Damn! Only White People.

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Hero,

I feel you. If that nonsense happened in Naija, haba! The parents, the relatives, and the neighbors would be over there beating that child ass.

i am sorry but white people don't know how to discipline their children. your in the store and the child's acting up, all they say is "stop johnny, johnny, what did i tell you?" i;m like take care of the child and i bet he will be a good kid.

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consistency and love are integral parts of discipline, and never the sole components. we are ruled by laws, and they are to protect those who do good from wrong-doers. the child must understand that when u're bad, you will get punished. but beyond that, my kid must be someone any one would want to associate with, because he was brought up right. Consistency and love alone cannot do that for you. Children need a good reason to stay away from bad behaviour. The rod is the most effective. I emphasize however that it must be used for purely correctional purposes, and most would agree that you do not hit the child when you are angry and MUST be proportional to the offence.

In nigeria, that boy's case would have been treated very easily and quickly too in a manner like this.

Johnny has lost his sister, so everyone is nice to him for a while. When he starts being a bully, the teachers firm up their handling of him. Losing a sibling doesnt give him the right to go wild. They warn him a few times, and cane him a few times.

One day, he walks into a staffroom and turns it upside down (probably some teacher punished him that day), scatters papers, tears some, upturns tables and chairs. He is sent home, and they call his mum to come with him the following day at 7.30 am sharp.

The following day, she hears all the stories of his misbehaviour in the school, as the head teacher lists his offences and announces that he will be flogged publicly as an example. Trust me, this is major humiliation for the mother. Many mothers invited for this show in school would go to the head teacher, collect the stick from him/her and beat the living shit out of the boy her damn self. Then ask the head teacher to finish him off.

When he has a sore, grounded butt for 2 weeks, his head usually returns to normal. You'D be surprised how nice he'll become.

Spanking is one of the major issues that kid has.

You watch 'everybody hates chris'? that's what discipline should look like. your parents are not your mates, and will never be. yes, they're your friends, but the day you take that for granted, you will regret it.

yeah yeah yeah, na wa ohhhhhhhhhhh. This children of now adays, my father for don scatter my head. That boy needs more than corrective surgery to the brain.

if i slapped my mom i'D have to find somewhere else to live for at least 6 months.

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most nigerian parents don't publicly punish their kids. But for rare occassions when the offence is committed in public (like Debo mentions), parents prefer to do the punishment in the confines of their home.
Punishing a child for a particular offence (that the child is aware of) does not damage his self-esteem, infact it helps the child understand that in life there are boundaries and there are rules for what accounts as acceptable behaviour.

you and your husband talk while you eat, isnt it hypocritical to tell your 4yr old not to talk while he eats too?
Isnt it hypocritical to tell your child not to eat sweets between meals while you can indulge in them sometimes?
isnt it hypocritical that your child must go to bed early while you can stay up to watch a movie?
Isnt it hypocritical that your child cannot watch R rated movies while you can?

Where do you draw the line between discipline and hypocrisy?


Isnt it also barbaric to tell your child to "sit down there" since u're bigger than him?
Isnt it barbaric to tell him not to talk back to you simply because u're bigger?
Isnt it barbaric that you can tell him to shut up and he can't say that to you simply because u're bigger?

where do you draw the line between discipline and barbarism?


So you who choose not to use corporal punishment love your child more than me who is prepared to give him a few wacks across the knuckles for taking the neighbours oranges?

Of course not.  Each of us has to decide what is right for our families.

I respect the choices of others.  There is no one right way to parent.  This is why I found this thread offensive.  Who are you people to call us dogs based on our discipline trends?  I would never say that Nigerians are raising dogs because they publicly humiliate and beat their children.

Amber ella has just shown me why the kids in London are wild. She has just proved to us why children in America think nothing of slapping anyone including their teachers. She has proved why children in Western societies have no fear of anything and will therefore do whatever they feel like in the knowledge that there can be little or no consequence as a result.

Even the British Govt, in recognition of the fact that punishment and it's consequences can act as a deterrent to children, has decided to put a little punitive measures in place for under 18's who hitherto were not allowed to be prosecuted when they carry knives. Politicians know that lax parenting is causing a lot of problems but they can't say such things openly for fear of losing votes.

I have dealt with my children properly according to the knowledge that I have and it has worked well so far. I thank God for it. If I have another child, I'll use the same measures; otherwise, I'll send him/her to Nigeria from a very early age

Nigeria's violence is a result of poverty; Western violence is a result of lax parental attitudes. They are different! We need to try and correct our own problem of poverty.
You're unlikely to find so many unruly and disrespectful children in Nigeria as you have over there

I recieved proper discipline from my parents and I have NEVER been violent in my life. My parents are human beings, not junkies, and they brought me up in love. When I deserved the belt, it was not spared and I am thankful to them for the kind of life I have now.

The emboldened are probably things you read about in your society; they don't happen in our society. We are brought up to value and respect human life. We do have our shortcomings but we'D rather not have unruly children especially knowing that we don't have the economy to susteain unruly behaviour. We don't have  a strong enough economy to cater for the unruliness of children as can be found in your society.

Thanks

well most of them do. i don't know how old you are but mostly likely you were born in the generation of respect. kids these days, i'm not talking about teenagers since they are already old enough to do their own thing, kids as little as 5 and older literally have not respect for no one. if they can't listen to their parents, why would they listen to anyone for that matter. sometimes they need the beaten the crap out just to understand. i try to be patient with kids but once they start running my nerves, oh its on. and i bet the next time they see me, they are one quiet individual. even though beating a child is not only way to discipline but it sure works, at least for the most part.