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Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #32 on: June 13, 2006, 11:26 AM »

Food4tot,

You must be pulling my leg! That is great news!  Cheesy

So now that we know that Nigerians may have some concept of what Blackskin means.

It shouldn't be that hard to teach them the word ''American''.

After they learn the word ''American'', then they can be taught to put the two together:

Adulawo American.

Black American.

It must be the word American that is confusing Nigerians and the reason they need to say Akata.

I think we should start teaching Nigerians right away that somebody named Columbus discovered some land over here and now it is called America.

And in America they have a tribe of people called Adulawo.

So these people call themselves Adulawo Americans.

And they like being called Adulawo Americans.

They think you should respect what they call themselves and learn the word.

And imagine, some Nigerians have been known to be upset if you do not pronounce their long names correctly.

I am sure that Nigerians in Africa once learning about the land on the otherside of the world, would understand why Adulawo Americans prefer to be called by their name and not some slang word for them.

Who would have thunk it?
bluenubian (f)
Re: Akata?
« #33 on: June 13, 2006, 03:14 PM »

yeah i believe its a negative word, but that wont stop me from using it, heck most of them  don't know the meaning of it anyways. like the saying goes what you don't know wont hurt u
food4tot (f)
Re: Akata?
« #34 on: June 13, 2006, 03:35 PM »

 Sad bluenubian, you should get spanked for that statement you made.

Before you go on reading meaning to my next comment please note that the meaning of a word gets lost over time. But you keep refering to people using what you knew about them.

PLEASE, IT IS NOT A DEROGATIVE WORD, NEVER WAS.

The news people in africa heard was that the slaves were not taken away for any form of punishment or sacrifice but they were in fact taken away to work on farms.

Hence the Yoruba word A ka ata; meaning someone who plucks pepper.

A (someone who)
Ka: pluck
Ata: Pepper

Which could literally mean, "pepper plucker"

This is not meant to be derogatory, people are known by their profession.

A student is "Akeko" someone who learns culture. or to make more sense the direct translation should be "culture learner".

This doesn't mean that every word that starts with "a" has something to do with profession or vise versa.

Just as you have "er"/"or" in english you also have "a"/"o" in Yoruba.
A teacher is "oluko" meaning, someone who teaches.

"Olu" means someone who ,  Hence, words like OLUKUMI -pronounced LUKUMI (someone who is my kind). This is getting complicated "O" is the main thing, what comes after it e.g. "lu" as in the case of "OLU" is dependent on the word that comes after it. e.g. A word of insult like the english word Stupid Bastard is "Oloriburuku"  O="Someone who" Ori="Head" Bad="Buruku"
Gosh!! it gets even more complicated, I give up.
Rhodalyn (f)
Re: Akata?
« #35 on: June 13, 2006, 03:38 PM »

@blue Kiss

I second You! Cheesy Kiss
bluenubian (f)
Re: Akata?
« #36 on: June 13, 2006, 03:41 PM »

@food4tot
u remind me of my yoruba teacher that made me pay 1 naira evry time i spoke english in his class. Undecided Angry Undecided
food4tot (f)
Re: Akata?
« #37 on: June 13, 2006, 03:47 PM »

hehehe  Grin

I wish I am half as good as your yoruba teacher.
bluenubian (f)
Re: Akata?
« #38 on: June 13, 2006, 03:50 PM »

he was a dwarf little person
Rhodalyn (f)
Re: Akata?
« #39 on: June 13, 2006, 03:51 PM »

Lmao blue Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #40 on: June 13, 2006, 03:58 PM »

food4tot,


Come now. I am well aware that even Nigerians are ignorant of what Yoruba words mean.

But surely you know that Akata refers to a littel animal that lives in Sugar cane fields and eats sugar cane.

It is more or less a proper name, it is not divisible in the way that you have just divided it.

Akata is one indivisible word, like Marie or Thomas.

Any African American who hears somebody calling them an Akata, should have the exact reaction Hero did and cuss the person out.

Better yet, pull out a roll of toilet paper and offer to send it to Nigeria for their mama to learn of this new toilet paper technology.

It's an insult. Why play?
food4tot (f)
Re: Akata?
« #41 on: June 13, 2006, 04:12 PM »

LOL  Grin lmao

OKETE: Bush Rat
OKUTE: Rat (but normally simply called EKU)
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #42 on: June 13, 2006, 04:15 PM »

That's what I thought.   Cheesy


Grin
food4tot (f)
Re: Akata?
« #43 on: June 13, 2006, 04:16 PM »

names are compound words fused together to become a word.

Like, OLUWASEUN is a word. The name of the adminstrator of this site.
but it can be broken into

OLUWA (our maker)
OSEUN (thanks for what you've done)

the word means thanks to god for what he/she has done
(there is no such thing as HE or SHE in yoruba)
food4tot (f)
Re: Akata?
« #44 on: June 13, 2006, 04:28 PM »

Yoruba can be a very complex language, some words sometimes get abbreviated to the extent that you loose recognition of its origin.

SEUN means (Done something)

but the message you are passing across is I acknowledge that you've done something

IN SIMPLE TERMS, THAT IS THANK YOU !!!

people simply interpret "SEUN" as "THANKS"
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #45 on: June 13, 2006, 04:35 PM »

Food4tot,

Seun, for the information. I appreciate it.  Smiley
food4tot (f)
Re: Akata?
« #46 on: June 13, 2006, 05:28 PM »

You are welcome,

But simply saying seun is not grammatically right. It goes to show that I'm a bad teacher.

It makes better sense when it is OSEUN or OSE

the "s" is pronounced "sh"

In this case, "o" is different from the preceeding "o" in OLUWASEUN. It carries a different meaning. In this case it means : YOU

OSE: YOU HAVE DONE IT!
OSEUN: YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING!

OSE is more commonly used and it simply means THANK YOU Cheesy

Nia
Re: Akata?
« #47 on: June 13, 2006, 05:58 PM »

@ foot4tot

I agree with Drusilla on the breaking down of "akata". It's one word that wasn't meant to be broken down. It's a common name (similar to "oyinbo"). Furthermore, the pronounciation and inflection in pronounciation is different. The way you'd pronounce akata as in pepper picker is not the same as the pronounciation for the word being used to describe Afro- Americans.
chinani (f)
Re: Akata?
« #48 on: June 13, 2006, 06:07 PM »

Quote
In this case, the English standard for the word Niggardly or anything close to it, is widely known. So  no matter how much the speaker would claim ignorance, it did not fly.
Drusilla, I lost you hereniggardly is an actually word that is widely known to mean "provided in meanly limited supply".

"Niggardly is a word synonymous with stingy and miserly, and a niggard (noun) is a miser. They are both derived from the Old Norse verb nigla, meaning "to fuss about small matters". (The English word "niggle" retains the original Norse meaning.)"

"The Howard incident led to a national debate in the US., in the context of racial sensitivity and political correctness, on whether use of the word niggardly should be avoided because of its potential association with the extremely pejorative racial slur nigger, despite the entirely separate and unrelated etymologies of the two words ("nigger" derives from niger, the Latin for "black")."

It has no relation to the word "niger". So, again, I will not be ruled by another's ignorance in respect to this word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niggardly
http://m-w.com/dictionary/niggardly
chinani (f)
Re: Akata?
« #49 on: June 13, 2006, 06:16 PM »

Food4tot, very interesting. I agree with 90% of what you've said thus far. Wink I think the word prolly has Yoruba origins and can say amongst none Yoruba speakers it's spoken sans history.

Nia, so what do you understand the Yoruba origins to be? (I want to know b/c I'm not above changing my opinoin.)

Quote from: Drusilla on June 13, 2006, 03:58 PM
Come now. I am well aware that even Nigerians are ignorant of what Yoruba words mean.
Er, yes and no.

Quote from: Drusilla on June 13, 2006, 03:58 PM
But surely you know that Akata refers to a littel animal that lives in Sugar cane fields and eats sugar cane.
Who lied to you??? Do you really think that Nigerians have such a strong concept of sugar canes (or interest in them for that matter) that we'd name the animal that lives in the cane fields!?!?!?!? Undecided This is someone's  brilliant imagination. Papermoon's perhap? Lips sealed Grin

Quote from: Drusilla on June 13, 2006, 03:58 PM
It is more or less a proper name, it is not divisible in the way that you have just divided it. Akata is one indivisible word, like Marie or Thomas.
And you are certain b/c. . .? Why. . .? Are you a scholar on Nigerian pidgin? Yoruba language? Igbo loan words? What? I'm trying to understand your expertise.

Quote from: Drusilla on June 13, 2006, 03:58 PM
Better yet, pull out a roll of toilet paper and offer to send it to Nigeria for their mama to learn of this new toilet paper technology.
I'm confused but then again anything to teach Mummy new words. We're still on purple.
food4tot (f)
Re: Akata?
« #50 on: June 13, 2006, 06:33 PM »

Well, I know it means FOREIGNER but more often, it means AFRICAN AMERICAN. As per origin, I have given you the piece I know.

I am willing to change my view if you give me a better explanation to the word "akata"

chinani (f)
Re: Akata?
« #51 on: June 13, 2006, 06:45 PM »

Um, are you talking to me?
food4tot (f)
Re: Akata?
« #52 on: June 13, 2006, 06:51 PM »

Quote from: chinani on June 13, 2006, 06:45 PM
Um, are you talking to me?

NOPE, not you. My comment is directed to NIA and indirectly to Drusilla. Just to let them know I am open to a different explanation.
chinani (f)
Re: Akata?
« #53 on: June 13, 2006, 06:59 PM »

oic. Wink
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #54 on: June 13, 2006, 07:30 PM »

Foof4tot,

Ose!  Cheesy
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #55 on: June 13, 2006, 07:33 PM »

Nia,

Oyi = wind
nbo = mutant

Oyinbo = mutant who left africa

Grin
chinani (f)
Re: Akata?
« #56 on: June 13, 2006, 07:41 PM »

Quote from: Drusilla on June 13, 2006, 07:33 PM
Nia,

Oyi = wind
nbo = mutant

Oyinbo = mutant who left africa

 Grin
Er, is there some sort of Yoruba/English dictionary you're consulting?
food4tot (f)
Re: Akata?
« #57 on: June 13, 2006, 07:42 PM »

LOL, Grin Grin Grin

now thats funny, never heard of nbo being mutant.

some say it means skinless, I never bought that idea but it is interesting to note that "bo" is the verb peel. I couldn't break it up meaningully so I believe it is one word.

It means white man, (not only in the european sense though) albinos are called oyinbo, even chinese are also called oyinbo.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #58 on: June 13, 2006, 07:50 PM »

Chinani,

Quote from: chinani on June 13, 2006, 06:07 PM
Drusilla, I lost you here.

That is a simple yet profound statement.

Say no more. I understand exactly what happenned now.

Have a good day.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #59 on: June 13, 2006, 07:58 PM »

food4tot,

Full Albino = White
Leucistic Albino = Yellow

Leucistic is often referred to as Partial Albino.

Grin
chinani (f)
Re: Akata?
« #60 on: June 13, 2006, 08:08 PM »

Quote from: Drusilla on June 13, 2006, 07:50 PM
Quote
You lost me
Chinani,

That is a simple yet profound statement.

Say no more. I understand exactly what happenned now.

Have a good day.
So you are spouting gibberish now that your logic fails to hold water? With people like you who can not answer simple questions and triumph in taking comments out of context it is no wonder you are so easily offended. . .
Hero (m)
Re: Akata?
« #61 on: June 13, 2006, 08:13 PM »

Quote from: food4tot on June 13, 2006, 07:42 PM
LOL, Grin Grin Grin

now thats funny, never heard of nbo being mutant.

some say it means skinless, I never bought that idea but it is interesting to note that "bo" is the verb peel. I couldn't break it up meaningully so I believe it is one word.

It means white man, (not in the european sense though) albinos are called oyinbo, even chinese are also called oyinbo.

I thought the Chinese are called Chinko.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #62 on: June 13, 2006, 08:18 PM »

Hero,

Dat's jus wrong.  Grin
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata?
« #63 on: June 13, 2006, 08:25 PM »

Chinani,

It's just a post. So why the insults?
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