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Hnd-holder (m)
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south african experience. http://www.ecsa.co.za/List of Technikon Accredited Programmes National Diploma Programmes meeting the Educational Requirements towards Registration as Professional Engineering Technician and Masters Diploma in Technology offered up to 1996 and Bachelor of Technology Degree Programmes meeting the Educational Requirements towards Registration as Professional Engineering Technologist Vision South Africa enjoys all the benefits of a strong, competent, growing, sustainable and representative engineering profession, able to provide all the expertise necessary for the socio-economic needs of the country and exerts a positive influence in the Southern African region. Mission To create the circumstances in which society is confident that the engineering profession in South African is able to carry out the functions necessary for the social-economic growth in the country through: Setting and monitoring internationally accepted standards. Assessing the competence of individuals (registration) Growing the profession (quantity and quality) Communicating with professionals and other stakeholders. Validity dates for Accreditation apply to the year in which the student completes the Programme. Council has a separate practical experience requirement for registration as Professional Engineering Technician as well as Professional Engineering Technologist. Council started with Accreditation of Technikon Qualifications in 1991. The programme descriptions for the T study system: National Diploma (Discipline) in Engineering. Programme description of the S study system: National Diploma: Engineering: (Discipline). BTech is a four-year programme commencing with the first year of National Diploma. |
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ishmael (m)
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@Hnd-holder
In the UK they look down at HND certificate because they spend just 2 years to acquire it without carrying out a research project, while Bsc guys spend 3 years and carry out a research project. Can't somebody explain to Nigerians that HND in nigeria requires you to spend atleast 5 years and you must carryout research projects after your first 2 years (ND) and in your final year HNDII?? HND certificate is equivalent to a Degree in Nigeria but because of it's irrelevance in the UK nigerians started looking down at it here too.
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Hnd-holder (m)
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The UK DIPLOMA is Equal To Nigerian WASC While their HND is Lower in content and contact hour
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ishmael (m)
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The UK DIPLOMA is Equal To Nigerian WASC While their HND is Lower in content and contact hour
Very low honestly. i doubt if it's up to 120 credit hours sef. |
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Hnd-holder (m)
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ANS THAT IS Why This Discrimination Between B.Sc & HND. Nigerian HND is equal or more than bachelor degrees
B.Tech,
BSc
B.Eng etc
Confusion in the house
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ishmael (m)
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But will they agree?? They hate the name HND and they look at it the same way British look at their HND now; you know UK HND is less than a Bachelor's Degree.
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Hnd-holder (m)
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That is why we want HND dead in Nigeria
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ishmael (m)
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That is why we want HND dead in Nigeria
Honestly you are very correct. Let HND die, but let the polytechnics continue to exist and let everybody go for Bsc or BTech. Nigerians and employers in Nigeria hate that name HND. |
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Hnd-holder (m)
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Unless you call it polytechnic university. Nigerian hates Polytechnic they call it senior Technical college. So let the Polytechnic die too.
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ishmael (m)
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Unless you call it polytechnic university. Nigerian hates Polytechnic they call it senior Technical college. So let the Polytechnic die too.
yes you are right. Let them convert polytechnics to polytechnic universities, that is when Nigerians will appreciate anything that comes out of there. |
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Hnd-holder (m)
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Because of the polyechnic's practical skill
that is one of the reason they hate the HND.
So that degree holders can come and do the practical work,
How many houses collapse last week? They are the work of degree holders
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ishmael (m)
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Because of the polyechnic's practical skill
that is one of the reason they hate the HND.
So that degree holders can come and do the practical work,
How many houses collapse last week? They are the work of degree holders
You are correct. But Nigerians may begin to look at it that it is the handi work of polytechnic graduates, trust Nigerians; any thing bad goes to polytechnics and their HND graduates. |
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Hnd-holder (m)
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HND holders need not trade words with them. GRADUATES they call themselves but are they not full of empty pride? Why are they not Talking again. WE HND HOLDERS has won.
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radeniran (m)
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Ismaheal Hnd Holder
To be candid with ourself do you think changing polytechnics to university really worth it with the level of some of our polytechnics in Nigeria. I had the opportunity to visit several polytechnic in Nigeria they are not well funded and their infrastructures are nothing to talk about
I am of the Opinion that some selected Polytechnic should be allowed to award BTech
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Hnd-holder (m)
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Thank you. some Universities do not merit a University. Do you know that some Federal university loan equipment from some polytechnic to meet NUC accreditations? Only two polytechnics had the privilege of the word change.
What is on the ground is cancellation of HND or let near-by University with adequate staff and tools take over the Former HND to be known as B.Tech. Majority of the University too are poorly funded. No university in Nigeria met the world rating.
We do not want HND in Nigeria because Nigerian hate Polytechnic and HND
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radeniran (m)
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What is your own opinion as regard the Changing only 2 polytechnic in the counytry to University do u think it solve the desrimination?
I think all Polytechnic in the country should be re-accredited based on the new NBTE or NUC standard successful polytechnic will then be allowed to award BTech or converted to University
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radeniran (m)
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Some courses got to be scrapped from the polytechnic like Legal Studies etc because the schools that offer such courses lack what it takes to offer such courses. If UI LASU and the likes can be stopped by NUC to produce graduate from their LAW faculty with their long standing history and pedigree in the education industry how much more glorified technical schools
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Hnd-holder (m)
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What is your own opinion as regard the Changing only 2 polytechnic in the counytry to University do u think it solve the desrimination?
My opinion is that some state own Polytechnic like Calabar Polytechnic Now University of Science and Technology will follow. We need the middle level man power and that is the ND not HND so More ND graduates are needed. Now non everybody want HND or Bsc. So The HND was treated as the middle level. Once we have those universities in place the two City Universities will provide research level up to PhD for the HND and the New B.Tech. |
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Hnd-holder (m)
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I think all Polytechnic in the country should be re-accredited based on the new NBTE or NUC standard successful polytechnic will then be allowed to award BTech or converted to University
What ever, those that brought Polytechnics converted them to University. Harvard was a polytechnics. There will be no more polytechnic but University college of Technology for ND only. Some courses got to be scrapped from the polytechnic like Legal Studies etc because the schools that offer such courses lack what it takes to offer such courses. If UI LASU and the likes can be stopped by NUC to produce graduate from their LAW faculty with their long standing history and pedigree in the education industry how much more glorified technical schools
It was further cleared that all those art course will not be in the New college of Technology I attended the "GLORIFIED TECHNICAL SCHOOL" call polytechnic now a superior to those who attended the "almighty" University. Do not throw the baby with the water. It is not the school but the person. Remember those with legal studies do not grow to be a lawyer. It is a way of fund raising in those school by running course with strange names. Of what use is legal studies or public admin in POLYTECHNICS? |
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radeniran (m)
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What about The Polytechnic Ibadan, The Polytechnic Auchi, and some other old Polytechnics in the country do u mean they will still remain as polytechnic because they are state owned.
I think the State Government should start to upgrade their polytechnics to university with the level of inconsistency in the federal govt decisions about the HND BSC descrimination
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radeniran (m)
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I attended a Polytechnic too but i want us to objective with our argument about scrapping Polytechnic dont we need Technical education in this country again or what?
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Hnd-holder (m)
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But we have Technical colleges awarding Diploma like the oversea High school. Our own National Diploma is what British Branded as HND. Nigerian HND has too much contact hours and work load to be called Middle level. I attended a Polytechnic too but i want us to objective with our argument about scrapping Polytechnic don't we need Technical education in this country again or what?
so the polytechnic is not a technical school. |
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radeniran (m)
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It was further cleared that all those art course will not be in the New college of Technology
There are some courses like Marketing Purchasing and Supply etc been offered in this "glorified technical schools"  the number of gradute been turned out in the polys are large and i think about 2-5 universities offer this courses presently in nigeria what will happen to the industry that requires all this skills are they going to continue to put square peg in a round hole. Where Mechanical Engr work in the Banking Hall wasting all the knowledge he/she used the whole 5yrs to acquire to count money as tellers Govt should take time to consider their stand about technical education in the country technocrats should be allowed to look into this issue critically and not mediocres that are after what the Govt want to give as allowances for confusing us |
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Hnd-holder (m)
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Our association was involved in this at the beginig. NATE the only HND holder oganized body.
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ishmael (m)
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The discrimination against polytechnic graduates has been laid to rest in peace now that the Federal Government has reversed the proposed merger of polytechnics with universities. FG also want polytechnics to run MTech and PhD degrees. Polytechnic lecturers will now have 65 years as their retiring age like their university counterparts. Yar'adua is really an educationist.
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Hnd-holder (m)
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Hey Great, Please let have your source. Regards
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ishmael (m)
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i told u i read it on Daily trust newspaper wednesday 27/06/2007. The news is on page 3. Try and get d paper you will see it.
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ishmael (m)
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@HND-holder
have you seen the newspaper??
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Hnd-holder (m)
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NO I want details of the story. Regards
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ishmael (m)
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@HND-holder
very soon the real thing will come out; we will know whether FG is decieving ASUP or not.
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Hnd-holder (m)
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Polytechnic staff and Graduates needs value that is my own.
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