Is There Any Hope For Those Of Us "unfortunate" To Have Finished With 3rd Class?

is there any hope for those of us "unfortunate" to have finished with 3rd class?

kazan, Please don't allow your class of degree to limit u. There are many things u can do with your degree. l ve friends that ve your class of degree and are gainfully employed. A friend just got a job with reltel. Another with Nigerdock and my cousin went into IT and is in his 2nd job. So be positive minded. Try not to display your class of degree in your CV. It is well. Dont forget prayer. Stay cool.

missed the point of the post. advise him, what can he do. no use bringing up unnecesary sentiments and massaging of ego.

gongo-aso you are a complete idiot, why not go to north and pursue cow abi nama like your stupid brothers over there in the north rather than didplay your mega stupidity here, the guy gave him good advice and hope and you are talking nonsence from your smelling yansh we  you no wash as you sit. hausa goat

Panteleonk, why are you insulting gongo aso?!! He is only saying the truth. Putting down someone who made a 1st class is not going to help he who had a third class to get a job. I'm sure the thing about forex was a joke but the fact is that if you do have a third class, you're better off doing your own thing.


@Vanessa: Oh please!!! I'm sure you don't know anyone who had a 1st class for you to be talking the way you are. Do you think its easy?!!! You need to maintain a 90% A grade average in your subjects and you feel they will not be able to defend it? Give credit where its due and don't hate.

@ poster: Like you've been told. It is still possible for you to get a good job though you need to shore yourself up with some other things to make you look more 'sellable'. MCSE, Cisco, Ican etc.

O boy if u wan  know who get 3rd class, ask of tony Elumelu, UBA CEO, what of Gani  Fawehinmi etc,no b d class of degree u get , na the sense wey u get,  most companies to day no care about class of degree, na wetin u get to offer na im them want

Every body knows that the calibre of graduates today are half baked, most of them "sort" in order to get a good class of degree, that is why companies like shell, still have to retrain the so called graduates in order for them to work,

Even you field of study does not matter, what does one who studied botany or zoology have to do with working in a bank ? na connection them all get, so no mind your degree, SHINE YOUR EYE ! companies dey wey go employ you, no b d class of degree matter

@ deor3

leave them to continue to 'console' themselves that the other graduates are 'half baked'

If First Class is 'half baked' then third class is what. . .1/8th baked? 

Ok so now it is a matter of 'sorting' - did you get a third class because you didn't have money to sort?

Class of degree is not the matter - just get any degree and look for work - thousands of people with better degrees are out there and you think it 'doesn't matter' right?

Try other modes of self development, seek further training and qualifications that can make you employable regardless of your degree, or seek out a way to start on your own. You may have the opportunity to get a job with your current degree - but let no one deceive you that 'it doesn't matter' - it does.

Many companies will not even look at your CV without a given class of degree - brace up and take whatever opportunities you have with all seriousness.

what have you said?

Ok there are a few people who got their degrees illegally, so what? Does that negate the fact that a third class degree is not good enough for most companies to employ?

why all the emphasis on shell anyways? So what if one guy messed up?

You didn't answer me - if a first class grad is half baked, what happened to the third class one? unbaked at all? 

Even those grads being employed from abroad, majority of them are the same 'half baked' or 'sorted' First Class or 2/1 degree holders who went ahead and  proved their selves in foreign universities, or did they 'sort' abroad as well? 

I didn't get a first class mind you, but all this lazy talk annoys me - i know people who had to work through school but still got degrees good ones at that without sorting or any nonsense - if you keep excusing mediocrity there will never be progress.

Stop massaging his ego like someone else said - the truth is that he is in a poor situation and will need to work harder than most to get out of it.

There may be jobs, but definitely not Shell. . .at least for 5-6 years if he can get suitable experience.

I should be 'realistic' eh? How realistic is it to expect to have the same chances as a 1 or 2/1 candidate? Some chance maybe, but not an equal one. He needs to work extra hard - seek loans from family members, work menial jobs, do whatever he can (that is legal) to either raise funds for further studies or start a business.

I thought you mentioned Elumelu who got third class - did I borrow him money to start his business too? 

When you have something insightful or intellgent beyond 'the other grads are half baked or they 'sorted'' mantra you keep repeating, let me know.

. . . You're a smart one. . .

@ mosyb

My guy , I no get first class but I wish I did. Dont nobody tell You different ; IT MATTERS. If not for anything it shows commitment to one's cause.

@ Poster
 Is there any hope for you? Ofcourse there is. But it depends on a lot. How willing are you to step up and rise up to the challenge. You are worried because you've realised the amount of emphasis put on class of degree. I don't blame you.

Your class of degree is not half as important as the society makes it seem. Now, no matter what ANYBODY says, YOU need to understand that fact to move on, or else you might give up on yourself.

A few companies understand this fact and structure their recruiting accordingly. find them. Also develop yourself in other ky areas too.

At the end of the day, the question is : WHO ARE YOU.

debosky, og2711, and gongo_aso, may God bless your souls, may you always prosper in whatever you do for saying the truth and sticking to the truth.

What is all these stupid talk about someone 'sorting' to get 1st class or a 1st class graduate not being able to defend himself.

Agreed, a 1st class graduate may not be a great orator or an extrovert, but a 1st class graduate is very capable.
Don't ever miss great orator skills for technical ability or intelligence.
You will even be surprised to discover that most of these 'loud speakers' and fast talkers are not sound academically.
On the other hand, most 1st class graduates are introverts who may not like talking too much, but are silent, efficient machines.

Not posessing great oratory skills is not the same thing as "The guy cannot defend his certificate"

Agreed some 1st class graduate may have crammed and dumped down answers when they where in schools, but it takes serious effort to finish with a 1st class.

And, you can never sort to get a 1st class.

And God in his impartiality will never allow a first class graduate to be wrongly classified with a third class graduate.

You can't eat your cake and have it, and what you sow is what you reap.

You can not have wasted your time in school with laziness and lazy excuses, and expect to be treated equally with someone who labored hard to finish tops.


Also this stupid talk that you came out with a 3rd class because you didn't have money to sort is rubbish.

The only semester in school when i had the best result in my class was the semester when i was poorest.
Even having no money didn't make me have time and money for frivolities, and clubbing and girls and other academic vices.

You can be a poor student and still be the best student.

So, if you are still an undergraduate and digesting all these negative postings, you have started creating your unemployment, but if you sit tight now, there will always be a job for you because God will always remember your labor and sweat when you were in school.

By working hard in school and facing your studies, you are signing a contract with God which he (God) will honor and reward you accordingly when you finish school.

For a 3rd class graduate, you have heard it all, double the effort you did make when you were in school now, and hope for a miracle.

Peace.

@poster, like I mentioned earlier, have you ever thought about this forex thing? you could train yourself and explore its possibilities. Believe me, even 1st class graduate dey do forex. I even know medical doctor into it too. You can still be submitting applications while trading and in God's time  be called. That time , forex fit make you reject job offers 




never mind the negative sides, but you know little truths don't hurt, @vanessa & palentorubbish!

Mosy B, the reason why companies do aptitude tests is because of the sheer number of people who have 2.1 and 1st class in this country, not because degrees are worthless. If you've been to any test centre you will know how large this number is.

And please stop confusing the poster by telling him that the only way is by levels, sorting and the like. I personally don't have any level and barely (make i no lie) sorted while in school. But by God's grace I am making my way SLOWLY BUT SURELY in this life. Better job no easy, even if no one uses level. So that is why you must arm yourself to the teeth with as much things as possible to seperate you from the crowd.

Poster, please pay no attention to the examples mosyb is giving. Abacha's son, politicians and other drop outs. If those are his inspirations, they should not be yours. I'm sure you did not go to school to become these. There are people who came through adversity with hardwork and good virtues not sorting and their father's name.

Poster, i think the message is simple. Develop yourself, pray and open your eyes to ANY opportunity that comes your way.

Guys,

Its not about being lazy that caused most people to end with third class, its clearly due to lack of focus. I am a third class grad, but can hold my own academic wise against anything grade u ended up with. I have dusted countless 2.1s in aptitude tests and my masters class. You guys shouldn't resort to name calling because someone asked for your opinion wrt to a subject matter.