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Sky Blue
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4Him, There is no need arguing with your arm chair philosophy. we sit on NAiraland all day and compklian, how many of you know your reps or have even written them to ask about what they are doing. If you don't do that ho will you keep them in check. Till you do that then you don't have the moral right to critize them because just like them you are doing nothing, If you send them letters or you make a single attempt to get to yoour rep and they don't reply you its a different matter. we as citizens are also part of Government constitutionally you have a role to play, Make your rep accountable to you or initiate recall if not SHUT THE HALL UP
I wholeheartedly agree that we need to begin to do our own job as citizens too. And as i have said before, if everyone on nairaland were to engage with people in power, from your local government chairman, to the rep from your state, to anybody basically you know in power and enquire as to their vision and what they are doing in their respective sectors etc then that is actually doing something. People always feel helpless as to what we can each do instead of just coming on Nairaland everyday and get dissappointed by yet another Nigerian news story. I for one am going to make the effort to contact my rep and local government chairman. The info is not had to come by. Just go to the website of the Nigerian house of reps and get their info. We really need to engage with each other as a nation and this is a start. Does anybody here work in media please? I mean is it not about time we got some kind off show on the Nigerian airwaves were politicians are dragged on and quized as to what they are doing? Not these "yes sir, thank you sir" shows. Time to play our roles as citizens and also get more involved in our nation building. |
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woommy (m)
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guys don't be that annoyed in your comments,it seem u ave 4gotten that these people spent so much to get to that sit and d prayer of every businessman is to make profit,so we don't ave any say or are u d one that voted for d current honourable in your constituency? d people voted for did not eventually got there.
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Eziachi
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The fact of the matter is we are one and we must learn to live together,
AKALA, ALAS, DARIYE,ODILI,IGBENIDEON, and that gov from Jigawa forgotting his name now, WHAT has all these guys have in common they are crooks, they are from the 4 corners of our nation. Even if we have a country called Oduduwa, the elites in that new country will be the same elites that are ruling their respective states and looting the treasury. so gentlemen breaking up is not an option. Look at somalia they are all somalians speaking one language yet it is the most disatrous state in Africa today. Lets deal with the ills of society as we are and stop looking for a scape goat blaming everything on the union.
No we are not!! Speak for yourself. We are one in crude oil booty we sharing, minus that, that is where the oneness ends. My village is closer to South West Cameroon than yours but they can't claim that we are one. Thanks for the Somalia example, at least the Somalians are not claiming to be one with Ethiopian. |
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Sagamite (m)
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Eziachi,
Do you know what happened when India and Pakistan separated? Was it a peaceful one? Do you know the millions that were killed? Or you don't know why they are still national enemies till today?
With development not distributed in Nigeria (it is centralised in Lagos and a large part of SW, Abuja and PH), multiple ethnicity in each region (e.g. who tells you the Ibiobio/Efik would want a country dominated by Ibos) and a strong religious identity divide, I see Nigeria separation as a recipe for large scale death.
I personally don't mind separation but I am more interested in dealing with the looters by using legislation. China did it by killing all corrupt officials.
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Seun (m)
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China did it by killing all corrupt officials. Oh shut up. Using murder to solve theft? A murderer is worse than a looter. |
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Sky Blue
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@Sagamite, development in Port Harcourt? Since when?
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Sagamite (m)
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4Him, There is no need arguing with your arm chair philosophy. we sit on NAiraland all day and compklian, how many of you know your reps or have even written them to ask about what they are doing. If you don't do that ho will you keep them in check. Till you do that then you don't have the moral right to critize them because just like them you are doing nothing, If you send them letters or you make a single attempt to get to yoour rep and they don't reply you its a different matter. we as citizens are also part of Government constitutionally you have a role to play, Make your rep accountable to you or initiate recall if not SHUT THE HALL UP
Aisha2, What lulu world do you reside in  . You are going to write a citizen letter to an Adedibu-backed Baba Sala thinking legislator who most likely can not read and write. And you expect it to benefit in what way? Look, I live in the UK, that stuff can happen here but in Nigeria? Where do you live? Dreamland? So what would you do if your letter is ignored? You will write another one? Or you will pay the rep a visit? I am almost confident that doing the latter might result in medical expenses after his thugs tell you what they think. Unfortunately with the way things work in Nigeria (lack of care by the government especially in enforcing the rules or providing justice), the only way to force change or stop this wanton legalised looting is for the masses to gather together and pay the House of Assembly a riotious visit every single day till they rescind their decision. |
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Sky Blue
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@Sagamite, so you have tried and it did not happen, or you just don't feel like trying in the first place?
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Sagamite (m)
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Seun,
Cut the pink, liberal, pious, goody two shoes crap.
"Murder is the unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice."
Punishment is lawful and different from murder despite what you salvation church might tell you.
If you don't want the punishment then don't commit the crime.
You will be more justified to call looting of public funds murder if you considered the volumes of Nigerias that die of malnutrition, road accidents, suicide from frustration, poor health, armed robbery, fake drugs etc that the stolen public funds is supposed to be used for or monitor.
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Sagamite (m)
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@Sagamite, development in Port Harcourt? Since when?
My impression is that it is Nigeria's third city which has a high concentration of foreigners. @Sagamite, so you have tried and it did not happen, or you just don't feel like trying in the first place?
As I said, I live in the UK. |
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Sky Blue
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@Sagamite, port harcourt has practically seen little to no meaningful development in the 8 to 9 years, just a lot of very bad governance. Don't take my word for it, call anyone who lives there and ask them for yourself. Ask them what meaningful development they have seen?
You don't have to live in Nigeria to be able to contact your rep.
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Sagamite (m)
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Jamco45,
Don't get it twisted, the Nigerian president does not make N3m a year.
I did a personal analysis of this about 3 months ago. With all the allowances (EXCLUDING ALL LOANS AND ONE-OFF PAYMENTS), Nigeria's president makes circa £145,000 a year (about N34m). In his final year, he makes close to £185,000.
The data is on my laptop which I have sent for repairs. When I get it back, I will post for you to see how much governors, ministers, senators, HOSs earn.
They are milking it.
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klas (m)
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Oh shut up. Using murder to solve theft? A murderer is worse than a looter.
Criminals are not murdered, they are executed. |
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AkoEja
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These governors did not actually win the election, but they forced themselves in anyway. same thing is happening in Osun state with governor Olagunsole Oyinlola distributing N150 million naira to 26 law breakers
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Sagamite (m)
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As promised, these are the figures which includes all cash allowances.
PS: I used the conversion rate of £1 to N235 and these are per year pay.
President: £140,641.39
Vice President: £123,063.58
Senate President: £97,719.15
Deputy Senate President: £79,129.79
Average Senator: £68,510.64 (might be more for those that chair commitees)
Speaker of House: £69,123.40
Deputy Speaker of House: £64,385.11
Average House Member: £55,465.96 (might be more for those that chair commitees)
Governor: £88,939.68
Deputy Governor: £85,120.56
Chief Justice: £99,370.36
Minister: at least £34,967.06 (I have no figures of most of their allowances but the ones I have shows this as minimum)
Minister of State: at least £32,483.18 (I have no figures of most of their allowances but the ones I have shows this as minimum)
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Sagamite (m)
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So, if Iyabo Obasanjo is earning at least £68,000 per year in Nigeria (not in US or UK and excluding all estacodes she gets when she travels abroad) for doing nothing. Since their is no metrics to measure the lawmakers' performance.
And she still feels the need to steal money meant to cater for the health of those that live on less than 20p per day that are already dying in their thousands then I think the death sentence should not be out of the question.
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muyi serra (m)
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These guys are blood thieves and fool, somebody will be paid 20million naire and another person will receive 15.000 naire monthly, can you imagine the difference, if we continue like these, Nigeria can never be develop period!!
They should remember that they are there to serve and not to be served. Cows
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Kobojunkie
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OZA NO BUA EEE , These people dey naija dey make this much for doing practically nothing each day? CHAI~!!!!  Maybe I need to go become a politician in Nigeria ooo!! |
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dee02 (m)
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Thieving and waste of public funds on the highest order
Those idiots who have no fucking clue of the laws but they still get this much money
Majority of them have no business there in the first place because they have no credentials
If each one of this so-called lawmakers have conscience, they would reject the money
The average worker would work a lifetime day and night to save 20MILLION NAIRA
At times i wonder if this idiots know what it takes to Govern or to lead?
Because for them, it is all about distributing money to various IOU's and looting for personal gains!
AKALA and the likes of him wasting money that should be better spent on suffering citizens would never know peace
Lawmakers who greedily accept this money with big ugly grins would never know peace if they fail to acknowledge the sufferings of a common man
And the same goes to every other state who treasury is continually looted whilst its indigenes suffer in abject penury!!!!
LAPDOGS CALLING THEMSELVES LAWMAKERS
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Rlst84sale (m)
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Guys please don't forget the 5% value added tax, I guess that's Adedibu's commissions or transaction fee, lol. What a shame!.
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deols (f)
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That oyo state governor is dishing out money, cars,etc is no surprise.have you forgotten how he got into power? He's got to pay his supporters somehow and you know He needs them,especially the Molete warlord who's already thinning out for an assured second term.
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olufunmibi (m)
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why are you guys so disturbed about constituency allowances?that is obviously their own birthright! it is amala politics, it doesn't work out by the principle of common sense like you guys are imagining.moderation is grossly inappropriate in that game. you have to be daft, animalistic,infact,you have to render your brain redundant and start thinking with your intestines and anus to play the game. and even,who are you? who is your father? your father is or was a dedicated and honest civil servant who has respect for a phenomenon called humanity and worked with the code of responsibility all his working life. if this describes you, you can never understand oyo state politics. you are not in a position to understand .God save us from this "pacesetting" woes!
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SENATOR JD (m)
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@all sorry this is off thread but has anybody seen this?find it hard to swallow, wahala dey o |
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dee02 (m)
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part 2
KAI IBORI DON HAMMER!!!  |
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Sagamite (m)
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Senator JD,
Give us some background story to the picture.
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SENATOR JD (m)
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@sagamite dnt really have a background to it, it was sent to my box by a friend of mine, guess it was a discovery of EFCC agents or so thats why i posted it here maybe someone else might have seen it and would have enough story about it, was difficult for me to swallow, though i know we have some heartless,useless and wicked leaders.
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Sagamite (m)
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Ok, chief! Thanks anyway.
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oyebode ba
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WHAT A WASTE IN OUR DEAR OYO AND NIGERIA IN GENERAL.
IT IS VERY ,VERY GLARING WHEN LEGISLATIVE ARM AND EXECUTIVE ARM IS TOTALLY AND UNANIMOUSLY AGREED TO DO SUCH A THING INFACT ARMED ROBBERS ARE MANY IN THEIR MIDST.A SITUATION WHERE BY EXECUTIVE ARE THE ONE DICTACTING FOR LEGISLATIVE ARM DEFINITLY THEY AV USELESS THEMSELVE INFACT IF THE ISSUE OF TRAVELLING IS NOT THERE FINE AND THE MONEY IS SPENDING JUDICIOUSLY I CAN SAY IT IS LOVELY BCOS GOVERNOR CANT DO ALL BUT IS IT ANY CHECK AND BALLANCE 4 DIS SO CALL CONSTITUENCY ALLOWANCE?NO,IT IS TAKE HOME BCOS THEY AV COLLECTED HALF OF IT AND NO SHOW 4 IT.OUR ROAD IN OYO IS THE MOST WORSIEST ROAD SO FAR,OUR ELECTRICITY ALSO JOIN D RACE OF WOWORITY,ETC.AM ROBBER LEAD AND You ARE EXPECTING GUDNESS FROM HIM NOTHING GUD WILL COM FROM SATAN.
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Lorek
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what a wast, keep this in mind when you pay your taxes,
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bilymuse
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they deserve it, its their share of the national cake
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E-chemical (m)
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I am very glad that I was born a Nigerian. What is happening (to me) is melodramatic. Hum!!!!!!!!
However, let us leave them alone. "The fool is accumulating wealth not knowing who will spend them" is what the Bible says.
If only they could follow the path of Andrew Carnegie, the better for them.
Carnegie died at 84 with his demise truly painful. yet, his works leave after him.
Let our politicians change their greedy and corrupt nature. They should not forget how Abacha ended.
A wise man should learn from others. It is only a fool that will learn from personal experience.
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