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Kobojunkie
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Na so white man go dey kill us dey go.
What has white man to do with me getting good treatment and you getting bad treatment??? It is not about whether you have been on the receiving end of such maltreatment.
Minorities have to make noise. We are virtually powerless, without weapons and basically at the mercies of our Caucasian hosts.
Dude… again, I am still asking you, why should I be affected by the cry of this “so-called” minority?? What exactly would my cry be for when I have never been disrespected by the very same you claim disrespects you?? I am black, you are black. I am Nigerian, you are Nigerian. What again is your point?? Our only resort is an appeal to their conscience, a pricking of their concience if you like, so that we don't get ignored, nay crushed.
Myself, I have used BA several times without any trouble as well, but to prevent it ever happening, I will keep the white man's conscience on its toes.
So where is that placard.
You have never been disrespected by BA but you are quick to judge BA as being disrespectful by the accounts of one man when you were never really there and the man is clear about who is actually to blame?? Any how, I have never had a problem with BA. In fact, I have gotten nothing but excellent service from BA, Virgin Atlantic and even American Airline. Why should I carry a placard for a man who claims that he was being maltreated when I was not there and from the man‘s story, I can clearly tell that he is going after the wrong group. I have never witnessed such and I am not even sure of such?? If you are racist ( with issues with the other race), isn’t that your problem and not the problem of those who are not racist??
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dangermous
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Go and carry placard against all the "Mugabes" who have refused to leave offices in Africa first and see if you an "prick" the Black man's conscience or lack thereof.
Yet you keep worshipping them. When ken Saro Wiwa, Dele Giwa, Abiola and Fela were killed like guinea pigs, did you carry placards?
Guy, go and lick your sperm. Nonsense. Na who feed monkey banana. @Kobojunkie Dude yaself. When them plant 10 inch baton up that man yansh, e no reach to protest? Until it becomes culturally acceptable amongst these organisations before we decide to act eh. Its better to nip it in the bud I say
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Kobojunkie
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What exactly are you proposing we nip in the bud?? Your deluded fears?? Or fears actually based on today's reality??
Again, I have never been disrespected while traveling or dealing with BA in anyway at all. You mean I should go around fearing that BA might disrespect me someday and so act like an imbecile and then blame BA when I get disrespected for be a racist jackass and you think that is the best way to deal???
You still have not answered my question and I still do not get what exactly you feel needs to be nipped in the bud. Your racist fears or your deluded idea that they are after you when there is no evidence for ( as you have confirmed that BA has neither disrespected you nor maltreated you in any way or form) such, apart from that which you continue to dream up for your future.
Should we go kill all the whitemen then cause of fears that some of us may be habouring of whitemen in the future killing us all???
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PH-Grenade
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The mere fact that someone is being deported does not make him/her an animal. EVEN ANIMALS ARE GIVEN BETTER TREATMENT WHEN THEY ARE CAPTURED AND BEING RETURN TO THE JUNGLE.
The whole thing smacks of racism. BA could have handled the situation better than it did. I salute the courage of the Nigerians that stood up for humanity. For those who witness injustice being meted out and keep silent, WHAT GOES ROUND COMES AROUND. Gen Victor Malu was in charge of the Army when Odi community in Bayelsa was razed down by the military, he justified the action. When he retired, his own community in Benue state was razed down by the same Army.
A similar thing occured on a Virgin Atlantic flight that I was on from London late last year. The white guard who was accompanying a female deportee to Lagos decided to handcuff her throughout the duration of the flight. A struggle ensued and other security men were called in. It was a terrible experience, four men trying to forcefully overpower a lady - her grunting and all. We stood up to them and told them they couldn't do that. A nigerian had died as a result of the same treatment a few weeks earlier and it was in the new. The Virgin Atlantic staff did not intervene. At the end of the day, wisdom prevailed and she was not shackled! We had a peaceful flight.
Hypocrisy, racism, lack of common sense, arbitrariness is the problem with these whites security guys.
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texazzpete (m)
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Dammit!
are you clowns aware it's standard operating procedure to handcuff any non-voluntary deportee while on a plane? It's done to citizens of EVERY country. No one wants to take the risk of having someone loose on the plane that's so emotionally distressed.
Ignorance is the main driving force behind some of the sillly arguments i've heard in this forum. If you cannot question why the female deportee was struggling, then i don't know what to say to you.
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SENATOR JD (m)
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just say nothing  @angel101 thax for the info
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Spermdrops (m)
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Dammit!
are you clowns aware it's standard operating procedure to handcuff any non-voluntary deportee while on a plane? It's done to citizens of EVERY country. No one wants to take the risk of having someone loose on the plane that's so emotionally distressed.
Ignorance is the main driving force behind some of the sillly arguments i've heard in this forum. If you cannot question why the female deportee was struggling, then i don't know what to say to you.
Ignorance is a compliment. Try stupidity. It was even a female deportee? No wonder Mr. Omotade got up from his seat. Anything for a cheap P****! Even a criminal one! Woman wrapper!!!! She was very lucky that it was not the Nigerian Police. She would have given birth to like 8 children before anyone found her arse infected with all kinds of MOPOL diseases from Chad and Kainji Dam.
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Spermdrops (m)
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Imani (f) Posts: 877
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Re: British Airways Regrets Maltreatment Of Nigerians « #50 on: May 05, 2008, 10:20 AM »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @ Kobojunkie,
I am tired of sounding like a broken record on this topic.
What i know is when you respect yourself, in this age and climate, and all things being equal, people will do the same. Everyone is still entitled to their opinions including Mr Omotade. I will be travelling with BA soon, I will have to watch with interest.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! A traitor in the house. Did you not hear that there is a boycott? Please patronize "Nigerian canoes" and ferry yourself across. Why use BA?
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Spermdrops (m)
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Guy, go and lick your sperm. Nonsense.
Na who feed monkey banana.
@Kobojunkie
Dude yaself. When them plant 10 inch baton up that man yansh, e no reach to protest?
Until it becomes culturally acceptable amongst these organisations before we decide to act eh.
Its better to nip it in the bud I say
Try messing with the MOPOLs in Nigeria. You will ask for sperm to drink and you will not even get any What is culturally unacceptable is a so called British citizen going to Nigeria to fight with his Nigerian citizenship. If he is a dual citizen common sense dictates that he remains "neutral"! How can you use you left hand to fight your right hand when you are not "clapping"? I think his British citizen should be stripped for treason. British Caledonia or British Airways is a huge part of Great Britain's identity. Of course Nigeria does not have one as evidenced by no functioning domestic or international airlines . So I do not expect most of the "consumers" of services to understand any of that. When is the boycott starting again?
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2Legit
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what's all the noise about. you don't have to agree to anything as long as you've never experienced it. wait till the day you experience it before talking or better still, wait till the day your children get horribly treated before you realise something exists.
I have never died: does that mean that death does not exist for human beings?
BTW, those who will boycott have already started the boycoot. It doesn't have to involve everyone.
There's nothing for us to fight over. Those who will rather support others against their own should do so and those who refuse to do so should continue being that way.
There is maltreatment even in Nigeria but it doesn't mean I should condone maltreatment everywhere simply because Nigerians get maltreated by Nigerians at home as well. There is miscarriage of justice in Britain but you should try and see what happens whenever a British citizen is given a harsh judgement anywhere else in the world
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PH-Grenade
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Dammit!
are you clowns aware it's standard operating procedure to handcuff any non-voluntary deportee while on a plane? It's done to citizens of EVERY country. No one wants to take the risk of having someone loose on the plane that's so emotionally distressed.
Ignorance is the main driving force behind some of the sillly arguments i've heard in this forum. If you cannot question why the female deportee was struggling, then i don't know what to say to you.
I strongly believe that the "ARE YOU CLOWNS" comment in your post is meant for the elders in your household. I strongly do. You uncultured brat.
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folem
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Dammit!
are you clowns aware it's standard operating procedure to handcuff any non-voluntary deportee while on a plane? It's done to citizens of EVERY country. No one wants to take the risk of having someone loose on the plane that's so emotionally distressed.
Ignorance is the main driving force behind some of the sillly arguments i've heard in this forum. If you cannot question why the female deportee was struggling, then i don't know what to say to you.
The deportee was a Man, Augustine Eme who is a member of Massob according to some reports. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/a-world-of-casual-racism-exposed-at-ba-815842.html
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angel101 (f)
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@vicade Is it possible to keep to the topic? so because nepa does not work i should not expect service that I have paid for. well like i have said before its a matter of personal choice.
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SENATOR JD (m)
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". Of course Nigeria does not have one as evidenced by no functioning domestic or international airlines . So I do not expect most of the "consumers" of services to understand any of that.
i stand to disagree with this player,we do have functioning domestic airlines in Nigeria and international as well, at least i can testify to that because i have flown lagos to abuja on various occasions, so your point on no functioning seems strange to me.
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angel101 (f)
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I wonder what u guys consider virgin nigeria to be? fyi british airways has long been privatised!
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Kobojunkie
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Virgin Nigeria does not belong to Nigeria. Nigeria only get's about 20% while the majority still belongs to the Virgin guy. By the way, Chevron does not also belong to Nigeria.
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Jamco45
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Virgin Nigerian is owned by Nigeria. "Virgin Nigeria will be owned 51% by Nigerian institutional investors, via a private placement process to be completed before launch. The balance will be held by Virgin Atlantic Limited. Total investment is expected to be around US$ 50 million, of which Virgin Atlantic will be providing its 49% share, likely to be around $24.5 million. After the airline has successfully developed a track record share ownership will be widened to all Nigerian investors via an Initial Public Offering on the Nigerian Stock Exchange". http://www.virginnigeria.com/en/ng/press/pr2004-09-28.htmlhttp://www.virginnigeria.com/en/ng/press/pr2007-4-19.html
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Kobojunkie
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My Bad, bad stats but owning 51% of shares in a company does not mean you own the company. It simply means you own majority shares in the company. Two completely different things. 49 % of the company is owned by the foreign Virgin company.
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Jamco45
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CHEVRON NIGERIAN IS ALSO OWNED BY NIGERIA 60% and 40% CHEVRON "Chevron Nigeria Ltd. (CNL), Chevron's principal subsidiary in Nigeria, operates and holds a 40 percent interest in 13 concessions covering 2.2 million acres (8,900 sq km), predominantly in the onshore and near-offshore regions of the Niger Delta. CNL operates under a joint-venture arrangement with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, which owns a 60 percent interest". http://www.chevron.com/countries/nigeria/
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Jamco45
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Kobojunkie,
Trust me it means you own the company and you can make any major decision/s as you are the majority shareholder.
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Kobojunkie
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WOW, it is??? And yet Nigerians continue to blame the WEST For whatever happens with CHEVRON?? lol. Give me a break. Chevron is not Owned by Nigeria. Nigerian holds 60% does not mean it is OWNED by Nigeria.
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Kobojunkie
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Kobojunkie,
Trust me it means you own the company and you can make any major decision/s as you are the majority shareholder.
No, it does not.
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Jamco45
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Ok if you say so. Please do a little research about businesses.
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Kobojunkie
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I own one. Enough to know that when you have investors, you can not longer claim FULL OWNERSHIP of the company. Guess what?? Even Bill Gates does not own Microsoft. He however started it. That is how businesses work. And if your investors can find a way to get investors on the other side to come over to their side, they can over rule whatever decisions you used to be able to make when you had controlling shares.
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angel101 (f)
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Virgin Nigeria does not belong to Nigeria. Nigeria only get's about 20% while the majority still belongs to the Virgin guy. By the way, Chevron does not also belong to Nigeria.
neither does british airways belong to the british govt
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Kobojunkie
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neither does british airways belong to the british govt
BINGO!!! so trying to treat BA as if it were the government is RIDICULOUS and immature. BA is subject to the law even as you and everyone else who visits the country or lives there is. Now if you continue to think along those lines, you might actually figure out more clues as to why BA is not the problem even in this topic.
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Jamco45
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You are diverting. Nobody treated BA like the government.
BA has been privatised long time ago therefore it belongs to the shareholders not the government.
Bill Gates owns about 22% of Microsoft therefore he is just a shareholder.
Virgin Nigeria is Nigerian National Airline 51% owned by Nigerians.
Honestly there is nothing wrong with not knowing everything but I know you will not give up so I will. Owning a business does not mean you know everything about one. I own about 5 successful ones home (UK, Nigerian) and abroad (Ghana) and I will never claim to know it all.
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angel101 (f)
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BINGO!!! so trying to treat BA as if it were the government is RIDICULOUS and immature. BA is subject to the law even as you and everyone else who visits the country or lives there is. Now if you continue to think along those lines, you might actually figure out more clues as to why BA is not the problem even in this topic.
the statement is directed at those who say its ok to condone rubbish from BA because nigeria has no national carrier!
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vicade (m)
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My point is this so called maltreatment is nothing compared to the maltreatment giving by the past governmentof nigeria. but what some people here are saying is that you can be maltreated by the government but not by BA because you paid for your services, which is a fair point. But at the end of the day when BA apologises and compensates as the case may be,BA would have cleared their name to an extent and nigerian government will continue to maltreat us. Why in the name of GOD was the guy even deported???-That was the spark to this whole issue.
BA maltreated nigerians under the directive of the british police and that is an issue??? No disrespect meant but in nigeria, Maltreatment is part of us now.
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texazzpete (m)
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@Jamco45 YOU do research about businesses. The Nigerian Govt owns 60% of some jointly operated concessions with Chevron Nigeria, not 60% of Chevron Nigeria. Chevron Nigeria belongs to the Chevron group.
Read carefully what you post next time.
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frag (m)
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For all of you who have said so much in support of BA. I hope it does happen to you. Its really sad to see some of you supporting BA on this issue.They should be made to pay compensation to everyone affected by their stupid act.You may say what you like but Nigerians are humans too.
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