The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel)

4Him
it seem you cann't satisfy may question I ask you?

what is the Gospel of Jesus preached to his 11 disciple if we disregard Barnabas?


when was the Jews citizen ship declare 4000 years back?

why Jesus call his god instead called himself if he is God?

@babs787
Thanks for the info, we're still coming to that.
Salam

Chapter 22   Miserable condition of the uncircumcised in that a dog is better than they.

The disciples questioned Jesus on that day, saying: 'O master, why didst thou make such answer to the woman, saying that they were dogs?'
Jesus answered: 'Verily I say unto you that a dog is better than an uncircumcised man.' Then were the disciples sorrowful, saying: 'Hard are these words, and who shall be able to receive them?'
Jesus answered: "If ye consider, O foolish ones, what the dog doth, that hath no reason, for the service of his master, ye will find my saying to be true. Tell me, doth the dog guard the house of his master, and expose his life against the robber? Yea, assuredly. But what receiveth he? Many blows and injuries with little bread, and he always showeth to his master a joyful countenance. Is this true?'  'True it is, O master,' answered the disciples.
Then said Jesus: 'Consider now how much God hath given to man, and ye shall see how unrighteous he is in not observing the covenant of God made with Abraham his servant. Remember that which David said to Saul king of Israel, against Goliath the Philistine: "My lord," said David, "while thy servant was keeping thy servant's flock there came the wolf, the bear, and the lion and seized thy servant's sheep: whereupon thy servant went and slew them, rescuing the sheep. And what is this uncircumcised one but like unto them ? Therefore will thy servant go in the name of the Lord God of Israel, and will slay this unclean one that blasphemeth the holy people of God."
Then said the disciples: 'Tell us O master for what reason man must needs be circumcised?"
Jesus answered: 'Let it suffice you that God hath commanded it to Abraham. saying: "Abraham, circumcise thy foreskin and that of all thy house, for this is a covenant between me and thee for ever.''

This same ERROR continues to creep up again and again no matter how loudly you slaves are corrected. Barnabas was never one of the 12 disciples.


This has NO biblical basis.



That is ridiculously false. The "gospel" attributed to Barnabas was written in both Spanish and Italian, languages that were certainly not spoken by Barnabas who would have written his gospel either in hebrew (his mother tongue), aramaic or greek (which he spoke fluently having been born in Cyprus).


Its the same error again and again, bogus claims made by dishonest charlatans who fail to either back them up in the bible or through secular history.


followers of Paul in 325 A.D? Emperor Constantine convened the first council of Nicene in 325 AD, what these liars however fail to take into consideration is the fact that Paul was martyred by the GOVERNMENT OF ROME! How can they who killed him suddenly become his followers?


notice that no shred of proof is given here.


We have already poked gaping holes into the fraudulent claim that Barnabas was a companion of Jesus Christ (as this has no biblical basis), it is therefore not hard to take their claims of the gospel of barnabas being the most authentic gospel as being blatantly false.

Note shld also be taken that Barnabas could not have spoken Spanish and Italian (the language of his alleged gospel).


Because letters of Barnabas were written in a language he could never have been speaking in the 1st century. Its not rocket science.

Open your eyes, the arabs are colonising North Africa today. When Lebanon became a nation it was majority christian, today the christian population has all but disappeared, what's left is for Lebanon to add "isla'mic republic" to its name.


If mus'lims had the millitary might of russia or the US, Israel would have never even existed, jews would be extinct, blacks would be pushed into the sea (remember Usman Dan Fodio) and the entire world would be one large caliphate.


yes and those mus'lims helped them by taking over their country? brilliant strategy.

Chapter 24   Notable example how one ought to flee from banqueting and feasting.

Having said this, Jesus wept, saying: 'Woe to those who are servants to their flesh, for they are sure not to have any good in the other life, but only torments for their sins. I tell you that there was a rich glutton who paid no heed to aught but gluttony, and so every day held a splendid feast. There stood at his gate a poor man by name Lazarus, who was full of wounds, and was fain to have those crumbs that fell from the glutton's table. But no one gave them to him; nay, all mocked him. Only the dogs had pity on him, for they licked his wounds. It came to pass that the poor man died, and the angels carried him to the arms of Abraham our father. The rich man also died, and the devils carried him to the arms of Satan; whereupon, undergoing the greatest torment, he lifted up his eyes and from afar saw Lazarus in the arms of Abraham. Then cried the rich man: "O father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, who upon his fingers may bring me a drop of water to cool my tongue, which is tormented in this flame."
'Abraham answered: "Son, remember that thou receivedst thy good in the other life and Lazarus his evil; wherefore now thou shalt be in torment, and Lazarus in consolation."
'The rich man cried out again, saying: "O father Abraham, in my house there are three brethren of mine. Therefore send Lazarus to announce to them how much I am suffering, in order that they may repent and not come hither."
'Abraham answered: "They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them."
'The rich man answered: "Nay, father Abraham; but if one dead shall arise they will believe."
'Abraham answered: "Whoso believeth not Moses and the prophets will not believe even the dead if they should arise.
'See then whether the poor are blessed,' said Jesus, 'who have patience, and only desire that which is necessary, hating the flesh. O wretched they, who bear others to the burial, to give their flesh for food of worms, and do not learn the truth. So far from it that they live here like immortals, for they build great houses and purchase great revenues and live in pride.'

@4Him: If one group a place and bring truth to them, it is far better in the future than a group that invades and brought along fallacies and other layers of ills. How far did the French go before they were finally shamed out of Algeria. Who were the people killed enmasse again in Algeria? The citizens, both arabs and non arabs. All of them Africans. The last I check, the National team of Egypt is named Pharaoh (terrible name it is, if you ask me for a m.u.sli.m people to call themselves. Am not even shocked since Babangida calls himself Evil-genius!), and they won the last two of the African cup of nations soccer tornaments.

Your claim will not wash. And I am very familiar with evil done by individuals on others. And I know that the M.us.lims are not immune as the culprits both on mus.li.ms and non m.US.lims. However, in the 21st century, which we are still less than 10 years into it, it is the Christians and their surrogate mother and father Jews who are capable of true invasion and colonization of M.us.li.m and non mu.s.lim land and peoples. A person's body could be oppressed by force, you can never overcome what it in the heart and the essence of the soul. Blame the Christian nations before you have even the begin with the nations of i.s.lam, which there is truly none  right now. You can blame individuals and that will be okay with me as long as you reflect on yourself, too.


I know of Uthman Dan Fodio (Usman Dan Fodio), and you should look at what type of people surrounded M.u.ha.mmad to actually what is required of  m.us.li.ms. Neither Moses who had a larger followers, during the height of his mission, at the time of exodus from Egypt and Jesus who had less people than him at the height of his own mission, had anyone who could not be considered a part of their ethnicity, tribes and nations of people.

But in the case of Mu.ha.mmad, we see clearly that whites (Shuaib AlRoma), Asians (Salman AlFarsi), Blacks (Bilah Rabah) and Arabs (Abu Bakr), all of them followed him. All of them, men and women, poor and rich, free and enslaved who were later freed followed him. The first thing that occurred when this noble soul and his followers got to Madina was that alliance and treaty were formed and forment the people, without leaving anyone out of this relationship. We see that Madina became the envy of her surrounding as it progressed to a city that had no continuous wars within her various ethnic groups. The Jews did not like the presence of Mu.ha.mmad and his followers, and this was the single reason that they tried to undermine him just because he was not a Jewish prophet. You should ask yourself why did the Jews emigrated in largest quanity in the arabia to Madina?

I do not want to lecture you of the benefits which you know already, but refusing to accept. But quit the deceit, please.

And what strategy is playing out in Iraq and or in Afghanistan, today? We now have a steady stream of Christians in these places. First as "liberators" and then it is laced with Missionaries and the missionary works. What strategy, David? Please you need to have the strength to watch the videos on google about the atrocities of Christian missionariies all over the conquered m.US.lim lands: google; Christian missionary Atrocities. I am sure you will find other related atrocious actions from the Jewish state, whose military and policy is geared to killing the Arab palestians in a slow and excruciating death. You will see how they have been using sledge hammer and stone to break the bones of their captives, without a crack on the skin surface. They, the jews have perfected this type of destuctions and humiliations to an art.

In 1990, a british jewish war person told me how they humiliated the mu.sl.ims they captured in wars with Israel; they feed him pork ad of course shave his beard. Lewis Elford was living in my home at that time. Just imagine how I felt when my guest was telling me this. But then, he lived with me for months before he went back to England. I am happy to be a m.US.li.m which was the reason he survived his statement. Just imagine if it was a mu.s.lim that was telling the story to his jewish guest. I know the Jews, far more than you will ever know them, so don't give response off the cuff.

David, where does our hypocricy lie. That we try and show you that the closest Gospel to Christ is to propagated and not confided? If you see clearly, you must differentiate who the hypocrites are to who are not!

@4Him


Why you avoiding my question regarding the preaching of Jesus which Gospel are the fundamental doctrines he delivers to his apostle/minister?






When was that the nationality of French, German and British and Jews declare their residency is that in 4000 year back? Then if not 4000 years back the residency of the Jews people are unrecognized. Then you question have been answer not all the prophet came to be a Jews as what you convey before.




You just run off  when your god call another deity instead call himself. You just make me laughed    lol how you justify those word! And non of you can truly articulate for that facts.

@4Him: There were prophets before the father of the Jews, Judah. There were prophets before Ibrahim, who is the great grandfather of Joseph, and his brothers, including the one known as Judah. It is this Judah's descendants the should be called Jews. Of course, just like everything else in the Bible the truth is ever stretched so thinly to cover what it does cover, and or the fallacy which is bent to cajole people to accept the "new Truth!"

So not all prophets are from Ibrahim's family tree. And not all prophets from Ibrhim's family tree are from secondary branche of Israelites, or the primary branch of Isaac descendants. It is clear that Ismail was a prophet before his younger brother Isaa. And after the door of the Isaac family tree prophethood was shut, All.ah raise from Ismail branche of ibrahim family tree Mu.hammad. All the doors of prophethood were shut with him.

And which of the languages the Bible manuscipts is based on, was the language that Jesus was given the Gospel (all that he taught) to deliver to his people? Until you find original Bible in that language, a Bible that must be written down at the time of revelation or ministries of those prophets, you will be unable to present, even for yourself a viable Bible.

I am confident that the God who sent Jesus as His "words" did not sed him in English, or latin, italian, or Greek and other languages to Jewish people, whose mother tongue is either Hebrew or Aramaic, both being Sematic languages. God could not have let Jesus go to his people delivering the commandment of God in a strange tongue. I was wondering that the Christians did not realise that the creation process of Jesus by his Lord, was so easy for that Lord.

Afterall, if Jesus was not a creation, he would have just came down from heaven as a fully grown man. But God created Jesus in a miraculous way that can be accepted by the hearts of men, yet the Christians exagerated it so much that they made him into a deity.

Olabowale

I don't understand why u and the rest of the muuuuslim posters, most especially Frizy, are still thinking that this gospel is true. It is not.
I am writing to you because you seem to be the only sensible one in the group.

So here is what I will tell you.

The Gospel is most definitely fake.

Barnabas was not a disciple of Christ. He was not among the 12
The script was written in Italian and Spanish. Those languages were not spoken around the time he walked the earth. hE DIDN'T write it.

I don't understand why u guys are trying desperately to cling to the false truths. If you're so desperate to spread the truth, please let it actually be the truth.
Just because something supports your idea doesn't mean that it is true. It may have been fabricated.
Especially since the gospel does not go in line with the other gospels, the other gospels were written by the disciples or direct followers of them.

Seriously it wouldn't make sense for me to write a script about Islaam in Italian and the Christians call it truth because everyone knows that Islaaam does not acknowledge any other language but Arabic. So it wouldn't make sense that u all are trying to cling on to a script that COULD NOT have been written by the alleged author.

Let it go. It's not truth. Simple as that.

What is your prove for this statement. Please don't come here and starting crying that it was a 14th or 15th century published book. What many of you christians don't understand is you don't even know the history of the church.During and immediately after Christ's ascension, there was no one that worshipped Christ as you do now. Barnabas we know was instructed by Christ to write the scripture(as in whatever he saw). When Paul started to change his mind and proclaim a new faith-Christianity, all the disciples were afriad of him except Barnabas who accepted him.

They(barnabas and your oga) differed since Paul believed in the trinity system. Paul must have thought that the only way to win people to his new faith was to indoctrinate some of the paganic custom of the Greek or Romans. Even in your bible there places that says Barnabas accepted Paul, however in a verse from the Bible, there was a misunderstanding between the two. Possibly because of the believe that Jesus was God or Son of God and trinity.

In history, we can say that the church was divided into two. The first were the people following the monotheism belief that God is one and none is equal unto Him and the other believed in trinity. However, later on there was war and christians with the eariler belief were killed and the books were burnt.

Now, it is very possible that the Gospel of Barnabas was destroyed and the only copy was translated to Italian or Spanish. No Mus'lim will wholeheartly write a book that has some differences away from the Ko'ran as all your sources like that stupid answeringislam.com claims. .


Let me ask you. Have you read the book or do you have a copy? You may have never read or heard about it. But you christians are very rigid when it comes to knowing the truth. The only thing you find them flexible with is deceiving themselves, and thinking they make a fool. What an irony.


Why because a foolish writer from answeringislam.com can write to fool many retards!


They never get the message. All they know is finding excuses. Who do you fool? Us or you. Your likeness is as one that refuses to read and believes he knows all.


What will my benefit of you knowing the truth be if it is God's will to lead you astray. Deaf,dumb and blind. And they return not.



95% of people who God has shown the truth believe is it truer than your Pauline bible. I have said it times without number, from the Old testament to the New, they're written by completely different authors that disguises with the true author's names.


Well how many Mus'lims in Nigeria understand Arabic?Does language have anything doing with the message therein?Your ignorance is between you and your God. Tell me, the fact that it was in spanish or italian. Does this mean it was the first copy or only retrived.

Okay, what is the truth?! That a man is your god?

Did you even read my last post?

@Davidylan: When I am angry at you I will call you 4Him. But will always be David to me , Davidylan. And by the way, was not the language of Rome Italian and in its pure matriculated form, Latin? I believe Rome was the ruler of the land where Jesus was born, before  during and at the time you claimed that he was crucified. Were the Were the Romans speaking a different language than Latin/italiano? Was Spain not a country at that time and speaking a derivative of the Latin language of Europe? Why is latin a collection of languages which includes Spanish? Why are the latin people of America mainly Spanish, even extending to the Americas. Have you heard of Latin America, David?



And after this, then you are the hypocrite and and liar? The prophets are Hud, Saleh, and Shuaib (as to all of them). You asked for the three and you got them? Now what? And I have not mentioned the granddaddy of all prophethood and messengership, (the noblest of them. And he is not a Bani-Israil.



Adam, Idris and Noah (as to all of them). They are all before Ibrahim (as). And I had mentioned three others before him, above.


I think we are discussing trinity/triun here. All of a sudden you get stung by threes? Come on David. Agba ni tara mi.
Ibrahim, Ismail, and Isiaq (as to all of them) None of them was a Jew. Do you even know who the first generation of Jews were, or when the term was used to denote ethnic or religion?


Surah Ambiyya. Read it.  First it is clear that he worshipped in the same way as his father Ibrahim. And I wonder what Books written by John and his fathe Zachariah are called? Yet they were Prophets(as to both father and son). Afterall, the son was good enough to baptize Jesus, your god.  Who really is the greater the one who was baptized or the one who did the baptism? You are just exposing the house of cards of Christendom and its book.

I asked a question earlier, about the laws and commandments of Moses that Jesus himself obeyed in fulfilments. The same laws and commandments that he warned that should be kept and said those who disregard it will be the least in the kingdom of heaven. I asked backslider if to be least is not equal of being condemn its usage here. Can you shed light on it for me, since Jesus will say to some Christians in the day of Judgement that he does not know them? And those people will be telling Jesus but they healed and did good miracles by his name, but he will not listento them.

Do you not see that all of the people who go against this Jesus warning about disrespecting the laws ad rules of Moses could actually be the people who will go to hellfire here, the least in the kingdom of heaven? You know that could be practically the whole of Christendom and least in the kingdom can never translate to be any part of paradise you know.


A.ll.ah Ta'ala. He always have the authority. He says in His Book, ' They plan, and A.l.lah plans. And Al.lah is the Best of Planners (Those who plan)."


See how terrible your understanding of your own book is? The first language that you wrote is greek? You have relegated the Semitic languages listed after it as secondary and unimportant. Tell me was Greek the laguage of which Prophet now? Jesus? You are on your own here.

Wouldn't have been interesting that the Yorubas conduct their cultural affairs in English, or Igbo or Hausa? Wouldn't it be interesting that Igbo people use Yoruba language to tell their own story and their "proverbs" which they are very eloquent in? Would the proverbs of the Igbo people carry the same weight in the hearts of the Igbo people if they use English to tell it amongst themselves? Even ~Lady~ who is a Bini will not tell Edo story in Yoruba, if she speaks it or in the English language she has mastered. Yet the Bini people have the same culture, almost totally as the larger yoruba people. She was reminding me the other day that the Binis are forebearers of the Yorubas. I dare not disagree with her.

The point is this, how is great the language that you chose first when it comes to a succession of revelations given to Sematic people? See the dishonesty here? I hope your heart can grasp the meaning.

I do not have to google for this. Simply present me with a 1000 year old copy of the Bible. I will present something older than 1000 years old of the Q.ur'a.n. Then you will see where your difficulty is.


In all the times that God dealt with the people of the earth, there was not a single time that he walked the surface of the earth. He can control the affairs of His creations without being one of the creations. Can't you operate the computer without being in the computer or becoming a computer? And yet you are saying the Unique Lord God Almighty Creator will have to become a human to understand and or forgive humans?

It is my love for you that drive me to warn you of the dire consequences of your belief.
 



@~Lady~: I wish you well. Hope your yesterday was memorable.


You don't get it, do you? For me it is a direct pointer that there are varied opinion to devinity of jesus. All of them, since they are not all agreeing with the other view point(s), can not be correct. My question to you is that could it not be that somebody exagerated here? Is memorex equalsto live? Is maybe equals actually? Is fantasy equals to reality? Is fallacy equals to truth? Can human equals to God?


@Cgift: Okare. She bi won she nsoma raisi ni yen? lol.
Nice summary, indeed. Those who fall for this kind of slapstick bit, will fallfor anything, but truth. Its like the magicians have hypnotised you with enchanting words of Bibbidy babbady boo.
 
 
 

@Lady




Do you practice what you preach at all? If I reply to your post you would be saying another thing but here you are posting without first reading through what you are sending. Maybe you and your folks should let us dig deep into the history of christianity and maybe by the time we are through, you would realise the truth provided you are ready to do away with your pride, arrogance and embrace the truth. I am very sure that by the time we shed light on the origin of christianity, you and 4him will disagree, you being a catholic and him being a protestant.

Good way to dribble around the facts, struggling desperately to fit them into your false narrative.
Dear, while Italian is the closest of the Roman languages to Latin it is CERTAINLY NOT a derivative of latin. As both are clearly distinguishable.
Italian as a language was first formalized in the 14th century (these facts are widely available) . . . it is impossible that Barnabas would have written his gospel in a language that would take another 1300yrs before it became officially recognized as a written language.

Barnabas was a jew who was born in Cyprus . . . does it make sense that he would write his gospel in an entirely foreign language when everyone else around him wrote in aramaic, hebrew and greek?

Let us even assume that barnabas wrote in latin, why would this be confused for italian?


You're pulling the wool over your own eyes:
Yes the Romans were ruling at that period but NO other gospels, history books (Josephus), or apostolic letters were written in latin. Greek, hebrew and aramaic where the accepted forms of communication among the jews and gentiles.

There was nothing like Italiano in the 1st century, you can't just smuggle in facts as you wish.


This is even more absurd, how does Spain suddenly come into the picture? Does it make sense that out of 2 languages available to Barnabas, he chose 2 completely non-existent languages to write his gospel? Who was going to understand the gospel? The jews who had no idea where Spain was?

Latin Americans speak Spanish because they were once colonies of Spain (just as we speak English as former colonies of England), unless you can give us concrete evidence that the jews were colonised by Spain during the time of Jesus all you have above is more evidence that you are a man of dishonesty.


Too much twaddle. Where are the books, prophecies, histories of Hud, Saleh and Shuaib? Who are they? To whom did all'ah send them and where is there own gospel?


Yet again you scuttle back to the bible to borrow yet more "prophets"? Have you no shame?


All these phony "it is clear". What is clear? How did Abraham worship? Tell us with concrete proof.


See this hypocrite wonder where the books of John the Baptist is.
Where are the books of Hud, Saleh and Shuaib? Have you wondered about them just yet? While you are at it please bring out the books of Adam, Idris and Noah.



Oh thou foolish galatians. The bible as we have it today is a modern compilation made by man, just like Shakespeares works are now compiled into volumes for easier access. There are copies of manuscripts of the bible that are over 1000yrs old.

I have deliberatly chosen to avoid the rest of your psycho-babble . . . it has been the ploy of you bearers of falsehood to deliberately side track discussions you have no explanations to by talking about completely unrelated stuff.

Can you please stay on track?