Why This Discrimination Between B.Sc & HND?

Please help us ask Dr Nura Yakuba why Bsc holders are employed and preferred to teach in the polytechnics to HND holders; whereas they in NBTE claim that polytechnic is a school that teaches technology. Have university graduates suddenly turn themselves into polytechnic graduates?? HND holder, answer this simple question now; between HND Mechanical engineering graduate and  BEng mechanical engineering graduate who would you prefer to teach mechanical engineering students undergoing training in the polytechnic???

Peterseri, e go better for you. You have said it all. People should be judged by their performances and not by their certificates.

Govt scraps HNDs, merges polys with varsities
From Madu Onuorah, Abuja
THE Federal Executive Council (FEC) yesterday approved a comprehensive reform of Nigeria's tertiary education system, scrapping the award of the Higher National Diploma (HND) by the nation's polytechnics.

In effect, the award of the HND will be limited to only the students currently admitted for the programmes.

Also, all the programmes currently being run by the polytechnics, which are not technology-based, and which are about 70 per cent, will be scrapped.

Under the new rule, the polytechnics will now become campuses of the proximate universities with the Vice Chancellors of those universities appointing provosts for the polytechnics, subject to the ratification of the Universities Councils.

Federal Government has abolished HND programs already and polytechnics will become campuses or colleges of science and technology to proximate universities awarding BTech Degrees in science and Technology-related courses only.

Dear friends, a country/ people that fail(S) to recognize industrialization is not really prepared to move forward. The tiger nations aren't one today but for there concentration on technology. Its wide knowledge that practical elements of a course are taught in the polytechnoques compared to what we have in the universities. this is not to say everything taught in the polytechmniques(polys) are all practical but we all know that a maority of the courses offered are done so, compared to the universities(unis).

Suffice it to say thus, that a country which wants to go forward must give credence to industrialization and technology. These is the reason for polys. thus poly graduates shld be given room to perform. Even if we have cosistent and dependable power supply / energy, good access roads, water ; without the proper technical know how, we still can't go beyod square one as a country, as we would still nid to import the technical know how which is altogether expensive.  However, with a better deal in our polys - in terms of course structures and priorities as well as infrastrucutes - neccessary ones - as well as recognition U BET THE COUNTRY SHALL MOVE FORWARD AT A HIGHER SPEED THAN IT WOULD HAVE!!!!

I am proud to say that I am a HND holder (Mechanical Engineering) with a very good job in the Oil & Gas Industry. I earn over 4.5million naira p.a.
I have just about two years working exp. but some of my collegues with B.sc/B.eng with more years working exp does not earn as much as I earn.
Its all about destiny and God's grace don't limited yourself to HND or B.sc. Believe in God and have a clear cut focus.

the role of HND holder differs from that of B Engr. While an " Engr" for e.g is into designs a 'technolgist" is into implimentation but go to our engineering firm Julius Beger, Chevron , Schlumberger and the likes the "engr" does the same job as a HND holder that goes to show that we have failed in that, ( i am not takimg side i am an"engr" mind you but the truth must be told) in these firms the design are done inside the room and most of our "engr" are not always there, they are always at the field, that should not be so.its4 the technlogists who implement. my massage is this : if there should be  discrimination then every body should do well what they outh to do and not claim lord while feeding on the others responsibility. to say the truth how many B sc holdes actually go into research. we know how they copy already-made projects and summit to their supervisours.so if they can't do common projects i sugest they should be demonted to OND holders if not lesser even

Well said bros.

Grant Polytechnics Degree Awarding Status – ASUP
From Wole Ayodele in Lokoja, 05.04.2007 http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=77176
Kogi
The Federal Polytechnic, Idah Chapter, has appealed to the Federal Government to grant degree awarding status to Polytechnics with the required infrastructures and manpower, as it is being practiced in Europe and some African countries, following scrapping of the award of Higher National Diploma (HND) Certificate by Polytechnics and the subsequent merger of some with universities for the award of Bachelor of Technology Degree, Academic Staff Union of Polytechnics (ASUP), said.
In a press release signed by Chairman of the Union, Engineer Danjuma Ocheja Attah, the Union decried the total abolition of polytechnics, and its merger with Universities, stressing that “some of the universities are not better than some polytechnics in the area of facilities.” 
According to ASUP, abolition of polytechnics will have adverse effects on the technological development of the country, noting that it is unwise for a developing country like Nigeria to do away with an institution established to play pivotal roles in its technological advancement.
Citing the example of Federal Polytechnic, Idah, which has been merged with the University of Agriculture, Makurdi, the Union emphasised that the polytechnic has more facilities and manpower that could transform it into a full-fledged University of Technology instead.
“The Federal Polytechnic, Idah, has the required infrastructure and manpower to facilitate its transformation to a full-fledged University of Technology, and one has to commend the Rector, Professor Joseph Ndanusa Egila, for his foresight and attention to the development of both academic and infrastructure, as this has placed the institution ahead of other Polytechnics in the country.”  Expressing ASUP’s displeasure, Attah said “ASUP is totally against the decision and will do its best to ensure polytechnics retain its status.”
On the running of humanity based courses by Polytechnics, the Union stated that running humanity based courses by Polytechnics has not in any way affected the main objectives for which they were established, adding that polytechnics have lived up to expectation in their core areas of mandate.

I think he must be thinking that HND holders are middle level. He did not check the HND sylabuss well that I knew better. He is his masters voice.

 “With the scrapping of HND programmes, engineering (not TECHNOLOGY) is doomed in this country because there will be scarcity of middle level manpower(SLAVES).”  this was the views of the Nigerian Society of Engineers on recent scrapping of Higher National Diploma programmes and polytechnics education by the Federal Government.
The American Model designates holders of the 4-yr engineering technology program (BS ET) as Engineers, the same way as the holder of the HND or CNAA degree is in the British system, Why this so much resistance by NSE to accepting  HND holder in Nigeria? NSE kill HND in Nigeria not the Federal Government

you people should challenge NSE. Anyway i thank God sef say our government do not even believe in nigerian engineers; no wonder dey give out the contracts and jobs to foreign firms and engineers.

Polytechnic graduates are far better in Engineering Technology; i wonder if NSE and government know what they are doing!!

I respect NSE because I am a member. The Technologist should be given a level ground to play.

Thank you, May be because I am an HND holder before other qualification. I knew NSE as MAFIA. They only carry out to the letter what the Government policy dectates. It is better that we  speak out.