Should Wives Submit To Their Husbands?

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Babyosisi

If after all that's been going on, you still don't get my point then I don't know what to say.

Submission DOES NOT mean the same to everyone. You can say submission doesnt mean controlling but there are some mean who believe that is exactly what it means. He's the dominating one and she's the subservant one. Do everything I ask and maybe I wont make our marriage/relationship a living hell for you. That is what michelin was talking about and don't bother lying and saying such people don't exist because they do ESPECIALLY in African settings and this goes on from generation to generation. That's what we are talking out against
You yourself are going on about how widows are treated, if these men actually cared about their wives wouldnt they think about things like this. Infact if women were considered to be human would they even have to worry about such horrible things happening to them after a demise? Seriously?

You keep talking about what it means to you. Good for you, that's YOU though. There are people they go according to Seun's definition. Sure you can say that's not the correct one but many disagree with you. Do you know how many people are mentally and emotionally abusive, not even physically and use the whole "God said I'm the head" verse? They could easily say that submission means doing everything they say, who's the woman to talk against that when we have people around screaming that if they don't accept that then they are going to hell or whatever it is you people use to force others into following you.

It's one thing to say like Josh did that ohit should be mutual and all that, he did a good jobv on explaining his own idea of submission which i had no qualms with but im not going to go with the general idea because like i said it differs for each person.

I think Babyosisi's point (though I don't want to speak for her) is that the change in vocabulary doesn't change the intent. Mamaput essentially encourages her daughter's boyfriend to be submissive to her daughter. She sees nothing wrong in that, but seems to have a problem with Babyosisi's choice to be submissive in her marriage.

Babyosisi has specified that she believes submissiveness is not control, is obviously well-educated and likely successful, so she can't be accused of being her husband's handmaid. On the other hand, Mamaput's daughter basically has a lapdog for a boyfriend. He has to be told when to do his homework (!) and when he should go out to play (!) Mamaput--you're sure you no be grandmother? It be like say your daughter get pikin instead of boyfriend 

In all seriousness Mamaput, I don't see any difference in the characteristics you condemn in "controlling" marriages and what you positively describe as your daughter's "controlling" relationship with this guy. It's hard to justify condemning submission if you accept it wholeheartedly once the gender roles are reversed.

No one should ever glorify divorce.
We all expect our marriages to be for life but sometimes it doesn't turn out that way for one reason or another.
I have several close friends who are divorced and I see and hear the agony in their voices when they talk about what they went through.
There is no amicable divorce irrespective of what anyone says.

Breakdown of a marriage is almost like a death.
It is nothing to look forward to.

Dude can't even spell "liar". Pitiful


Lol tell that to Amy Irving.

and I don't see where she "glorified" it. She said it was inevitable for them because she realized that he wasnt a family man. She couldnt take how he was behaving as someone with children and they split, how is that glamourizing anything? If anything I just respect how they are still civil with each other especially with kids involved

call it what you like .
My daughter is a head person not a heart person.
Maybe the lapdog is just a heart person that is in love and will do anything for her

Dude, I rebuke you.

I'm not Igbo. I'm not part of your family, e jo.

You're so pathetic. Every word you've said has either been chalk full of immature rants or just you constantly contradicting yourself

One min his mother isnt happy because she's not being treated as an EQUAL in the household, the next minute he's talking about how united his family is.


You're a joke.

typical

lol 

lol, keep trying to hit at me when you should be talking to your "brother" osisi, lol now that's typical

please, Sister in Christ, tell me again how much you hate me  

someone asked his mother if she is happy she said now.
I wounder how many years.
If am unhappy a benz will not solve my problem only a man can think like that.
The same person should ask his wife if she is happy.

The point is that the standard should be universal---if it's good for your daughter, it should be good for someone else's son who wants a submissive wife.


Not that I doubt you, but I wonder why you're still friends/acquaintances with these people.


Nna, relax--it's just the internet.

My bros we are here to give good advice. I can't say rubbish because I am behind my pc.

I go out to the bar and meet  them.
They ask me were is my husband and i ask them were are their wives. We have a lot of fun together. I keep asking them to bring their wives but they say i will teach them their rights.
They want to keep their wives submissive.
And while they are spending time drinking way into the night , the wife the poor fool is waithing at home with the food.

I have better things to do than bother myself with other people's PERSONAL lives. Amebo.

are you going to correct your contradiction about your mother or you;re going to continue to be a mosquito to mamaput

To butter your bread my husband did not want more but i did so i went ahead.
I knew i was ready to have them with or without the father.