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bolex (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #32 on: June 05, 2006, 01:10 PM »

***raises up his hands***

O LORD , LET THY WILL BE DONE

Do you think airplane and cars can be compared to invisibllity ?

huh ?

dakmanzero (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #33 on: June 05, 2006, 01:24 PM »

yes.

remember the words of arthur c clarke.

any sufficently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

the only reason you are talking like this is because you were born into a world where cars and planes already exist. They are very, very recent, and when they were new, people like you called it challenging God.

in the future, when invisibility is so commonplace it is no longer a big deal, Bolex jnr will lament about how teleportation is challenging God, and how invisibility does not compare!
mrmayor (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #34 on: June 05, 2006, 03:07 PM »

Bolex,

Let me break this down for you,scientist spend a lot of time coming up with crazy ideas and engineers come up with how to implement those ideas.
From Newton to Einstein their ideas are still in use today.Many scientist have theorized the possibility of Time Travel and their loads of engineers
working with scientist to make this a reality.
Think about it we can travel back in time and see who ate the apple in the garden of Edenand if possible prevent it,find out who was Cains wife,the Flood etc wouldn't
that be great thing.We can also stop all the wars that has claimed millions of life and kill off bad people like Hitler.
You are right if i was aborted i would be here typing,if Hitler,Saddam,Idi Amin,Stalin,Bin laden and don't forget our very own Abacha were all
aborted the world would a much happier place.
I guese that would be trying God,or then again it wouldn't be if lest say you lost a family member in Sosoliso crash.
bolex (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #35 on: June 05, 2006, 04:30 PM »

am sure 1 day . . . scientists would come up withe idea of a TIME MACHINE

people like mr. mayor , zahy & darkmanzero would think it's time to develop new technology

wahala never start

e just dey begin
mrmayor (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #36 on: June 05, 2006, 05:34 PM »

Bro Bolex,
The question still remains if a Time Machine becomes a reality wouldn't that solve most of the religious strive in the world,at lest we would know for sure if.
world was created in 6 days
Mohammad was a terrorist or a prophet
we can go into future and get the cure for all deceases or better still go back in time and prevent it
if Jesus was the son of God.
The fact is that technology offers possibilities,the fundamental difference between Africa and the rest of the world is the investment these developed countries have spent in science and engineering and not if they pray VIOLENT PRAYERS,SPEAKING IN TONGUES AND COLLECTING TITHES.
Bolex you are smart man and must now know that science remains objective,if it can be proven then it can be done.
You can be true to your profession if you know that you travel instantly from one point of the globe to another just because it was no ordained by God.
bolex (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #37 on: June 05, 2006, 05:35 PM »

haha

as I said

wahala just start

na craze worl we dey

Huh
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #38 on: June 05, 2006, 05:38 PM »

Bolex, remember the church leaders can be very stupid too. Galileo was imprisoned for saying everything in the Solar System revolves around the sun. The church said that was blasphemy because they argued that the Earth was the cntre of all creation and everything revolved around it.
mrmayor (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #39 on: June 05, 2006, 05:39 PM »

Wahala nefer stat,wetin dey for oyibo land be forward ever backward nefer  Wink
bolex (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #40 on: June 05, 2006, 05:42 PM »

Zahy . . . Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

stop am o
tianshie (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #41 on: June 10, 2006, 09:19 PM »

Well isn't this the stuff of H.G.Wells?(Remember The Invisible Man). I don't see anything wrong in making objects invisible if it will work. The rapper Nas said "People fear what they don't understand" well, here's the theory again. Men scoffing at new inventions.I'm laughing at you now and many years from now if this becomes a reality,men will laugh at people like bolex who went 'oh my god!'at this.
Na wetin una dey fear sef?
kambo (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #42 on: July 20, 2006, 07:10 PM »

this is my take,
yes its amazing that invisibility can be created in this age, in our life time. its mind boggling,
but theres an edge we aint seeing, the scientific processes all boils down to a pile of logic.
and i know there is a realm of knowledge higher than logic,
if u gat a religion then u possibly  believe in a God who operates in a realm above the logical,
i don't think this suprises God,kind of like seeing your kid make an interesting lego construction,
but what's going to be end of all these for man, with clever tweaks of knowledge and logic,
wont man,who is already - esp in advanced countries- feel so bloated with ego and self
confidence in his mental ability , challenge the very existence and capability of God?!!
it is all very interesting.
but with more intellectual advancement,more display of knowledge, man will further  question the existence,potency and reality and need for 'a God' this will lead him to brashly contemn the idea of life controlled by a Divinity ,and maybe instigate a forceful push to purge society of that medieval lees of thinking .This is  what i think  certain types of  advancements in science and technology  may do the humanity's psyche.- forgive me if it sounds so negative(man is inherently flawed
and it would be good to point out potential side effect of his designs)
Cactus (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #43 on: July 23, 2006, 06:00 AM »

good job kambo that was a good logical reasoning. Well, if everyone assumed same beliefs, lifestyle, and performed similar activities, then the world we live in will pretty much be monotonous. Little/no or extreme advancements will be made since we shall all be on relatively similar wavelengths. No airplanes, ships, internet, computers, IPOD (lol) etc or teleportation, time travel, invincibility, extreme nanotech applications.

For those who see the possibility of attaining a state of invincibility we do acknowledge the fact that science and technology is rapidly changing, things thought of as improbably are now feasible. Not everyone in this world will be as objective to the idea of people turning objects/themselves invincinble. In my opinion, people assume in their respective religions that certain things in life should not be interfered with. The existence of a supreme being according to your individual beliefs has given us the knowledge and intellect to make things possible. we humans are the ones that decided/assumed certain things need not be done. Why do people accept the cloning of animals and do not accept the cloning of humans, animals are also living beings, is it just that they do not behave as human do and we all deem it as acceptable? if so then cultures/traditions do differ from place to play, we don't all act the same and live the same.

In regards to teleportation and time travel. Teleportation for inanimate object could be possible but for animate in my present opinion its never going to happen but as new development come into existence, I may change my opinion (Bayes Theory, by Thomas Bayes -  we do hold expectation about what could happen, probably happen or may not happen, however, on getting/observing new information to effectively attain the best outcome, our expectation,opinions etc need to be revised). Time travel don't even know what to say about that.

At this moment for those believe it is impossible for us to make objects invincible, hopefully as years go by they may begin to assume differently
an0n
Let's Go Deeper...
« #44 on: August 10, 2006, 02:38 AM »

Hi Bolex, I completely agree with you.

There is scientific/technological advancement to raise the living standard of humans; then there are discoveries such as this where the bad most likely will outweigh the good when it comes to implementation.  I.E., nuclear bombs.  We live in a world were there is an imminent threat of a Nuclear Winter occurring:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter


"In the 1980s, scientists assessed the possible effects of nuclear warfare (many nuclear bombs exploding in different parts of the world) and proposed the theory that a nuclear winter could occur. In the nuclear-winter scenario, the explosion of many bombs would raise great clouds of dust and radioactive material that would travel high into Earth's atmosphere. These clouds would block out sunlight. The reduced level of sunlight would lower the surface temperature of the planet and reduce photosynthesis by plants and bacteria. The reduction in photosynthesis would disrupt the food chain, causing mass extinction of life (including humans)."   (http://science.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-bomb2.htm)

I believe one day the Western world, if UNCHECKED, will come to the point where they jeopardize, (quite literally, and more so than now), all of the human race and possibly will send us ALL back to the Dark Ages.  I was born and raised in the states but I'll tell you that the wisdom that comes from the African continent must be the saving grace of this World.  Life began where you are, thus people have had a long time to let their wisdom incubate.  There are some younger societies that don't understand what "Going too far" means.  I know that the wise will read these words and it will register.  Others might respond and think that this discussion ends with this forum, No.  It does not.  As a part of a macro-conscience, you must think this through past the education you have received in books.  You must also acknowledge the spiritual implications of this matter.  Most importantly, before having an opinion,  hear the pros and cons, then write them down on paper yourself.  Go through deep analysis, and ask yourself: "Does the Good outweigh the bad, or does the Bad outweigh the good?"


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Cactus (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #45 on: August 10, 2006, 05:34 AM »

Not sure if the previous posts belongs to this thread but hey who cares whatever.

Recently circulating in the news and online is the issue of invisibility read along on CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/08/09/feature.invisibility/index.html

finally what I have being waiting for
an0n
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #46 on: August 10, 2006, 09:42 PM »

Hello Cactus,

I was vague in my previous post, but I can't write a novel here, so I put that out there as page one of the Introduction to introduce my thoughts into the conversation.  I tend to gravitate toward practicality,  In other words, why would something be useful to humanity, and again, would this thing cause more grief than good?  That being said, the human mind is not containable, but we must also keep ethics in mind.  Where do you draw the line when it comes to science's ethical bounboundarieso you believe that humanity should limit itself in regards to particular areas of discovery?  I do.  Do we not limit ourselves when it comes to social structures, for instance family?  There are certain boundaries in playing a part in the family structure, and if one ventures past those boundaries the results can be detrimental.  Breaking those ethical boundriesboundaries can lead to disrespect of elders, out of wed-lock interactions, incest, and abuse of all forms which then usually lead to the disintegration of that particular family.  If observed by others this can lead to a community-wide epidemic.  In regards to this topic, making things invisible: sure, at first the notion seems harmless.  Imagine all the horrible things that can be done by an invisible man.  He is free to rape, rob, murder potentially without being caught.  Now, let's take the evil an individual can do with this technology and multiply it by millions; this will give you an idea of all the ill deeds military forces around the world can carry out, without having to answer to anyone.  Look at the war between the West and the Middle East.  Does the US. care about the opinions of the You.N.?  We went to war even without full approval.  There are HUGE human rights being violated now, because some societies are geared towards violent tendencies.  People don't have the right control of their emotions to be handed such technology. 

***However*** in regards to this particular technology, the question is not whether anymore, it's when.

More precisely, when will Optical Camouflage or other Invisibility Technologies be perfected:

The University of Tokyo has made an Invisibility cloak (Please See Photo):  http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/oc.html

These guys are using a projector and a mirror to reflect an image that is behind someone onto their front, and the reflective material just reflects that image back to the observer.   Now, adding the concept of triangulation, (you know, like how GPS systems work with multiple satellites sending their signals to one receiver, allowing it to determine its position: http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gps.htm ), we can deduct that by using small mirrors, projectors and reflective material at different angles we can project a complete 3D image thus making all sides of an object appear invisible.  Now Tokyo has only done the 2D aspect.

Are there any Nigerian labs working on such concepts that anyone knows of?  Cactus, I also love exploring these ideas, but like Bolex, I keep precaution ever present.



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LoverBwoy (m)
Re: Scientists Think They Can Make Objects Invisible
« #47 on: August 11, 2006, 01:33 AM »

he he interesting

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