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amusan (m)
Webdesign Softwares
« on: June 12, 2008, 08:31 PM »

Its getting complicated this day to design with some of the web design packages we have around.
But i dont worry about all those complicated softwares again cos i now have a easy to use,copy and paste,pick and drop web design software i use. if you also want to be like me you can contact me. i will teach you how to use the software and also install the original version of the software for you.
trust me you'll believe it when you see it.

Amusan daniels
07025378899
masterminder001@fastermail.com
yawa-ti-de (f)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #1 on: June 12, 2008, 08:37 PM »

where all else fails, nothing beats almighty NotePad.  Tis the foundation from which all other WYSIWYGs flow.
amusan (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #2 on: June 13, 2008, 08:18 PM »

You are very correct yawatide but we hav to put fun in designing website and not worrying with the html codes.
yawa-ti-de (f)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #3 on: June 13, 2008, 08:29 PM »

well as i said, "where all else fails" as in when you are in a situation where you have no access to those wizz bang WYSIWYGs, you can always trust old, rusty, out of touch, out of date, notepad.
uspry1 (f)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #4 on: June 13, 2008, 09:12 PM »

Popular Web design softwares that are freeware at below: (non-Adobe Dreamweaver or non-Microsoft FrontPage)

CoffeeCup HTML - http://www.coffeecup.com/free-editor/

Chami HTML-kit - http://www.chami.com/html-kit/

Bluefish - http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/

More freeware HTML (web design) editor software link at below:

http://www.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Freeware/Editors/HTML/
amusan (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #5 on: June 15, 2008, 09:56 PM »

yeah coffeecup is good. Do you really much about it, cos i dont use the html version
can you tell about that?
OmniPotens (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #6 on: June 16, 2008, 04:52 PM »

For me, I prefer Macromedia Dreamweaver but I must tell you, Notepad is still the boom.

uspry1 (f)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #7 on: June 16, 2008, 09:40 PM »

For me, I use both Dreamweaver, Chami HTML-Kit, and Notepad all the time for 8 years so far.

For Dreamweaver, I use MySQL connection hook up and reusable-ready scripts over and over.

For Chami-HTML-Kit, i use HTML/XML Validator checking any errors and any hard-to-find script parsers/wrappers/extensions that Dreamweaver does not have. (i have not update old Dreamweaver MX version 6 to new one Dreamweaver CS3 or CS4).

For NotePad, I use someone else's computer system that does not have Dreamweaver or Chami HTML-Kit installed on their system accessing my remote web hosting server with FTP login system I know how to upload/download files via internet browser. (without FTP software)
webdezzi (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #8 on: June 21, 2008, 03:21 PM »

well i see loads of applause for notepad, is it not the same notepad on my windows start>>run>>notepad

if it is, i dont know what features attract you,

for me, i think dreamweaver has more, code coloring, syntax error highlighting and more,

for me, i use notepad only when i dont have dreamweaver around
and its the same as working directly on the server right from the browser(like filemanager area of cpanel)

but when you need to save a phone number while receiving a call and no pen nearby, i think notepad beats dreamweaver. lol. Grin Grin Grin
yawa-ti-de (f)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #9 on: June 21, 2008, 05:50 PM »

@webdezzi
Yeah, notepad to me is what the four-figure table was to me back in my secondary school days.  Regardless, sometimes in life, you have to appreciate history so that you know from whence you came and where you are going.
Sam Milla (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #10 on: June 21, 2008, 07:27 PM »


NotePad is outdated.
Its good for beginners.
But there more advanced softwares out there.
amusan (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #11 on: June 21, 2008, 08:35 PM »

I personally think that every software is good, depending on who is using it and what you are using it for. i just dont find it funny when am coding. i think i like "What you see is what you get" softwares.
yawa-ti-de (f)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #12 on: June 22, 2008, 11:59 AM »

@SAM_MILLA
I beg to differ when you say notepad is for beginners.  How many beginners would know the full attributes of a table tag call (as in border, cellpadding, cellspacing, etc)?

A beginner is probably better off using some WYSIWYG.  However, as they progress, they should be familiar with what is "under the hood".  That is where either the code view of a WYSIWYG or notepad comes in.

I strongly advocate notepad if you really want to know what is going on.  Having said that, IMHO, I think a beginner will have more trouble on their hands if they immediately start with notepad assuming they have no idea about HTML and its workings.

As I have said above, notepad being a raw and bare bones text editor, should be used as a last resort.  So for example, you need to put up something real quick but you aren't at your computer and the one you have access to is your friend's and they don't have a WYSIWYG.  Via notepad, you can quickly make a change without having to wait for days just because you don't have your favorite WYSIWYG.
amusan (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #13 on: June 23, 2008, 07:43 AM »

You are very correct yawatide you spoke very proffessionally. but i dont understand why you advocate so much for notepad. i think you should get compensated for that.  Cool. Just let us know why you advocating for notepad.
fransois_1 (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #14 on: June 23, 2008, 11:11 AM »

I say the best way to go about it is to get your hands "dirty" by learning how to use code, believe me it will save you in days of trouble.
Grin
Mustay (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #15 on: June 23, 2008, 11:14 AM »

Quote from: amusan on June 23, 2008, 07:43 AM
You are very correct yawatide you spoke very proffessionally. but i don't understand why you advocate so much for notepad. i think you should get compensated for that.  Cool. Just let us know why you advocating for notepad.

yeah
yawa-ti-de (f)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #16 on: June 23, 2008, 11:53 AM »

@amusan
yeah, you would think Gates paid me to do this right?  Tongue

Anyways, I advocate notepad because it is how I got introduced to the game 10 years ago.  Back then, that is all you had.  Also, back in the day, I had discovered that the best way to get a job as a coder was to tell the interviewer that your favorite WYSIWYG was notepad.  You should have seen their pupils dilating at the mention of it.

Oh well, I hereby resign my advocation of notepad.  All I am saying is if you are learning, as someone else has rightfully pointed out, get your hands dirty.  Even if you use DW, just make sure you use the code view and not the design view.

Better?  Cool
A2J (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #17 on: June 23, 2008, 12:29 PM »

nothing conpares to the power of dreamweaver cs3
Mustay (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #18 on: June 23, 2008, 02:11 PM »

yawa

some people learnt how to type using the keyboard.

today, the pc has taken over Grin Wink
yawa-ti-de (f)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #19 on: June 23, 2008, 02:37 PM »

@Mustay
Don't you mean typewriter?  I guess you are too young to remember that Tongue
Mustay (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #20 on: June 23, 2008, 05:12 PM »

yeah.

I nefa tell u say I be sweet 13
Grin Grin Grin

Agbalagbi, olodos like us prefer Dreamweaver Tongue
amusan (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #21 on: June 24, 2008, 06:57 AM »

Old things are good, but new things are better. because new things are the latest development of old things.
that is, dreamweaver is as a result of development from notepad.
But guys i have an idea lets visit site that are designed with notepad and also with dreamweaver or any other WYSIWYG
then we can be sure which is better. so start posting your favourite site and we will visit.
yawa-ti-de (f)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #22 on: June 24, 2008, 12:02 PM »

@amusan
That proposition doesn't make sense to me.  First off, you "develop" sites and not "design", Naija lingo aside.  You can design a site via DW because it has Design view.  In notepad, you can develop a site, via the code itself.

My point is: If I type "<table><tr><td>stuff here</td></tr></table>" in both DW and notepad, the outcome will be the same.  However, if I "draw" a table in DW, I couldn't replicate that in notepad.

Folks, I am not saying we should code exclusively in notepad.  All I am saying is, even if you know DW very well, it doesn't hurt to know the underlying code peradventure you find yourself in a situation where you have no access to DW or any other WYSIWYG.  Take me for example, 2 situations come to mind:

1) I have been coding for close to 10 years now.  I started off with notepad.  I then migrated to HomeSite.  I have never used DW in my life however, since I know how to code "raw", if I am at a place that has no WYSIWYG or has another one like TextPad, IntelliJ, etc, I can still get my work done.

2) I was at a friend's house when it dawned on me that I needed to make a change to a site I was working on.  Rather than postpone it till I got home, I borrowed her laptop, logged on to my web host, opened up the file via my web host, and made my changes.  If I were a DW baby, I wouldn't have been able to do that.
kehers (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #23 on: June 24, 2008, 04:33 PM »

Come whatever, knowing the basic HTML codes is still the best way to web design. Really I dont believe HTML is that hard to be seen as something that shouldnt be embrassed by beginners. In the long run, you will need it, even if you are going the DW, frontpage way, knowing HTML still saves u a heck of headache,
I used Notepad as a beginner but now, it is EditPlus. EditPlus has a lotta interesting features that rocks for develpment. Undoing to the start, syntax coloring, file auto backup, line numbering, regexp searching to mention just a few.
Webbullion (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #24 on: June 27, 2008, 03:35 AM »

There are quite a number of web software, but i have tested and use many until i settled for wpm (Web Page Maker) i have hosted more than 21 Websites . for more information visit www.ionuwa.com
tomaagy (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #25 on: June 28, 2008, 08:41 AM »

Hi all, yeah I support Yawa (even though I dont know why she calls herself that)

Notepad is the mother of all WYSIWYG design stuff, personally I combine dreamweaver, frontpage (which is a cousin to Notepad) and Web Expression, I've been in situations where after using a WYSIWYG software i had to return to the real code to amend some things , 

Yeah you could be right to say it's because I dont know my way around those other softwares but really that could be true cos I learnt all of them in my room,

But at any time Notepad is like DOS if you don't know wat u're doing U're done,,  believe me staring at a blinking insertion point can be frustrating,  It's one of the reason i'm as good as I am today  years back I had a stupid experience wit insertion point,



(Checked out the blue gate looks more like LINUX coding to me)
adfabb (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #26 on: July 07, 2008, 08:49 PM »

i normally use notepad and i find it more easy to use for unlike some of the other what u see is what u get software.
i like them too.
OmniPotens (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #27 on: July 07, 2008, 09:09 PM »

I thought we were already done with this. Notepad, no matter how old it is, no matter how you may understand it, is still the best as far as this is concerned.
dgratrock
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #28 on: July 08, 2008, 02:55 AM »

i envy you guys. the way you talk about this stuff makes me pity meself. i ve tried many times using both manual frontpage notepad, manuals from renowned gurus and i'm still here wihout my own designed site. i gonna hold on to ya necks on my sweet Nairaland till i meet and overtake ya guys
brownbonno (m)
Re: Webdesign Softwares
« #29 on: July 08, 2008, 03:15 AM »

dgratrock,

Get a Dreamweaver CS3 for about £350-400 or a student version for £80 and you will be fine with a some practices.If you can,get the Dreamweaver CS3:Missing manual by  David McFarland it cost £20.
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