regional zones, the various countries will not survive without the assistance of each other.
If the northern country feels threatened by it's lack of resources, but remains militarily equal or superior, it will simply start a very bloody war against the nearby 'countries' to control their resources. A war against another country that is also a different ethnic group is easy to justify.
In a united Nigeria, we may have unrest here and there and lose thousands of people every year, but if Nigeria is forcefully divided there will be a full scale war that will kill millions. it is better for thousands to die than for millions to die, therefore the path to progress is the path to unity.
Very soon all the tribalistic Nigerians will grow old and die and leave the country for progressive people like me to take it to greater heights.
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Eastcoast (f)
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If nigeria divides, the south east is going to become a first world country.  |
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Seun (m)
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I have a question for those who want division. When Nigeria is divided, will all the Igbos who are based in Lagos or the north have to move back to Igboland? What about those who are married to Yorubas? What about those with permanent assets like land, buildings and businesses with permanent sites? Is that inconvenience worth it?
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Eastcoast (f)
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everyone would be forced to relocate to their homeland
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Idekeson (m)
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The North will never go in peace, or how do you guys expect them to survive. Groundnuts?
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Love44 (f)
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I don't want Nigeria to split up.
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DaHitler (m)
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Seun, there would be a 2-3 year time period for people to apply for citizenship in either zone. However, you would have to show that you own land or have been living in that region for quit some time.
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Seun (m)
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So, the Igbos who do not own land in the East (because they are poor) and who have been living in Lagos all their lives will not be welcome in Igboland. Right?
So which country is going to get the Niger Delta region and the offshore oilfields? Is it Igboland or Yorubaland? What if the niger Deltans decide that they want their own country (Hausaland, igboland, YorubaLand, OilLand)?
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DaHitler (m)
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As long as you can trace your ancestry (people should be able to tell by looking at you) then you would not have to provide proof. The Niger-Delta would be split according to the rivers. And no, they cannot decide that they want their own country. I am talking about splitting Nigeria into a more manageble size, not reducing the country into a never ending pool of independent states.
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Seun (m)
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I am talking about splitting Nigeria into a more manageble size Countries like the United States, Canada, India and China are much larger than Nigeria (population-wise, area-wise) and they are doing quite well. How can you now be saying that Nigeria is too big to manage? |
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DaHitler (m)
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Yes, but all those countries have a solid foundation to begin with. Once you build your foundation (Majority ethnic group/Relgion e.t.c) it is easy to build up on. Now, with Nigeria, you would be hard pressed to find a majority on anything. No ethnic group makes up 30 percent of the population. No one religion is dominant in the country. Hence, on what foundation do you have to build a society.
There reason why America, China work out so well is because they have a clear majority group, and the minority groups band together to act as opposition in government. The same thing applies to Canada but they are only numbering in at 30 million (far less than Nigeria).
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Seun (m)
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I don't buy your argument at all. Thanks for your concern, but I live in Nigeria and we are ok like this. all we are waiting for is for our tribalistic elders to grow old and die so the rest of us can live in peace.
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DaHitler (m)
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I have lived in Nigeria aswell. It is not okay. If you want to continue on the current part, you would have to wait for 120 years for most traces of the past (ethnic groups) to die out.
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Seun (m)
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Actually, that would be 50 years, and it's ok by me. Nigeria will improve gradually and sustainably.
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Love44 (f)
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The Niger Deltan have said that if Nigeria was to be split up that they will not be with Igboland because they want their own country. They have sign it incase Nigeria splits up. So if Nigeria split up it will be four countries. Yorubaland, Hausaland, Igboland and Niger Deltan. If Nigeria splits up the Niger deltan will be very rich and powerful and not only that their land is very good for agriculture especially Akwa Ibom, crossriver and also because their population is not big their GDP will be very high and the oil money will be too much and that will make them to become a very rich country.
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DaHitler (m)
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If their standards of living is a lot higher than the rest of their neighbors, they would be flooded with immigrants. Within a few years, the natives would become minorities in their own country.
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prince_onx
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In a knotshell, you guys admit that its necessary to split but we're forced to be/live together because of what one part have or the other especially the Oil in NJ-Delta! sounds more like someone is using/taking advantage of someone! Why be together then? maybe I'm missing something  |
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rof-lmao
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Y'all need to understand that it's too late for Nigeria to split up now. Attempting such a daft thing would be the biggest political catastrophe the world has ever seen simply because the agreement to a viable division cannot and will never be reached by all the parties involved.
Solve the below equation:
Nigeria = ((India * China)2 / Switzerland)3 + USACanada!
Solution: Put up or shut up!
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DaHitler (m)
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rof-lmao, you are not making very much sense. If you know anything about world history, even if 40 million people died as a result of a split -up, it still will not be the biggest disaster the world has ever seen.
Peaceful seperation is possible. It is clear that there are hardly any patriots left. The only thing that is keeping the general population from asking for a seperation within the state is the lack of knowledge about other countries that have undergone similar situations.
And if Nigeria continues to be a failed state, yes, it will split up. I personally do not like the country the way it is. I want it to be destroyed so that something better can stand in its place. Maybe you are a northerner, in that case you would be a lot better off if Nigeria remained one, that way you can continue to leach on the south.
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stanech
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men it is not easy to live in this kind of country with many ethnic groups, I think we should split up for better and for best
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Idekeson (m)
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I've always been against big government but I don't think splitting the country is feasible. The ideal thing might be to hand over resource control to the states and they pay tax to the federal government for national defense and foreign policy.
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rof-lmao
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@Afeni: Maybe if you calm down a little' you'll realise that the clause "biggest political catastrophe the world has ever seen" is a figure of speech so termed HYPERBOLE!
Abd you need to knock yourself off that illusion of a peaceful separation. That is something that may be possible in Movies, not the real world. So 40million lives due to political mis-judgement is worth wasting. That sure would have to be "World War III" in count of lost lives.
You talk about countries that have undergone similar thing but can you give an example of one that came out good? If you're thinking of naming the US then you better hold your breadth because that would be a misunderstanding.
From my experiences in life I've realised that "Almost anything will work if we are willing to put in the effort to make it succeed". Nigerian need to quit b*itching and pool their resources together to make things work. As as said it's too late now to contemplate breaking up now. That should have been done before October 1st 1960. What makes you so sure your problems will be solved simply by breaking up? The only thing you'll realise is the same problem exists within the respective "new countries", and more that hadn't been noticed prior to the breakup. Nigeria is too diverse to break down into satisfied communities. I believe it was Obafemi Awolowo who said you'll have to break Nigeria such that each Local Government is a country to satisfy all the Nigerian communities.
Nuff said! And just because I disagree with separation makes me a Northerner huh? SMH @ you.
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4 Play (m)
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To divide the country the North has to be reassured about their economic viability.This can be done by signing a treaty agreement that gives them preferential access to the sea.They can also be given the bulk of the foreign reserves.
Nigeria will exist as an economic community in the mould of the EU with some freedom of movement and free trade among the component states.
This division can be done peacefully under the guidance of the UN.The international community has a strategic stake in ensuring such a peaceful transition hence they will provide the neccesary help-financial or otherwise to ensure its conclusion.
Peaceful divisions has occured before with dissolution of the Soviet Union
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comechop (m)
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[/b]Afeni[b] , you really are not making much sense. You don't know the magnitude of what you're even suggesting or propositioning. Your agruments are baseless and do not hold water.
There is NO way we can survive if we split up. There are much too many complexities involved in that.
I mean seriously, havent you heard the POPULAR saying, United we S, , Divided we F, ??
Men, u guys shld reason well before typing any rubbish here.
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xkape (m)
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Why is it that it is the Nigerians who don't live in NIgferia that are sreaming about splitting the country?
Everybody else in the world is merging to become stronger, the biggest most powerful black nation wants to split up? CHina is becoming a world power because of its size, so has india. The argument of different languages and nationalities does not hold water. The European Union has more MAJOR languages that Nigeria, more countries are scrambling to join Europe because every body wants success.
The problem with nigeria is not ethnicity but Leadership. Bad leadership in Nigeria is representative of all ethnicities at all levels. It is so easy to blame notherners or anybody else for destroying Nigeria. What of Obj?, what of our state governors? what of local govt chairmen?.
Countries that have split in the past, what has become of them? The Balkan states, Old Soviet union? In fact The whole of west africa should join into a monolithic state if we are ever going to break the cycle of poverty killing Africa.
We Nigerians are just selfish and shortsighted. We are all interdependent on one another. Then what makes everyone think that the north will not survive. If Niger republic can survive why can't they? We all forget it is the north that feeds Nigeria.
Please make una no split my country o
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nuru (m)
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Splitting is not the issue, but making the center to have less hold on the regions.
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Love44 (f)
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The only thing that Nigeria needs is good Leadership. If we have good government no one will care whether the Hausa or etc becomes the president. But, the Hausa are the ones that spoiled Nigeria.
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