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deb (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #96 on: May 22, 2006, 12:06 PM »

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Breakup koooooo, breakup niiiiiiiiiiiii

Some other will not get the gist. next time try and elaborate.

I guess you are totally againat Nigeria breaking up and I agree with you
toyex
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #97 on: May 22, 2006, 03:59 PM »

I don't think that dividing Nigeria will solve our problem.
First, Whatever is happening in Nigeria will co0ntinue to happen to the people wherever they go ,be it marginallisation, corruption, nepotism etc.
Second, all of Nigerias problem is more from the elite and it cuts across ethnic lines.
Let a state consist only of ijaws, there will still be problems.let be 100% Yoruba, it is then you will begin to hear 400 years old histories of who migrated, who forebears are bastards etc.let it be 100% Ibos  , then you will now realise that Ibo sef dey fear Ibo.
At the end of the day, you will realise that what is required in Nigeria is the rule of law.If people begin to see the immediate repercussions of any wrong doing then, every law abiding citizen will be happy and Nigeria will move forward.
dakmanzero (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #98 on: May 22, 2006, 07:23 PM »

Anyone blathering on about breaking up Nigeria should watch 'sometimes in April', and then just go and look at the street outside.

A movie much more realistic and les sensational than Hotel rwanda, it shows you exactly what war in Nigeria will look like.

You will thank God for your life. So now quit blaiming musa danladi sabo for your probloems and go make some money or accept yourself for the loser you are.
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #99 on: May 22, 2006, 07:51 PM »

Darkmanzero, peaceful seperation is possible. Read the link I have attached.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/22/montenegro.independence/index.html

dakmanzero (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #100 on: May 22, 2006, 07:58 PM »

Not in Nigeria it isn't.

too much interdepenmdence, and too many people will lose SO much they'd rather die fighting.

DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #101 on: May 22, 2006, 08:05 PM »

Relations can still be kept solid even though it is in separate nation. America is heavily dependant on Nigerian oil, but the two countries are not heading to the path of unification. Interdependency is the reason we have trade.

Danmasani (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #102 on: May 22, 2006, 08:08 PM »

@ Afeni

Afeni is some funny dude. He is thinking that Serbia and Montenegro is the same as Nigeria.

Even a madman will know the difference!
MrBean (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #103 on: May 22, 2006, 08:10 PM »

@Afeni

Comparing Montenegro to Nigeria?

You my friend, are misguided.

Please elaborate on the similarities.
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #104 on: May 22, 2006, 08:11 PM »

I don't think it is the same. I just used it to prove that peaceful seperation is possible.

While you and your friends are implying that the only way seperation can take place is through civil war. Or that cooperation between nations can not take place unless they are united as one.  Cool
MrBean (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #105 on: May 22, 2006, 08:24 PM »

@afeni

Oh, Now I get your point.
dakmanzero (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #106 on: May 22, 2006, 08:26 PM »

Afen I hope to GOD you are joking.

because if you are not, it means there are many others like you, and God forbid your kind reach a position of power, you will bring about the destruction of us all.

DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #107 on: May 22, 2006, 08:28 PM »

There are many like me. And we will bring salvation for all. We only want what is best for our beloved Nigerians (in regardless of ethnic group).  Cool
MrBean (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #108 on: May 22, 2006, 08:32 PM »

@Afeni

I understand your point but not in a complex setting like nigeria.

Serbia and Montenegro werent much of a nation to begin with. Another fact is that serbia don't stand to loose much and also the political atmosphere in serbia is akin to germany and jews in light of what milosevic did to the Albanians in the name of preserving serbia.

Nigeria, my friend, ia a totally diferrent pot of soup  Grin Grin Grin
dakmanzero (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #109 on: May 22, 2006, 08:33 PM »

Jesus christ Afeni you sound like an extremist already!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

abeg we nigerians don't strap bopmbs to ourselves to bring salvation to others ooooooo. we like wooogy too much  Grin
Danmasani (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #110 on: May 22, 2006, 08:34 PM »

Afeni
last time i checked, you were a staunt anti-north element.
See people like Afeni should at all cost be prevented from becoming leaders ( even ward councilors) because they double-talk.
See who is claiming to be a Nationalist ( LOL)

" A spring of water cannot pour out sweet and sour water at the same time"
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #111 on: May 22, 2006, 08:36 PM »

In case you didn't know, I have a nephew and niece that are half-northerner. I don't have a problem with anyone. I only desire for Nigeria to be broken-up into pieces that allow for rapid economic and social advancement.
MrBean (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #112 on: May 22, 2006, 08:40 PM »

@Afeni

Now i am begining to think you need to study the history of nigeria before you say more. The politics of nation building is for the men. Time and education will put things in perspective for you. Did you ever live in nigeria?
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #113 on: May 22, 2006, 08:44 PM »

I lived in Nigeria for most of my life. And I have studied a lot about Nigerian history.
MrBean (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #114 on: May 22, 2006, 08:47 PM »

@Afeni

How old are you (no insults intended)? You can give a range if you don't want to be specific.

My brother Nigeria no be wetin you think oh!
Danmasani (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #115 on: May 22, 2006, 08:49 PM »

Quote from: mrlawng on May 22, 2006, 08:47 PM
@Afeni

How old are you (no insults intended)? You can give a range if you don't want to be specific.

My brother Nigeria no be wetin you think oh!

He stayed in Nigeria for his first 11years and left. He thinks he knows everything about her that way!
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #116 on: May 22, 2006, 08:50 PM »

I am 19, and it exactly what I think. It is only a matter of time before the union is over. People in certain regions (I am not going to call any names) know that they are being cheated and when the time comes, they would support secession.
MrBean (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #117 on: May 22, 2006, 08:58 PM »

@Afeni

Let me ask you what part of Nigerian are you from? Tribe.

We will have this discussion again in some years to come. For now you need to study more about the Nigeria you think you know. There is a Nigeria beneath the one you perceive as reality.

Please read about the aftermath of the first attempted secession called BIAFRA. The stakes are too high my brother.
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #118 on: May 22, 2006, 09:00 PM »

I am Yoruba. And I know alot about Biafra (I also know people who fought in the war. Both sides).

The underlining problem is that Nigeria should have never have existed in the first place. It is clearly built up so that out-side forces can manipulate and exploit the State for her resources.
MrBean (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #119 on: May 22, 2006, 09:06 PM »

Did you read Ijebumans post?

I will pretty much be saying the same things if i start.

Nigeria is more than Hausa Igbo and Yoruba. I am yoruba also and even at that i know the diferrences that exist between us not to talk about Nigeria as a whole. People will start getting ideas from the dangerous precedence division will set, leading to widespread anarchy on a biblical scale. Does the word Genocide ring a bell?
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #120 on: May 22, 2006, 09:12 PM »

I guess they don't call us cowards for nothing. Amiright, Mrlawng?

And being a Yoruba man, you know exactly what I am talking about.
MrBean (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #121 on: May 22, 2006, 09:42 PM »

Dangerous folly my friend, is not bravery

If intelligent analysis equals cowardice, then i am a great COWARD.

Remember ife and modakeke crisis, OPC, hausa and yoruba unrest in ogun state and ibadan. Hmmmh Cowards? I think not.
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #122 on: May 22, 2006, 09:46 PM »

Spin a little harder. The fact remains, we are widely regarded as cowards. A very shameful title for the largest ethnic group in the entire continent.

And if there were a Yoruba state, our problems would be far less than the current situation in Nigeria.

African countries are the only ones residing in nations based on fake borders.

Here is a link about Yoruba history and facts since you seem to have forgotten.

http://www.answers.com/Yoruba%20


Mrlawng, sad how we are reduced to nothing, isn't it?
mochafella (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #123 on: May 22, 2006, 10:26 PM »

Quote from: Afeni on May 22, 2006, 09:46 PM

um, pardon me but is Orisha Eshu holding his "third leg" in the picture on that link.
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #124 on: May 22, 2006, 10:28 PM »

Yes, yes he is.  Cheesy

But that was no the point of posting the link. It was to remind all the Yoruba, Itsekiri, Igala and Edo/Bini people that we are related and there is no reason to suffer along with strangers in a One Nigeria.
davidylan (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #125 on: May 22, 2006, 11:20 PM »

"Nigeria is not a nation. It is a mere geographical expression. The word 'Nigeria' is merely a distinctive appellation to distinguish those who live within the boundaries of Nigeria from those who do not."
- Chief Obafemi Awolowo

“The basis of unity [for Nigeria is] not there…” 
 - Gen. Yakubu Gowon (rtd)

when these men made these statements, they were not beside themselves. They saw beyond the "one nigeria" charade, they saw beyond the "ethnic rivalries and bickering" that has turned most nigerians into cowards, afraid to shape their own destiny for fear of an imaginary civil war.
Nigeria is indeed not a nation, it's people do not behave as nigerians. Indeed the people care nothing for nigeria, they do not respect it neither do they love it. Citizenship and patriotism has lost its meaning in "one nigeria".
Nigerians would rather be caught with a US flag than the green-white-green, millions of nigerians are fans of arsenal-till-i-die yet have no idea about the local soccer team in their local government.
The average Nigerian kid with no knowledge of Nigeria's history can boldly tell you all the hottest night clubs in NY despite having never been there.

In "one nigeria", nothing belongs to the people. Public property is no man's property and thus can be vandalized at will. We do not care for our landscape, we don't like our schools, we hate our leaders and most of us would rather sleep at home than go out and vote or for census.
Oct 1 is stay at home day, no one celebrates our national birthday because frankly no one remembers and the few that remember do not care enough to celebrate it.
We are not one Nigeria! The north wants sharia, the west want freedom and the east are biafrans rather than nigerians. We claim one nigeria and yet kill ourselves at the slightest opportunity. We are one nigeria yet political appointments are made on the basis of state of origin, federal character is firmly in place and our national honors has long been more about filling state quotas than actually rewarding excellence.
Our schools are packed with dumb cattle rearers to fill quotas from educationally less advanced states (in the 21st century!) while our brilliant minds spend their nights queueing at international embassies.

We all promote "one nigeria" and yet sit tight in another man's land. We claim nigerian politics is too complicated t guarantee a split, ours must surely be a strange kind of politics that ensures the only way out is by civil war. The north wants "one nigeria" because they lack human resources, natural resources and an access to the sea. Yet they kill other non-northerners for offences commited by europeans. Indeed we are all one nigeria!

We are indeed a nation of paradoxes, we call ourselves a federation and yet we run a unitary system of government. We are a democracy yet the president has absolute powers. We have houses of assemblies packed full with the "people's representatives" yet the only things they represent is their pockets and the state governors.
University employments and promotions are made on the basis of ethnicity and not scholarly achievement yet we promote ourselves as the beacon of the black race.
We do not want to split yet we know we are not compatible. We continue to force a contraption down on ourselves because we are too afraid to do the right thing. We forget that peace is not the absence of violence and that justice denied is only justice delayed.
DaHitler (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #126 on: May 22, 2006, 11:34 PM »

Davidylan, that is the best piece of writing I have seen in months! Great job.
ono (m)
Re: Should Nigeria Be Divided?
« #127 on: May 23, 2006, 10:19 AM »

davidylan,
The truth must be told. And you have done just that perfectly.

I will also add that the reason we are one is the Niger Delta Crude Oil - the Crude Gold, if you ask me.
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