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Toks2008
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Hello Everyone, This may sound odd but the truth is that AIDS is curable with Herbs and i mean Chinese herbs. I have seen this happen in more than 7 people in Nigeria and the only way you can believe is recommending this theory to any HIV infected person whether full blown or mild case, just e-mail support@diamondfield.net. If you like waive this aside, no problem but why i am posting this is because people are INGNORANT of this and the so called western world says there is no cure. What a pity. To start with ask any doctor what they see before they confirm anyone positive. Just a drop in your T-lymphosytes which are the disease fighting cells of the body and not the virus itself even when electron microscope is used I am not asking you to give me kobo, i don't even want to see you because i am not a doctor neither am i prescribing per se but if you are interested, IM READY TO GIVE YOU ONE ON ONE THE EXACT PRODUCTS TO USE AND HOW TO USE THEM AND I BET YOU WILL BE AMAZED. If it worked on these real people that i know then it will work for anybody. GOOD LUCK TOKUNBO |
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reindeer
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haba! Man must wack now!
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Toks2008
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Hi Guys, You guys are very funny and i am really laughing my head off. Well the truth is that i thank GOD fo my life because i am even amazed myself at my talents and when i saw this forum i just felt that i should contribute all i know for everyone to benefit. It will interest you to know that i am a very comfortable person financially and also a graduate of about 12 years now. I believe that my brilliant acumen has made me to read very widely concerning many things. If list out all the things i am capable of doing professionally, you will shout so don't marvel at this tip of the ice berg. you can check out my website which i personally built at http://www.diamondfield.net. It will only be unfortunate to see people go through some problems and knowing that you can help and you just fold your arms is a regretable act. Well I read microbiology in school so that gave me the knowlegde of sciences,(you can check my post under the thread*i need a male child) after my university degree, i trained myself in IT and later on developed great interest in marketing so my guys don't mind me just make the best of whatever i post and consider the implementation. Shkena. Back to my thread. Remember the phrase, I don't need your money and believe me i am too comfortable to be looking for money in the manner you presumed. I am only offering a humanitarian service here. If you know anyone who has AIDS please e-mail me and i will tell you exactly what herbs to use. Remember, i don't need your kobo as i said and i don.t even need to see you. Thanks Ola alias Jack of all trade and master of all |
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kathyekiti
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I would like to clarify something you said. I'm not even going to address your claims. Doctors do check for the virus. That is how the viral load of a patient is determined. Feel free to look it up.
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Toks2008
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Hi Bro,
I beg befor you start attacking me, i would like you to know that i am not a doctor, i only gave an information which i believe will be important for everyone.
Scientists only have an idea what some parts of HIV RNA look like but the question is this? Have they beed able to isolate the Virus and show to the world that this is the structure at this pont in time before it mimics or changes structure as they claim. the Viral load text is done by creating a mirror image of HIV RNA and match it against what they find in someone's blood. A mirror image of a RNA of a virus that has has never been isolated.
Bro lets not fool ourselves. Viral load test has to do with matching and morphology are not the same in any way nevertheless, all i want you to know is that i know people who were confirmed HIV positive even full blown AIDS that were cured of it simple. If you want more info, e-mail me.
Before i sign off on the final note please understand that a drop in the T-lymphocytes as i said can give rise to AIDS. And many factors can leag to this and if it may interest you, studies have shown that a very dangerous strain of staphlococcus aureus(Bacteria) can also cause a serious drop in your immune system hence give rise to AIDS manifesting the exact symptoms of the so called HIV
These herbal products will restore your white blood cells back to the normal level and also guard your system against microbal invasion. Look here, i am not selling herbs to you but i am only recommending so if you like e-mail me to get info on how to buy the product.
In conclusion, AIDS is as real as day and night but there is no HIV and AIDS is curable. Period
Tokunbo
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Vicjustice (m)
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This is my usual answer to such claims about HIV AIDS:
At the moment, there is absolutely no cure for AIDS.
Before i make analysis on this subject, i want to first of all explain some basic facts to our knowledge about this deadly phenomenon, AIDS.
Many people mistake AIDS for HIV and HIV for AIDS, they also mistake TREATMENT for CURE; perhaps this misunderstanding misled the author of this thread, Toks2008 to assume that "there has been cure for AIDS".
HIV the Human Immunodeficiency Virus, is the virus that causes AIDS if not treated. This HIV is relatively difficult to contract, and yet, it's the most dreaded, and an estimated 40 million people worldwide are confirmed positive of the virus (not to talk about the many more millions with unconfirmed cases).
There are treatments for the HIV virus, but still, no cure until today.
When HIV virus enters the blood it quickly penetrates certain white cells (called `CD4' cells or "T4 cells") in the body. The body's immune system fights back and temporally suppresses the virus which retreats until it's powerful enough to attack again.
This battle period between the body's immune system and the HIV virus usually lasts for one to four weeks during which some people may have symptoms that mimic that of mononucleosis-like symptoms.
Symptoms may include: Fever, swelling of the Lymph nodes, Headache, dry Cough, loss of Appetite, Sweating, profound and unexplained Fatigue, rapid Weight loss, Diarhea Diarrheag for over one week), and sore throat. Often times this can be mistaken as having the flu or another viral-type infection (cold virus; like fever): Some people may develop skin rashes on the chest, abdomen and/or back..
These symptoms usually persist for several days, and then, the HIV victim recovers from them and would feel and appear like any other healthy person for the period of time while the virus is gathering up for intence come-back attack. Many people don't have any symptoms at all while some have one or two which might not be obvious.
Human has an everage of 1000 CD-4 cells which is liable to reduce as the virus progresses, so, HIV patients are adviced to see a doctor for check-up every 6 months, while the cells are being monitored: A patient would only start taking HIV drugs once the cells decline to about 500.
HIV can be treated to prevent the development of AIDS or at least, to slow it down. but there is NO CURE not until today. Scientists have done so far, but not so well as to find the cure or the vaccine: the most recent hope for a breakthrough is expected in "at least, 7 to 10 years time", but still, cures are not certain.
It's important that every body should do the HIV test because, the earlier you know your positive status, the better you stand a chance to prevent it from becoming AIDS: Patience with HIV can control it's development and can live normally. Remember, once it become AIDS, it's too late, even to take the drugs: the patient with then suffer from many opportunistic ailments like tuberculosis and inflammations (a response of body tissues to irritation characterized by pain, swelling and heat): the sufferer only prays for the mercy of death.
FACT: There are treatments for HIV, but no cure for it, at least for now.
FACT: There is no (actual) treatment for AIDS and there is ABSOLUTELY NO CURE FOR AIDS
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Toks2008
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Hi,
Bro thanks for the enlightenment, i am really impressed and i am not ignorant of the explanation either.
The truth remains that we were thought the same in my university days as a microbiologist but my brother lets be very factual and practical; Wey the HIV virus? HABA i believe you are a well informed person so please i challenge you to give me a reference where this Virus has been specifically isolated with real photograph and not drawn diagrams at least we have electron microscope that can give a very clear view of the virus.
See i am not trying to start an argument on this issue and if i must tell you this, i have really come to believe that the western world are just using this propanga to rip us off in Africa as a whole that is why they claim the highest incidence of HIV is in Africa (What insolence). In short i would like you to take this to the bank I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CURED NOT TREATED BUT CONFIRMED CURE. At least been cured should mean people who were confirmed by clinical tests as been positive were later tested negative.
T o help matters, let me flow with you AIDS IS NOT CURABLE but please i beg you to look for anyone that has HIV or AIDS and e-mail me. I will tell you exactly the herbs to use and how to use them(important) then lets wait and see.
There is not yet known an infection or ailment that GOD almighty has not provided the cure through herbs. END OF DISCUSSION
Tokunbo
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OgaMadam (f)
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is it fair to touch on vulnerable people?
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Toks2008
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Hi, Please explain. I don't seem to understand you  Ola |
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reindeer
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Look, lets not fool ourselves, it exists! and this is one of those conspiracy theories that perpetuate the virus here in africa. I always have this test for those who believe it doesnt exist, since you say it doesnt then you should allow us inject you with a vial of our 'nonexstent' virus taken from the blood of an infected person, this really shouldnt be a problem since you are now even so sure you have the 'cure'. If you accept, let us know, there is not better way to convince us of the cure than to subject yourself to human testing!  chikena! |
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Toks2008
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Bro, Sorry o no insult intended but i feel your post lacks intellect because what we are talking about here is based on documented evidence of the epidemiology of HIV or AIDS. A jss1 student will understand that if you inject a lethal viral particle into a susceptible host be it human or animal, an infection is bound to occur so please lets be matured and seasoned with the contents of our post. By the way, my initial claim was not about HIV but what i am saying that AIDS(combination of different symptoms of infections that cannot be eliminated from a human host due to a compromised immune system) is curable so please lets get things straight here, AIDS could be caused by anything for all i care, but it has a cure.Simple Nevertheless i am still asking anyone to prove to me that this so called particular Human immunodeficient Virus be it type 1 or type 2 exists with real proof of isolation at any point in time. I love objectivity so please if you must counter my claim, i need references and not baseless sarcastic rhetorics. Thanks The following is a summary of what the public generally believes about AIDS today:1. AIDS is a disease arising from an infection from the virus known as HIV. 2. The virus is spread in humans either through promiscuous, unprotected homosexual sex, through sexual contact with an HIV-infected member of the opposite sex, through the sharing of intravenous drug users' contaminated needles or through contaminated blood supplies. 3. Pregnant women who test positive can pass the virus on to their unborn child 4. HIV can also be transmitted to the baby outside of the womb through breast-feeding. 5. The AIDS test is a simple and accurate method of detecting HIV. 6. In the West, HIV infection is spreading among women and heterosexual men and is increasing exponentially every year. 5. Drugs are available to treat AIDS patients but they are very expensive. A new range of anti-HIV drugs, the 'protease inhibitors', are now believed to be more effective. 6. AIDS is devastating the Third World. 7. There is currently no cure for AIDS. Unfortunately space will not permit me to write on counter evidences to the propagandas above but if you are the type who loves knowlegde, click the link below. http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/real-cause-of-aids.htmlola |
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reindeer
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Story Story!
your ideas about the cure will only promote the spread and reduce peoples caution about the disease.
I will not be drawn into word battles with a con man, tell your AIDS story to the birds. If you want to show the potency of your phoney preparations there are so many HIV/AIDS mangement centers around the country, do a trial with affected people and let there be an official document on it, because these people are down and vulnerable shouldnt make them preys for tradomedical trash, lets face it, it all comes down to money abi u go give the 1st ten people free?
there are laid out procedures for drug trials, whatever preparation you have must go through due trials and be considered safe for humans before you can make such claims.and to think you say its not aabout money
stuffs like this make me group the world into 3
1.people living with HIV/AIDS
2.people living ON HIV/AIDS
3.people who don't just give a damn
i think you want to belong in the second group.
lets grow conscience.
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OgaMadam (f)
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reindeer thats it set him straight. Thats what he needs.
Thanx.
anyways how have you been, its been a long time since i bumped into you on these forums.
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OgaMadam (f)
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@toks 2008
Hi,
Please explain. I don't seem to understand you
Ola
u can't understand cause your thick. all you have time is to take advantage of people hit with one of the hardest blows ever, and now you do this. God watches every step - i wouldnt want you to get his vengeance after you.
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OgaMadam (f)
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@toks 2008
Hi,
Please explain. I don't seem to understand you
Ola
u can't understand cause your thick. all you have time is to take advantage of people hit with one of the hardest blows ever, and now you do this. God watches every step - i wouldnt want you to get his vengeance after you.
Please change
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Frizy (m)
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Bros. I hear you. But you've not given us the name of the drug. I visited that diamond site and noticed it is all about money.  Am not disapproving you o because I also believe the virus should be curable. There was a discovery that says AIDS was a genetically engineered virus and not from the African monkeys the westerners claim it evolved. I think they wish Africans and Asians should die of it. |
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OgaMadam (f)
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If someone like him has the cure by now, why arent billions flocking to him?
Ask yourself, would there be a place were they are handing out Pounds Sterling free ever be empty. The news will spread like wildfire.
Whether they engineered it or not,
Or even that somewhere the cure is being held in US labs.
People need to work with the truth they got now instead of taking advantage of poor souls who's chances are:
1. ARVs
2. Good nutrition
3. Excercise
4. Positive living
these people's life expectancies are up to 50 years! more than enough time i would imagine for a cure to be found by then.
So please.
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Toks2008
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Hi Frizy, I was hoping that i would see an intellectual post to reply to and i believe your post is intelligent and matured enough to respond to. Thank God you logged on to my site and you never saw anything concerning Herbs or AIDS so that is to tell you i am only trying to share information with people who i thought would be objective enough to reason ans not becloud their sense of reasoning with dogmatic altitude. Have you read the refrence i gave? The truth is that in all my years in the university where i studied Virology which has a lot to do with HIV we were made to realise that HIV has not been isolated. What we were made to believe right now is that HIV causes AIDS and i am saying i do not believe and also backing it up with intelligent reasons. The main cause of AIDS is simple. A drop in your immune system and there are many factors that can cause this and what i am saying here is that there are herbs that are very effective in curing AIDS which have been administered to people that i know. When i talked about AIDS having a cure, i never cared much about the HIV propanganda because i already know the truth concerning that and i never asked anyone to give me money but some people are not just intelligent enough to read between lines and this is very pathetic therefore using names like con and thick(whatever that meant). If you want to know about the herbs, please e-mail suport@diamondfield.net and i will tell you about it. Thanks Toks |
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Toks2008
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Why, : Why can't people seek knowlegde and find understanding?  |
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reindeer
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@oga madam, nice to see you too again , been a while. It just pains me when people try to misinform the public, The quotes are so unverified, i saw the natural health site he's referring to and yes AIDS can be said to be caused by other things, The immune system can be supressed to a point where the system cannot fight for itself anymore eg with steroids and other drugs used in transplant eg the cyclosporines and other drugs even irradiation of long bones, these will also ultimately affect the CD4 and even the Killer CD8 t cells which are all important in self defence but this is not saying that the virus does not do the same thing, and theres something as convention in science, before diseases are named, they are acepted at those annual conventions and technically the immune suppression that follows HIV infection is the one commonly known as AIDS. I did not explicitly see anything on the site that says the virus doesnt exist An these herbs you keep talking about, are from where? have they been tried scientifically? and i can bet my salary, they wont be free! man, find another business, God will help you make ends meet. i'd advise our 'intellectual' here to check ROBBINS PATHOLOGIC BASIS OF DISEASES( by cotran, kumar and clark). 7th edition.there you'll see a schema of the virus.You say you are a virologist and you should know how difficult it is to isolate viruses, till a method is perfected with good yield, there may not be a gold standard. @ toks please be careful before running off with half cooked ideas that ultimately seek to make money for some people, you may be good intentioned but try and have a good understanding of the pathology of the virus and the disease before making further comments, God save the world!  |
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Toks2008
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Na Wa,
Thank GOD you are coming down and no longer attxking me. Wait; what is really happening to us Nigeriians? Some one says he knows herbs that can cause AIDS and the next thing he faces is attack and insults. Why can't this people humbling ask the simple intelligent questions like; are you sure, what are the herbs made of and so on rather than attack and bring the person down.
I say i know herbs,they say i am a con man trying to estort people. Bros look here, i am a very very financially comfortable man. I saw this section on Nairaland and decided to share this knowlegde with everyone and the next thing you guys are thinking is someone wants to con people, HABA!
I never posted my account number to anyone neither do i intend to collect a dime from anyone and you guys are already insinuating.
Okay Folks, AIDS has no cure what so ever, don't mind me, just pulling your legs.
Lets pray that one day, Oyinbo man will find a cure so till then lets keep our fingers crossed.
Bye
Toks
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reindeer
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Toks toks 2008 regardless, we appreciate the idea. This is a country where the man who walks kicks the man who has to crawl, so you can understand our indignation at such unverified claims, i personally would be interested in knowing the botanical names of the said herbs, ill surely forward it to one of the most repected proffessors of pharmacognosy in nigeria and ill sound him out, thats a promise, but i will never have anything to do with anything or anyone that may want to exploit the already burdened positive people, i look in those people's eyes and see their despair and frustrations, a cure will be welcome, only if it goes through the right channels and will not further involve more financial obligations, PLWHA deserve our love, respect and care. It also behoves the rest of us to take precautions against the infection, i have two colleagues who are curently or prophylactic antiretrovirals after pinpricks from infected people, have a great night rest nairaland.  |
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Frizy (m)
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Okay Folks, AIDS has no cure what so ever, don't mind me, just pulling your legs.
Lets pray that one day, Oyinbo man will find a cure so till then lets keep our fingers crossed.
Bye
Toks
You kidding me?Men that now looks like a scam.  |
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Tali-Tali (m)
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Dear nairaland users,
It is not bad at all if we dream with our eyes opened.
At the moment, it remains our adamant wish that this disease should gain a cure.
The moment that happen, we would have achieved something great because many of our perishing lives will not go again. Let us keep our hands together on deck and pray for something positive to happen.
Thanks and stay blessed
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lucabrasi (m)
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i wonder what kind of people we nigerians are,if this man was a white man in his fifties with a tweed coat from havard university or kings college,everybody will believe him and even give him money,i don't know jack about everything he is saying and thank GOD i don't have either hiv or aids
but he has hammered it into everyone's skulls that,
he doesnt want any money off you
he will give you the necessary drugs
bring someone who is hiv positive and the person will be curedinstead of giving him a trial you r here tryyna tear him apart and some are making comments thats not even connected to the issue at hand,what is an hiv person going to lose by trying him out?when he is not paying any money,one man said it on tv too (smthn ojei)that he ll put up ten million naira and will lose if he doesnt cure aids, so please if we don't know anyone with hiv or u don't believe don't post on the mans thread and if you do give it a trial, whats the worst that can happen?
at least theres nothing GOD created that he can't handle,remember even isaac newton got inspiration from a sinmple apple that fell on his head,
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metal_snak (m)
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really
well,
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