Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament

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bimpe001 (f)
Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« on: April 30, 2008, 06:33 PM »

Does the new testament completely rule out the significance of the old testament?As some people just focus more on the new testament and maybe once in a while make references to the old testament!
mazaje (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #1 on: April 30, 2008, 06:43 PM »

The God potrayed in the new testament is not the same with the one in the old testament.
JeSoul (f)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #2 on: April 30, 2008, 06:51 PM »

  I think those who simply focus on the NT are missing out on a whole lot. There's so much to be learned from the OT, couple of which are the many prophecies made in the OT we see fulfilled in the NT. How would we know unless we read the OT?
There are many stories of the miracles and wonders that God did. We see a side of God and the greatness of His power in stories like the crossing of the red sea, the great flood, the plauges, the battles, making the sun stand still and go back etc . . .we have a glimpse in the OT to a God beyond imagination.
 One of the greatest points is that we see the difference between the old covenant and the new one we have through Jesus Christ. The purpose of the Law was to show us our need for Jesus. Thus having a knowledge of the past and how things were, we can better understand and appreciate what Jesus did for us on the cross. We are under grace as made possible by the death of Christ. . . a very different and an infinitely better system than the old folks had.
 
 there are many more points but I'm sure my fellow NLder's will add them.
jennykadry (f)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testa
« #3 on: April 30, 2008, 07:06 PM »

the new testament has not ruled out anything,afterall d old testaments has  lots of chapters for blessings(psalms deutronomy,isaiah,proverbs and so on) more than d new one,its just that d viloence in d old testament was been nolified by d death of christ,therefore providing  us so much grace and mercy even when we err and err and err
dreamnaira (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #4 on: May 02, 2008, 10:37 AM »

Jesus during his ministry on earth never oneday invalidate the OT, rather he said "think not that i am come to destroy the law, or the prophets{prophetic writings or prophecies}: i am not come to deatroy, but to filful. For verily, verily i say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one title shall not in no wise pass from the law,till all be filfuled. Whosoever therefore shall teach break one of these commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Mtt5:17.

Jesus is not talking about the NT here but the OT. The NT is commentary of the OT.
Jesus "it is written" was not refering to NT but OT.

You can't build something on nothing, The NT is empty without the OT. The OT was written through christ command. "All scriptures{OT & NT}is given by inspiration of God" 2Timothy 3:16
olabowale (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #5 on: May 02, 2008, 12:28 PM »

@Mazaje:
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The God potrayed in the new testament is not the same with the one in the old testament.
Two gods in one book: The Bible. One god for the Jews in OT. And a different god for the Christians in NT. I guess the christian brethrens saw yor entry and avoided it like a plague.

You are on your own, in explanation. Please try because I am many people are waiting to read your shaky explanation.
 
Frizy (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #6 on: May 02, 2008, 12:43 PM »

I think the history of the new testament is very shady. Early Christians who met with Jesus weren't worshipping him but Paul and the others began the doctrine that was believed to wipe away the truth. Christians no offence. Has anyone of you read the Gospel of Barnabas? His Gospel was probably before Paul's and he was an apostle to Jesus.
Paul never encountered Jesus face to face while he(Jesus) was alive except his claim that Jesus appeared to him even after his death. Barnabas' Gospel is the truth considering Jesus. And people(Christians) who believed in it were prosecuted.
The Church destroyed any link relating to the Gospel of Barnabas and became a strong advocate for Paul's false doctrine.

Therefore my conclusion is that the New testament most Christians believe in is not what Jesus himself preached. And God confirmed the Old testament changed in some parts in order to fit the rabbis' illegitimate means.

Why not believe in the Ko'ran and stop contemplating on which should be considered or not. That will surely save you from an awful doom.
bawomolo (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #7 on: May 03, 2008, 04:26 AM »

God went from God of the jews to God for everyone in the new testament. o merciful one
huxley (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testa
« #8 on: May 03, 2008, 08:21 AM »

I wonder what Exodus 21:17 say?
elizabetta (f)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #9 on: May 03, 2008, 10:35 AM »

Christians focus more on the NT because Christianity started with the NT Acts2.:37-47,in verse 47 the bible say and the "Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved"so u see that Christianity started when Jesus came.The OT is still important for us Christians because the bible also stated in Rom15:4, 1Cor10:11,"That whatsoever things were written afore-time were written for our learning that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope"also read Rom10:4,2Cor 3:13-14,Galatians3:10-12,verse24-25,Galatians5:14.the answers are there in these passages.
Backslider (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #10 on: May 09, 2008, 08:45 AM »

THE NEW TESTAMENT IS THE OLD TESTAMENT REVEALED

To them hath understanding let him understand.
A_K_O (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #11 on: May 09, 2008, 10:55 AM »

Quote from: huxley on May 03, 2008, 08:21 AM
I wonder what Exodus 21:17 say?

Who here has cursed their parents?
olabowale (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #12 on: May 09, 2008, 01:49 PM »

The questioner is asking that the exodus verse be thoroughly explained, pastor. Your asking question gives us an impression that you are trying to deflect your religious responsibility to us laypersons of nairaland. Please explain, instead of hidig behind a single finder of your hand!
donduke (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #13 on: May 09, 2008, 02:03 PM »

the old testament is the picture, the NT is the reality. We have type upon type in the OT to show us who the person and office of Jesus Christ will be. Without the prophecies of the OT, the NT will be an intrusion on history. So, the NT does not invalidate the OT. However, the NT does show that a lot of the religious ceremonies and rituals are abolished. The believer should wonder why he needs animal sacrifice when the supreme sacrifice - the cross - has been made.
A_K_O (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #14 on: May 09, 2008, 02:13 PM »

Quote from: olabowale on May 09, 2008, 01:49 PM
The questioner is asking that the exodus verse be thoroughly explained, pastor. Your asking question gives us an impression that you are trying to deflect your religious responsibility to us laypersons of nairaland. Please explain, instead of hidig behind a single finder of your hand!

I am not deflecting anything or hiding anywhere or trying to start an argument. I just do not see how the verse connects with or relates to this thread. If it does maybe Huxley can do us a favor and expatiate.

Regarding the exodus vers, this is what it says:
"Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.

It's a law of God under the old covenant. It does not apply today because we are under the new covenant. If you disagree with this youre on your own because I ain't getin into no useless argument with no moouslim. Because at the end of all the typing and rambling we still would not agree with each other.
fyneguy
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #15 on: May 10, 2008, 12:39 PM »

@Ako

lol  I have made up my mind not to embark on any religious argument with muslims. I will preach the gospel to them. Whoever loves himself will embrace Jesus.

It's really pointless discussing spiritual things with sense-ruled people muchless self-confessed slaves.
fyneguy
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #16 on: May 10, 2008, 12:41 PM »

the forum changed the word mooslims to great ones.  why?
olabowale (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #17 on: May 10, 2008, 06:49 PM »

The NT nollifies the OT only when its convenient to push the Christian agendas. Otherwise, it is left in the Bible to give the impression of fullness to the Bible.
4 Him (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #18 on: May 10, 2008, 06:58 PM »

 
Quote from: olabowale on May 10, 2008, 06:49 PM
The NT nollifies the OT only when its convenient to push the Christian agendas. Otherwise, it is left in the Bible to give the impression of fullness to the Bible.

Still parading your puerile, false arguments around? The NT is OT prophecy revealed, both are as relevant to the average christian today as they were 2000yrs ago.
Ndipe (m)
Re: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament
« #19 on: May 11, 2008, 12:59 AM »

Jesoul, May God Almighty bless you for that answer you gave in the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
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