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Tayo-D (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #32 on: June 26, 2008, 06:21 PM »

@Gamine,

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don't be bothered, Female engineers even receive some special benefits
the male staff do not.
As an Engineer not technician, you aren't supposed to be doing heavy labor anyways
Its more supervisory work and definitely you need to be sure of what your doing.
Thanks for making this clarification. Many don't even know the difference between an Engineer and a Technician. As an Engineer, your work is 99% of the time brain work. As a trained Civil/Structural Engineer, I have built a lot of things without lifting a spade. I've worked in both the design and construction ield and the story is the same.

Civil Engineering sure provides you with a lots of options. Infact, the way things work here in the US, you can go into any engineering field irrespective of your engineering background. The only caveat is that you sign and approve only the jobs you supervised or reviewed and have competence at. The different divisions of engineering are usually not emphasised in your seal.

Think of it, as a Civil/Structural Engineer, I have worked in an Architectural Firm, Civil, Structural, Geotechnical and Water resources Firm, Construction Firm, Telecommunication Industry and now as a Transmission Design Engineer in the Power Industry. The sky is indeed your limit when it comes to engineering.

And by the way, your sex plays no role, positive or negative as far as I am concerned and know. Its all about your brainability.
CH3COO (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #33 on: June 26, 2008, 06:26 PM »

TayoD everything you said was agreeable to me until the sex plays no role part. 
omoovie (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #34 on: June 26, 2008, 06:33 PM »

I'm an Engineer in the Computer/IT field and one of my good friends just graduated from civil engineering and another from Electrical. I believe that the most viable engineering fields (that is if you intend to go back to Nigeria or currently reside there) for a woman would be Computer and Petrochemical/Chemical engineering. I'm leaning more towards Computer however because you have a greater chance in that respect than Chemical seeing as that (chemical) is a very male-dominated field and knowing our country's atmosphere for females plus the fact that Shell & Exxon Mobil rarely hire locals so your best bet would be NNPC which is already flooded! Alternatively you can go into Industrial or Production engineering and work in Architecture/Housing. I'm sure you will have the opportunity to carve a niche for yourself there since there are so few people in that field. As with anything in Naija, na who u know oh so best of luck. If you r in Jando however, any Engineering field is definitely viable but Biomedical/Biochemical Engineering, Computer Engineering and Structural engineering are burgeoning industries that have a potential for growth plus women in those fields usually have hefty financial options in the form of scholarships and grants like the STEM one provided by the US govt for example to under-represented minorities and women. Whatever you do, I am not the definitive authority on everything so make sure you do your own research as well and see what works for you. My advice, adding some sort of global connection to your studies (whether it be studying abroad one or two summers or taking languages courses like Spanish or interning at a company with a global reach) makes you even more marketable in any Engineering field. This translates into you having the ability to move into a project mgmt and eventually senior mgmt position.

Bonne chance mam'selle!
Nella (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #35 on: June 26, 2008, 06:42 PM »

Quote from: omoovie on June 26, 2008, 06:33 PM
I'm an Engineer in the Computer/IT field and one of my good friends just graduated from civil engineering and another from Electrical. I believe that the most viable engineering fields (that is if you intend to go back to Nigeria or currently reside there) for a woman would be Computer and Petrochemical/Chemical engineering. I'm leaning more towards Computer however because you have a greater chance in that respect than Chemical seeing as that (chemical) is a very male-dominated field and knowing our country's atmosphere for females plus the fact that Shell & Exxon Mobil rarely hire locals so your best bet would be NNPC which is already flooded! Alternatively you can go into Industrial or Production engineering and work in Architecture/Housing. I'm sure you will have the opportunity to carve a niche for yourself there since there are so few people in that field. As with anything in Naija, na who u know oh so best of luck. If you in Jando however, any Engineering field is definitely viable but Biomedical/Biochemical Engineering, Computer Engineering and Structural engineering are burgeoning industries that have a potential for growth plus women in those fields usually have hefty financial options in the form of scholarships and grants like the STEM one provided by the US govt for example to under-represented minorities and women. Whatever you do, I am not the definitive authority on everything so make sure you do your own research as well and see what works for you.

Bonne chance mam'selle!

I knowwww almost Everything sucks in that country!  -- well . . .  when it comes to jobs

@ Topic,


But why are u guys only talking about the constructing\civil part of engineering?? because Engineering don't only has to do with constructions n stuffs, It's very unfortunate that most of the other existing areas\courses of engineering does not exist in Nigeria! -- atleast I think,

Me 4 example, I want to study " Software Engineering" like ma bro, but since it's a curse that doesn't exist in Nigeria I can't study it, because unlike ma bro I'm still goin back to Nigeria to continue my studies, So . . . It really really sucks!

There are other cool Engineering courses  such as : "Aerospace Engineering"  ---- which I would love as well, but in Nigeria?? yea right!
                                                                                "Biomedical and Electrical Engineering" -- which Omoovie mentioned
                                                                                 " Software Engineering"   ----- in my dreams!
                                                                                   " Engineering physics"
                                                                                      "Communications Engineering"

And some other few------ But I'm not really sure of how many of this ones I mentioned acctually exist In Nigeria --- Does any one know?? please?
And also  in Nigeria there's a course called " Systems Engineering" right??? it's my next option as I can't study Software! Cry --- I just hope it does exist In Nigeria! -- it does right??


omoovie (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #36 on: June 26, 2008, 06:50 PM »

Quote from: Nella on June 26, 2008, 06:42 PM
I knowwww almost Everything sucks in that country! -- well . . . when it comes to jobs

@ Topic,


But why are u guys only talking about the constructing\civil part of engineering?? because Engineering don't only has to do with constructions n stuffs, It's very unfortunate that most of the other existing areas\courses of engineering does not exist in Nigeria! -- atleast I think,

Me 4 example, I want to study " Software Engineering" like ma bro, but since it's a curse that doesn't exist in Nigeria I can't study it, because unlike ma bro I'm still goin back to Nigeria to continue my studies, So . . . It really really sucks!

There are other cool Engineering courses such as : "Aerospace Engineering" ---- which I would love as well, but in Nigeria?? yea right!
 "Biomedical and Electrical Engineering" -- which Omoovie mentioned
 " Software Engineering" ----- in my dreams!
 " Engineering physics"
 "Communications Engineering"

And some other few------ But I'm not really sure of how many of this ones I mentioned acctually exist In Nigeria --- Does any one know?? please?
And also in Nigeria there's a course called " Systems Engineering" right??? it's my next option as I can't study Software! Cry --- I just hope it does exist In Nigeria! -- it does right??




Systems Engineering I'm thinking = Production Engineering in Nigeria which is what my cousin studied before she Janded. It's also similar to "Structural" Engineering and I think there's even something called "Reverse" Engineering. It's a niche type thing. Personally I wanted to go into Graphics Design & Computer Animation but like you I want to go back home. Where the hell am I going to use Computer Animation in Nigeria?

Sha don't sell yourself short on the software Engineering thing because who knows, you might the next genius Dangote and come up with a company that develops software. If you do, let me know. I've got a head full of awesome ideas!
Tayo-D (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #37 on: June 26, 2008, 07:01 PM »

@CH3C00,

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TayoD everything you said was agreeable to me until the sex plays no role part.
That is why I said as far as I know. My experience does not show that women are discriminated against.

There was no single female in my class throughout my studies in U.I. While I worked with female Architects, i never had a female Engineer as a colleague in Nigeria. I don't think it was due to discrimination, but the fact that there just wan't many female Engineers as i experienced back in school. Though there were female Petroleum, Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, there just was not a single female in my department, at least in my class.

As to my experience in the US., a female heads the Substation department here in my office. We have other female engineers that are doing very well and I don't know of any discrimination anywhere. Infact, the female department head is actually a first generation immigrant into the US.

And did I say that my female cousin, a Civil Engineer was a major factor in my choice to becoem a Civil Engineer?

@Nella,

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Me 4 example, I want to study " Software Engineering" like ma bro, but since it's a curse that doesn't exist in Nigeria
The Curse aspect explains why it doesn't do well in naija  Grin Grin Grin
Bossman (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #38 on: June 26, 2008, 07:13 PM »

Nella, I just want to mention that software engineering (at least here in the US) is another name for computer programming, software development, computer science. One school or discipline may refer to one of the above, however they all entail the same course work in school, or the same kind of work in the real world.
Nella (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #39 on: June 26, 2008, 07:31 PM »

Quote from: omoovie on June 26, 2008, 06:50 PM
Systems Engineering I'm thinking = Production Engineering in Nigeria which is what my cousin studied before she Janded. It's also similar to "Structural" Engineering and I think there's even something called "Reverse" Engineering. It's a niche type thing. Personally I wanted to go into Graphics Design & Computer Animation but like you I want to go back home. Where the hell am I going to use Computer Animation in Nigeria?

Sha don't sell yourself short on the software Engineering thing because who knows, you might the next genius Dangote and come up with a company that develops software. If you do, let me know. I've got a head full of awesome ideas!

abii oo, lol, don't worry I will bring that country up to d standard Engineering level Wink


It's just very: frustrating, because Software is just soo it! No problem in it, just has to do with softwares and stuffs like that, no tough hand work or anything like that! --- I almost cried when I heard that it didn't exist in Nigeria!


@ Bossman

yea, I guess it does have different names, -- but in Nigeria it just doesn't exist,  Undecided


Quote from: Tayo-D on June 26, 2008, 07:01 PM

@Nella,
The [b]Curse
aspect explains why it doesn't do well in naija [/b] Grin Grin Grin


You nor well at all!! lol, besides nobi curse it be!?? Grin Grin gosh, you're mad, Tongue
CH3COO (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #40 on: June 26, 2008, 07:43 PM »

Tayod, precisely.

I know gender has a lot of bearing in engineering admissions and work environment, even in the US.  I know most schools here are fervently harping about the lack of uniformity and women, more or less female minorities, in branches of engineering mostly because it is male-dominated. In that respect, I would propose that with decent grades, few ounces of smarts, and a burning desire to study engineering, our 17-year-old female here should have no problem getting into good engineering programs as there is a strong emphasis on recruiting females and minorities in engineering progras across the country.  Outside of academia, anything can happen and hopefully she lands a job with a rewarding company.  I have had a chance to survey some women in engineering who have been sexually discriminated and harassed, severely underpaid, grossly marginalized,  . . . at their various companies. There exists those shallow discriminatory professors at many schools who feel women don't even belong in the field of engineering.
Nella (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #41 on: June 26, 2008, 08:04 PM »

Quote from: CH3COO on June 26, 2008, 07:43 PM
Tayod, precisely.

I know gender has a lot of bearing in engineering admissions and work environment, even in the US.  I know most schools here are fervently harping about the lack of uniformity and women, more or less female minorities, in branches of engineering mostly because it is male-dominated. In that respect, I would propose that with decent grades, few ounces of smarts, and a burning desire to study engineering, our 17-year-old female here should have no problem getting into good engineering programs as there is a strong emphasis on recruiting females and minorities in engineering progras across the country.  Outside of academia, anything can happen and hopefully she lands a job with a rewarding company.  I have had a chance to survey some women in engineering who have been sexually discriminated and harassed, severely underpaid, grossly marginalized,  . . . at their various companies. There exists those shallow discriminatory professors at many schools who feel women don't even belong in the field of engineering.


Yea, of course such unfortunate problems does exist, but atleast u r talking about outside Nigeria, Imagine how it would be in Nigeria! I mean, somewhere like US, Canada, the discrimination is just very minor, almost everything is fair. But In Nigeria, that one I don't even need to ask.
But I guess one just has to be sharp and determined, somehow u would get there, female or male.

I'm very unlucky because, although I do want to study Engineering, I want very little or nothing at all to do with anything mechanical\that has to do with costructing with your hands and stuffs like that.  ------------------ But that dream in Nigeria, might as well be put aside, I guess when I go back  I would be able to do more research and find out those which have more to do with softwares and very very little to do with hand work. so help me God! Cry  Tongue
Bankai (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #42 on: June 26, 2008, 09:44 PM »

jassie
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #43 on: June 26, 2008, 09:58 PM »

@genius33

Studying engineering is not such a bad idea, but in a country like naija, you stand to get limited in some aspects, especially when you study it in a university because they don't do much practical works there. Studying in England where you are is very good and you get to be ranked high amogst fellow couterparts. The use of engineering softwares in lecture curriculums is also an added advantage. Some students in Nigeria get to learn how to use AutoCad (engineering software) after they graduate.

I can tell u civil engineering is the best aspect to major in as you can work almost anywhere, lots of money is also involved I'm sure about that. My dad is a civil engineer and so is my elder brother.

If u gats what it takes, then do it. Guten tag  Tongue
omoovie (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #44 on: June 26, 2008, 11:55 PM »

Quote from: Nella on June 26, 2008, 08:04 PM
Yea, of course such unfortunate problems does exist, but atleast you're talking about outside Nigeria, Imagine how it would be in Nigeria! I mean, somewhere like US, Canada, the discrimination is just very minor, almost everything is fair. But In Nigeria, that one I don't even need to ask.
But I guess one just has to be sharp and determined, somehow u would get there, female or male.

I'm very unlucky because, although I do want to study Engineering, I want very little or nothing at all to do with anything mechanical\that has to do with costructing with your hands and stuffs like that. ------------------ But that dream in Nigeria, might as well be put aside, I guess when I go back I would be able to do more research and find out those which have more to do with softwares and very very little to do with hand work. so help me God! Cry Tongue


Now now my dear don't be pessimistic! In under 4 years almost every Naija person has cellphone! Cellphones that me fa in Jand am tripping like mad over! My uncle came d other day and was flipping this his phone that was receiving phone calls and functioning___in JAND! He stopped over and saw a family friend in Dubai and it worked there too! If Naija made that much progress in such a short time something that seems impossible now (the field of Software/Hardware, Computer Engineering and Animation actually existing in Naija) may very well be viable by the time you graduate and are ready to enter the work force. Lord knows even with that d fact that I was practical and went with Computer Engineering I'm going back to get an MBA and an MFA in Digital Animation & Design. I know of other Nigerians like me in LA & NY that are interested in this field too. You may be surprised and find a fledging or established company for what you want to study so don't be practical like me because that's years detracted from what you really want to do. Go for what you want to do!
Tats (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #45 on: June 27, 2008, 01:36 AM »

I would advise you go for Electrical/Electronics or Chemical Engineering. You've got several career choices with both of them especially as Nigeria moves towards industrialisation. Civil is okay, but largely geared towards housing in Nigeria. Petroleum is also good in Nigeria, but may be a little restricted if you want to have choices. Mechanical is very broad as you can work in many industries, but fewer females tend to study Mechanical.
bobby16 (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #46 on: June 27, 2008, 07:06 AM »

  I definitely agree with most of the things that was written here.  I just completed my freshman year in collge here in the United states (Umass). my major is Chemical Engineering and all most all the courses i took were all based on Engineering oriented courses, I rarely have any female course mate because most American females are scared of chemistry, Calculus, physics and all science oriented courses. So people try to avoid science due to their difficulty to understand math and every other thing related to it.

Well, my first year as a chemical engineering major was great. I got scholarship because of my academic performance and mostly because people are scared of science so, those that are serious minded always get scholarships when their major is based on science courses.

I do believe females can do better in Engineering fields especially in Nigeria because we got a lot of smart females over is just that the government never really gave them or any other person the opportunity to make use of their talents.  One love  to  y'all:)
eminemkayc (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #47 on: June 27, 2008, 08:10 AM »

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"A good scientist is a person with original ideas.
A good engineer is a person who makes a design
 that works with as few original ideas as possible. \
There are no prima donnas in engineering." Freeman Dyson

I LIKE THIS,  IT BEST DESCRIBES ME,  A CIVIL/RESEARCH ENGINEER,  Smiley
eminemkayc (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #48 on: June 27, 2008, 08:13 AM »

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I can tell u civil engineering is the best aspect to major in as you can work almost anywhere, lots of money is also involved I'm sure about that. My dad is a civil engineer and so is my elder brother.

If u gats what it takes, then do it. Guten tag  Tongue

                THIS IS JUST THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER. AM A CIVIL ENGINEER WORKING IN THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY AND CAN ATTEST TO THAT. Smiley
bebure (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #49 on: June 27, 2008, 09:15 AM »

Go for it! I'm an engineering student myself going to my final year and in my experience almost all the [Nigerian] female engineering students I've met in the UK are extremely good at it (at least academically) with most getting a 1st or a 2:1 degree. If you have what it takes (good maths, design and analytical skills) I don't see why not. Overall though (and this goes to both male and female engineers that want to practise in the UK.), if your aim is to make money, the hard truth is that engineering is just not the way to do so. Your best bet would be to study your engineering at the undergraduate level, put in some years in industry (3 to 7 years is ideal) and then go for an MBA (at a top tier school) or MSc in management and HOPEFULLY you'll get a job as a manager and move on from there. As for me, I think I'll cut through all that and go straight into Investment Banking (if I can get a job).
phattgirl
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #50 on: June 27, 2008, 09:22 AM »

@ bebure

which area of engineering are you studying?
skyline (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #51 on: June 27, 2008, 10:00 AM »

@ Uchetobi
I don't Know that UNN now has Chemical engineering dept. Please when did they start? This is because the UNN i know does not offer such.
Gamine (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #52 on: June 27, 2008, 11:38 AM »

Safety First.


i was considering Architecture, not Engineering
before i entered school.
But what i am now, i thorougly enjoy.

The Engineer is the best breed of Human species anywhere!
aysometin (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #53 on: June 27, 2008, 11:40 AM »

From what you have said and from my experience in the oil and gas industry.

Civil engineering is your best bet.
showstopa
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #54 on: June 27, 2008, 01:01 PM »

"[b]{echanical is one of the few that is somewhat restricted.
civil is a lot better especially when you can apply it to a variety of discipline like:
Transport
Structural
Water
Oil & Gas
Building Services

Mechanical is aiight but jobs are limited in such field."}
 


  Get ur facts straight before you post, a mechanical engineer has no limits to job opportunities in Nigeria. It is by far the broadest, its the backbone of all other engineering courses.
  Thank you
jay bee (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #55 on: June 27, 2008, 01:09 PM »

Quote from: showstopa on June 27, 2008, 01:01 PM
"[b]{echanical is one of the few that is somewhat restricted.
civil is a lot better especially when you can apply it to a variety of discipline like:
Transport
Structural
Water
Oil & Gas
Building Services

Mechanical is aiight but jobs are limited in such field."}
Get your facts straight before you post, a mechanical engineer has no limits to job opportunities in Nigeria. It is by far the broadest, its the backbone of all other engineering courses.
 Thank you


First of all the lady that asked the question is not based in naija but UK and my answer was geared towards engineering industries in the UK.
Secondly, i don't know if you are an engineer but me being a qualified chartered engineer i can't remember when mechanical engineering became the backbone of all engineering.

If you are looking at it from the narrow minded of nigerian industries whereby a graduate of religious studies can work in the banks then you ought to do more research and widen your horizon
 


jay bee (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #56 on: June 27, 2008, 01:13 PM »

Just had a quick sniff through your previous posts and deduced that you are a recent graduate. Well i am an experienced engineer and i have access to numerous info's on engineering so my advice for you is to research more.
Gamine (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #57 on: June 27, 2008, 01:18 PM »

Thanks Jaybee
Bayyoxx
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #58 on: June 27, 2008, 01:35 PM »

Hello,
My heart goes out to female engineers-i respect their courage & tenacity.
My sister, if you are creative & passionate about technology then go for gold! I read Agric/Envir Engineering & I had a swell time in the maritime/food industries. My female colleagues are equally doing fine. Female engineers are not subservient, infact they are more disciplined & highly paid too. please go in the direction of your dreams & do all that is in your heart. Cheers!
Tats (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #59 on: June 27, 2008, 04:27 PM »

Quote from: jay bee on June 27, 2008, 01:09 PM
First of all the lady that asked the question is not based in naija but UK and my answer was geared towards engineering industries in the UK.
Secondly, i don't know if you are an engineer but me being a qualified chartered engineer i can't remember when mechanical engineering became the backbone of all engineering.

If you are looking at it from the narrow minded of nigerian industries whereby a graduate of religious studies can work in the banks then you ought to do more research and widen your horizon

It should be apparent to you that Mechanical is very broad and critical to other Engineering functions. Most engineers rely on equipments designed and manufactured by mechanical engineers to carry out their jobs.

How easy will it be for other Engineers to function without design, thermodynamics and fluid mechanics? Remember that fluid includes air and not only liquid. If you require, I will expatiate on how aeronautics, civil/structural, chemical, petroleum engineers ,e.t.c rely on mechanical.

For your info, I am not a Mechanical Engineer and only trying to be objective here. The point is not to deride other Engineers or Engineering professions or show them as less important, as I am one too (but not chartered as I don't need to be)!
jay bee (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #60 on: June 27, 2008, 04:33 PM »

Quote from: Tats on June 27, 2008, 04:27 PM
It should be apparent to you that Mechanical is very broad and critical to other Engineering functions. Most engineers rely on equipments designed and manufactured by mechanical engineers to carry out their jobs.

How easy will it be for other Engineers to function without design, thermodynamics and fluid mechanics? Remember that fluid includes air and not only liquid. If you require, I will expatiate on how aeronautics, civil/structural, chemical, petroleum engineers ,e.t.c rely on mechanical.

For your info, I am not a Mechanical Engineer and only trying to be objective here. The point is not to deride other Engineers or Engineering professions or show them as less important, as I am one too!
No one is making it less important. was only highlighting the fact that civil/structural engineers stand better chance of getting jobs once graduated to the young lady.
Since you seem to know about engineering. can you explantiate on how critical mechanical engineering is to a working traffic light.

 
jay bee (m)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #61 on: June 27, 2008, 04:36 PM »

and another thing u need to be aware of is instruments are designed by instrumentation engineers that mostly studied electrical/electronics engineering (they take modules on measurement).

nzucha (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #62 on: June 27, 2008, 04:39 PM »

so interesting, i am a chemical engineer,and a female.it feel so good to be in this profession.
i attended an interview lately,and i was the only lady engineer out of about 14.
To all the RUGGED LADIES IN THE HOUSE, I LOVE YOU ALL.
Gamine (f)
Re: 17, Female, Wants To Be An Engineer?
« #63 on: June 27, 2008, 04:41 PM »

elct elec is so basic, what are these mech people talking about.

Anyways all engineering is good
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