The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel)

LIFE OF BARNABAS

Barnabas was a Jew born in Cyrus. His name was Joses, and due to his devotion to the cause of Jesus, the other apostles had given him the surname of Barnabas; this term is variously translated as "Son of Consolation" or "Son of Exhortation".
    He was a successful preacher with a magnetic personality. Any one tormented by the clash of creeds found solace and peace in his company. His eminence as a man who had been close to Jesus had made him a prominent member of the small group of disciples in Jerusalem who had gathered together after the disappearance of Jesus. They observed the Law of the Prophets, which Jesus had come, "not to destroy but, to fulfil" (Matthew 5:17). They continued to live as Jews and practiced what Jesus had taught them. That Christianity could ever be regarded as a new religion did not occur to any of them. They were devout and practicing Jews distinguished from their neighbours only by their faith in the message of Jesus.
    In the beginning they did not organise themselves as a separate sect and did not have a synagogue of their own. There was nothing in the message of Jesus, as understood by them, to necessitate a break with Judaism. However, they incurred the enmity of the vested interests among the Jewish higher echelon. The conflict between the Jews and the followers of Jesus was started by the Jews because they felt that the Christians would undermine their authority.


ACTS 12: 25
"And Barnabas and Saul returned from Jerusalem, when
they had fulfilled their ministry, and took with them John,
whose surname was Mark."

ACTS 13: 1 and 2
"Now there was in the church that was at Antioch certain
prophets and teachers, as Barnabas, and Simeon, that was
called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had
been brought up with Herod the tetrach, and Saul.
"As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy
Ghost said: Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work
whereunto I have called them.

ACTS 14:11 to 15
"And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted
up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia. The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.
"And they called Barnabas Jupiter, and Paul Mercurius.
"Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city,
brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have
done sacrifice with the people.

"Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of,
they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out.

"And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are
men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye
should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which
made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are
thereon."

    The gulf progressively began to widen. During the siege of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., the Christians left the city; and refused to take part in the Bar Coachaba rebellion in 132 A.D. These two events brought to the surface the difference between the Christians and the Jews.

    The question of the origin of Jesus, his nature and relation to God, which later became so important, was not raised among these early disciples. That Jesus was a man super-naturally endowed by God was accepted without question. Nothing in the words of Jesus or the events in his life led them
to modify this view. According to Aristides, one of the earliest apologists, the worship of the early Christians was more purely monotheistic even than of the Jews.

    With the conversion of Paul a new period opened in Christian Theology. Paul's theology was based on his personalexperience interpreted in the light of contemporary Greek thought. The theory of redemption was the child of his brain, a belief entirely unknown to the disciples of Jesus. Paul's theory involved the deification of Jesus.

    The Pauline period in the history of the Christian Church saw a change of scene and principles. In place of the disciples, who had sat at the feet of Jesus, a new figure, who had not known Jesus, had come to the forefront. In place of Palestine, the Roman Empire became the scene of Christian activity. Instead of being a mere sect of Judaism, Christianity not only became independent of Judaism but also became independent of Jesus himself.

    Paul was a Jewish inhabitant of Tarsus. He had spent a long time in Rome and was a Roman citizen. He realised the strong hold which the Roman religion had on the masses. The intellectuals were under the influence of Plato and Aristotle. Paul seems to have felt that it would not be possible to convert the masses in the Roman Empire without making mutual adjustments. But his practical wisdom was not acceptable to those who had seen and heard Jesus. However, in spite of their difference, they decided to work together for the common cause.

As recorded in the Acts, Barnabas represented those who had become personal disciples of Jesus, and Paul co-operated with them for some time. But finally they fell out. Paul wanted to give up the Commandments given through Moses about things to eat; he wanted to give up the Commandment given through Abraham regarding circumcision. Barnabas and the other personal disciples disagreed. The following sentences in the Acts give a hint of the rift:

"And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, "Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved."
"When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputations with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question" (Acts 14:1 and 2).

    After this rift, there was a parting of the ways. In the Acts, Barnabas disappears after the rift, because the recording of the acts of the Apostles was done by the followers of Paul. Because of Paul's compromise with Roman beliefs and legends, Pauline Christians grew in number and grew in
strength. A stage was later reached when kings were used as pawns to further the ends of the Church.

The followers of Barnabas never developed a central organization. Yet due to the devotion of their leaders their number increased very fast. These Christians incurred the wrath of the Church and systematic effort was made to destroy them and to obliterate all traces of their existence including books and churches. The lesson of history, however, is that it is very difficult to destroy faith by force. Their lack of organization became a source of strength because it was not so easy to pick them up one by one.

    Modern research has brought to light odd facts about these Christians. They are like the crests of waves and looking at them one can visualise a whole body of ocean not yet visible.

We notice that up to the 4th century A.D. there existed a sect known as Hypisistarians who refused to worship God as father. They revered Him as an All Mighty Ruler of the world, He was the Highest of all and no one was equal to Him. Paul of Samasata was a Bishop of Antioch. He was of the view that Christ was not God but a man and a prophet. He differed only in degree from prophets who came before him and that God could not have become man substantially.

Then we come across another Bishop of Antioch viz Lucian. As a Bishop his reputation for sanctity was not less than his fame as a scholar. He came down strongly against the belief of Trinity. He deleted all mention of Trinity from the Bible as he believed it to be a later interpolation not found in the earlier Gospels. He was martyred in 312 A.D.

Next we come to the famous disciple of Lucian viz Arius (250-336 A.D.) He was a Libyan by birth. Peter Bishop of Alexandria ordained him a Deacon but later excommunicated him. Achilles the successor of Peter again ordained Arius as priest. Alexander the next Bishop of Alexandria once again excommunicated him. Arius however had gathered such a large following that he became a headache for the Church. If kept out of Church he could be a great danger to her but he could not be accommodated within the Church as he wanted to establish the unity and simplicity of the Eternal God. He believed that how so ever much Christ may surpass other created beings he himself was not of the same substance as God. He was as human being as any other man. The teaching of Arius spread like wild fire and shook the very foundation of the Pauline Church. The controversy that was simmering for three hundred years suddenly became a conflagration. No man dared to oppose the organized Church but Arius did,and remained a headache for her whether he was ordained a priest or was excommunicated. During this time two events changed the history of Europe.

Emperor Constantine brought a greater part of Europe under his rule and secondly he began to support the Christians without accepting Christianity. To the soldier prince the different creeds within the Christian faith were very confusing. In the Imperial Palace itself the controve sy was raging not less fiercely. It appears that perhaps the Queen Mother was inclined towards Pauline Christianity while his sister Princess Constantina was a disciple of Arius. The Emperor was wavering between the two faiths. As an administrator he was interested only in uniting all the Christians within one Church.

It was at this time that the conflict between Arius and Bishop Alexander became so widespread and so violent that it became a law and order problem. So the Emperor anxious to maintain peace in the newly unified Europe had to intervene.

    In 325 A.D. a meeting of all denominations of Christianity was called at Nicea (Now Isnik, a village). Bishop Alexander was not able to attend the conference and he deputed his lieutenant Athanasius, who subsequently succeeded Alexander as Bishop of Alexandria.

    The conference had many prolonged sessions. Emperor Constantine could not grasp the full implications of the ecclesiastical confrontation, but he was very clear in his mind that for maintaining peace in his realm the support and cooperation of the Church was necessary. Accordingly he threw his weight behind Athanasius and banished Arius from the realm. Thus the belief of Trinity became the official religion of the empire. Fearful massacre of Christians who did not believe in Trinity followed. It became a penal offense to possess a Bible not authorized by the Church and according to some estimates as many as 270 different versions of the Bible were burnt. Princess Constantina was not happy at the turn of events. The Emperor ultimately was persuaded to accept the faith of the men he killed. The result was that Arius was called back in 346. The day Arius was scheduled to visit the Cathedral of Constantinople in triumph, he died suddenly. The Church called it a miracle. The Emperor knew it was a murder. He banished Athanasius and two other Bishops. The Emperor then formally accepted Christianity and was baptized by an Arian Bishop. Thus Monotheism became the official religion. Constantine died in 337. The next Emperor Constantanius also accepted the faith of Arius. In 341 a conference was held in Antioch and Monotheism was accepted as a correct interpretation of Christian faith. This view was confirmed by another Council held in Sirmium in 351. As a result Arianism was accepted by an overwhelming majority of Christians. St. Jerome wrote in 359 that 'the whole world groaned and marvelled to find itself Arian'.

    In this context the next important figure is that of Pope Honorius. A contemporary of Prophet The Great Prophet (peace be on him) he saw the rising tide of The Great Religion whose tenets very much r esembled those of Arius. As the mutual killings of Christians was still fresh in his memory he perhaps thought of finding a via media between The Great Religion and Christianity. In his letters he began to support the doctrine of 'one mind', because if God has three independent minds the result would be chaos. The logical conclusion pointed to the belief in the existence of one God. This doctrine was not officially challenged for about half a century. Pope Honorius died in October 638. In 680, i.e. 42 years after his death, a council was held in Constantinople where Pope Honorius was anathematized. This event is unique in the history of Papacy when a Pope was denounced by a succeeding Pope and the Church.

    The next two personalities of this faith that deserve mention were members of the same family. L. F. M. Sozzini (1525-1565) was native of Siena. In 1547 he came under the influence of Camillo a Sicilian mystic. His fame spread in Switzerland He challenged Calvin on the doctrine of Trinity. He amplified
the doctrine of Arius,  denied the divinity of Christ and repudiated the doctrine of original sin and atonement. The object of adoration according to him could only be the one and only one God.  He was followed by his nephew F. P. Sozzini (1539-1604). In 1562 he published a work on St. John's Gospel
denying the divinity of Jesus. In 1578 he went to Klausonburg in Transylvania whose ruler John Sigisumud was against the doctrine of Trinity. Here Bishop Francis David (1510-1579) was fiercely anti-Trinitarian. This led to the formation of a sect known as Racovian Catechism. It derives its name from
Racow in Poland. This city became the stronghold of the faith of Arius.

Among the present-day Christians a large number of men and women still believe in one God. They are not always vocal. Due to the crushing power of the Churches they cannot express themselves and there is not much communication between them.

    In the end it will be of interest to quote Athanasius the champion of Trinity. He says that whenever he forced his understanding to meditate on the divinity of Jesus his toilsome and unavailing efforts recoil on themselves, that the more he wrote the less capable was he of expressing his thoughts. At another place he pronounces his creed as:-
There are not three but "ONE GOD".


@Lady I hope you'll take your time to read this meaningful piece of information

Dear Mus'lims: This is another prove that explains what All'ah said concerning some people of the Scripture who are moderate and worship one God and even bow down unto Him in the watches of the night. Only All'ah knows them and I guess they are all extinct now.

@Olabowale

I feel your testimony. You know my mum is also Christian, whenever I listen to the Ko'ran or read it and I hear what All'ah promised those who don't believe in Him, I remember her. O my poor mother, I pray she becomes a convert because she is so nice and caring.
Please pray for her o. babs,samba and all my Mus'lim brothers.

@~Lady~

They did not have a singular belief about Jesus relationship with God. Please understand that even today, there are Christian sects (call them what you want), who believe differently from you. The jehovah witness is a good example. If there is a remnant of different beliefs today, just imagine the gulf that existed in the earlier years. The only time that you truly had a singular belief about jesus was during the lifetime of jesus and the immediate years after he was lifted up to heavens. But definitely before Saul serendipity, which brought him to be renamed Paul. I guess from his killing of Abraham's circumcision rites and the eradication of Moses dietary laws and the introduction of Trinity as a concept, you can not have a single belief, but truly many beliefs were in the play.




God wasn't the Author. You know it, but refuse to accept it. If God is the Author, would anyone have the right to even repalce a single letter from its place? Don't you see that in your today's Bible that there are no two "Versions," exactly alike? Please compare the catholic Douwy version with a King James Version of your choice.

While you have the writings of Paul, in the Bible (New Testament; the Old testament should be left until a Jew appears on Nairaland. But of course I do speak with many about their convolutions of religiousity. Mixing Judaism with Kabala and Buhddism. This is just an example), his letters could never be more that his opinions. These letters can never pass, word for word as Word of God. But unfortunately, the disciples of Jesus were 12. If we eliminate Judas iscariot, because of his death, we will still have 11 disciples. Where therefore are the remaining 7 Gospels?

But it is strange that each of the 4 Gospels in the Bible is accompanied by the "according to" phrasiology. I am sure that if I wrote a letter or anything, it will not be titled as according to Olabowale, but by Olabowale. But I even have a last name and my surname will be prominent in my writing, as an identifiable author. The term 'according to,' before each of the Gospeller's name is a dead giveaway that the named authors were not truly the authors, but some other person(s) was. But the Gospels were not even all alike, in the information that they provide in many events. Some may have a particular even, while another does not. I wander how they selected 4 from 11. Certainly, these 4 "according to," would not be the only disciples who took accounts of events, regardless of their inconsistencies with one anothe in many respects? What qualifies one disciple while the other did not have a chance? This very choice of one Gospel over the other which is disqualified is a testimony to the effect of man's desire play judge and jury.

It goes to the verse in the AlQur'an which talks about corruptions and man changing the words from its proper places, in the Bible.




You do know that Is.lam is not shy about the corruptions of the Jews? The AlQur'an is very clear about it. The jews shy away from dialoguing with mu.slims. I know. I have many of them as acquitances. When you bring up a Jew or jews on Nairaland, watch how he/they will be engaged in matters of the Torah. Thankfully, they do not believe in the New Testament!

You will agree with me that Zachariah and his son John were both prophets. You will also agree with us that John is the one, according to the Bible who Baptized (Barmitva; a Jewish coming of age, normally done at age 13) Jesus. Jesus is also regarded in the Bible as a Prophet. Please tell me the part of the Bible that each of these people wrote?

Unfortunately, there are portions of the Bible that Paul wrote. It is very clear from your writing that you do not believe that there should be any prophet after jesus, at least among the children of Israel. Therefore, Paul could never be a prophet. But wait, was he an eyewitness? No. He never witnessed anything fromJesus, otherwise he would not be opposing Jesus followers in the first place before his transformation on the way to Syria. So Paul was not a prophet and was not an eyewitness, but his writing was prominent in the Bible. (Somebody provided a writing from Paul sometimes, which was giving us the impression that Paul was simply expressing his own opinion. We can not call that "inspiration from God," can we?).

And a brother, Samba, spoke about immorality and punishment or justice protocol of it, you are asking him to demostrate it; It is you who should call him on what moral compass Christianity has. How do you deal with fornication or adultery? Forget whether punishment deters would be perpetrator to do it or not. But at least it prevents some who may think that they would have engaged in it, if there was no warning and punishment against it.

While here in America, the home owners put a sign of home protections company on their properties, it still does not stop some criminals from coming in to investigate. But at least a home with a sign will discourage a few would be criminals, while that without any sign may not discourage as many. It is true that the Bible does not encourage illigal sexual relationship, but it does not have a punishment for it now. A toothless dog can not do but to bark. It can not bite. At least the Musli.ms have a law in the book and there is a prescribed punishment which is just that must be carried out after a protocol of facts have been established.

And believe me, there are people who are not believers in God who are not engaged in some immoralities.

You also challenged this brother to provide you with a roman or jewish writer of Jesus time who wrote about Jesus. It is you who should provide him with list of them and excerpts from their writings. At least one, will be sufficient to quell his accersion. By him throwing down the gauntlet, it is you who needs to walk it. He said there is none. Thats a proof all by itself. You have to produce one or list of them, otherwise he is correct.





Tell us the name of the church started by Jesus? What deno ination? Which buiding in Jerusalem, galille, Naseren served as the first church, in the time that Jesus was on earth? What you just said is that Jesus had a diffrenet religion than Moses, since Moses did not practice Christianity? There are many words and ideas put in the mouth of jesus. Church is definitely one of them. Make your research and let us know.





You are being personal here. There is no reason to encourage anyone to do evil on his/her person. i am very confident that all the four gospels do not agree with each other on every matter. Some matters are contained in some Gospel which is missing in another. That is not exactly what we call agreement. Agreement means word for word.





But the Jews, since you mentioned them, do not believe in Jesus. That alone throws away your statement. The Jews should be the one who should know jesus the most. Afterall, he was from their bloodline, being called son of David ( honoring him, just the same way his mother Mary was honored by being called sister of Aaron. See what am saying sister Sheniqua?). They did not think of him more than a rabbi ( a leaned person of Judaism), or, a prophet like all othe prophets, but never higher in stature than or as Moses. Just being a word of god means he was a command of god. i am also a command of god. if god did not command the coming of me as a human being, it would have been just another sexual encounter between a husband and wife. Afterall, House of god does not mean God has a bedroom in it. It is a matter of honoring. God did not lose His voice and was unable to speak just because was His word. It merely means Jesus was a command from Him/a sign of His power.


@ Frizy: I ask All.ah Ta'ala to soften her heart so that she receives Iddayah. The biggest fear for me was that my mother will end up in opposite camp from me and my siblings and my father. But what I did was to continue to prostrate my face to Almighty begging Him to have mercy on her. I was worried for her and only few of my friends knew this secret. It was almost impossible that a Christian woman can have me as a son. All.ah who willed my mother to accepting I.slam, shall will your mother and all who have good hearts and those who are loved by their M.uslim family members to accept Is.lam. I pray that those who apostated, for whatever reason, to come back to the fold of Is.lam and be favored by the One who can favor.


But God is Powerful. He will from His mercy, because of your love and concern for her, turn her heart to a heart that receives guidance. Please make night prayers, alot. Never overwhelm her, but do not hesitate to talk to her about Isl.am. InshaAll.ah, she will accept Is.lam. You can see that we have a lot of responsibilities within our own family, our community and our nation and of course the rest of the world.

Oh Mus.lims, listen to the call of your brother, come to his aid and pray to God to have mercy on his mother and the parents and siblings and all the loved ones of m.uslims the world over. Is.lam is a strange thing today. Hold on to it with both hands. God is always on your side, if you practice justice.

@~Lady~;

I think you need to reread the Bible; Below are excerpts on that very idea of "another comforter." All I did was do a simply google search; Jesus promised another comforter. And there came a tons of information. Please read; but pay attention that I see the writer making suggestions that he can not substantiate. Are these not changing the exact intents of Jesus, who made a very straight for ward statement?

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John 14:16-18 - Holy Spirit of Christ -Another Comforter

Jesus was the WITH-dwelling Holy Spirit. After Pentecost He would be the IN-dwelling Holy Spirit. The word "another" is from words meaning "more of the same" not "different." In both cases this is Lord Jesus Christ. Classical trinitarianism saw God manifest in three natures as His creature, mankind, is manifested physically as body, soul and spirit. Neo-trinitarianism, a liberal nineteenth century invention, holds that God is really three person-like beings who are one only because they are made of the same God stuff.

An Intercessor or Mediator comforts by bringing the one in need to the One who can supply that need. As our flesh with its senses is the mediator or intercessor between the visible world and our invisible spirit, God Himself became flesh to become the Mediator between Flesh and Spirit. Only One who had been both flesh and Spirit would qualify.

And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 2 Corinthians 5:18

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 2 Corinthians 5:19

Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christs stead, be ye reconciled to God. 2 Corinthians 5:20

Another Comforting Holy Spirit was Christ in Spirit

Jesus was both Father and Son among His disciples as He led them to "build a family name."

That is, His outward body reflected His inward, invisible Mind or Spirit.

When He returned to His glory, the Apostles would feel destitute or like orphans who had lost their father.

Jesus promised that He would not leave permanently but would be with and in them as Spirit of Truth or Mind.

If He did not return as full Deity the apostles would be orphans or fatherless because the Holy Spirit has never been illustrated as Father. Jesus told the worried apostles:

If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15  {Was this not the same position that all prophets held?}

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter [parakletos], that he may abide with you for ever; John 14:16 {Note that another was a qualifier for Comforter here. Jesus disciples did not need any explanation of "another comforter," since they knew what a former comforter is, which automatically gave insight to what the future "another comforter, " was going to be. Only a prophet, in this case Jesus was qualified as the former. hence another, a future comforter can not be anything else.}

Even the Spirit OF truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. John 14:17 {See how all of a sudden the deviations entered into the discuss?}

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. John 14:18 {Pattern of deceit by sutle suggestions. Thanks to the Bible writers for this type of mind game!}

Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. John 14:19 {How is this not confusing?}

At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. John 14:20 {You see how the deceit progressed to something that isdiffrent from what jesus meant?If just by the father being in Jesus, Jesus became the father, then by the same proxy, you Christians, or rather the didciples who Jesus addressed, will be Jesus first, and then God, since Jesus was in them! Everyone is therefore God. Is there a need for judgement day? Is there a need for death, since God can not die?}

He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. John 14:21 {But above, by insinuation, one can see how people progressed to be God. Now people are back to being just loved by Father? And i bet there is a verse in the New Testament, where Jesus is referred as master of men and a servant of God! This portion was dealing with slave and master relationship. Check it out yourself}

Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? John 14:22 {This verse clearly made it a point to let us know that Iscariot was not the questioner. It is insinuating in my opinion that this portion was not penned during the earthly life of jesus. it must be sometimes after he was lifted up to heavens.}

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me,
, he will keep my words: and
, my Father will love him, and
, we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. John 14:23

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Fathers which sent me. John 14:24 {Read this verse again. It simply shows that God is the Sender of Jesus, who is a messenger. Between falacy and deceit, there remain some truth. How is it possible that a messenger all of a sudden becomes the Sender, when the messenger says that the sender is different from him? These are confusing and very convoluting premises}

These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. John 14:25

But the Comforter [parakletos], which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:26 {What did the holy ghost teach you? Tell me how it teaches you to take a shower, say after sexual intercourse? Tell me what it teaches you about deficating? Tell me what it teaches you about how to sleep, laying down? I want to know. Then I will tell you what Mu.hammad teaches about any and all subject you can imagine. If i don't know it, somebody here will tell you. Now you will know who the real "another Comforter,"is. You will know what jesus meant by "Comforters" since there were more than One.}

Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. John 14:27

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you, If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. John 14:28 {Read this very carefully; God is greater than Jesus; Do you see how this verse destroys the idea of 3 in !, Trinity? They are not equal or co-equal. This is enough proof for the Oneness of God. It is a proof for Jesus being a human messenger, since he is not equal to God!}

MY little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate [parakletos] with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1Jn.2:1 {See where he called grown men "little Children?" Could you believe anything that was said, again? If he used Father for God, would that really translate as his father, since "my little Children" would not mean that he was the father and that the people were all alot younger than him? Would it not be a metaphor for spirituality, whereby as a prophet, he was more advanced than his companions. Then God his Master and decision Maker?}

REPEAT
 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. John 14:18
 
REPEAT
 But the Comforter [parakletos], which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name,
 
REPEAT
 MY little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate [parakletos] with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1Jn.2:1
 
REPEAT
 [A LIGH appeared] And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. Ac.22:8
 


THE COMFORTER IS:

Parakletos (g3875) par-ak'-lay-tos; an intercessor, consoler: - advocate, comforter.

The Comforter would bear the name JESUS CHRIST:

Jn.14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

FATHER-SON WOULD SEND THE SPIRIT:

Jn.16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

THEREFORE, HIS NAME IS JESUS CHRIST:

1Jn.2:1 MY little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, An Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon

Allos

I. Some other. II Repeated. allos kai allos, one or two; allo kai allo one thing after another

II. rarely like alloios, of other sort, different, Il.: hence

Does NOT mean alloios [allos] I. of another sort or kind, different

Similar words

eita used to denote the Sequence of one act or state upon another

I. of Sequence in time, without any notion of Cause, then, next

epischerô , Ep. Adv., ( [scheros] ) in a row, one after another

II. of Time, tris e. thrice successively, by degrees

loipos remaining over,

homos [akin to hama] one and the same, common, joint, Lat. communis, Hom., Hes.; homa phronein to be of one mind, Hes.

hama [Cf. homou, Lat. simul.]

I. at once, at the same time, Hom., etc.

II. prep. c. that. at the same time with, together with

Jesus very clearly said that the another Comforter would be pure or Holy Spirit. However, He said that this was the same Spirit Who presently dwelled with the apostles in the form of flesh. After Pentecost, this "another" in a different form would dwell in them. From Paul we understand that He would live in the heart, spirit or mind of believers through the Word. Let's look at that again:

Christ as God left His Majesty to dwell in a human body.

Therefore, Christ as Spirit Sent Himself to be flesh.

The Father would send another Comforter Who could remain. The word is not heteros but homos: a fuller Spirit Christ.

This was the Spirit of Truth or Truth in Spirit form.

This Spirit of Truth dwelled with the apostles even as Jesus spoke.

This Spirit of Truth would dwell within the Apostles after Pentecost.

Jesus would not personally leave them orphans or without a Comforter

Then He said, "I will come to you."

The Spirit as both Father and Son would live in those who kept His commandments.

Another Husband of the Church was Christ as Holy Spirit

Paul confirms that the another would be heteros or different yet the same Spirit being. For instance, the death of Christ meant that the old marriage contract with the Law was dead. We simply die to the old, destructive "marriage." Then we are married to another Who will be Spirit instead of the first which was flesh or law. Let us look at that again:

Jesus was the present Spirit of Truth, Father or Comforter in the flesh.
As Father-Son in Spirit form He would be Another Comforter.

Paul shows how this works:

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another (heteros), even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. Romans 7:4

For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit (as "children") unto death. Romans 7:5

The another and different was the same Jesus Christ Who had been raised from the dead by the Spirit which dwelled in Him. He was certainly different in the sense that He was the first born from the dead never to die again. He was another in the sense that He returned to the Spirit dimension.

If we are married to the Christ "person" and have fruit by the Holy Spirit "Person" as a separate "relative of the God family" (Boles) we wonder if we are a polygamists. The fruit of the Spirit (Comforter or father so they won't be orphans) is the fruits by Jesus Christ.

being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God. Philippians 1:11

After His resurrection, Christ appeared in another form but He was still Jesus Christ with the nail prints in His hands:

And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. Mark 16:11

After that he appeared in another (altered) form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country. Mark 16:12

Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. Mark 16:14

The Another or Different Comforter was Christ

The two words for another have much the same meaning. As another Comforter Jesus would be in Spirit form. This would be different because it would be as a fuller, but invisible, Intercessor. As another husband the Jews would be "married" to the resurrected Christ. As we noted, the fruit of the Spirit would be the fruit by the Husband-Father Jesus Christ. Look at the two proofs that the another Comforter is the another husband:

Jesus said that He would come as the another Comforter or in a different form. It would be more of the same thing:

Allos (g243) al'-los; a prim. word; "else," i.e. different (in many applications): - more, one (another), (an-, some an-) otherwise

Another parable He spoke to them: "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened." Matthew 13:33

Like the promise to us, Jesus was changed:

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Co.15:51

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1Co.15:52

A moment means "indivisible time" or outside of time:

Atomos (g823) at'-om-os; from 1 (as a neg. particle) and the base of 5114; uncut, i.e. (by impl.) indivisible [an "atom" of time]: - moment

Allasso (g236) al-las'-so; from 243; to make different: - change.

And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: Heb 1:10

They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; Heb 1:11

And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. Heb.1:12

Paul said that the another was Christ. He was different from the flesh or law. The different Christ would be in Spirit form:

Heteros (g2087) het'-er-os; of uncert. affin.; (an-, the) other or different: - altered, else, next (day), one, (an) other, some strange.

"For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them." And they went to another village. Luke 9:56

The following passage shows that allos and heteros have much the same meaning:

I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different (heteros) gospel, Galatians 1:6

which is not another (allos); but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. Galatians 1:7

The another Who is different is the Spirit Christ Who is the another or in a fuller level of life. We are married to "Spirit" which is Christ and Gospel. As such, we bring forth fruit (children, fruit or offspring) from our husband and not from another person of the "god family" who would be different. The fruit of the Spirit is the fruit of Christ because He is now pure (not mixed) or Holy Spirit:  

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Galatians 5:22

And they that are Christs have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. Galatians 5:24

If we belong to Christ as pure or holy Spirit then the fruit of the Spirit is the fruit of Christ Who is pure Spirit. Christ does not need a junior "relative" to be His surrogate husband.

Holy Spirit Proceeding from the Father was Sent By Jesus Christ

Christ was another in that He, Who was God, laid aside the garments of majesty and glory. Christ as God was revealed or manifest in the fleshly tabernacle or house of a human being. He died in the flesh but self-resurrected by the "Sending" Spirit Who had lived in his body. He returned and sat down beside the majesty of the Father or Sender which He had laid aside to become flesh. As Jesus said of the voice from Heaven, "This is for your benefit." In the same way, God's manifestation as Father-Son is for our benefit as we associate ourselves with an invisible Father Spirit. However, it does not define a literal Father who literally sired a literal son.

In this sense, the Word (like our words) proceeded from the Father through His breathed "Spirit." This was Jesus Christ as fully God laying aside His own glory and taking on the "body prepared for me." When Jesus Christ was Glorified to sit in heavenly places, He "received the promise" of the Father. He then laid aside any other "form" and proceeded from the Father to serve in pure or Holy Spirit Form:

Remember that the Word was God. He laid aside His Godly privileges and became a human being. When He returned to the Spirit realm He "sat down" beside the glory He laid aside to become a man. As Father-Son Jesus Christ could say: "I will send you from the Father." He did not say, "the Father will send Spirit without me."

The Spirit would proceed from the Father

When the Son Sent Him

Therefore, the Father and Son are One. Not two, side-by-side but Spirit in flesh.

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: John 15:26

And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning. John 15:27

We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 1 John 4:6

Again, when Jesus Christ returned to His own throne or rule, and when He said I will send He meant that the Mind of Truth would proceed from the Father. At the same time He said: "I will come to you." The Apostles would know, and confess, that the Spirit presence was Christ the Spirit.

But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you. John 16:4

Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. Jn 16:7

And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: John 16:8

As God the Father spoke through Jesus Christ the Son as He dwelled fully in him, after Christ's returned to receive back that which He laid aside to become human, He would come again in Spirit form. His presence in Spirit form would not be an evil spirit but a Holy Spirit. It would be Jesus Christ, full Deity, speaking through Spiritual or mental means:

I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. John 16:12

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John16:13

He shall glorify (render glorious) me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. John 16:14

Because God manifested Himself in flesh or Son, whatever belonged to the Father belonged to the Son. This could not be true unless they are the same Spirit Being illustrating Himself as Father-Son.

The only way that John Doe can have everything which belongs to the President of John Doe Company is that John Doe is the President of John Doe Company. If only in their separate identity and being able to "stand side by side and face to face and hold committee meetings," it could not be said that everything the First Person had belonged to the Second Person. The Son could not have everything the Father has and still need to hold "committee meetings." The identity is stated by Jesus: "My Father and I are One" in a numerical sense:

All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. John 16:15

A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father. John 16:16

Then said some of his disciples among themselves, What is this that he saith unto us, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me: and, Because I go to the Father? John 16:17

I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. John 16:28

In a figurative sense, when God laid aside His Majesty and glory and put on the garment of flesh, in some sense He escaped from His invisible, Spirit form and became visible:

Ecerchomai (g1831) ex-er'-khom-ahee; from 1537 and 2064; to issue (lit. or fig.): - come (forth, out), depart out of, escape, get out, go (abroad, away, forth, out, thence), proceed (forth), spread abroad.

This does not speak of the "Son person" taking leave of the "Father and Spirit" persons. Rather, when He laid aside His glory He came out of His Spirit form to be flesh. Other uses of this word illustrate this:

And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel. Matthew 2:6

Jesus showed how a Spirit can come out of one form of dwelling and enter into another:

And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters. Matthew 8:32

When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. Matthew 12:43

Again, Jesus said clearly that:

I will not leave you comfortless (Fatherless): I will come to you. John 14:18

Christ Returned as Holy Spirit to Continue His Teaching to the Apostles

As a human, Christ began the teaching process. This was to prepare a few selected men who would be apostle-prophets and confirm without a doubt that He was God with them as Isaiah prophesied. However, as a man-to-man communicator He was limited because His audience was limited. He would have to "get into their mind" or spirit to finish the work:

I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. John 16:12

When the Spirit of Truth came it was not be a "co-equal" god better equipped to make this "the age of the Holy Spirit" than either of the other "members of the god family." No. This Spirit of Truth would be in their minds or spirits in a "direct operation sense." He would not even have a single word with which to finish the work of Father-Son.

As Jesus as full Deity spoke it would be understood by a Spirit-to-spirit communication. In the same way, my mouth (double-edged sword) blows air or wind or spirit to form words. God the Spirit would do this in ways we do not understand.

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth (The I in Spirit Form), is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 16:13

He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. Jn 16:14

All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. John 16:15

The Word, Who was full Deity, sat down or assumed the authority and privileges as God and it was Jesus Christ Who poured out everything which was both seen and heard.

Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise (announcement) of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. Acts 2:33

The Word, Who was God, sent Himself as the Son. As the Son He had the Father with Himself

The same Glorified Word, Who returned to His Majesty then sent His Spirit or Mind. When Jesus sent the Spirit or Mind, typified by tongues, it came from Himself as the Father or Sender. In another analogy, the Father is the Sender while the Son is the Sendee. The Spirit is the Mind of Full deity which God was competent to put into words.

Note the logical sequence:

Christ was God Who laid aside His glory as Father to become the Son

He said that the Comforter was presently with them but would later be in them.

Christ would return and "sit down" beside the Glory and Majesty He laid aside to put on a human body.

He promised to send another Comforter and said "I will come to you."

This would be because He had more things to teach them which could not occur as flesh o flesh but must be Mind to mind.

The Holy Spirit as "another form" would proceed from the Father

This meant that Christ as full Deity would send the "another form" to live in the mind.

The Spirit of truth or "the mental disposition of God's Mind" would not be a separate person with His own thoughts and words. Rather, the Mind in the minds of the apostles would deliver the words coming from God's own Mind.

The Spirit would come wearing the name Jesus Christ because Holy Spirit is not a name.

When the "another comforter" guided Paul into all truth it was the Spirit form of Jesus Christ.

When the Spirit prevented Paul from something it was the Spirit of Christ or Christ in Spirit form.

For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, Colossians 2:9

Kenneth Sublett
  
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I could give you plenty of rebuttal. But I will be doing overkill. This is not my intention. Since i love you as a sister in humanity, I will thread gently in my responses. I pray that not only you will be touvhed by the efforts of the mus.lims, but even the agnostics and the atheists, too. Afterall, we are all in this world together.  
      
 
 
 

 

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Olabowale, the problem with you is you always DECIETFULLY add certain words that are not in the bible to advance a fraudulent is'lamic agenda.

JOHN 14:15-17:  "If you love me you will obey what I command.  And I will ask the Father and He will give you another Comforter to be with you forever - the Spirit of Truth.  The world cannot accept him because it neither sees him nor knows him.  But you know him for he lives with you and will be in you."

The comforter here is clearly identified by 2 important factors:
 - He will be with us FOREVER - M'ohammad is long dead.
 - He is known as the "Spirit of Truth" - M'ohammad was not a spirit.

JOHN 14:25, 26:  "All this I have spoken while still with you.  But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."

 - the comforter is now identified as the Holy Spirit - this could not be a reference to m'ohammad

JOHN 16:7,8:  "But I tell you the truth:  It is for your good that I am going away.  Unless I go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.  When he comes he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment, "

 - there is no concept of sin and righteousness in the q'uran - so this "comforter" was clearly not m'ohammad.

JOHN 16:13-15:  "But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all truth.  He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.  He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it know to you.  All that belongs to the Father is mine.  That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you."

 - this comforter was to bring glory to Jesus Christ - M'ohammad DENIED the very essence of Christ's sacrifice on the cross and relegated Him to a mere "prophet".

Olabowale, you can post plenty of false theology all you want . . . the bible is just too clear to decieve us.

Sweetheart we already know that Barnabas was in the Bible no need to prove it to us. WHat we're saying is that what he actually wrote is not what your're posting. If you want I can post his writing and oh yeah the actual date of the writing. You will see the difference in the writing of the Epistle of Barnabas and the Gospel of Barnabas.

It's amazing how Barnanbas was filled with the Holy Ghost and yet the Holy Ghost isn't real, right? But hey the Bible is corrupt, yet you're trying to prove the relevance of Barnabas with the Bible. This is truly desperation at its best.

oh um you missed this part in Acts 9:27 where Barnabas confirmed that Saul was preaching fearlessly in the name of Jesus
"But Barnabas took him and brought him to the apostles. He told them how Saul on his journey had seen the Lord and that the Lord had spoken to him, and how in Damascus he had preached fearlessly in the name of Jesus"

If you're going to quote, please by all means quote the full story not half of it. Quote the truth, please thanks. Don't twist the Bible. Thank you.

"2While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them."
 3So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off."

So the Holy Spirit isn't real but was real enough for Barnabas to obey it, but hey the Bible is corrupted, yet you're trying to prove Barnabas in the Bible.

It's amazing how a man who was all cozied up with the Paul depicted him as evil. He preached with Paul whom he called evil. H epreched the same evil message with Paul. Amzing isn't it?

@Frizy




Can you believe that I am facing similar issue with regards to my Mother. MY Father accepted last year during Ramadhan. I even posted it late last year to show my appreciation to God for showing my father the right path:




http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-16387.448.html

I do feel for my mother. After I accepted, my father's last child did too but my mother is still the issue now and we do preach to her but it seems she realised the truth but she still likers that dancing, singing and clapping.

When with her, she would remind me of time for Salah and cautioned any of her children that did not observe the Salah on time but still do not know what is really wrong.

I could remember some years back when I went to pay her visit, I woke up in my room and found under my pillow a bible and asked why did that but said that it was for protection. I laughed and removed it but told her that it is not even advisable to put the Quran under one's pilow while sleeping but the best thing to do is to do ablution, recite some Surahs as the holy Prophet taught us and sleep on the right side and if you have bad dream, pray over it and do not tell anybody but if you have good , share it and appreciate God's favour,Mercies and greatness.

Please help me pray for her because we (her children) weep when we remember what her fate would be without Islam. It is very panful