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Not enough to get anyone out of the maze. What maze? It's a simple question relating to something specific. What does John 3:16 state? Good. You had to exist outside Nairaland BEFORE you could create KAG inside Nairaland. However, KAG the character didn't exist before the existence of the website. So, if someone were to inquire specifically about the origin of KAG, an answer could be given without strawmen. But you were supporting the view that God (who was not existing) suddenly created Himself. Wierd.
That wasn't what I got from it, nor was what you've asserted my response to it. |
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imhotep
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What maze? It's a simple question relating to something specific. What does John 3:16 state?
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life." However, KAG the character didn't exist before the existence of the website. So, if someone were to inquire specifically about the origin of KAG, an answer could be given without strawmen.
No strawmen here. KAG originated from you, you came from your parents, who came from their parents, who came from their parents -------- who came from God. Simple. That wasn't what I got from it, nor was what you've asserted my response to it.
The fact still remains that every cause MUST precede the effect it causes. |
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KAG (f)
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"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life." There you go. No need to resort to avoiding the specific and, instead, tracing the orders before it. The same concept applies to the op. So, your answer could range from "[I conceive of] my god as needing no origins" to "humans created gods" or even Pastor AIO's. No strawmen here.
KAG originated from you, you came from your parents, who came from their parents, who came from their parents -------- who came from God. Simple. KAG originated from the person "me". That's the answer. The rest of your post is irrelevant to the original question. The fact still remains that every cause MUST precede the effect it causes.
Why? |
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imhotep
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There you go. No need to resort to avoiding the specific and, instead, tracing the orders before it. The same concept applies to the op. So, your answer could range from "[I conceive of] my god as needing no origins" to "humans created gods" or even Pastor AIO's.
God is being. He is. He did not come from anywhere, he is not going anywhere. "I am who I am" = > Exodus 3:14. "Before Abraham ever was, I AM" => John 8:58 KAG originated from the person "me". That's the answer. The rest of your post is irrelevant to the original question.
Because you existed before KAG. Why?
Because otherwise we will live with the absurdity of the effect preceding the cause. Eg a son being older than his biological father. |
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KAG (f)
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God is being. He is. He did not come from anywhere, he is not going anywhere. "I am who I am" = > Exodus 3:14.
"Before Abraham ever was, I AM" => John 8:58 See, that wasn't so hard, was it? Now, I may not agree with your conception, but it would constitute an answer Because you existed before KAG. Yes. Because otherwise we will live with the absurdity of the effect preceding the cause. Eg a son being older than his biological father. Time paradox. The son going back in time could play part in the birth of the father. |
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imhotep
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See, that wasn't so hard, was it? Now, I may not agree with your conception, but it would constitute an answer
Ok. Time paradox. The son going back in time could play part in the birth of the father.
This will need some high-energy relativistic stuff---- which is not common occurrence. |
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OLAADEGBU (m)
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Everything that has a beginning must have an end. The earth and the universe has a beginning and must also have and end. God has no beginning and He has no end. We humans only think in mostly three dimensions and that is why we can live in this 3 dimensional world of time, space and matter/energy. God lives outside of these dimensions because He created them in His infinite Power and Wisdom. He lives outside of time in that He can observe the past, present and the future in one stretch, that is why He knows the end from the beginning. He created space that exists in height, length and width, others are a combination of these three. He created matter/energy from the smallest particle which contains three smaller particles called neutrons, electrons and protons and which in turn contain three smaller quarks. He created information and language, intelligence and all living organisms. All these things He created have a beginning and therefore must have an ending, but God the Uncreated Creator has no beginning and has no ending, infact He is the beginning and He is the ending, He is the Alpha and Omega, He made Himself known to man by communicating to man His Will and Mind and then went further to becoming a man to live among us. Read what He said in Revelation 1:17,18 "Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death."For further explanation click on the thread evidence for God http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-141218.0.html |
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Negro_Ntns (m)
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KAG,
<The Universe> , A quest for understanding
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Negro_Ntns (m)
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KAG,
Other options follow, choose what suits.
<The COSMOS>, a journey to the past
<The VOID>, How it was filled and by whom
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kola oloye (m)
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God himself is the origin. He confirmed it: "I'm the Alpha and Omega,The beginning and the end"
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holythug (m)
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am always scared to contribute to topics like this because i might step on toesso let me just keep ma fingers crossed
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kola oloye (m)
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am always scared to contribute to topics like this because i might step on toesso let me just keep ma fingers crossed
Share your opinion with us if you know that it has value,we are all learning.Don't waste your talent.
Maybe you are afraid of someone,truly this kind of forum is not for chicken-hearted people.The choice is yours. |
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