The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel)

Chapter 25  How one ought to despise the flesh, and how one ought to live in the world.

Then said he who writeth: 'O master, true are thy words and therefore have we forsaken all to follow thee.  Tell us, then how we ought to hate our flesh: for to kill oneself is not lawful, and living we needs must give it its livelihood.'

Jesus answered: 'Keep thy flesh like a horse, and thou shalt live securely.  For unto a horse food is given by measure, and labour without measure, and the bridle is put on him that he may walk at thy will, he is tied up that he may not annoy any one, he is kept in a poor place, and beaten when he is not obedient: so do thou, then, O Barnabas, and thou shalt live always with God.

'And be not offended at my words, for David the prophet did the same thing, as he confesseth , saying: "I am as an horse before thee: and am always by thee."

'Now tell me, whether is poorer he who is content with little, or he who desireth much?   Verily I say unto you, that if the world had but a sound mind no one would amass anything for himself, but all would be in common.  But in this is known its madness, that the more it amasseth the more it desireth,  And much as it amasseth, for the fleshly repose of others doth it amass the same. Therefore let one single robe suffice for you, cast away your purse, carry no wallet, no sandals on your feet; and do not think, saying: "What shall happen to us ?" but have thought to do the will of God, and he will provide for your need, insomuch that nothing shall be lacking unto you.

'Verily I say unto you. that the amassing much in this life giveth sure witness of not having anything to receive in the other.  For he that hath Jerusalem for his native country buildeth not houses in Samaria, for that there is enmity between there cities. Understand ye?'

'Yea, answered the disciples.

Chapter 26   How one ought to love God.  And in this chapter is contained the wonderful contention of Abraham with his father.

Then Jesus said: "There was a man on a journey who, as he was walking, discovered a treasure in a field that was to be sold for five pieces of money. Straightway the man, when he knew this, sold his cloak to buy that field. Is that credible?" The disciples answered: "He who would not believe this is mad."

Thereupon Jesus said: "You will be mad if you do not give your senses to God to buy your soul in which resides the treasure of love; for love is an incomparable treasure. For he that loves God has God for his own; and whoever has God has everything." Peter answered: "O master, how can one love God with true love? Tell us."

Jesus replied: "Truly I say to you that he who shall not hate his father and his mother, and his own life, and children and wife for love of God, such is not worthy to be loved of God." Peter answered: "O master, it is written in the Law of God in the Book of Moses: Honour your father, that you may live long upon the earth. And further he says: Cursed be the son that obeys not his father and his mother" God commanded that such a disobedient son should be stoned by the wrath of the people before the gate of the city. [Why] do you bid us to hate father and mother?"

Jesus replied: "Every word of mine is true, because it is not mine, but God's, who has sent me to the House of Israel. Therefore I say to you that all that which you possess God has bestowed it upon you: and so, what is more precious, the gift or the giver? When your father and your mother with every other thing is a stumbling block to you in the service of God, abandon them as enemies. Did not God say to Abraham: Go forth from the house of your father and of your kindred, and come to dwell in the land which I will give to you and to your seed? Why did God say this, except that the father of Abraham was an image-maker, who made and worshipped false gods? [For this reason] there was enmity between them, such that the father wished to burn his son." Peter answered: "Your words are true. I pray you tell us how Abraham mocked his father."

Jesus replied: "Abraham was seven years old when he began to seek God. So one day he said to his father: 'Father, what made man?' The foolish father answered: 'Man [made man]; for I made you, and my father made me.' Abraham answered: 'Father, it is not so; for I have heard an old man weeping and saying: 'O my God, why have you not given me children?'' His father replied: 'It is true, my son, that God helps man to make man, but he does not put his hands to [the task]; it is only necessary that man come to pray to his God and to give him lambs and sheep, and his God will help him.' Abraham answered: 'How many gods are there, father?' The old man replied: 'They are infinite in number, my son.'

Then Abraham said: 'O father, what shall I do if I serve one god and another [god] wishes me evil because I do not serve him? In any case discord will come between them, and so war will arise among the gods. And if, perhaps, the god that wills me evil shall slay my own god, what shall I do? It is certain that he will slay me also. The old man, laughing, answered: "O son, have no fear, for no god makes war upon another god; no, in the great temple there are a thousand gods with the great god Baal; and I am now near seventy years old, and yet never have I seen that one god has smitten another god. And assuredly all men do not serve one god, but one man one, and another."

Abraham answered: "So, then, they have peace among themselves?" His father said: "They have." Then said Abraham: "O father, what be the gods like?" The old man answered: "Fool, every day I make a god, which I sell to others to buy bread, and you know not what the gods are like!" And then at that moment he was making an idol. "This," said he, "is of palm wood, that one is of olive, that little one is of ivory: see how fine it is! Does it not seem as though it were alive? Assuredly, it lacks but breath!"

Abraham answered: "And so, father, the gods are without breath? Then how do they give breath? And being without life, how give they life? It is certain, father, that these are not God." The old man was wroth at these words, saying: "If you were of age to understand, I would break your head with this axe: But hold your peace, because you have not understanding!" Abraham answered: "Father, if the gods help to make man, how can it be that man should make the gods? And if the gods are made of wood, it is a great sin to burn wood. But tell me, father, how is it that, when you have made so many gods, the gods have not helped you to make so many other children that you should become the most powerful man in the world?"

The father was beside himself, hearing his son speak so; the son went on: "Father, was the world for some time without men?" Yes," answered the old man, "and why?" "Because," said Abraham, "I should like to know who made the first God." "Now go out of my house!" said the old man, "and leave me to make this god quickly, and speak no words to me; for, when you are hungry you desire bread and not words." Abraham said: "A fine god, truly, that you cut him as you will, and he defends not himself!" Then the old man was angry, and said: "All the world says that it is a god, and you, mad fellow, say that it is not. By my gods, if you were a man I could kill you!" And having said this, he gave blows and kicks to Abraham, and chased him from the house."

4HIM

Ok here it is:
Let us get some example in the Bible about Jesus preaching having found this brief information LET EXAMINE THIS VERSES.

"And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, . . ." (Matthew 9:35)

"Now after John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, . . ." (Mark 1:14)

"And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, . . ." (Luke 20:1)
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WHICH of the GOSPEL WAS JESUS Preached? Mathew, mark, Luke. or John


You always mocking in this forum about the Gospel of Barnabas can you show us the Gospel of Jesus so that we can compare and come out to the conclusion of this topic.



Roman historian Tacitus wrote that many of his time believed that the Jews "were a race of Ethiopian origin."
 The Bible classifies the Ethiopians & Jews together, "Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the Lord." (Amos 9:7)
That the Jews got their language, religion & culture from the Canaanites & Sumerians through Babylon, is well documented by historians.
 Tell me which of the prophets of the Canaanites and Sumerians recorded in the Jewish books as you pointed out that all prophet are descendant of Isaac and Jacob consider as Jews.
It is incorrect to refer to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as Jews. Because the terms “Jew” and Judaism” were not used generally to refer to this Nation until hundreds of year after their time. To make the story short,  we came out the Children of Israel/Jacob. As centuries passed by , the descendants of Israel/Jacob became slaves in Egypt. They suffered greatly under the hand of Later Pharaohs. But God brought the children of Israel/Jacob out of Egypt under the  leadership of Moses. God revealed the Torah to his people, both the written and oral Torah.
 When the Children of Israel was started to build as a Nation and declared themselves as Jewish people?

@Lady





I was like you before I got reverted to The Great Religion. There was nothing like christianity during Jesus' time and it was started by pagans and most of the doctrines have pagan origin. So if you are willing, I am ready to unveil some of what seem hidden to you as a christian. My quest for the truth made me familiar with some of the doctrines preached by some of the church.

You said that you engaged me in some threads but you and I never did that much and the only one I remembered vividly is the one you told me that it was you and Olabowale that were discussing bla bla bla.

Nothing hurts me. I was just trying to refer you to one of your posts towards me where you told me not to interfere in your discussion.

Lastly, if you really want to know the truth about christianity, then you have me beside you. Take it or leave, you would gain nothing by dying as a christian because Jesus was never one and never knew what christianity is all about.

http://www.answeringi'slam.org/Barnabas/saleeb.html

To Those who need to Know

How The Gospel of Barnabas Survived.

    The Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as a Canonical Gospel in the Churches of Alexandria till 325 C.E. Iranaeus (130-200) wrote in support of pure monotheism and opposed Paul for injecting into Christianity doctrines of the pagan Roman religion and Platonic philosophy.  He had quoted extensively from the Gospel of Barnabas in support of his views. This shows that the Gospel of Barnabas was in circulation in the first and second centuries of Christianity. 

    In 325 C.E., the Nicene Council was held, where it was ordered that all original Gospels in Hebrew script should be destroyed. An Edict was issued that any one in possession of these Gospels will be put to death.

     In 383 C.E., the Pope secured a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas and kept it in his private library.

    In the fourth year of Emperor Zeno (478 C.E. ), the remains of Barnabas were discovered and there was found on his breast a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas written by his own hand. (Acia Sanctorum Boland Junii Tom II, Pages 422 and 450. Antwerp 1698) . The famous Vulgate Bible appears to be based on this Gospel.


    Pope Sixtus (1585-90) had a friend, Fra Marino. He found the Gospel of Barnabas in the private library of the Pope. Fra  Marino was interested because he had read the writings of Iranaeus where Barnabas had been profusely quoted. The Italian manuscript passed through different hands till it reached "a person of great name and authority" in Amsterdam, "who during his life time was often heard to put a high value to this piece". After his death it came in the possession of J. E. Cramer, a Councillor of the King of Prussia. In 1713 Cramer presented this manuscript to the famous connoisseur of books, Prince Eugene of Savoy. In 1738 along with the library of the Prince it found its way into Hofbibliothek in Vienna. There it now rests.

     Toland, in his "Miscellaneous Works" (published posthumously in 1747), in Vol. I, page 380, mentions that the Gospel of Barnabas was still extant. In Chapter XV he refers to the Glasian Decree of 496 C.E. where "Evangelium Barnabe" is included in the list of forbidden books. Prior to that it had been forbidden by Pope Innocent in 465 C.E. and by the Decree of the Western Churches in 382 C.E.

    Barnabas is also mentioned in the Stichometry of Nicephorus Serial No. 3, Epistle of Barnabas . . . Lines 1, 300.
Then again in the list of Sixty Books
Serial No. 17. Travels and teaching of the Apostles.
Serial No. 18. Epistle of Barnabas.
Serial No. 24. Gospel According to Barnabas.
A Greek version of the Gospel of Barnabas is also found in a solitary fragment. The rest is burnt.

Is that the point. I thought you were all saying its forgery and was a 14th century book. Now that there is a prove,see how they dodge in style.

Chapter 28 Abraham Destroyeth The Idols 

When every one had departed from the temple, the priests closed the temple and went away. Then Abraham took the axe and cut off the feet of all the idols, except the great god Baal. At its feet he placed the axe, amid the ruins which the statues made, for they, through being old and composed of pieces, fell in pieces. Thereupon, Abraham, going forth from the temple, seen by certain men, who suspected him of having gone to thieve something from the temple. So they laid hold on him, and having arrived at the temple, when they saw their gods so broken in pieces, they cried out with lamentation: "Come quickly, O men, and let us slay him who has slain our gods!" There ran together there about ten thousand men, with the priests, and questioned Abraham of the reason why he had destroyed their gods.

Abraham answered: "You are foolish! Shall then a man slay God? It is the great God that has slain them. See you not that axe which he has near his feet? Certain it is that he desires no fellows." Then arrived there the father of Abraham, who, mindful of the many discourses of Abraham against their gods, and recognizing the axe wherewith Abraham had broken in pieces the idols, cried out: "It has been this traitor of a son of mine, who has slain our gods! for this axe is mine." And he recounted to them all that had passed between him and his son. Accordingly the men collected a great quantity of wood, and having bound Abraham's hands and feet put him upon the wood, and put fire underneath.

'Lo! God, through his angel, commanded the fire that it should not burn Abraham his servant. The fire blazed up with great fury, and burned about two thousand men of those who had condemned Abraham to death. Abraham truly found himself free, being carried by the angel of God near to the house of his father, without seeing who carried him; and thus Abraham escaped death."

We mock even as you mock. But at the end, you will know who speaks truth from falsehood. Stop worshipping Jesus but turn your face to Who created you- All'ah.

Surely He did but you deny Him. God said: O mankind, worship your Lord Who created you and those before you that ye may ward off evil. (Baqarah)
Another says: And to All'ah belong whatsoever in the heaven and the earth, He knows what ascendeth and descendeth, not an atom weight or less than that but it is in a clear record.


God said: They surely disbelieve who say: Jesus son of Mary is God. The Messiah was no one than a Messenger, Messengers like those who passed away before him. They both (Jesus&mary) used to eat earthly food and his mother a saintly woman. See how We show them Our signs, but see how they turn away!

Another says: If We were to destory Jesus and his mother, can anyone save them from Our grip?


The understanding you folk have is not the belief God wants you to have for Him, the earlier you repent and turn to Him the better.

I will be happy if you become a Mu'slim, I can even decide to marry you or your daughers.lol . But Islam never contradicts,except you don't understand the religion.


The Ko'ran clearly points that the covenant between Abraham and God was Ishmeal. They are lots of evidences from the Ko'ran. And the Gospel of barnabas points out Christ saying that the rabbis changed the context. As cliamed by God Himself in the Ko'ran.

Christ said they will try and kill him, God said he will protect him and the plots of the evil-doers will not be successful.(Both in the Ko'ran and this beautiful Gospel.

Someone is either ignorantly or DELIBERATELY trying to confuse the fraudulent "gospel of barnabas" with the ORIGINAL "epistle of Barnabas". I have pointed out on this thread with links that both are completely two different things. It is the Epistle of Barnabas that has preserved greek versions and not the gospel of barnabas as Frizy wilfully and dishonestly wants those who wont bother to do a thorough search to believe.

The EARLIEST versions of the gospel of barnabas are written in Italian . . . NOT GREEK.

i'd have been surprised if you had any. Any more falsehoods to plagiarise from your fraudulent mentors?

@~Lady~: Listen to the tone of the Qu.r'a.n about the Children of Israel.


The tone is past tense. They were bestowed a favor, a covenant under th bigger covenant which was earlier with Ibrahim. The favor and covenant with them had conditions for the fulfillment and the continuity. Read it again. And when Prophet Mu.ha.mmad came to th stage of prophethood, you will realize that he was honest to remind his "Cousins," the Jews thefavor of God on them in the time past.

Now that they are not exclusively the holder of the favor to propagate the Oneness of God to Mankind, they were yet, again required to come to the fold of the the new bringer of the good stewardship, under the New Leader, M.uh.ammad! They were still children of Ibrahim regardless of the power shift to the new leadership, who is a child of Ibrahim from a different branch!

The favor and covenant did not come excluding the original relationship with Ibrahim. Afterall, th sign of the covenant is circumcision of males. The sign does not neccesarily means that one fulfills the essense of the covenant. Even today they circumcise their males, yet even in the time of Jesus, they refused to accept him. Your point is not good enough.

Finally, when you quote the truth to justify a cnotinum of favor and covenant with the Israelite, you should read the Qu.r'a.n to see that God terminates the "ethnic" based favor, as Isl.a.m became a complete religion that is Universally commanded upon all, and th rejection of all other ways, religions, etc.


No m.u.slim ever said the covenant was with Ismail. God's covenant(s) is with Ibrahim. It cover his children; all of them the first and at some time the only child, even though he was from the second wife. It also covered the second child, even though he was from the older wife. It also covered other children from other wife or wives. A child never ceases to be the child of the father, even when he casually disowns him. The wife of the father or the other brothers are not in the position to dictate the bloodline of a child with his father. It just does not work that way.


I don't know what Jesus said, since we have conflicting statements from him ad those who put words in his mouth after he was raised up. You see that no one from the early christians said that Jesus told him to erase from the Bible that he was just a man, a prophet, a messiah to the house of Israel, only. If Jesus is more than what the M.us.lims said that he is, the proof of it would have been erase from the Bible, even before Muhamm.ad got the revelations.

It is not possible that Jesus would contradict himself: Saying one thing will alive and saying the other to human being afterwards from heaven. In heaven, where no one could see him. It will be hard press for anyone to believe that he now change his story. He had three years of gospel preaching of the kingdom of heaven to tell people about his true position. What he said then was the truth; The ones that contradict what was Paul and company's after thought.

So now you stylishly agree that Ibrahim as you call him got the covenant with the Jews? 

What happened to the story that Issac was the son of Hagar and Ishmael the legitimate child?

How come the Mus-lims have no accounts of the life of Moses, Noah, Abraham and co except from the historical records kept and maintained by the jews, only to have one Quaraish Mohammadu to come re-mix the entire story and put a 'mus-lim' spin on it?

@~Lady~
I thought the tone is pretty clear? God is reminding them that under the benefit of the Primary covenant with Ibrahim, they were favored. Now the covenant is still on going as the final leadership is now a new prophet, their cousin. They should come into the fold and enjoy the favor, instead of spiritually off the track. Afterall, God who took idolatry from Makka is merciful enough to still over all people, and especially the other branch of Ibrahim's bloodline to come back to the fold of mercy.

They should be the ones who should be the first on the lead that lead to the worldwide means of mercy, under the leadership of M.u.hammad.


The biggest of favors is I.sl.am. Others may include the relative ease that wealth comes to them. Let me amuse you; The Jews of the world always say about the journey of Prophet Moses, that if only he has traveled a little further east or so, he ould have brought them to the lands under the arabs now. A land rich with Oil that the whole world can do without. Don't take my world for it, ask an American Jew. That should be easy for you.

The door of Is.l.am, a meabns of Mercy from God is wide open.


All you put up is very interesting. Moses, with all the wonderful works through him, he never claimed that he was the one working the process. He did not arrive to them as a liberator on Chariot either, rather as a refugee. And finally, i understand Jesus. But not the way that you understand him. And Arabs, never at one time never stop the rite of male circumcision. All m.u.sl.im born are circumcised.Its interesting that you forgot, unless that younever read it that Ismail was circumcised along with his father, Ibrahim. And all of this was before Isiaq was ever born. I guess we know who the sign of the covenant was and who the only son could ever be applied to.

You should know as a first child. Can any of your younger siblings be called the only child?


Never have I said that the arabs are exclusive on the covenant, against the other branches of the Children of Ibrahim. Rather, it is the Jews and the Christians who excluded the Arabs and called "Innocent Ismail, eben from Childhood," wild! A demeaning word or expresasion upon a little child of a beloved prophet who never stopped loving him.

My dear, the story is more than the esoteric application that we are giving it, as a gloss over on Nairaland. How can the son of a wonderful prophet like Ibrahim be wild ass? Can you tell us if this child ever recorded to have done any evil? If you can not, then think whether the prophesy of such a horrible name like that fits him and very importantly was never fulfilled on him. That shows that there are prophesies that are wrong or miss the mark, in the Bible. Afterall, Ismail (as) is dead!
 
 
  
@debosky (m)
In the words of illustrous Ijebu Ode son, David, I will like to ask you what is it that you are talking about? You are completely off course, and what you are saying is not in line with anything any M.us.lim have said here, or ever believed.