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willyede (m)
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I have a cousin and he wants to go for his masters abroad i.e in england and he has no idea on the school he should put in because they keep asking for second class (upper) of which he graduated from university of benin with a second class (lower) in accounting.would love to go for masters in finance.Any help on schools to choose please feel free to share with me here.thanks
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willyede (m)
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@brownbonno
The site u gave me is not vivid enough although i appreciate the info but can u plz explain or give me a little breahdown.thanks a lot
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ama27 (f)
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@willyede For ur cousin he needs to be sure that he doesnt just jump at the first UK school he finds that does a masters in finance. is he sure he wants to even do finance? what sort of job market does he want to end up in? from there he can trace his steps and find the right course You said he studied Accounting, is he no longer intrested in acct, if he is then his best bet is not finance.
I know this because i have got a masters in finance from a UK university and i have good knowledge of the market
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Sagamite (m)
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willyede, here is my advice.
The only reasons your cousin should elect to go to Southampton Solent University for his Masters are:
1) He has no intention, upon graduation, of getting a reputable Finance professional job in the UK. He plans to go back to Nigeria immediately.
2) He has no fire in his belly and is not a go-getter. He is more comfortable with getting by.
3) He does not have adequate financial backing and has someone in Southampton he can squat with for free and avoid accommodation cost.
4) He has a job waiting for him in Nigeria and just needs this foreign degree as a gloss over his qualifications.
5) Nigerian firms don't give a toss about the reputation of the university one attends as long as it is "abroad".
The reason I am saying this is that, in my opinion, if British universities' quality is scaled down to map one-to-one with Nigerian universities where:
UI is Cambridge OAU is Oxford UniLag Imperial ABU is LSE etc
The Southampton Solent University would be Nassarawa State College of Education.
London Met is more like Usman Danfodio University, hence it is better than Solent but not a reputable place to study Finance.
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ama27 (f)
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@Sagamite i don't agree with u, working in the uk is really not about where u went to school. its about how u can sell yourself and i don't think Nigerian Universities can even be compared to ANY UK university (ive been to both so i can say) Alot of graduates in Nigeria cannot compete on a global platform if they rely on what they are taught in Nigerian Universities
How does your advice help this bloke?
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willyede (m)
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thanks u all for the advice.he would love to diversify i.e he does not want to be constained in accounting alone if you know what i mean.right now we are confused cause we wanted to put in for LONDONMET but with this info now i don't know what to do.thanks once again for this great piece of info.
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Sagamite (m)
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@Sagamite i don't agree with u, working in the uk is really not about where u went to school. ama27, com' on, what are you talking about? So how come 90% of the graduate on training schemes in Investment Banks, Gold Circle Law firms, Management Consultancies and FTSE 100 firms are from the top 20 universities? Coincidence? Or Elitism? How come they only go to recruitment fairs in some of these Top 20 universities to recruit and advertise their firm? Coincidence? You still stand by your assertion that the school one goes to does not matter? You want to tell me that someone with a 2.1 from University of Luton has a chance against someone with a 2.2 from LSE not to even talk of Cambridge or Oxford? Don't give people advise that might negatively impact their lives. There is nowhere in the world you would go that you can say "it does not matter what school you go to". I know a lot of acquintances that were making such a comment in College, went to places like Sheffield Hallam University and are regretting it now. Even in Nigeria UI is different from University of Uyo, talkless of Plateau State University. Saying otherwise is just poor judgement. This is similar to the same mentality people have in Nigeria when choosing higher institutions by saying "there is no difference between a BSc and a HND". When they graduate, the difference would knock the breath out of them. Go to websites of the top firms in the fields above and tell me what proportion come from Liverpool John Hope University, University of Bournemouth and the likes. Its like telling me there is no difference in being in the youth academy of Manchester United or that of Brentford FC. its about how u can sell yourself and i don't think Nigerian Universities can even be compared to ANY UK university (ive been to both so i can say) Alot of graduates in Nigeria cannot compete on a global platform if they rely on what they are taught in Nigerian Universities
How does your advice help this bloke?
Obviously it is important to be able to sell yourself (even if you have stellar academics). But your choice of university is part of selling yourself, it shows your judgement. And if you choose Southampton Solent when you have a chance to go to a better institution, then you would have to sell Kazakhstan first before you would be able to sell yourself to any institution in the fields I mentioned above. Quick question, how well did you sell yourself in the UK before you got your UK university degree? Did the fact that the school you went to was in Nigeria not kill your chances before you got the UK school gloss? And if you read my earlier contribution, you will see that I said "is scaled down to map one-to-one". This is fictitious scenario development of unlike entities hence I am not comparing UK universities to Nigerian universities.
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Sagamite (m)
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thanks u all for the advice.he would love to diversify i.e he does not want to be constained in accounting alone if you know what i mean.right now we are confused cause we wanted to put in for LONDONMET but with this info now i don't know what to do.thanks once again for this great piece of info.
Hey, willyede, don't give up. What I am advising you is that you should select the best school based on the constraints (financial, academic history etc) restricting your cousin and his aspiration NOT to give up. Getting a degree from a majority of UK institution can only, often than not, benefit his profile. I just wanted you to be aware of the dichotomy in the reputation of institutions. If your cousin wants to come here, study and go back to Nigeria then the university reputation importance diminishes. My point is, if he can get into LONDONMET (below average), why go to Southampton Solent (Poor)? LONDONMET has some decent departments which includes its finance department. Also, if you go there and top your class and you can sell yourself, then your chances improve greatly in getting great jobs. My point is, if you go to LSE and you are average, you are still in with a good chance for top jobs and great chance for average jobs. If you go to LONDONMET and you are average, your chances FOR TOP JOBS are below average but you will still be employable. If you go to Solent, get ready to rough it out in one-man businesses of less than 50 employees or some low paid public sector work (not the high paying ones).
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ama27 (f)
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'is really not about where u went to school. its about how u can sell yourself' my emphasis being on really not , so in other words its not a hundred percent about where u go, and i think u agree with that. i have seen people here who go to the best schools and still waste years looking for a job , a good school is not a guarantee to a good job. i have a cousin who had a 2:1 from Uni of Nottingham in Engineering , and did a masters at Imperial he spent 1 year looking for a jobwhen he didnt get one he moved back to nigeria in frustration. He also did not have work permit issues as he is british. What am saying is i agree with Sagamite, the kind of school is important BUT it is not an overiding factor. My emphasis is that is he sure Finance is the right course for him , where does he want to work eventually? as in what kind of job market. so that he does nott waste his money. He needs to be sure not just go with a course that looks and sounds good. also as sagamite said he needs to find At least an average school for the course he is interested in. Go to the league table on Education Guardian http://education.guardian.co.uk/universityguide2006/0,,1595180,00.htmland u have on there the league table depending on the course.
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ama27 (f)
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sorry Sagamite i just saw ur quick question now. I can here straight after my nigerian degree started in a UK uni
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Sagamite (m)
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'is really not about where u went to school. its about how u can sell yourself' my emphasis being on really not , so in other words its not a hundred percent about where u go, and i think u agree with that. i have seen people here who go to the best schools and still waste years looking for a job , a good school is not a guarantee to a good job. i have a cousin who had a 2:1 from Uni of Nottingham in Engineering , and did a masters at Imperial he spent 1 year looking for a jobwhen he didnt get one he moved back to nigeria in frustration. He also did not have work permit issues as he is british. What am saying is i agree with Sagamite, the kind of school is important BUT it is not an overiding factor. My emphasis is that is he sure Finance is the right course for him , where does he want to work eventually? as in what kind of job market. so that he does nott waste his money. He needs to be sure not just go with a course that looks and sounds good. also as sagamite said he needs to find At least an average school for the course he is interested in. Go to the league table on Education Guardian http://education.guardian.co.uk/universityguide2006/0,,1595180,00.htmland u have on there the league table depending on the course. I agree with every sentence 100% except I believe the Times League table is far better than the Guardian one which has questionable ratings. http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/gug/gooduniversityguide.php
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ehie007 (m)
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Sagamite, i don't think nigerian emplyers care about which university one attends here in nigeria all they want to know is what you came out with, because the standard is more or less the same accross board in nigerian universities. i heard London Met University is a lowly rated university in london, but it is still better than all our university in nigeria. U can try other country universities, like ireland, scotland, sweden, wales, it musnt be england.
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ama27 (f)
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I went to Aston but i can tell u London Met is not ranked so to say its lowly rated is not also an absolute fact i agree with ehie 007 there are schools everywhere plus to cut cost if you don't have ur accomodation covered don't GO TO LONDON
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jay bee (m)
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do u have a limited budget? if not city university (cass business school) is a good beth. a def ticket into big investment banks. had my masters der and most of my friends now work as an analyst for jp morgan which is less than 2 minutes walk from the school itself
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willyede (m)
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Then which schools do you lots suggest because write now i have a feeling that londonmet isn't it.so i need to know the school that he can start putting in for and would not ask for a 2.1. Lastly my because wats a masters in FINANCE because he said he wants to diversify in his career,he does not want to be static i.e all round accountant.so i hope u understand his plight.thanks
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ama27 (f)
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i can tell u for 1 thing if he doesnt do ACCA he can forget about being an accountant. At the same time he needs to go into Finanace for the right reasons, does he wantto go into a banking career, if so then yes to finance. Also he is better off doing a combined finance course i.e acct and finance, investment finance etc. Inter national Finance makes u limit yourself.
Another thing is the with a 2:2 from Nigeria. he doesnt have that many schools to choose from anyway Also has he taken into acct accomodation etc. You havent answered the question about finances as this plays a key role in decison making
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IncaGold (m)
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@ jay bee, what are your friends doing in jp morgan as analyst? if it's they're operations analyst (as many of them are) then what the heck! people just make so much noise about working in investment banks even when they're not in core IB areas.!!!
@ama27, hw r u?
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IncaGold (m)
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@willyede, good business schs like Cass, Warwick, MBS, LSE, LBS etc require a minimum of a 2.1 to be honest i don't think your bro has much to pick from except he has ample work experience which can suffice for his 2.2.
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Dis Guy
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please my links were specifically put up because he stated that : I have a cousin and he wants to go for his masters abroad i.e in england and he has no idea on the school he should put in because they keep asking for second class (upper) of which he graduated from university of benin with a second class (lower) in accounting.would love to go for masters in finance.Any help on schools to choose please feel free to share with me here.thanks
my search was just a lazy search nothing concrete I wasn't specifically thinking the poster or his cousin wants to work in the UK I doubt anyone with a visa can get a job with a TOP firm anyway they are too lazy to get anyone a permit, it is possible but difficult.
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ama27 (f)
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@Incagold am fine o , just tryin to survive
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willyede (m)
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tanx to y'all
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