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TopBooty (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #32 on: April 27, 2008, 07:56 PM »

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it's funny the women so hung up on equality have no problem spewing gender roles about men being providers and protectors when it suits them. 

That's one of the advantages of the freeworld.
echolimabr (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #33 on: April 27, 2008, 08:08 PM »

it's only black people that looks at class. the quuen of England married someone less than her, imagine a queen marrying a prince and not a king and she is the head of many countries today.
Margaret Thatcher was a prime minister for so many years. If that was any of my sistas am sure you would have got rid of the man self becouse you are no longer compatable. Same applies to men.

LOOK AT THE TRUE MEANING OF LOVE AND STOP THE CRAP. YOU LOVE SOMEONE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE WITH THEM NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR BLOODY SOCIAL CLASS. NO WONDER THERE ARE SO MANY ROBBERS TODAY.

CLASS THIS ,CLASS THAT, ALL IS VANITY. HAPPINESS IS MOST IMPORTANT.
Mandora (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #34 on: April 27, 2008, 09:05 PM »

Trust me it works both ways (guys n girls)
TopBooty (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #35 on: April 27, 2008, 09:28 PM »

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it's only black people that looks at class. the quuen of England married someone less than her, imagine a queen marrying a prince and not a king and she is the head of many countries today.
Margaret Thatcher was a prime minister for so many years. If that was any of my sistas am sure you would have got rid of the man self becouse you are no longer compatable. Same applies to men.

LOOK AT THE TRUE MEANING OF LOVE AND STOP THE CRAP. YOU LOVE SOMEONE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE WITH THEM NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR BLOODY SOCIAL CLASS. NO WONDER THERE ARE SO MANY ROBBERS TODAY.

CLASS THIS ,CLASS THAT, ALL IS VANITY. HAPPINESS IS MOST IMPORTANT.
 

That's a faulted argument. White people practice the social class system very well. I hope you know that it's not only money that defines a social class. Did you even check why most noble white families will rather die than allow their son marry a jew, hispanic or black?
 
 
TopBooty (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #36 on: April 27, 2008, 09:30 PM »

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Trust me it works both ways (guys n girls)

True, but most guys don't necessarily consider social class as long as the woman is preety enough for them with correct boobs.
Okejazz (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #37 on: April 27, 2008, 10:16 PM »

I second that opinion----BOOBIES---OH YES!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.

More so, I do note from my personal account that ladies from low socioeconomic strata in comparison to the ones from higher social class are usually much more simple and humble. The same measure extends to men as well.
lucabrasi (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #38 on: April 28, 2008, 02:48 PM »

im all for women's lib and i believe everything in a marriage should be 50/50,so i don't think i can marry a girl from a lower class from mine,simply because if you do apart from the financial responsibilities of yourself and your wife,you might have to take care of your wife's family financially as well,take care of her siblings,daddy wants an operation,mummy wants this e.t.c which im not cool with,i know my parents will never need any financial help from me and the girl i ll  hook up with has to be in the same situation, not being a gold digger but just being practical
Uche2nna (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #39 on: April 28, 2008, 03:17 PM »

T hese kind of threads easily gets me confused. Many posts here about social strata seem to make one huge assumption : That everything is cast in stone, and that is where I beg to differ.

If social class for u means how noble u are as in the case of Kings or Queens then that is permanent. Once a blue blood always a blue blood. On the same hand if it is race , then again it is permanent. If You are a hispanic, black or white nothing changes that. You are always going to be that way.

But most of the posts here aint based on that. The basis is finance. Now tell me how is that permanent. You might be rich today but You can't really say of 2morrow. Life has a funny way of humbling people. Woe betide u as a man who got a wife based on what she percieved as social security and all of a sudden that "security is gone" Grin Thats when the full meaning of WOEman would dawn on you  Grin

And we men have to just let go of our ego. Assuming that You have to be earning more than your wife is sheer ignorance to say the least. Even if u get married to a woman who earns less than you, what assuarance do u have that the status quo would remain the same after 10 years. Well, maybe if u married a lazy wife then u would be assured of that but no man would willingly marry a lazy woman Cheesy your wife might be lucky in her job and earn promotions more than You. So watchu u going to do? Divorce her  Undecided
HR.hotness (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #40 on: April 28, 2008, 03:43 PM »

I think people are getting carried away

Social class is not determined purely material things,
other things such as breeding and grooming comes into play,
also education, family background, manners and refinement, language, aspiration and taste,,,


I definitely cannot marry below my social class, like someone mentioned earlier I aim to progress in life.
Of course i definately will marry someone who has worked himself into a higher social class (i don't mean in terms of income),after all i wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth and have worked hard to get to where i am today.

Every man should work towards attaining a better life and stop making stupid excuses
I'm not talking about money,,, i value manners and class over money
allboyz (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #41 on: April 28, 2008, 04:55 PM »

to the laies --what if the man too is rich, i mean he's okay can afford a car,a house ,a well- balanced 3 meal /day diet and yet does not have the kind of money the opposite sex had, will you ladies marry, ?

Scopium (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #42 on: April 28, 2008, 05:07 PM »

Quote from: TopBooty on April 27, 2008, 09:28 PM

That's a faulted argument. White people practice the social class system very well. I hope you know that it's not only money that defines a social class. Did you even check why most noble white families will rather die than allow their son marry a jew, hispanic or black?
 

I think you are slipping from social class into racism
D-reloaded (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #43 on: April 28, 2008, 05:09 PM »

Like she knows the difference.
Sisikill
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #44 on: April 28, 2008, 05:22 PM »

Why are we assuming someone from a "lower social class" won't be able to provide for his family? There are people who grew up poor and are doing very well now.


@ Topic
From the responses, i think you should change your topic to something like "Why can't a girl from an obscenely wealthy home marry a guy from an abject poverty stricken home"
TopBooty (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #45 on: April 28, 2008, 06:11 PM »

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I think you are slipping from social class into racism
Not really, some white folks claim they are not racists but classify themselves as the upper echelon that will rather not mic up their genes with someone whom they consider to be of lower class. These families will do anything from stopping their sons/daughters from marrying a black but if the black spouse is super rich/celebrity, they'll allow it. Are they necessarily racists or obsessed with  the class culture?
TopBooty (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #46 on: April 28, 2008, 06:13 PM »

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Why are we assuming someone from a "lower social class" won't be able to provide for his family? There are people who grew up poor and are doing very well now.

It's a natural phenomenon. No one knows tommorow. What we are arguing is the spouse presently has a poor background and is not yet rich or he/she is yet to achieve a higher social status but that does not necessarily mean he/she will remain there forever.
Uche2nna (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #47 on: April 28, 2008, 06:23 PM »

Quote from: TopBooty on April 28, 2008, 06:13 PM

It's a natural phenomenon. No one knows tommorow. What we are arguing is the spouse presently has a poor background and is not yet rich or he/she is yet to achieve a higher social status but that does not necessarily mean he/she will remain there forever.


If we understand that this so-called "class" as defined by most posters here is dynamic, then why are we going to be making marriage decisions based on it. I believe marriage should be based on something more stable than our so called "class".
TopBooty (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #48 on: April 28, 2008, 06:47 PM »

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If we understand that this so-called "class" as defined by most posters here is dynamic, then why are we going to be making marriage decisions based on it. I believe marriage should be based on something more stable than our so called "class".

I very much agree with you but our agreement doesn't make any difference  because 95%  Nigerians surely hold on to it like our life is dept on it.

One quick question tho: If you want to take out class for the marriage equation, does it mean that a truck pusher in Naija can try his luck with a college professor? or a vice versa? Nature sometimes defines class for us.
TopBooty (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #49 on: April 28, 2008, 07:04 PM »

Sunday, April 27, 2008 

See what happens when you marry outside your class

By Chinyere Fred-Adegbulugbe


Love, they say, is blind. However, many people have argued that, though love could be blind, marriage, a product of so many love relationships, is an eye opener. Most times, when people want to marry “outside,” they are surprised that people around dissuade them from taking the decision. Love, they say, should be above class, culture and religion. And if the two people getting married are already sharing the same religion, what else could possibly be an obstacle? Certainly, not class, they usually reason.



 


 

 But really class does matter. More often than not, an individual‘s class is usually defined by a number of factors. Normally, this refers to someone‘s economic or social level. It could also be both. It is therefore given that people within different classes must have some major differences that may not be easily wished away.

That was what happened to Nnamdi. According to him, during his youth service, he met this very lovely girl at the place of his primary assignment. “She was so beautiful that almost every man in the corps’ members’ lodge were after her. In the end, the lady, who just finished a five years’ course in a commercial school in the town, agreed to date him. And because he was very sincere, before his service came to an end, he proposed marriage to her. Of course, her parents, who were petty traders in the village, couldn‘t believe their good luck; they promptly gave their consent.

However, Nnamdi‘s parents‘ reaction was something else. “My mother cried and cried, while my father told me, with very cold eyes, that he was greatly disappointed in me.

“Though the marriage did take place and Linda managed to get into a university and had a degree in English afterwards, the marriage, he confessed, wasn‘t what he had dreamt. Even after his parents had come to terms with the fact that he was married and that there was nothing anyone could do about it, Linda couldn‘t just fit in.

“Anytime my friends come around, she would withdraw to her shell and many of them thought she was being unfriendly. However, she was battling with timidity. Even after passing through the university, her childhood and where she came from refused to leave her. I could hardly go with her for parties and other social events because she would sure spoil my day. Not that I didn‘t see these things before, but I thought that, with love and patience from me, she would change,” he says.

But he was wrong. She didn‘t. And that was when the crack started in their union. He started keeping late nights and hardly invited his friends home anymore. Then the devil came in person of a female colleague that came from another branch.

”Angela and I had to work together and before long we became friends. Of course, the relationship was quite platonic at the beginning, but as we interacted, we discovered we had a lot in common and many things I couldn‘t discuss with my wife, I discussed freely with Linda,” he recollects.

Of course, he not only had an affair with her, after two years, he had bad news for his wife. He wanted another wife. His family, once again was devastated. He was bringing shame to the family by having a second wife. But his mind was made up. He married Angela, but he couldn‘t divorce Linda because he was sorry for her.

Today, he is a husband of two wives, something he never imagined could happen to him.

Certainly, there are marriages like this, where things went differently, but it usually takes a lot of hard work. Marriage experts would tell you that if have to marry below your class, you must be prepared to sacrifice a lot of things. And if you dare marry above your class you should also be ready to work hard towards fitting in. Invariably, people who go into such marriages should also be ready to work really hard at making the union successful.


http://odili.net/news/source/2008/apr/27/414.html

Uche2nna (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #50 on: April 28, 2008, 07:25 PM »

Quote from: TopBooty on April 28, 2008, 06:47 PM

I very much agree with you but our agreement doesn't make any difference because 95% Nigerians surely hold on to it like our life is dept on it.

One quick question tho: If you want to take out class for the marriage equation, does it mean that a truck pusher in Naija can try his luck with a college professor? or a vice versa? Nature sometimes defines class for us.

your example is hilarious Grin. Thats like pushing the argument to the extreme. For instance, the chances of a truck pusher meeting a prof in a romantic setting is very slim and I too would be very surprised if it happened. In your example of the truck pusher and the prof, apart from the obvious disparity in earning power there are plenty of other issues that would present a problem thus making them incompatible. And to me it is all about compatibility, not neccesarily class as defined by most of the posts here.

Quote from: TopBooty on April 28, 2008, 06:47 PM



One quick question tho: If you want to take out class for the marriage equation

You see I am not really taking out class for marriage , I am only wary about the definitions ascribed to "class". Money does not necessarily bring class and vice versa. You might be very rich as a man and yet be a complete asshole when it comes in terms of managing your matrimonial home.
Seun (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #51 on: April 28, 2008, 08:57 PM »

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Money does not necessarily bring class and vice versa. You might be very rich as a man and yet be a complete asshole when it comes in terms of managing your matrimonial home.
Being a complete asshole has nothing to do with social class.  There are complete assholes in every class.
Ajebota (f)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #52 on: April 29, 2008, 07:00 PM »

money is definitely NOT class. 'Class' incorporates etiquette, worldly exposure, social standing, family history, schooling, IQ, language, interest in cultural and social activities and the list goes on. Think along the lines of new money, old money.These things are part of the factors that make a couple compatible. My 50 pence.
amaikama (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #53 on: April 30, 2008, 04:56 PM »

Topbooty! you are one hundred percent correct.`at least it coming from a lady point of view now.  Angry go on and ask some of your sister why are they acting like that ?  Angry
oyb (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #54 on: April 30, 2008, 05:01 PM »

hotfunmi  and the nth coming  Grin
amaikama (m)
Re: Romance And Social Class
« #55 on: April 30, 2008, 05:05 PM »

"it's only black people that looks at class. the quuen of England married someone less than her, imagine a queen marrying a prince and not a king and she is the head of many countries today.
Margaret Thatcher was a prime minister for so many years. If that was any of my sistas am sure you would have got rid of the man self becouse you are no longer compatable. Same applies to men.

LOOK AT THE TRUE MEANING OF LOVE AND STOP THE CRAP. YOU LOVE SOMEONE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE WITH THEM NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR BLOODY SOCIAL CLASS. NO WONDER THERE ARE SO MANY ROBBERS TODAY.

CLASS THIS ,CLASS THAT, ALL IS VANITY. HAPPINESS IS MOST IMPORTANT."

I second to that my brother. Wink
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