|
sheniqua
|
Most women who left their men are unharmed.Simply pasting isolated cases doesn't alter the fundamental point-women should pack up and leave from abusive relationships instead of grinning and bearing it. They would leave if only they could come live with you and you'll provide accomodation and food until they found a job
|
|
|
|
|
|
tboy1 (m)
|
@sheniqua
Most of those women in the NYT story are women who decided to stay and endure the abuse.You are much safer leaving than staying and hoping your man will change.Another good reason to pick up and leave.
not really- did you not hear of the one that happened in uk either this week or last week. she left him and pressed charges, he was arrested and he got bail, from the police statioon the guy went straight to where she was and killed his wife - he's on the run now
|
|
|
|
|
|
4 Him (m)
|
tboy i have a question - why are all the women you know in abusive relationships? 
|
|
|
|
|
|
Busta (f)
|
But really, I don’t understand why a girl with stay with an abusive husband or boyfriend.
There is also this girl I work with from the Middle East, Afghanistan to be precise. Everyday she comes to work with black eye, busted lip, swollen face and all that. Everyone knows that her husband monitors her. There is even this day that I posted a group picture we took together at work on facebook and it was like we were all hugging each other. 5mins after posting that picture, she called me immediately begging me to please delete it because he monitors her facebook page and would be mad at her for taking a pic like that.
Anways…one day after work…we were walking out of the office building and her husband came from no where, grabbed her arm and started raining curses at her that she was sleeping with that guy, (Pointing at one of our male co-workers) U all need to see the way he pushed her into the car and drove off. The next day she came to work and all her face was swollen from beatings. The guy started calling the office and she would not pick up…, would u guys believe that he came towards the office window with some stupid flowers and was just screaming her name and begging her for forgiveness. When she didn’t answer him….he had the guts to come into the building shouting that he would kill her at home if she doesn’t come downstairs now…it was real drama oh. The 2 security guys could not stop this guy from entering the building….trust oyinbo people now, one amebo don call police…3 seconds later, the place was flooded with cops…they held the guy down and cuffed him. The stupid girl came downstairs and was begging and crying that they should release her husband, they asked her if he ever raised his hands on her…she said, no he didn’t do it and he never did and all of us were standing there looking so shocked.
Cut long story short, he was restricted to coming within 50ft of our office building. He has no job, she’s the one working and paying all the bills. She is now 6months preggers for this same husband of hers and her bruises are endless even as she carry belle.
Still beats me till today why a girl with remain with a guy like that???
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
sheniqua
|
a woman who stays home and raises her kids while the husband works,where would she leave to would you provide transportation and a place of abode?
|
|
|
|
|
|
D-reloaded (f)
|
not really- did you not hear of the one that happened in uk either this week or last week. she left him and pressed charges, he was arrested and he got bail, from the police statioon the guy went straight to where she was and killed his wife - he's on the run now
Probably 4Play
|
|
|
|
|
|
jennykadry (f)
|
Posted by: Busta But really, I don’t understand why a girl with stay with an abusive husband or boyfriend.
them say love is blind 
|
|
|
|
|
|
4 Play (m)
|
not really- did you not hear of the one that happened in uk either this week or last week. she left him and pressed charges, he was arrested and he got bail, from the police statioon the guy went straight to where she was and killed his wife - he's on the run now
Nopeactually,what I heard yesterday was about the woman who tried to strangle her husband who was crippled with arthritis.She said she couldn't cope with living with a crippled man and tried to kill him many times,including bashing him on the head repeatedly with a stick before trying to drown him. These are still isolated cases.Women face greater physical danger by staying than leaving.
|
|
|
|
|
|
debosky (m)
|
@ Busta why are you asking 4Play 'what did you do?' ? Isn't that the same question D-R say some men ask when they hear about a woman beaten by a man? Like babyO said, this issue cannot be easily generalized - some men will beat a woman regardless of whether she does anything wrong - the truth is, in their heads, she will ALWAYS do something to warrant the beating. In other cases, the woman may do something to infuriate the man or make him angry, but poor anger management results in this manifesting as beating. Now this is NOT justifying anything, ANY form of physical violence (except corrective beating/spanking administered to children in a loving manner) is WRONG Finally I take exception to this statement Osisi 'all men are pre-disposed to physical abuse'  Where did you get that from? I have argued endlessly with my male and female friends to the point people thought we would soon start slapping each other and it has never led to that. Where are you getting your idea of pre-disposition from? I take serious exception to that notion that all men are predisposed to beating. Its like saying all women are predisposed to being rude insulting, denigrating and provoking hence leading to beatings - how would you like that?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
tboy1 (m)
|
Nopeactually,what I heard yesterday was about the woman who tried to strangle her husband who was crippled with arthritis.She said she couldn't cope with living with a crippled man and tried to kill him many times,including bashing him on the head repeatedly with a stick before trying to drown him. These are still isolated cases.Women face greater physical danger by staying than leaving.
what are you talking about? did she not leave her husband?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Busta (f)
|
The worst is beating a pregnant woman. The person is carrying YOUR CHILD, and u still hit her?
|
|
|
|
|
|
sheniqua
|
@ Busta why are you asking 4Play 'what did you do?' ? Isn't that the same question D-R say some men ask when they hear about a woman beaten by a man? Like babyO said, this issue cannot be easily generalized - some men will beat a woman regardless of whether she does anything wrong - the truth is, in their heads, she will ALWAYS do something to warrant the beating. In other cases, the woman may do something to infuriate the man or make him angry, but poor anger management results in this manifesting as beating. Now this is NOT justifying anything, ANY form of physical violence (except corrective beating/spanking administered to children in a loving manner) is WRONG Finally I take exception to this statement Osisi 'all men are pre-disposed to physical abuse'  Where did you get that from? I have argued endlessly with my male and female friends to the point people thought we would soon start slapping each other and it has never led to that. Where are you getting your idea of pre-disposition from? I take serious exception to that notion that all men are predisposed to beating. Its like saying all women are predisposed to being rude insulting, denigrating and provoking hence leading to beatings - how would you like that? If 60 percent of women who are murdered are murdered by their husbands or lovers,some even after they've fled and almost the other 40% are in the hands of other men. And most men even in this discussion find it necessary to lay the blame on the woman,I have no choice but make that assertion that all men are prone to abuse But remember that I added that self control plays a part in whether they carry it out or not.please don't be offended. You have made more sense than most other men in this discussion.
|
|
|
|
|
|
4 Play (m)
|
what are you talking about? did she not leave her husband?
Yesbut there are literally millions of women who left their husband and have never been harmed and many who won't be alive today if they stayed. You are talking as if most or many women who leave get killed.That nonsense.Lives are better saved by leaving than staying.
|
|
|
|
|
|
jennykadry (f)
|
not really only about 4 or 5 of them, u want another story buhehehehehe undertaker's story roflmao
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
sheniqua
|
Yesbut there are literally millions of women who left their husband and have never been harmed and many who won't be alive today if they stayed.
You are talking as if most or many women who leave get killed.That nonsense.Lives are better saved by leaving than staying.
YOu keep going round in circles,leave to where? Do you know there are people who have nowhere to go
|
|
|
|
|
|
4 Play (m)
|
YOu keep going round in circles,leave to where? Do you know there are people who have nowhere to go
So the Londoner didn't have anywhere to go?
|
|
|
|
|
|
sheniqua
|
Yes. . .but there are literally millions of women who left their husband and have never been harmed and many who won't be alive today if they stayed.
You are talking as if most or many women who leave get killed.That nonsense.Lives are better saved by leaving than staying.
yes and there are millions who left are are in hiding and bondage the rest of their lives. The focus should be why do men abuse women.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
sheniqua
|
Saying an abusive woman should leave and the problem is solved is as good as saying you put a bandage on a festering ulcer and it heals when there are other bullae about to burst open to more ulcers. The underlying question should be why there are multiple ulcers in the first place.
|
|
|
|
|
|
debosky (m)
|
@ Osisi
I don't take that self control 'excuse' at all. Would you accept that ALL women are predisposed to being rude, insulting, trifling, and completely irresponsible but exercise self control? Or If I say women are basically stupid because they get cheated on by men but some of them exercise self control and use their brains?
You can quote whatever statistics you want - it doesn't mean it applies to all men.
Wife beating and spousal violence in general is wrong, but now beginning to add a 'pre-disposed' aspect to it is completely unacceptable.
While we are trying to find out why men abuse women, lets not get caught up and over-generalize.
|
|
|
|
|
|
4 Play (m)
|
@Debosky
Did I not suggest that Sheniqua was more interested in male-bashing than in physical abuse per se? When I mentioned the physical abuse meted out by women,she became annoyed.
|
|
|
|
|
|
tboy1 (m)
|
hahahahaha  - i was chicken in the other one oo I ran away from her when i found out she was leaving in a hostel because she was hiding from her husband who woke her up with a knife and tried to kill her. Till today she still calls me and i'm still running. I can't be hulk hogan in that one because the guy is confirmed killer and would not hesitate to finish me if he finds me on top of his wife  - i'm still running till today
|
|
|
|
|
|
sheniqua
|
@ Osisi
I don't take that self control 'excuse' at all. Would you accept that ALL women are predisposed to being rude, insulting, trifling, and completely irresponsible but exercise self control? Or If I say women are basically stupid because they get cheated on by men but some of them exercise self control and use their brains?
You can quote whatever statistics you want - it doesn't mean it applies to all men.
Wife beating and spousal violence in general is wrong, but now beginning to add a 'pre-disposed' aspect to it is completely unacceptable.
While we are trying to find out why men abuse women, lets not get caught up and over-generalize.
I'm sure you've heard of androgenic hormones like tesosterone That is the reason men are more aggressive than women. Most violence is done by men despite the fact that women out number men This is not my statistics even cases of ADD, mental illnesses,alcoholisms,predilection to addictive behaviours are more common in males most thieves,robbers,killers,rapists and abusers are men Have you wondered why? men are wired differently. I am in no way bashing men,I'm just stating a fact which we all know.
|
|
|
|
|
|
4 Him (m)
|
tboy1 defender of the spineless females.  A man beats you and you remain with him then perhaps you like the constant flogging. By all means stay there.
|
|
|
|
|
|
4 Him (m)
|
Sheniqua is busy quoting statistics . . . if only it would save those who have been dispatched to the great beyond for closing their mouths when the blows were raining down.
Anyone, we'll just keep filing the stats away in our register. Anyone else being flogged constantly at home?
|
|
|
|
|
|
4 Play (m)
|
tboy1 defender of the spineless females.  A man beats you and you remain with him then perhaps you like the constant flogging. By all means stay there. Nothey are staying because they want a roof over their head and money for food.Nice trade off. . .beatings for accommodation. How can someone living in the West stay with a man because of food and accommodation.Some women simply need to demonstrate some courage.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
sheniqua
|
Sheniqua is busy quoting statistics . . . if only it would save those who have been dispatched to the great beyond for closing their mouths when the blows were raining down.
Anyone, we'll just keep filing the stats away in our register. Anyone else being flogged constantly at home?
I'm in no way advocating an abused woman should stay I have a career I would leave. But it's not as easy for others as some of you may think. It's especially harder even in our societies where the only place she may be leaving to is to her parent's see me I see you and they may not even want her there
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|